“The dried-up vagina is a tool of the state, and population control.”
Marriage: Not an effective form of birth control.
When we first met Spearhead commenter Rmaxd, he was raving about how our technological society had rendered women obsolete. He’s back, this time taking on, well, women again, and welfare, and declining birth rates, and, well, it’s all a little bit hard to follow.
Let’s start with Rmaxd’s basic premises:
Women are serially monogamous or hypergamous & are infertile for the majority of their lives
While men are polygamous, & FERTILE for the majority of their lives
Marriage has always been used as the earliest form of birth contraception, limit the amount of children a fertile male can have, by forced mating with a single infertile woman for the rest of his life.
We are off to a bad start here. Is there anything in all that that’s correct? Among other things: marriage is most decidedly not a particularly effective form of birth control. (The show Eight is Enough was based on a real family, and I suspect we’ve all met people with enough siblings to fill a bus.) But let’s continue; Rmaxd is on a roll:
As the government can no longer force this sort of mating on infertile womens, especially in the lower moronic, under educated peasantry states,
As women want alphas,
Obviously sluts & whores, are simply mimicing infertile women, as only infertile dried up vaginas, can afford to sleep around with hundreds of men
This is why we have sluts & promiscuity, marketted to young girls today, imitate infertile women, imitate their habits, destroy your fertility, destroy your youth
A childhood of std’s & yeast infections
Yeah, I’m not even going to try to parse all that.
In any case, as Rmaxd argues, these “infertile” ladies somehow still manage to pop out a few kids when they’re young, and the evil welfare state rewards them for it:
It’s essentially birth control by sponsoring infertile women, most women have a couple of kids, basically enough to live off the welfare & free housing
As we all know, single mothers live lives of untold luxury and indolence.
What we have here is essentially welfare for infertile women, as they’re no longer able to siphon cash from enslaving men into walking wallets & their magical vagina’s a pit of std’s & warts
In the past, you see, women could enslave men by marrying them. Now they can’t get dudes to stick around, so instead they enslave men by not marrying them, raising their kids on their own with the help of welfare money. It’s all very devious.
Rmaxd would prefer that the welfare money go to the fathers:
If we had welfare for men who had kids, with different women, we would have a healthy birth rate, instead of the declining birth rate we have now … this is all about rewarding & protecting a womans sexuality over a mans sexuality
It all leads to what Rmaxd calls:
The new another dark age of female fanatical male hate,
sponsored & policed by the church of radical feminist mangina, & government
The dried up vagina, as a tool of the state & population control
This barely coherent spew of woman-hatred – and it’s even less comprehensible without my edits and annotations – still managed to draw a few upvotes from the regulars, proving that internet misogynists will upvote pretty much anything so long as it contains the requisite level of anti-woman vitriol.
In case you’re feeling especially bored this lazy Sunday, the whole Spearhead thread is a trainwreck of misogyny and racism – including some fairly obnoxious discussions of black “Welfare Queens” and Mexican immigrants from a fellow called Keyster. Does that (fake) name sound familiar? You may know him as a fairly regular contributor to A Voice for Men and the producer of the AVfM internet radio show.
Posted on January 22, 2012, in $MONEY$, a voice for men, antifeminism, crackpottery, evil women, manginas, marriage strike, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, oppressed white men, racism, reactionary bullshit, sluts, the spearhead. Bookmark the permalink. 447 Comments.
Moewicus, after this final post, David set Brandon a challenge to post without referring to himself. Suffice it to say, Brandon didn’t do very well with the challenge. Check some of the later pages of the same thread for updates.
One particularly hilarious update on the challenge.
Ashley Phinn, I hope you do realise that your boyfriend is such a colossal narcissist that many of the posters here doubted your very existence as one of his many fabrications (indeed, some still do) – do look after yourself!
Ashley Phinn,
BRANDON SAYS HE IS GOING TO LEAVE YOU AND MOVE TO THAILAND!
Cause he owes you nothing.
Watch out sister!
Brandon isn’t banned. I just put him on moderation and told him he’d have to post some comments in which he didn’t refer to himself before I let him comment unmoderated again. He refused.
@burgundy:
They believe that all women ovulate on days 10-16 of their monthly cycle and if a group of women live together, they have their periods at the same time so they ovulate at the same time so that they all can get pregnant by an alpha male. Roissy/Heartiste made several postings about it :
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/the-number-one-dead-giveaway-that-your-wife-is-about-to-cheat/
Hey David, what’s the IP address for Ashley?
Speaking of ancestry, I’m apparently a descendant of John F. Kennedy on my mother’s side, and some sort of distant cousin to Daniel Day Lewis on my father’s side. Cool beans, huh?
According to my grandma, we’re related to Rob Roy and Grover Cleveland! Neat.
Ugh that ovulation thing…it just smacks of thinking of women as packs of animals. That we are all the same and slaves to our biology. It’s gross.
A quick google search doesn’t show any Ashley Phinn… You’d think she would at least have a relative on facebook even if she didn’t have one with an unusual last name like that. (unless that is her middle name or not her real name but thats still unusual)
I think after reading that I believe in the existence of Ashley even less XD
I mean squealing about his sexual prowess because you “banned” him? Yeah ok “Ashley”…
I used to be ashnostic, but this last post has switched me to firm A-ashism.
What I don’t understand about Ami’s post is why they are against sexual harassment law. Do they think that people should have to trade sex for jobs? It’s not about “sexual openness,” it’s about, you know, not being harassed and being able to get your work done.
Also there are woman-only trains because MEN KEEP GROPING THEM.
I used to know a girl who claimed to be descended from Captain Morgan of Captain Morgan’s Rum.
My own family are mostly indistinguished subsistence farmers. Who had lots of babies.
Jumbofish,
My last name isn’t phinn. It’s a nickname I got in high school from my best friend. I wasn’t squealing about anything sexual, just that him and I spend more time together because he isn’t posting on this site.
Xanthe,
Unfortunately, you have a twisted view of him because he takes some strange pleasure in playing the devils advocate. His mother is like that too, so he most likely takes after her.
David,
He might as well be…he gets stubborn. It’s cute sometimes.
Love Ashley <3
David is being coy about Ashley’s IP address!
I should point out that if it is B-don hiding behind his sockpuppet GF, he’s still failed David’s challenge, since “Ashley’s” comment refers to him several times.
Oh, FFS.
What’s more likely, that B-don figured.out how to use The Onion Router and hide his IP, or that Ashley really does exist and is as obsessed with B-don as he is with himself?
Hint to Ashley: Real people talk about themselves occasionally. What’s it like being with an overweening narcissistic assholes, for example?
I was willing to accept that Brandon had a girlfriend named Ashley (anything else, I was dubious on).
Now, though, am firmly in the Ashtheistic site.
Look person posting under ashley phinn. if your life is better since Brandon’s refusing to participate here (and lord knows our lives are better too), don’t YOU starting posting here and trying to change our minds about Brandon or anything else.
It’s too LOLtastic for words–classic sockpuppeting move. I bet next you’ll be telling us that GASP the lurkers support you in email.
My first thought was that Ami’s bored. But if it’s Brandon, his narcissism is ADORABLE! “I know I can’t talk about myself, but if “Ashley” does then THAT’s ok, right?”
“I know I can’t talk about myself, but if “Ashley” does then THAT’s ok, right?”
He really does love himself. Someone has to, I suppose.
Hey there, Brandon. You do realize that the girlfriend who you told us called this site a bunch of “man haters” wouldn’t start posting here, right? Of course you don’t. Because you’re an idiot.
Anyway, I thought Ashley got off on Brandon reading out the comments here. Why’d he stop? Cudda got some strange and kinky luvin in there ;D
I had a great-aunt who would smuggle booze in from Mexico during Prohibition. She and her husband had hollowed-out panels in their car where they would hide the bottles. One time they got ambitious, though, and stuffed a few more bottles under my great-aunt’s shirt and padded it to look like she was pregnant. They thought the jig was up when Border Patrol asked her to step out of the car, but she went full-on Southern Bitch on them: “Ah can’t believe, that in mah condition…” They told she could stay in the car.
@Joanna: He probably forgot he said that, just like every other claim he backtracked on.
But this has made my morning hilarious, so I’m not complaining.
Hey, Ash, check your jewelry box/dresser/whatever for hidden cameras.
Just sayin’.
@Nimue
Awesome name and awesome gran!!!
Unfortunately I’m the disreputable maggot in my long respectable stock. My maternal granddad was one of the founding members of the Communist Party of Sri Lanka and my paternal grandfather was a very highly respected lawyer. Big ass shoes to fill, and unfortunately my feet aren’t growing in this pair of loafers :P
You might also want to check your bathroom. Can never be too careful.
So… Brandon was spending all his spare time here, despite what he told us. And he spent a lot of what time he wasn’t spending here ranting about manboobz, so much so that Ashley noticed a huge difference in the quality of time he’s spending with her.
What a catch he is..
Are all these crazies right wing? Libertarians? The “tool of the state” thing made me wonder. Are there a bunch of socialist MRAs out there as well?
Apparently Ashley Phinn had a baby last year:
http://announce.jpress.co.uk/7840114?s_source=jpne_gz
One of my ancestors, a great-great-great grandfather of mine, was known as “Honest John, the Hanging Judge”. Apparently, he sentenced a lot of people to public executions for minor crimes. He was also known as honest, though, for hiding money from Quantrill’s raiders during the Civil War, and returning the money to the county treasury after the war was over. He could have kept the money and nobody would have known. One of my ancestors on my mother’s side of the family is Sam Houston, the first President of Texas before it became a US state. I’m glad my parents got involved in genealogy stuff recently. It allowed me to learn these interesting facts about my ancestors without doing any of the boring research.
I could believe that Phinn is actually Finn. Still, I firmly believe that Ashley is an imaginary girlfriend.
Well since Brandon is so cheap, fake girlfriend is more likely.
Dying to know if Ashley’s IP address makes her claim to be Brandon’s GF likely … or if she’s a sockpuppet. Because the idea that she would start posting here to celebrate that Brandon is no longer posting here … hilarious!
I don’t think the IP would prove anything, since they could reasonably be two people posting from the same computer.
The fact that Ashley is just as obsessed with Brandon as Brandon is–that’s somewhat more telling. (Also, being banned from one site rarely cures an Internet obsession. A guy like him doesn’t just run out of places to troll.)
I think Ashley should be challenged to make a post that does not reference “her” “boyfriend.”
“I think Ashley should be challenged to make a post that does not reference “her” “boyfriend.”
I don’t think Brandon is programmed that way….
Anyway, ancestors!
My mother’s father left Germany relatively soon after the rise of the Nazis. His brother, however, failed to take a hint from the border guards that a bribe was required, and as a result was stuck in Germany at age 12 while the rest of the family was stuck in America. After several months on his own as a little kid he became something of a cause celebre, with prominent American Jews advocating for him, and our family has a copy of a letter from Albert Einstein demanding my grand-uncle’s release. Eventually (not because of Einstein) my grand-uncle got out and he’s still alive today.
My mother’s mother had diptheria when her family left Germany, and because she was Jewish she was unable to get treatment. She was blind and extremely ill when the family walked past medical inspectors–her brother and father held her between their arms to make it look like they were simply walking arm in arm as an affectionate family, but in reality she was too weak to walk on her own. She didn’t get caught and she’s also still alive today, albeit with permanent eye and heart damage from the diptheria.
My father’s father lived in eastern Poland, in a small town with only a few German soldiers posted there. Because my grandfather spoke Yiddish (which is similar to German), he could talk to the Germans, while the Polish-speaking villagers could not. He became pretty good friends with some of them–they were Nazis, sure, but they were also very young men stuck in a boring little town far from home and glad for some company. They played soccer together. Then one of my grandfather’s soccer buddies came to him in the middle of the night and told him, “You have to leave now. The Gestapo is coming in the morning to take all the Jews.” That night my grandfather’s family walked across the border to Russia with only the things they could carry. My grandfather was drafted into the Russian army but lived through the war and moved to America.
My father’s mother is the only story I don’t know. She died when I was young and she didn’t talk about her experiences during the war–I don’t think my dad even knows exactly what happened to her. But I know she had been either in a concentration camp or supposed to go to one at some point. She had a tattoo on her arm and was missing a fingernail. When she came to America, it was with an adoptive Christian family; no one else from her family survived the Holocaust.
Oh, and all that above ^^^ is why I get rather extraordinarily upset at MRAs bandying about phrases like “Nazis,” “holocaust,” “genocide,” every time they have to pay a cover charge on Ladies’ Night. That’s not what a goddamn genocide looks like.
To say nothing of all the anti-semitic bullshit that crawls in around here.
Holly, that’s amazing.
Molly Ren:
Mine were major politicians.
Which isn’t much fun if you share the same surname as well as genes, but almost entirely disagree with the positions they took on just about everything. Fortunately, it wasn’t until I read my grandfather’s obituary that I realized just how far apart we were politically.
I really wonder what sort of thing Brandon told her… he after all wasn’t banned; he was set a challenge. He was asked to show David a small modicum of respect, in David’s place. All he had to do was make one post that wasn’t about Brandon.
Just one. He could have talked about Football, or bowling, or IT problems, the ways in which secretly recording people has been used as exculpatory evidence (it’s not as if we’d not have known that was really about Brandon, but he could have talked about concrete cases that weren’t him secretly taping women lest they accuse him; falsely, of rape).
But even that level of non-narcissism was beyond him; to grant someone the respect they were due… that’s not for Brandon.
What’s also made me feel a little jaded about looking up my geneology was that there’s many, many family rumors and very, very little documentation of anyone outside my immediate family. (Example: my mom’s side of the family is convinced that someone on my dad’s side of the family married a Cherokee, but no one on my dad’s side of the family has any idea how this rumor started. XD) I understand that this is actually more the norm when looking up family histories, but it was very sobering to look through my grandfather’s documents and realize that name, birth date, occupation, and date of death were in many cases all we had left of someone’s life.
Canadian plains farmers on both sides. Eastern European immigrants to Saskatchewan, and Francoalbertains. They were all Catholic, and had Catholic numbers of babies. They told my mom’s mom after her 2nd child that her system couldn’t handle it and she’d need to have a hysterectomy, and she said “you don’t seem to understand how Catholic I am!” and had 3 more babies before the operation was actually done.
My great-grandparents may have once sold eggs to John Dillinger – he was apparently in the area at the time and the man they spoke to seemed suspicious to my great-grandfather. That’s really all the cool family history I’ve got.
Uh…one of my far-removed cousins was in Ghosts of the Mississippi and one of the Jurassic Park movies, among other things. He hasn’t done any acting that I know of in years, though.
My grandfather started the first African-American studies program at his (Southern) university.
I know for a fact that I have a disinherited great uncle nobody talks about because he married (gasp!) a Lutheran girl. I also have a cousin that has never met anybody on my side of the family, and I’m not sure all of my cousins have even heard about him. It really makes me wonder what other secret relatives might be concealed on my family tree.
Viscaria, your post reminded me: The only family scandal I know of that we’ve had is that I have an aunt who disowned her family and was recently arrested for something about compiling ingredients to make meth.
…Yeah, we don’t talk about her much.
I’m related to the people who wrote the song, “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough”.
Pretty sweet, now I just have to get through people massacring the song during Karaoke.
(The Michael Mcdonald version is pretty ok, though).
I go to bed and have a busy morning and “Ashley” show up? HAHAHAHAHAHA.
We hear you like it up against the wall, Ash. BTW, definitely take others’ advice and check for hidden cameras. Also, watch your tone of voice with Brandon, he’s apparently all about RESPECT.
How pathetic.
Dammit, an hour after I leave, Ashley shows up.
Would it be sketch to email that obviously-fake address just to see if it bounces?
Actually he probably registered a Yahoo account just for this; given that name is a required field, he specifically entered an email address as a name too, obviously angling for people to email it so he can “prove” it’s “real” (and get in offsite arguments).
Actual!Ashley, if she existed, would presumably have an actual handle that isn’t her real name and isn’t what Brandon always refers to her as, and wouldn’t enter her email address in the field clearly marked “name” (something no one has ever done in the history of this site). If she was posting from Brandon’s computer, it would have Brandon’s information autofilled.
David: does the email address he entered as an email match the one he entered as a name?
If it did, the avatar would be the same color though.
@Holly – Wow. My grandparents were all in the US well before WWII, but my grandmother had cousins still in Europe. They tried to get the family to emigrate, but her cousin refused. He said, these are our neighbors, our friends. Of course we’ll be safe. None of them survived.
I saw Schindler’s List on a trip to California to visit my mother’s cousins. One cousin’s wife had been smuggled out of Krakow as a child. During the scenes filmed in Krakow, she kept leaning over and pointing out buildings and landmarks she recognized. It was really chilling and creepy.
“Tech geek knows how to use IP router and sock puppet himself: Film at 11″
As usually, Brandon is boring as hell.
AFAIK I have no awesome ancestors. I’m cool with that.
I actually did start menopause at age 23. It’s highly unusual, but not impossible.
Thing is, we’re now *coughity* years beyond that, and you cannot tell from looking at me. Hell, most strangers can’t even tell it’s been *coughity* years since I was 23, judging by the number who ask me when I’m going to graduate from high school. LOL. It’s almost as if the state of my FSH/LH cycle has no bearing whatsoever on the state of my wrinkles – or total lack thereof.
I am extremely white and totally infertile, though, so I guess I’m everything that’s wrong with America.
Also, I’m a direct descendant of William Bradford, that grouchy-assed Mayflower-riding Puritan who ran Plymouth Colony for umpty years and whose first wife fell overboard and drowned even before the Indians could shower her with turkey and football at the first Thanksgiving. (I’m descended from his second wife, along with literally thousands of other USians.)
I, for one, expect to be the famous ancestor.
My sources have just confirmed there isn’t a single person in the entire United States named “Ashley Phinn”.
@Amused: But what do your sources say about Thailand?
Ashley,
I’m amused you think my views of B_don are “unfortunately twisted” – we only have words to go on in this medium, and your partner has impressed many people here (in the wrong way) with his overweening arrogance and solipsism, to the point of obsessiveness: he failed to meet David’s request that he not talk about himself in order to be taken off moderation. Since he is such a colossal narcissist, would you like to demonstrate that unlike him you are able to engage on some topic other than yourself or B_don?
Amused,
Ashley was good enough to tell us that Phinn isn’t her actual surname – and prior to that revelation, I had discovered a woman named “Ashley Phin” on Facebook (as well as one named “Ashley Phin-borski”, whose profile is worth finding for the dreadful profile picture), so I can believe that to some degree; a lot of people have e-mail addresses that slightly obfuscate names.
Ancestors?
None of any note, sadly, and unlike PfkaE I don’t expect to leave any descendents who might view me as their ‘famous ancestor’!
Ashley, so how do you and Brandon manage your long-distance relationship? (Well, medium distance.)
Oh, we must know: how far away?
Why Carole King far away.
Darn it, I can’t share my awesome ancestor stories. Lest I hurl every last scrap of plausible deniability overboard.
@Ashley:
That’s funny, because he pretty much hates his mother. Ya think there’s some Freudian shit going on there?
@ Dracula
Me too! (Well, sort of. One of the accusers was the second wife of my whatever-great-grandfather. Cotton Mather mentioned her in one of his memoirs – she didn’t suffer any lingering effects from her “possession.”)
On the other side of the family, my great-grandmother emigrated from Poland as an unmarried 19-year-old. But I just found out that she was traveling with a 10-month-old child that no one in the family knows anything about. My mother flatly refuses to consider that this wasn’t someone else’s baby who was traveling (alone!) with my ancestor for some reason.
Leely- In my case it’s one of the Putnams, I think.
I’m unsure of the details.
I have a mystery grandfather – he was what they used to call a foundling, left on the steps of a church, we assume because his mother wasn’t married and/or had hooked up with someone her family weren’t happy about. Going by his looks he definitely wasn’t 100% Scottish, so that may have something to do with how he ended up at the church. It’s been a family game to try to guess his ethnicity based on old pictures of him, since none of us cousins knew him (he died in WW2). Grandma thinks his family was Eastern European, and he definitely looks like he was Slavic to me. This prompted many jokes when, after consistently failing at French pronunciation after taking it for many years, I started trying to learn Russian and found the pronunciation easy as could be (the grammar, not so much).
Except that I can’t roll my Rs, which makes me a failure as both a Scot and possibly some variety of Slav if you go back far enough.
Interestingly enough no one would ever believe that my grandma was fully Scottish either – her skin is too dark with no pink or blue undertones at all, and her eyes are almost black – when she was young random people used to constantly ask her if she was Spanish or Arab. I get the same thing too – whenever I’m in places where there are a lot of Middle Eastern people, I get asked if I’m Persian or Turkish. Only by people who are themselves Persian or Arab, though.
Ashley is clearly a troll mocking Brandon – the actual Ashely would giggle more, and talk about how much she enjoys being spanked.
Sockpuppetry isn’t that hard; it just takes a bit of tradecraft. I’m not surprised Brandon didn’t manage to make it work.
How silly are we to trust he meant what he said, when all we have are… his words!
To our credit, we usually assumed he was lying about everything, so we were probably right most of the time.
I tend to believe him when he talks about cameras and his repulsion of feminists.
Xanthe- thanks!
Re: Ashlatheism, I personally won’t believe she actually exists unless she posts a picture of her face with a post-it reading “We hunted the mammoth for you” stuck to her forehead. Until then I’m just assuming it’s B-don or some random troll. Maybe MRAL? I would love that.
You know, talking about Brandon even after he’s gone presumably makes him happy, so we should probably stop. That’s one ego that really doesn’t need any more feeding.
Talking about who?