Men oppressed by not being allowed to bitch about ladies in public restrooms
I'm pretty sure this happens more often than conversations in men's restrooms
A startling new development on the frontiers of anti-male oppression. According to the loquacious lady MRA known as girlwriteswhat on Reddit, men are being oppressed by evil feminist dudes cruelly clamping down on their right to bitch about ladies in the bathroom. In a recent comment she writes:
No space is allowed to be male-only, or male-viewpoint-only, but women insist on female-only or female-viewpoint-only spaces all the time.
The only male safe space left on the planet is the men’s bathroom, ffs. And even then, there will be feminist-leaning men policing what is said. It’s very frustrating.
As a dude feminist who is a regular user of men’s restrooms, I should note that dudes do not actually talk in restrooms.
Happily, this does not prevent me, as a dude feminist, from policing the non-existent speech of other dudes in said restrooms.
Here is the complete transcript of a restroom discussion I recently policed:
Dude One: [silently urinates]
Dude Two: [silently urinates]
Dude Three: [silently poops]
Me: Goddessdamnit, keep it down with all your lady-bashing! Men are bad!
Always glad to help.
HT to Shit Reddit Says, which has just ended its month-long moratorium on r/mensrights posts, for pointing me to girlwriteswhat’s observation.
Posted on February 1, 2012, in antifeminism, antifeminst women, bullying, I'm totally being sarcastic, misandry, MRA, oppressed men, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 520 Comments.
@Zarat
Do you have figures to support your “big $$$ child support carrots”? I couldn’t find figures (what I could find was a calculator), but from what I’ve heard, the mandated amounts aren’t enough to cover even half of what it costs to raise a child as a single parent.
“Seriously, someone ought to make a banner of that ambiguous statement quote. It could be a motto of the MRM, even more so if the “ambiguous” was removed.”
We will just make a banner that reads “and we are usually right!”
So Zarat, why’d you stop talking about VR Utopia? Is it because you realized there was no way you were actually going to get up off your ass and make porno Sims, or is it because the other MRAs wouldn’t let you into the playhouse until you stopped making them look even more idiotic?
Yeah, I missed the whole discussion of the sex bots, and that seems so unfair. Please say more about the sex bots.
Good night, bigots. Its my bed time. I’ll leave you all to stew in your own bigotry and smoulder in silence.
I agree with you about 50/50 alternating weeks for parents who live in the same area however you are a fucking moron if you think alternating years is good for children. Disrupting a child’s school attendance and friendships every year is incredibly bad for the child. Honestly custody should be determined on what is best for the child and to hell with how either parents feels about it because when you choose to become a parent your child’s welfare should come before your feelings.
Lauralot: now we know why he’s here. To convince enroll people lock Quacker. Suspense suspense… will Antz make a new recruit??
Well, Quackers, you’ll be missed. Enjoy your newfound home in the MRM.
9_9
Also, I didn’t realise I was giving Lauralot a hard time. I thought we were just hammering out where we stand, and finding out it’s in the same place.
Farewell Quackers, you shall be missed. T_T. I promised myself I wouldn’t cry!
Noadi: agreed. This seems more about the right to parents to “have” their child than anything about the well-being of the child.
Wrong. What about separating sex in different countries? That was awesome.
Basically the pattern goes like this: You, Zarat, come on here spewing utter bullshit, repeatedly point out the obvious fact that you’re not arguing in good faith, and everyone laughs at or is disgusted by you.
You’re basically just proving that your movement is a joke, and illustrating the need for a real MRM to step and actually do something useful. You do know that, right? That you’re just a fucking clown?
Clearly I missed Antz’ glory days. I wish I’d started reading earlier.
@Kyrie
I like to think both stances were just two halves of the awesome whole
That’s not trolling. That’s insulting if you want, but that’s miles away from trolling. you can’t troll MRAs without posting on MRAs spaces.
God damn, what is it with our trolls and running off with a “good night”? Antz, you know NWO is all but gone from this site now, right? If you’re hoping to make some sort of impact, you shouldn’t be following in his footsteps.
@Cloudiah: They weren’t exactly sexbots. He predicted that in the future, we’d have a virtual reality world and all the men would fuck virtual reality women. Also, men and women would suddenly decided that they didn’t want to have societies together and divide up the country on the sides of (I think) the Mississippi River. Now if you’re thinking “That sounds extremely stupid and boring,” then yes, it does, as does everything else Antz says. But that was at least fun to laugh at, so instead he switched over to “bigots bigots bigots bigots.”
Fun fact: Antz has a faithful wife! He’s still going to ditch her for fuckable Sims on the offchance that she might divorce him and take custody of the kids someday.
Shadow: Sure. For straight people it would be quite boring without the robots. Great time to be gay or bi, though.
“Please let me into the treehouse women” are crazy common IME. It’s depressing to see in games, since it feels like they make up a majority of the women who identify (The rest just staying quiet because christ I don’t need to get hit on.)
@Lauralot, I am so sorry to have missed that. Thanks for the recap!
EGOTIST, n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me.
@Antz
Hahahaaha!!! Antz I will never join the MRM. I support men’s rights, but I don’t support the MRM. Not if they remain in this stage anyway. I also support feminism because women actually do still have issues they need to deal with, and if you think that the nurturing stereotype is the worst of it then you really don’t know shit.
Here’s what I believe. I believe there should be a male pill. I believe that a man should be able to renounce fatherhood if his partner refuses to get an abortion, because it barbaric to force a woman into having one and because its only fair. I believe shared custody is optimal, but the courts better be sure that both parents are fit. I believe alimony is outdated, but hell, I believe marriage is outdated. What I don’t think is right though is that if I a couple divorces, and the mother sacrificed her career to stay home and now has a huge gap in her resume, it is not right to just leave her with nothing. If no alimony, then at least some form of compensation until she is able to get back on her feet again. I do know for a fact though, since most MRAs are anti-government conservatives, they would then shift their anger at women for leeching off the state.
Here’s what I don’t believe. I don’t believe women are so evil and self serving that the only reason they only want custody is to get child support. Facts state that most divorces are resolved amicably, so there’s one hole in your argument. I also don’t think child support is enough to live like a fucking queen like you MRAs think. I know because my parents are divorced. I know because my dad had a good job and my mom still only got a couple hundred bucks, and she sure as hell sacrificed a lot for her kids. I also believe that if child support is going to go, there MUST be programs enforced to make sure that single parents and their kids aren’t going to be living in poverty. Discrimination against mothers in the work force has to go. More daycare centers need to be built and made affordable. Single mothers are among the poorest people living in the US. What do you think that tells you?
Zarat, when the revolution comes, will GWW be replaced with a robot so she can’t trouble her boyfriend with her horrible free will?
um…I’m not going anywhere I promise XD
Even though I do spend too much time online, I had shit to do but got distracted by manboobz again lol
Really though, a lot of us have expressed the same concerns that MRAs have, I don’t know why Antz acted so surprised by what I said. Also we don’t pretend women don’t have concerns either, neither are we misogynists.
@Cloudiah
His argument was basically the PSA about human-robot relationships in Futurama, except he thought humanity will finally thrive afterwards.
He was surprised because he is what he accuses us of being; a thoughtless, hateful bigot.
I agree with you about 50/50 alternating weeks for parents who live in the same area however you are a fucking moron if you think alternating years is good for children.
It’s very much the brainstorm of someone who sees children as possessions rather than people.
Antz is never going to go back to his “VR Wife” explanation again.
It’s too awkward to simply go on with and act like one is noble.
Then again, he’s a MRA, so there’s a 75% chance I’ll be wrong.
Yeah! After this terrible moment of uncertainty, Quackers finally stay on the feminist side! What great relief for a totally predictable decision that leave everything as it was before. A great time that will not go forgotten in the sex war History.
“Because you insulted an MRA freedom fighter”
I’m guessing he means Thomas Ball? That’s all I can think of.
Yeah, glad to see you’ve decided to stick with us, Quackers. Sure seemed touch and go there for a while. We all know how persuasive AntZ can be.
@Dracula
Yeah very true. They must have fainting spells when feminist acknowledge unfairness towards men. Ozy’s NSWATM must be like walking into a parallel universe for them or something.
@Kyrie
LOL! Feminists 1, MRAs 0
Also for future reference, should I be gone for a period of time rest assured I have not joined the MRM, it’s because I’m trying to give my life a makeover which includes scheduling my time a bit better xD
As an engineer, I feel the need to point out that this is not an equation.
Also, David, I really hope you use this image for a post sometime.
GirlWritesWhat is a freedom fighter for bravely speaking up for the men who want to whine about women in the restroom? Hahahahahahaha. That’s rich. I agree that AntZ is not nearly as funny as he was in his heyday, but he still cracks me up sometimes.
I think in this case AntZ is imagining himself as the Luke Skywalker of the MRM leading a group of plucky rebels against the evil empire of feminists. It’s also fun when he talks like a comic book character telling us “Your tyranny is coming to an end, you evildoers!” However, I’m bored with him calling everyone a bigot. That routine is old already, so it’s time for some fresh material.
Oh, he meant GWW?
I’m guessing every MRA is considered a freedom fighter for speaking up against the evil gynocracy.
GWW is a freedom fighter in the same sense that those people with firehoses and red trucks are fire fighters.
Quackers: . Ozy’s NSWATM must be like walking into a parallel universe for them or something.
They see it as a fifth column, attempting to convert MRAs to the evils of feminism.
Honest.
“I think in this case AntZ is imagining himself as the Luke Skywalker of the MRM leading a group of plucky rebels against the evil empire of feminists. It’s also fun when he talks like a comic book character telling us “Your tyranny is coming to an end, you evildoers!” However, I’m bored with him calling everyone a bigot. That routine is old already, so it’s time for some fresh material.”
Agreed. For a guy who started out with separate countries for men and women and vr sex, he’s fallen far. HIs delusions of heroism need more color. Stat.
@Pecunium:
I saw a post (I forget where…some no-namer’s blog, I think) claiming that the GMP was basically a false flag operation aimed at discrediting men’s rights activists, and that the site was run by a feminist was proof of this.
I can only conclude that, in the MRA version of history, the Tardis is handed out selectively to leftist groups, this is the only way to explain:
1) That Marx caused people to become Marxists before he was born.
2) That Lenin ruled a country and made laws a decade after he was dead.
3) That anti-leftist fervor in the US during WWI was a reactionary measure to Stalinism
and, now:
4) That the black panthers were the masterminds behind civil rights leaders who did the bulk of their work before the party existed, and died not even two years after its inception on the other side of the country.
Okay, that last one isn’t 100% Tardis needing, but, come on, considering all of the other evidence, it is the most likely scenario.
So, let me get this straight, the only time these dudes feel safe is when they’re allowed to put down other people. Making fun of others makes them feel “safe”. What a world they live in.
The phrase “MRM freedom fighter” is the funniest damn thing I have read all week.
[quote]However, I’m bored with him calling everyone a bigot. That routine is old already, so it’s time for some fresh material.[/quote]
Ironic. Most MRAs are actually bigots. They’re not only very sexist, most are also very racist and transphobic as well.
Suppose a feminist and an MRA were high school students. Who do you think will be more likely to bully their gay classmate until he commits suicide?
I rest my case. MRAs are filth.
I’d like to know who Antz thinks are the bad apples if he thinks Paul Elam is one of the good ones. Maybe for him, the more moderate ones like Farrell are the bad ones. Up is down, black is white.
“The phrase “MRM freedom fighter” is the funniest damn thing I have read all week.”
If anything it is the feminists who are the freedom fighters. They fight against centuries of harmful values, stereotypes, and prejudices thoroughly ingrained in all of our minds. MRAs just reinforce them. Furthermore, they have the advantage of both history and the ignorance and cruelty of the mainstream population.
In case anyone wants to remember AntZ in his prime, let me draw your attention to his inspirational “divide the country” speech, as performed by a cartoon robot:
That was great. You should make more of those.
One of the basic theories of feminism is that men must reserve a part of their lives for women and women must not do any thing for pleasing men.
@explore nature
What the hell are you talking about? O_o
(not that I expect an actual answer knowing your posting habits)
I think the word you’re looking for is tenets. Then you’d be less wrong, though that isn’t much of an improvement
I think Explore Nature is gunning for his or her very own Book O’ Larnin’.
Also, I miss the fluffy bunny and the some sort of little dog thing.
@ Explore Nature – Whaaa??? “Feminist theory” does not say jack shit about what men should do. You are delusional. For your own safety, please put the crack pipe down.
Ironic. Most MRAs are actually bigots. They’re not only very sexist, most are also very racist and transphobic as well.
Suppose a feminist and an MRA were high school students. Who do you think will be more likely to bully their gay classmate until he commits suicide?
I rest my case. MRAs are filth.
I’m no friend of MRAs, but I think you’re laying it on a bit thick here. Making unfounded suppositions about what MRAs might do in a hypothetical situation is neither fair nor helpful. And calling them “filth” is really beyond the pale. Please dial it back a notch.
The Glee post just left page 1, remember?
MRAs regularly downvote anything moderate like, “maybe all women should not be raped and killed”. I’m pretty sure filth is fairly accurate for most MRAs, at least the ones posting on the main sites that we see.
One of the basic theories of humanism is that humans must reserve a part of their lives for clones and clones must not do any thing for pleasing humans.
I do think that saying, “MRAs would hypothetically be the ones to drive their gay friend to suicide” is unnecessary though. There’s plenty of horrible stuff that prominent MRAs have actually said, so it’s better to focus on that.
One of the basic theories of bearism is that park picnickers should must reserve a part of their picnic for bears and bears must not do anything for pleasing picnickers.
One of the basic theories of Moosism is that Squirrel must reserve a part of their lives for Moose and Moose must not do anything for pleasing Squirrel.
OK, well, maybe it was well within the pale, then. Carry on. :)
“I believe there should be a male pill.”
Sounds like an MRA to me.
“I believe that a man should be able to renounce fatherhood if his partner refuses to get an abortion, because it barbaric to force a woman into having one and because its only fair.”
Definitely 100% an MRA. Also, if you say this near a feminist, you could be violently physically assaulted.
“I believe shared custody is optimal, but the courts better be sure that both parents are fit.”
This is a standard MRA platform. You are an MRA.
“I believe alimony is outdated, but hell, I believe marriage is outdated.”
MRA, MRA, MRA. I think you should apply for an editorial position at A Voice for Men.
“What I don’t think is right though is that if I a couple divorces, and the mother sacrificed her career to stay home and now has a huge gap in her resume, it is not right to just leave her with nothing.”
We can talk about this, but the MRM position is, nobdoy (regardless of gender) should stay at home. Full stop. Why? Because that implies that courts have to sort out the mess … and if there is one thing we MRAs know, it is that courts are incapable of doing anything impartially. Bigotry runs deeper and thicker in courtrooms than anywhere else.
“If no alimony, then at least some form of compensation until she is able to get back on her feet again. I do know for a fact though, since most MRAs are anti-government conservatives, they would then shift their anger at women for leeching off the state.”
We don’t believe in government because government does not believe in us. If our children stop being stolen by feminist goons in police uniforms, we would not mind government at all.
There’s plenty of horrible stuff that prominent MRAs have actually said, so it’s better to focus on that.
Thanks, crumb. That was kind of my point. I’d forgotten about the Glee thing, though. I’m certainly not denying their homophbia and racism in addition to the obvious sexism. It just seemed like sort of comment that MRAs would love to take out of context. I suppose it doesn’t really matter, though, since MRAs can put a negative spin on anything.
Antz: Dude, I’ve KNOWN feminists who’ve believed in “male abortion” rights. I’ve had them write on my blog. I have not physically assaulted one of them.
Also, why shouldn’t people stay at home if they want to?
Boggi: Check yourself, dude. It’s really not okay to call entire groups of people filth, even if they are generally nasty smallminded little wankers. If nothing else, you’re giving them more than they deserve– mock them, don’t hate them. Have contempt, not anger.
AntZ, do you think women are people? GASP ME TOO. YOU ARE A FEMINIST.
I think men face rigid gender roles which don’t allow them to express feelings other than rage, and it’s harmful. Do I get to be an MRA too?
Cute puppies, sunshine, orgasms–that’s 100% MRA.
Poison oak, sand in your swimsuit, Michael Bolton–entirely the fault of feminism.
@Antz: Go back to bed. 3.5 hours is not a sufficient amount of sleep. Make yourself a glass of warm milk if you need to.
AntZ: Given that you share those opinions with feminists (such as myself), perhaps you are mistaken about your MRAness, and ought to accept that you are actually in agreement with feminism.
Moewicus: I think Explore Nature is gunning for his or her very own Book O’ Larnin’.
That would require the comments made to have enough semblance of coherence to extract some comprehensible content from his rambling.