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MRA: Men can sometimes tell when women are on their periods. Therefore, feminism is exposed as a dirty lie!

From Susan Draws. (Click on the pic to go there.)

Watch out, ladies! And feminism! Because guys are totally onto you and your dirty periods. According to a study cited on the blog What Men Think of Women, men can tell when women are on their periods – just by listening to them talk! Well, some of the time, anyway. From a writeup of the research in the Times of India:

Men can actually tell from a woman’s voice when she is having her period, a new study has claimed.

For the study, conducted by Nathan Pipitone at Adams State College and Gordon Gallup from SUNY-Albany, the researchers asked three groups of men to listen to voice recordings of ten women who counted from one to five at four different points over their menstrual cycle.

According to Popular Science, all four recordings were played in a random order and then the first group of men were asked to guess which were made while the women were on their period. The tests revealed that the men were correct 35 per cent of the time, which was described as a ‘significant’ result.

That’s right, ladies! Men can tell whether or not you’re are on the rag  – a third of the time!

I myself have developed a technique that can bring this success rate to well over 50 percent – just by listening to women talk!

All you have to do is to pay attention to subtle audio clues, like her saying:

“I just started my period.”

“My period came early this month.”

“Crap. I’ve got awful craps – because of my period.”

“Aunt Flo is paying her monthly visit.” (Note: this works only if she does not actually have an Aunt Flo.)

“It’s shark week! “ (Note: This works only if it is not actually Shark Week on the Discovery Channel.)

“It’s that time of month again. The time when I use tampons, in my vagina.”

 “I have reached that point in my menstrual cycle during which blood leaks from my hoo-ha.”

So what does all this mean? According to Christian J at What Men Are Saying About Women, it means the jig is up, feminists! In a post titled How Men can Decode “Women’s” Menstrual Cycle.. , he writes:

This information is what feminist have been trying to hide, delete and deny for many a decade. They are of the opinion that the menstrual cycle is irrelevant and superfluous to their cause and one can understand why when one looks at the studies on how women are affected by it.

In the worst case scenarios, their behaviour are effected to such a degree as to make them totally dysfunctional and even bedridden for the period(intended) of the cycle. The other side of the argument is ofcourse that it is swept under the carpet and not discussed or taken seriously..

Just some added benefits from feminism, as they live in ignorant, self induced silence..

You might as well pack it in, ladies and manginas – because men know!

A third of the time.

NOTE: I have no idea why Christian J. put the word “women” in quotes in the title of his blog post. Like his now-legendary two-dot ellipses, this is a mystery that may forever remain unsolved. Or you could ask him, I guess.

EDITED TO ADD: This post has now inspired a completely disingenuous “Yahoo Answers” query from an antifeminist concern troll who seems to be pretending that this post was not DRIPPING IN SARCASM. Add your answers, if you want!

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Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Kavette | January 30, 2012 at 11:58 pm

Ami

What do you know about my sexuality? You do know I’m married to a man and I’m (cis) female and that’s it. Life is way more complex then that and I do not in all fairness see myself as a heterosexual woman in a heterosexual relationship sexually.

In all fairness I’m old. I’ve been in pretty much any relationship combination you could have under the sun. So yes I would guess that I can come across as the knowing everything person.

I understand that is wrong, but having the lovers and friends I’ve had over the years does give you a sense of where people are coming from and Mag screams self-hate, which translates on the internet as posting against women.

I’m saying she might be reaching out by posting instead of mra boards to here.

I’ll also say that my self-identity has been problematic no matter what sexuality I’m around and is only o.k around close friends. There is no support group online for me

I never presumed to know a single thing about you except this: YOU ARE NOT A MIND READER. And you are basing everything about Magdelyn on ONE thing. That she’s trans.

You can have a billion experiences with hundreds of lovers, and it won’t give you the knowledge to be able to make the conclusions based on that single piece of information you just did. -_-

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Kavette, you are absolutely the expert on your own experience, and if someone came in here and told you how you feel and who you are based on gender or sexuality or anything, they would be wrong to do that, and we would be angry with them.

But Mags is the expert on Mags’ experience. Please give her that same respect.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

Wow Kavette, that is probably the most creepy thing I’ve ever read. What the hell.

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

One more thought.

I told Mags to get help knowing she’s a trans female.

This whole board has at one time or another including myself has told MRAL to get help, with no-one here being a 19 year old boy themselves. He’s been psychoanalyzed from the top to the bottom from every sex often with comments on his status as perhaps a reason.

What makes me calling Mags on her issues with woman any different?

IF a community is going to be all inclusive then it has to be.

If I offended anyone then of course I am sorry for that. I really don’t know what I did to upset Ami so much, and would like to know.

kladle
kladle
8 years ago

…Mag screams self-hate, which translates on the internet as posting against women.

Magz does appear to have a lot of internalized misogyny, so in that sense she is “self-hating” since she is a woman and posts anti-woman stuff. But I don’t see how that has anything to do with her being trans, and it certainly doesn’t indicate that she hates cis women more than any other subset of women.

In any case, being on the LGBTQ spectrum somewhere and knowing other LGBTQ people doesn’t give you license to proclaim or assume stuff about other people’s experiences. You clearly don’t want us assuming stuff about your gender and sexual experience, so don’t do it to Magz, either.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

“I’ve been in pretty much any relationship combination you could have under the sun.”

Aaaaahahahahaha!!!
You’re being serious, I know, but that’s what makes it hilarious.
I’ve been with every gender as a man and every gender as a woman – cis and trans of all flavours.
Please just shut your clueless cis hole?
Or do I get to claim the ‘knowing everything person x1000’ because I have vastly more sexual experience than you?
(How does that even work anyway? Does this mean I can understand supersymmetry and M theory just because I’ve fucked a lot of diverse people, as a diverse person?)

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

“I really don’t know what I did to upset Ami so much, and would like to know.”

You’ve already been fucking told, you disingenuous snot.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

This whole board has at one time or another including myself has told MRAL to get help, with no-one here being a 19 year old boy themselves.
Seriously, you think that’s why people have asked MRAL to get help? Wow.

Magatha
Magatha
8 years ago

Ha! O yes. What bleeds exactly zero days of the month, but can lure you in and bite you to death with those fearsome netherfangs, and yet lives? It is me, a robust and renegade elderwoman. Fear me. The blood you see down there? It has not been mine for a decade.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Oh great, now we’re feeding MRAL’s belief that he really is being unfairly persecuted. That’s sure to improve the situation.

If you seriously can’t understand the difference between “your behavior indicates that you have some anger issues towards women – get therapy” and what you said to Magdelyn, Kavette, I’m not sure there’s any way for us to explain it, other than pointing out that “19 year old male virgin who resents women” is not a group that is historically or currently disadvantaged, or that most commenters here have significant privlege in relation to.

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

I never presumed to know a single thing about you except this: YOU ARE NOT A MIND READER. And you are basing everything about Magdelyn on ONE thing. That she’s trans.

No…

I’m basing my view of Magdelyn because of the level of anger and disconnect in her posts here and her blog.

I’m hoping that perhaps because this is a trans friendly space that fact that she is trans she might find some friends instead of just equal hostility given back as she would have in the mra.

Your right that I’m not a mind-reader. I have never met a trans woman as far as I know that hates women like Mags does.

darksidecat
8 years ago

What do you know about my sexuality? You do know I’m married to a man and I’m (cis) female and that’s it. Life is way more complex then that and I do not in all fairness see myself as a heterosexual woman in a heterosexual relationship sexually.

1) You are not fucking trans, yet you feel that you can act like an expert on trans people’s experiences and psychoanalyze us.
2) Internalized queerphobia is no excuse for queerphobia, internalized misogyny doesn’t excuse misogyny, internalized classism doesn’t excuse classism, etc. I don’t fucking care in this context what your sexuality is, what you said was really messed up.

In all fairness I’m old.

One of the best cis allies I have ever known was a woman as old as my grandmother. This is not an excuse. Neither does your age give you justification for dismissing everyone else’s experiences.

I’ve been in pretty much any relationship combination you could have under the sun. So yes I would guess that I can come across as the knowing everything person.

I understand that is wrong, but having the lovers and friends I’ve had over the years does give you a sense of where people are coming from and Mag screams self-hate, which translates on the internet as posting against women.

Ah, the I have had X friends/lover excuse. You are not a fucking expert on trans experience, and, if you do have trans friends or lovers, I feel really fucking sorry for them at the moment.

I’m saying she might be reaching out by posting instead of mra boards to here.

If that’s what she is doing, your total fucking transphobic nonsense is the exact opposite of helping.

I’ll also say that my self-identity has been problematic no matter what sexuality I’m around and is only o.k around close friends. There is no support group online for me

This is largely irrelevant to this conversation, esp. as you have already said you are cis. See above.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Well I can’t speak for anyone but myself, Kavette, but you have most certainly offended me, and if you’re sorry about that, you can show it by no longer holding on to this tooth-and-nail. If all you’re willing to offer is an “I’m sorry” and no change in behaviour, I do not accept.

kladle
kladle
8 years ago

We’ve asked MRAL to go find help for himself because
1. he’s exhibited a number of warning signs for mental health issues
2. he’s significantly disruptive on this board and shows patterns of relational abusiveness
3. he’s told us that he is unhappy and dissatisfied and frequently tells us about his life distresses
4. his behavior over the past months indicates he has specific problems with anger and jealousy

You’ve told Magz to get help because
1. She’s trans
2. She’s a misogynist

See the difference here?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

“Your right that I’m not a mind-reader. I have never met a trans woman as far as I know that hates women like Mags does.”

And this is another good reason not to try to make assumptions about her based on the fact that she’s trans (which btw I didn’t know for sure until this thread, which shows you how little it seems to impact the way she comments here). Who knows why she’s so angry with women as a group? Maybe she hates her mother. Maybe she had a really bad falling out with a female friend. Maybe her dad was a misogynist and she learned it from him. Who the hell knows? We can’t deduce that it’s because she’s trans, and assuming that it is plays right into a lot of really damaging narratives about trans women.

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

If you seriously can’t understand the difference between “your behavior indicates that you have some anger issues towards women – get therapy” and what you said to Magdelyn, Kavette, I’m not sure there’s any way for us to explain it, other than pointing out that “19 year old male virgin who resents women” is not a group that is historically or currently disadvantaged, or that most commenters here have significant privlege in relation to.

I hold every to the same standard. I’m not going to treat A person any differently because they were historically privilege anymore then I would treat B person who was not. People are individuals.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

“I hold every to the same standard. I’m not going to treat A person any differently because they were historically privilege anymore then I would treat B person who was not. People are individuals.”

LOL

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Besides that people didn’t tell MRAL to get therapy on only 2 pieces of information “19 year old cis man” and “misogynist” (MRAL doesn’t stop talking about himself after all)… you didn’t simply say “Magdelyn get therapy” you made speculations about how she hates cis women because she’s jealous of not being one because she’s a trans woman. And THAT is what you wanted her to get therapy for >:

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Also, just in general, “you’re just jealous” is one of the most infuriating, aggressively stupid arguments on the internet. Sucks that people use it so often.

Magatha
Magatha
8 years ago

Ha! I see I have arrived in the middle of a grievous conflict. As you were. I am unmoved.

katz
8 years ago

Also, you broke the italics.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Does anyone know how to fix the italics? It’s annoying.

katz
8 years ago

Nope; I just tried. Either David can use his magic on it or we can wait for a new page.

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

I have never met a trans woman as far as I know that hates women like Mags does.

Then all your experience doesn’t cover this does it? If you’ve never met a trans woman like Magdelyn, you can’t even claim that she fits some sort of pattern that you’ve experienced. -_- Again, you’ve made assumptions based on the fact that she’s a trans woman -_-

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

David usually fixes it.

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Now I feel like I’m not really talking for myself xD

Or I’m being sarcastic >_>

darksidecat
8 years ago

I’m basing my view of Magdelyn because of the level of anger and disconnect in her posts here and her blog.

She’s no more angry or disconnected than, say, the cis women over at Hooking Up Smart (okay, she’s not even that bad, I read the first page of her blog, it’s not that it doesn’t contain a few problematic things, but I certainly don’t see an unusual level of disconnect or anger there).

Also, this reads as if it is okay to dismiss a trans woman’s anger or opinions based on her being trans and angry, which it isn’t.

I have never met a trans woman as far as I know that hates women like Mags does.

Then why did you jump right into assuming her issues with sexism are all about her being trans?

Scar
Scar
8 years ago


I hold every to the same standard. I’m not going to treat A person any differently because they were historically privilege anymore then I would treat B person who was not.

Then you belong on an MRA site, not a feminist site.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

BTW, can someone link me the codes for quoting/html/etc on this blog? I can’t find it anywhere

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

[blockquote] text [/blockquote]

replace the [ with < and so forth

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

I hold every to the same standard. I’m not going to treat A person any differently because they were historically privilege anymore then I would treat B person who was not. People are individuals.

Even if this weren’t a patently stupid thing to say, you don’t judge people as individuals. You specifically stated that you thought Mags’ sexism is because she’s trans. Go away.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

Cheers!

Blue Jean
Blue Jean
8 years ago

@Megpie;

How the hell does he work that out?

It was Newt Gingrich, so Maude alone knows how he worked that out. Back in the ’90s, the then Speaker was saying that women shouldn’t serve in the armed forces because they might have to be in a ditch for thirty days, and they would get “infections”. Al Franken joked “I wonder how Newt is going to tell his daughter that she just got her first “infection”.”

Apparently, Newt was not amused and confronted Franken over it, as Al depicts in his book Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot.

2-D Man
2-D Man
8 years ago

Blackbloc asked me:

How do you arrive at [1 in 4 odds of guessing correctly]?

From the OP:

the researchers asked three groups of men to listen to voice recordings of ten women who counted from one to five at four different points over their menstrual cycle.

According to Popular Science, all four recordings were played in a random order and then the first group of men were

Of course, trusting these numbers means trusting an MRA, so I’m probably wrong.
It’s also remotely possible that two of the recordings were taken during each volunteer’s period, but I think the assumption otherwise is justified.

Magpie
8 years ago

@ Blue Jean;

*boggle* And this guy has a wife and kids? You’d think he would have come across teh concept before o.0

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

Rutee

My first post about this you agreed with.

For the record I believe Mag’s issues with women in general are not because she is a trans woman but might be compounded because she is a trans woman who also hates women. Not that she’s a trans woman singular.

I also said I’d never met a trans woman with these issues but Mag’s herself seems to as a individual have these issues imo

I did say perhaps for her it had something to do with jealously about periods. I was talking about Mags and in no way about trans women in general (as I’ve never met a trans woman who felt this way).

Hence Mags is a individual with her own hang-ups which have nothing to do with other woman who could be lumped in as a group with her.

Are you all lacking trolls to dump on?

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Is it not possible that you said something that was really really problematic and cissexist? And you are being incredibly defensive and unapologetic about it? Or is the only explanation you can think of as to why people are angry at you is that we just lack “trolls to dump on”? -_-

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

Is it not possible that you said something that was really really problematic and cissexist?

Our was taken out of context in a way that was never meant that way.

And you are being incredibly defensive and unapologetic about it?

Because I’ve read what I wrote in the beginning of this thread and there is nothing to apologize for except for apologizing for hurt feelings if it was taken the wrong way.

Ami Angelwings
8 years ago

Now to do something totally different:

HEY WEG OF FORS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU’RE STILL READING!!!

OZY WANTS YOU TO STALK ZIR MORE BECAUSE ZIE WANTS THE PAGEVIEWS AND THINKS YOU’RE ZIR BEST CHANCE OF ZIR GETTING A DEATH THREAT THIS YEAR

that is all 😀 (srsly zie did want me to pass that on, zie’s just shy)

(also look up the name: Phaedra Starling)

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

I do however take full responsibility for breaking the italics. I’m 99% sure that was my fault.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

My first post about this you agreed with.

No I didn’t. I said Mags was trying to be one of the “Good ones”. Don’t pretend I foisted this on her being trans, or made any other comment about how and why. You fucked this one up singularly.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’m not understanding the need to dig your heels in here, Kavette. When multiple people found your comment really problematic, including at least one person who’s trans themselves, isn’t it worth considering that hey, maybe that comment actually was problematic.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Actually the assumption that Rutee meant anything about Mags’ trans status is pretty baffling to me, when it would be much more easily read as a statement about Mags trying to be one of the good women, like the women who post on The Spearhead. Nothing to do with her trans status at all.

Scar
Scar
8 years ago

Hey Kavette, how about you acknowledge how your bullshit psychoanalyst crap is really triggering for some trans people?

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

Scar,

If I’ve hurt anyone for what I said I can honestly say I didn’t mean to.
I apologize for that.

All I can say is I’ve never been involved in the internet community and I’m probably really bad at it.

Not much else to say from that.

My hunch about Magdalene I still have to stand behind. Because she’s trans does not give her any excuse at all for giving a mra position. It may however in her own way give a reason that she can perhaps deal with.

Again.. only mra type trans I’ve ever met.

darksidecat
8 years ago

Scar,

If I’ve hurt anyone for what I said I can honestly say I didn’t mean to.
I apologize for that.

All I can say is I’ve never been involved in the internet community and I’m probably really bad at it.

Not much else to say from that.

My hunch about Magdalene I still have to stand behind. Because she’s trans does not give her any excuse at all for giving a mra position. It may however in her own way give a reason that she can perhaps deal with.

Again.. only mra type trans I’ve ever met.

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Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

That’s all great darksidecat that you only except those that don’t offend you as votes.

Where is that going to get you besides face palms? Is Newt Gingrich your best case senerio?

darksidecat
8 years ago

That’s all great darksidecat that you only except those that don’t offend you as votes.

Where is that going to get you besides face palms? Is Newt Gingrich your best case senerio?

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lowquacks
lowquacks
8 years ago

This whole board has at one time or another including myself has told MRAL to get help, with no-one here being a 19 year old boy themselves.

We’ve told MRAL to get help because he needs help, not because of some stereotype about his gender or sexuality. That’s the difference.

Also, what am I? Chopped liver?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

This is starting to reach fandom wank levels of ridiculousness (if we object to language that sounds transphobic then Newt Gingrich wins?).

Kavette – you can either admit that the comment about Magdelyn being a misogynist MRA sympathiser because she’s trans and jealous of cis women was out of line in that it’s a. not something you could possibly know and b. playing into harmful narratives about trans women, or you can just let it go. There is no “if I just keep justifying the comment everyone will eventually agree with me that I was right to make it” option.