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MRA: Men can sometimes tell when women are on their periods. Therefore, feminism is exposed as a dirty lie!

From Susan Draws. (Click on the pic to go there.)

Watch out, ladies! And feminism! Because guys are totally onto you and your dirty periods. According to a study cited on the blog What Men Think of Women, men can tell when women are on their periods – just by listening to them talk! Well, some of the time, anyway. From a writeup of the research in the Times of India:

Men can actually tell from a woman’s voice when she is having her period, a new study has claimed.

For the study, conducted by Nathan Pipitone at Adams State College and Gordon Gallup from SUNY-Albany, the researchers asked three groups of men to listen to voice recordings of ten women who counted from one to five at four different points over their menstrual cycle.

According to Popular Science, all four recordings were played in a random order and then the first group of men were asked to guess which were made while the women were on their period. The tests revealed that the men were correct 35 per cent of the time, which was described as a ‘significant’ result.

That’s right, ladies! Men can tell whether or not you’re are on the rag  – a third of the time!

I myself have developed a technique that can bring this success rate to well over 50 percent – just by listening to women talk!

All you have to do is to pay attention to subtle audio clues, like her saying:

“I just started my period.”

“My period came early this month.”

“Crap. I’ve got awful craps – because of my period.”

“Aunt Flo is paying her monthly visit.” (Note: this works only if she does not actually have an Aunt Flo.)

“It’s shark week! “ (Note: This works only if it is not actually Shark Week on the Discovery Channel.)

“It’s that time of month again. The time when I use tampons, in my vagina.”

 “I have reached that point in my menstrual cycle during which blood leaks from my hoo-ha.”

So what does all this mean? According to Christian J at What Men Are Saying About Women, it means the jig is up, feminists! In a post titled How Men can Decode “Women’s” Menstrual Cycle.. , he writes:

This information is what feminist have been trying to hide, delete and deny for many a decade. They are of the opinion that the menstrual cycle is irrelevant and superfluous to their cause and one can understand why when one looks at the studies on how women are affected by it.

In the worst case scenarios, their behaviour are effected to such a degree as to make them totally dysfunctional and even bedridden for the period(intended) of the cycle. The other side of the argument is ofcourse that it is swept under the carpet and not discussed or taken seriously..

Just some added benefits from feminism, as they live in ignorant, self induced silence..

You might as well pack it in, ladies and manginas – because men know!

A third of the time.

NOTE: I have no idea why Christian J. put the word “women” in quotes in the title of his blog post. Like his now-legendary two-dot ellipses, this is a mystery that may forever remain unsolved. Or you could ask him, I guess.

EDITED TO ADD: This post has now inspired a completely disingenuous “Yahoo Answers” query from an antifeminist concern troll who seems to be pretending that this post was not DRIPPING IN SARCASM. Add your answers, if you want!

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Lauralot
Lauralot
8 years ago

@Ami: Well, clearly the MRAs would point to this thread as evidence of the feminist hive mind. Or something.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

“I did not know there was any type of stereotype that would make a trans woman envious of a cis woman. I thought Mags was frankly unique in that regard.”

But you supposedly know everything, because you’ve had non-het relationships.
Jesus Hell.
I wonder if even YOU are buying your own bullshit at this point.

lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

@Scar

I’ve had a boyfriend. Can I set up a business as an oracle now?

Pecunium
8 years ago

magdylen also says problematic things about men (at least men who aren’t the right stripe of MRA)

pavlovsothercat
8 years ago

I can’t really be bothered to get access to the research that ‘inspired’ this, but I’m betting that the sample size and methodology means the difference between these results indicating that men can sense periods and these results being pure random chance is statistically insignificant.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

@Lowquacks

No you can’t. Men can’t be oracles. Because misandry!

Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
8 years ago

Look, I get why what she was saying was problematic but you guys are preachy and self-righteous as fuck, do you not see that? Well-intentioned HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS tend to not be aware of all possible interpretations of things they say, or be naive and genuinely not realize something may be offensive to some group they’ve had no contact with whatsoever or are in a bad mood so say something shitty they regret later

A lot of feminist spaces just have this overly policed, walking-on-eggshells atmosphere. It’s not somewhere you can be wrong or make honest mistakes even if you’re willing to learn, without a bunch of holier-than-thou types descending on you and picking apart your every word. This is one of the reasons for ‘I’m not a feminist but’. This is what people mean when they accuse you of ‘political correctness’ It’s not about being against prejudice, it’s about the smug, self-righteousness that’s used to enforce it.

Give people a fucking break, I’m sure you’re not so perfect yourselves

Bostonian
8 years ago

What does that have to do with the OP?

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

It’s not somewhere you can be wrong or make honest mistakes even if you’re willing to learn

That is totally how I would choose to accurately and honestly represent someone who consistently says, in as many words, “I’m sorry you were offended, but I was still right to say what I said.”

This is one of the reasons for ‘I’m not a feminist but’.

Oh my christ, don’t I wish this were a more consistent feature of feminist spaces.

This is what people mean when they accuse you of ‘political correctness

My heart, she breaks. “Political Correctness” is nothing but an attempt for privileged people to make marginalized people look like terrible people for looking out for themselves.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Well-intentioned HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS tend to not be aware of all possible interpretations of things they say, or be naive and genuinely not realize something may be offensive to some group they’ve had no contact with whatsoever or are in a bad mood so say something shitty they regret later

Soooooo… we should ignore them when they do? I, for one, hope that if I say something well-intentioned and it ends up hurting people, they will tell me so I don’t do it again.

Bostonian
8 years ago

MRAs are so understanding of everyone! They are totally safe to speak to and disagree with!

In NOT land.

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Question: how can feminists be both too aggressive AND too PC?

Other question: have you noticed how rarely are people really willing to learn? Saying “I’m willing to learn” isn’t enough. (same thing is true for apologies)

Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
8 years ago

““Political Correctness” is nothing but an attempt for privileged people to make marginalized people look like terrible people for looking out for themselves.”

Yeah, often it is. Sometimes when people whine about ‘PC gone mad’ they’re whining that marginalized people are getting offended when they insult them.

Other times, it’s a reaction to a genuine atmosphere of censorship that kills discussion. Makes you not want to bother even entering a discussion if you don’t toe the party line because you will be descended upon by the self-righteous.

I’m not just talking about the full-on jerks here. Just well-meaning people who may be blind to their own privilege who get shouted the fuck down before they’ve started. Who may have otherwise been willing to stick around and learn.

Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
8 years ago

“Soooooo… we should ignore them when they do? I, for one, hope that if I say something well-intentioned and it ends up hurting people, they will tell me so I don’t do it again.”

Yes, but believe it or not, it’s possible to tell someone this without coming across as smug and holier-than-thou

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I’m confused. How can well-meaning privilege-blind people learn if they never get called on their (our) bullshit?

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

“Soooooo… we should ignore them when they do? I, for one, hope that if I say something well-intentioned and it ends up hurting people, they will tell me so I don’t do it again.”

Yes, but believe it or not, it’s possible to tell someone this without coming across as smug and holier-than-thou

Oh goody, that sounds swell. Please tell us how we should have responded to Kavette.

ithiliana
8 years ago

@Viscaria: I dunno, he’s coming across as pretty darn “smug and holier-than-thou” in his manly commentary to us all. *settles back to watch what happens to this particular troll though it’s more fun to watch Brandon bow to DAVID FUTRELLE’S BIDDING*

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

So, feminists shouldn’t be PC because it might offend the delicate ego of blind-to-privilege people?

I think there might be a hole in your logic.

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

I’m confused. How can well-meaning privilege-blind people learn if they never get called on their (our) bullshit?

Agreed. That’s what happen 99% of the time outside feminists/lgbt/etc spaces. One shouldn’t be able to engage in casual racism/transphobia/homophobia/misogyny… without being heavily called on it.

Anyway, you assume that somebody that go away is somebody who didn’t learn anthing. That might be wrong. Very often are people influenced or convinced without them saying so, because of our ego and the need of time to accept a new idea.

Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
8 years ago

Oh I was just having a rant and I’m a she

“I’m confused. How can well-meaning privilege-blind people learn if they never get called on their (our) bullshit?”

It’s not that, it’s just the attitude people tend to call it out with, like their shit doesn’t stink (you say ‘our’ bullshit so I guess I don’t mean you). Sometimes it’s like people aren’t being called out, they’re being beaten down, and then everyone has a right-on little high 5 about how progressive and enlightened they are. I dunno

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

And sometimes, well-meaning people say something they shouldn’t, and when called on it refuse to retract it, add other bad stuff, make “I’m sorry you’re offended”-type apologies and keep defending what they said. The reaction is then that other people keep calling them on that.

Why don’t you do what Viscaria said?

ithiliana
8 years ago

@BOris: Sorry for misdgendering, and assuming too much based on screen name.

darksidecat
8 years ago

Hey, I’m known for being PC, hasn’t anyone noticed? Why hasn’t anyone noticed?!

QuantumSparkle
QuantumSparkle
8 years ago

@Viscaria: Ohohohoh! I’ve got this one! You need to respond more obsequiously, because flies like honey and hate vinegar. I mean, actually they like both honey and vinegar. No! I mean, flies’ dietary preferences don’t mean anything. But you should definitely act more humble when you point out someone else’s problematic language, otherwise you’ll seem sanctimonious- and sanctimony tastes sour, right?

And that’s why vinegar tastes great! Or, er…. definitely use more compliment sandwiches to criticize people.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

QuantumSparkle wins the prize for presenting a single strategy that we might use, rather than making a bunch of vague statements about what we shouldn’t do!

Also, yeah, who invented that expression? It is silly. Flies love vinegar. And poop! Is poop-flinging a particularly effective way of altering perspectives? XD

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

New saying: You can catch more flies with poop than with anything.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Is poop-flinging a particularly effective way of altering perspectives? XD

Fox News seems to think so.

jumbofish
8 years ago

they’re being beaten down, and then everyone has a right-on little high 5 about how progressive and enlightened they are.

I don’t give a fuck about how “progressive” I look. I give a fuck that she is perpetuating old stereotypes that are fucking harmful to minorities. Of course you can complain about how we do it (tone police?) without caring because it doesn’t effect you.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

The problem with Kavette’s statements was that it wasn’t just a matter of poor language choices. It was a problem of content–of associating Mags’ misogyny with her being trans in a way that made an insulting assumption about trans women.

That actually doesn’t fall under “well-intentioned but poorly expressed.” That’s crappy intentions.

Comrade Svilova
Comrade Svilova
8 years ago

Soooooo… we should ignore them when they do? I, for one, hope that if I say something well-intentioned and it ends up hurting people, they will tell me so I don’t do it again.

Yup, me too.

zhinxy
8 years ago

That. If I say something clueless and hurtful about trans people, or any group of people, I damn well hope I get called out on it. My feelings aren’t what’s important in that case.

That actually doesn’t fall under “well-intentioned but poorly expressed.” That’s crappy intentions.

And that doesn’t make her evil, and this isn’t some sort of witch hunt or Maoist purge or wtfever. But it shouldn’t just be allowed to go unquestioned. And if, maybe, things do, in some spaces become dogpiles or high fives or attacks, I don’t think that happened here and now.

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Other times, it’s a reaction to a genuine atmosphere of censorship that kills discussion.

What discussion do you believe is valuable here that’s been killed by asking Kavette to stop making transphobic assumptions about trans women?

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

If the answer is “a discussion about WHY it’s wrong/incorrect/misguided/etc” or something like that, that’s already been had and rejected. So even a “but then she’ll never learrnnn” argument isn’t valid here. We’ve already explained over and over what the issue is. The discussion of the discussion has been done. xD

So what’s the valuable discussion you believe was killed by an “atmosphere of censorship”?

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

@Zhinxy nobody called Kavette a terrible person, or a horrible feminist or even a bad friend/ally. I didn’t say “YOU AND KAVE ARE NOT MY FRIENDS ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU ARE TRANSPHOBIC ASSHOLES”. I just asked her to stop making assumptions about queer people. So did everybody else xD Why are we talking about intentions? Nobody went into what her evil intentions must have been…

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

[quote]Yeah, often it is. Sometimes when people whine about ‘PC gone mad’ they’re whining that marginalized people are getting offended when they insult them.

Other times, it’s a reaction to a genuine atmosphere of censorship that kills discussion. Makes you not want to bother even entering a discussion if you don’t toe the party line because you will be descended upon by the self-righteous.[/quote]
So goes the claim, but every time it’s more like what I said than what you said. Funny how you’re insisting that now, when someone starts with something ridiculously transphobic and insists on standing by it, we’ve gone too far.

Fuck off.

[quote]I’m not just talking about the full-on jerks here. Just well-meaning people who may be blind to their own privilege who get shouted the fuck down before they’ve started. Who may have otherwise been willing to stick around and learn.[/quote]
I totally believe in the sincerity of anyone who claims the only thing stopping them from being good allies was being told they were being assholes with an -ism problem.

darksidecat
8 years ago

Anyone who fucking thinks an oppressed group owes them being nice when they do something oppressive is being a fucking asshole.

*Oppressor punches oppressed in the face*
Oppressed: “Hey, you punched me in the face. That hurts me. Stop doing that please.”
Oppressor” “I didn’t intend to hurt you when I punched you in the face. Anyways, you sort of deserved it, why can’t I punch you in the face? Asking me not to punch you in the face makes me feel bad, and it makes me like you less.”
Oppressed: “Seriously, it hurts, stop fucking doing it.”
Oppressor: “Why are you so mean to me? Why are you swearing at me? You and everyone like you is so nasty! I’m leaving!” *storms off in a huff*

Comrade Svilova
Comrade Svilova
8 years ago

I just asked her to stop making assumptions about queer people. So did everybody else xD Why are we talking about intentions? Nobody went into what her evil intentions must have been…

Exactly. It seems like how this conversation often goes down is that the person who has been asked to examine/change hir BEHAVIOR ends up changing the conversation to intentions. But it’s not really about intentions at all.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

It’s not impossible for political correctness to go to far. It does happen and it annoys me a lot because it draws attention away from the real issues and makes all legitimate attempts to solve racist/sexist/other-ist problem look bad.

Recently, Obama was holding an online discussion and one woman asked him to “do a jig” for her. Obviously, the woman annoyed me for wasting the President’s time with something so stupid, but all Gawker commenters could say was, “Oh my god, she said ‘jig”! Like ‘jigaboo!'” No, a jig is a word that means a dance. Stop it.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

Agh, “too far”*

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

It’s not impossible for political correctness to go to far. It does happen and it annoys me a lot because it draws attention away from the real issues and makes all legitimate attempts to solve racist/sexist/other-ist problem look bad.

I hope that wasn’t your ace in the hole, because that looks more like focusing on the wrong racist stereotype in the equation.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

@Crumbelievable

Agree with Rutee. Assuming that this woman is white, there definitely are racist overtones to it.

zhinxy
8 years ago

Besides, The word “jig” IS used as a slur. Nixon was fond of it. It is not unrelated to the dance.

zhinxy
8 years ago

Or at least, jigs and reels were the common dances of minstrel shows. This isn’t over sensitive people just going crazy over a coincidental resemblance to “jigaboo”.

zhinxy
8 years ago

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/55/messages/720.html

…ragtime piano was called ‘jig piano’ (in St. Louis) and the syncopating bands, like (Scott) Joplin’s, were called ‘jig bands.’ This term, taken from jig dances, even came a little later to be a designation for the Negro himself…”

So… Yeah…” a jig is a word that means a dance.”

A dance with a history, and one that you might want to look into a little deeper before you’re sure everybody is overreacting.

QuantumSparkle
QuantumSparkle
8 years ago

@zhinxy: Huh. I’ve mostly heard “jig” used to refer to traditional Scottish dancing, so thanks for the ticket to clue town. I mean, I wasn’t planning on asking the president to do a little jig or anything, but it’s good to know why saying “jig” was inappropriate, not just kinda weird.

Bostonian
8 years ago

Can you imagine anyone asking a white president to dance at all? Let alone a fucking jig?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

I can fully understand the unfortunate implications but is it possible at all that she was using jig to refer to a dance? No? That is an alternate meaning, is it not?

This is exactly what I was talking about with how political correctness bothers me sometimes. You can agree with people on a million instances of “Yeah, what that person said was definitely really racist/sexist/homophobic” but you disagree on one example and suddenly everyone turns on you for not agreeing. Either you see something as racist or you don’t and that means you’re ignorant and racist for not seeing it.There’s no winning.

Whatever.

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Either you see something as racist or you don’t and that means you’re ignorant and racist for not seeing it.

Nobody said this about you though.

Bostonian
8 years ago

I am serious in my question, too. Would anyone be asking a white president to dance any dance on demand?

exploreunnature
8 years ago

In the robotocracy, there be a list of all political correct things that have to be said or unsaid. This make things smoother.