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Manosphere dudes: Let’s set up fake feminist blogs to take down feminism!

On the internet, no one knows you're a dog disguised as a cat.

Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?

WITBD explained:

On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.

Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything.  And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.

Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:

I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.

His fantasies got more and more extravagant:

Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.

And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!

(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)

WITBD continued fantasizing:

Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.

And where the only people paying attention are you guys.

If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.

Wheels within wheels!

Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:

Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …

[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.

Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:

http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/

I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.

Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.

Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea.  As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:

It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.

A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.

Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …

The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.

And got busted everytime.

Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”

Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?

In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.

The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.

Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.

Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!

Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.

And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.

[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.

Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.

If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.

Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!

High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.

Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.

So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”

Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.

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Posted on January 3, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, antifeminst women, douchebaggery, hypocrisy, lying liars, manginas, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, PUA, racism. Bookmark the permalink. 1,130 Comments.

  1. Emma: You weasel. That’s not an comparative insult, it’s a description of what you do (and yes, it’s both a slur and you ought to feel the sens of insult that stems of being shamed; but I am not trying to disparage stoats, polecats, etc.).

    When shown what you did, in re blaming the victims you said it was justified, but you didn’t even own your words.

    That is true. I know I must have sounded mean when I indirectly said that people who can’t make free choices are weak.

    It didn’t, “sound mean” it was heartless, cruel, and (though tangential to my point) false. Telling people they are, “weak” and so deserve the abuse they are getting isn’t encouragement. It’s kicking them when they are down. It’s stepping on their neck.

    And you are, with that bobbing and weaving, praising yourself for being that sort of unfeeling person.

    Didn’t you read what I said? I define free choices as those that are made when you have all the needed legal rights, aren’t subjected to violence and aren’t subjected to threats.

    I did, and you are equivocating. You want to make it harder for women to do that very thing, while saying they are in that position.

    She gets married. She is, by whatever means, convinced to be a stay at home parent (it isn’t always her husband… it may be her job doesn’t promote her; because she’s married and, “will leave to have kids, so her career stagnates; and her husband is making better money [because, "he has a family to support], and so she is convinced that the benefits of work aren’t worth it). Skip ahead. The marriage has gone to hell. She’s not being paid for her labor (save in room and board; which has strings), and when she leaves you will consign her to the “bare necessities” while she is, late in life, being trained to some job which will provide, those same bare necessities.

    This, you think, is a set of choices that person has… stay in the marriage, or face penury on the street. It’s your form of, “encouragement”. It’s not a free choice, and you think the spouse isn’t worth paying what the labor they provided to the marriage is worth.

    But you call that reasonable and just. It’s neither. It’s also interesting the one-way street of your, “freely made choice”. The working partner knows that the stay at home spouse is giving up employability, and working for less than the going rate; s/he also knows that remuneration for the consideration given in that arrangement may be demanded on the termination of that agreement.

    It’s not, “punishment” (as you so tritely, and perjoratively term it), it’s payment of a debt held in forbearance.

  2. Just went to Emma’s blog after reading some of the stuff here.

    Wow, yeah.

    Here’s a gem.

    “They told me that being submissive is being doting, caring, serving and putting out on demand. None of these things ever seemed like a sign of submissiveness to me, just a sign of being nice and caring about the guy.”

    Emphasis mine. So, a person making the argument that women don’t face social pressures to behave a certain way, has also made the argument that women aren’t servile and don’t put out “on demand” that they’re not being nice and caring.

    Lovely.

  3. Emma: Actually, he is against rape fundamentally, and his arguments don’t justify it. I know what his thoughts are, and I found no real evil in him (same for people who actually know him personally, unlike you)

    All of which is irrelevant.

    Really, it is. Because whatever his personal beliefs (and you will have forgive me if I doubt they are as you think them; color me cynical, but I don’t think he is an honest person), his written words; the ones he writes to persuade others not only condone and justfy rape, they encourage it.

    No, I don’t know him personally. I don’t care to, because his public persona is evil. Since he does evil, he is evil. He may be charming, and may have convinced those of weak mind, with that charm, that he is not evil, but that’s immaterial. He is doing evil. That makes him evil. That you apologise for him means you are condoning that evil, and encouraging it.

    Which… makes you complicit.

    It may even make you evil as well. Not that you care, because, “words will never hurt you.”

    Which is also a base canard; if words didn’t hurt, we’d not need a nursery rhyme to try and keep self-esteem from being destroyed by them.

  4. @Quackers
    “and men do not lose from affirmative action. This was discussed earlier on holy fuck.”

    Yes they do. I already debunked that load of crap. Two feminists yammering citing nothing but their own yammerings. The proof was words falling from their mouths.
    ———–
    @Anti-Moron’s-Rights
    “What’s changed is how learning is measured. Classrooms are overcrowded. The student-to-teacher ratio is higher than ever before,”

    Here liar.

    http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?data_set_group_id=1377

    22.3 students per teacher ratio in 1970, 16.2 students per teacher in 2002. And that rate has dropped further since that time. Since boys didn’t lose intelligence since 1970, but their grades have dropped across the board. And the only thing to change has been the method of teaching. The new method of teaching is detrimental to the way boys learn.
    ———–
    “Vote for your local school board. Vote for funding for education at all levels.”

    And the feminist solution is more government. Do we need more stumbling blocs for boys? And you want me to pay for more?
    ———–
    @Kyrie
    “MESSAGE TO MRAs: there is no need to create fake extreme feminists.”

    You’re right about that. Just point any man to any feminist site, (manboobz included) to see the seething hatred of boys/men.
    ———–
    @Amused
    “Also, how the fact that I work in a male-dominated profession means men should go out and rape women.”

    So much hatred in just one sentence. Is a male dominated profession bad? How does one make the leap from male dominated profession to rape women in one sentence? You express only hatred of boys/men.
    ————
    @Pecunium
    ” NWO, you lying sack: There’s difference between civilian deaths and military deaths. Civilians deaths are unintended. Military deaths are men either forced to kill and die, or do so to protect the civilians, (women and children).”

    How is this a lie? Military men if drafted are forced to kill/die. Military men who choose to fight do so to in order to protect civilians. Civilians by contrast are protected by the military. Citing Dresden doesn’t change the fact they were civilians who goal was to protect only themselves and were not required to kill/die.
    ————
    “(Jessica Lynch… who; whatever may have been done to propagandise her situation, was in combat)..”

    Jessica Lynch admitted she passed out and was carried to safety by men. Her “combat experience” consisted of feinting and being carried to safety.
    ————
    There’s a difference between being “in combat” and being in a “combat zone.” I can be 200 miles behind enemy lines and be in a combat zone.

    The average man was given the right to vote because he could be drafted. After 99 years women’s vote they still can’t be drafted. A coupla million laws privileging women above men yet the gals haven’t managed to get their duty to selective service? I don’t really think they’re trying all that hard.
    ———–
    Here manboobz gang, Sign this for equality. It gives men equal custody in NY state. The present law in NY state is… ” In New York State if the parties cannot agree on custody or communicate effectively the mother is given sole custody.”

    http://www.change.org/petitions/the-governor-of-ny-equality-for-fathers-in-the-family-court-system

    Default female custody. How nice! The only reason for this is profit. The best part is women get to keep up the false stats of women being the primary caretaker while denying men their children. What possible excuse could any of you give for not signing. If it’s the childs welfare that concerns you, women commit the vast majority of child abuse and the safest place for a child is with the biological father.

  5. Also: All the MRA assholes who blather on about affirmative action only being tied to women: here is a Timeline (yes it’s at NOW, but it has lots of links to other sites showing the historical timeline/origins of affirmative action which didn’t even mention sex/gender in its earliest iterations.

  6. Oooooh, an online petition. NWO, why don’t you get off your dead ass, get off the computer, and do work?

  7. NWO: Explain two-spirits, if gender defines culture.

  8. NWO: How is this a lie

    Because you said something which wasn’t true. You said civilian deaths are unintended. That’s not true. Not in the past, and not now.

    That’s how it was a lie.

    Also… there are three genders in Russian. So it must be true in Spanish as well, right?

  9. “Vote for your local school board. Vote for funding for education at all levels.”

    And the feminist solution is more government. Do we need more stumbling blocs for boys? And you want me to pay for more?

    ………………

    NWO,. I suggested fighting for self-directed learning measures and ending state schooling, but you told me it was the same old thing. So, you aren’t in favor of the current system getting more funding, or with opposing state education. In that case what the hell should we do? ;)

  10. @hellkell: But he can’t work! Remember? TITLE IX HAS A QUOTA.

  11. @Pecunium

    Are civilians “required” to kill or die?

    There are only 2 genders. Other than the misfortunate hermaphrodites.

  12. @zhinxy

    Are there more teachers per students now as oppossed to 1970?

  13. Gotta love Affirmative Action and ALIMONY! Two issues that are BIG FEMINIST THINGS THAT FEMINISTS ALL LOVE AND FIGHT FOR AND PUT EVERYWHERE AND IT’S ALL THEY TALK ABOUT EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY WANT EQUALITY only when people who have a bone to pick with feminism are around!

  14. Bullshit, NWO. you said that gendered aspects are what creates cultural differences between men and women. So by your logic, if two-spirits existed in a culture, and they did, that must mean a third-gendered aspect created them.

  15. NWO: Did you say this: There’s difference between civilian deaths and military deaths. Civilians deaths are unintended. Military deaths are men either forced to kill and die, or do so to protect the civilians, (women and children).”

    Yes, you did. You said civilian deaths were unintended. That’s a lie.

    Changing the argument now (who is doing the killing) doesn’t change your initial lie.

    If you insist on maintaining the lie, I’ll start asking you about your religious practice. Can you admit you were wrong?

    I’ll wager you can’t.

  16. @NWO I don’t give a fuck, the entire school system as it stands now is a socially engineered, pseudoscientific, soul-crushing travesty that needs to be radically torn apart from the ground up and built up in accordance with science, reason, the real public good and not the good of “employers”, and above all the individual? (Please read a book someday, and let it be one by John Taylor Gatto…)

    But yes, if you count in richer communities and the fact that people had well-intentioned but ultimately broken ideas of doing all they could to shrink class size.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/class_size_reduction.html

    Does it really help? No,.

    My point wasn’t whether classes had grown or shrunk. My point is that when you get either a “raise funding and become involved at the local level in the current system” answer, you bitch about more governemtn, and when you a “state schooling needs to end” answer, you say it’s all the same, and don’t like that either.

    So WHAT. DO. YOU. WANT?

  17. @zhinxy

    Of course feminists love alimony, child support instead of equal custody, Title IX, VAWA, Mandatory arrests, Primary Aggressor, AA, and all the many other entitlements.

    I guess when the level of womens privilege in all realms of modern day society is compared to just the few privileges women enjoyed in the past it would seem like women were oppressed in the past.

    Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.

  18. As to Gender: In Russian there are three.

    Masculine

    Feminine

    Neuter.

    The same is true in German. Not my opinion; true. You can look it up; the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica could explain it all to you.

    Three genders.

    Just like

    He
    She
    Zie

    It’s called language.

  19. NWO: What you meant to say was, Men aren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.

    FTFY

  20. I’m going off to the store to pick up the latest Detective Comics. NWO, I expect that you will have answered my question by the time I return. Because if you don’t (or if you try and twist the meaning of your original statement or say something racist about Native Americans, or any other attempt to weasel out of your lie) then you will once again have marked yourself as a liar and a coward, and everyone who doubted that (which is mostly likely no one) will know it.

  21. “Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.”

    It’s funny how accurately this statement describes the Men’s Rights Movement.

  22. NWO, well…. Okay, you completely ignored my school question, and you’re proving my point that these issues aren’t so much ISSUES THAT ARE BIG FOR FEMINISTS as ISSUES PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST FEMINIST SAY ARE THEIR BIG ISSUES… But what the hell, I’ll say this –

    me and the ACLU were actually against very earlier iterations of VAWA, and I still have my reservations on some of it, but I’ve gotten a lot more mellow now that the language has become A LOT MORE gender neutral.

    So what, in your mind, exactly, is VAWA, and what is wrong with it?

  23. @zhinxy

    I want you to stop pretending to be something you’re not. You’re a feminist. You’re part of a hate movement. Contrary to the defintion of feminism. I’m sure the definition of communism in the communist library says it’s something wonderful as well. Both are the same and both are destructive.

  24. Lauralot – “Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.”

    It’s funny how accurately this statement describes the Men’s Rights Movement.”

    Srsly

  25. Someone who hates gays as much as you shouldn’t really call other people hateful.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pot_calling_the_kettle_black

  26. @zhinxy

    I want you to stop pretending to be something you’re not. You’re a feminist. You’re part of a hate movement. Contrary to the defintion of feminism. I’m sure the definition of communism in the communist library says it’s something wonderful as well. Both are the same and both are destructive.

    How am I pretending?What precisely am i pretending? You can’t just say YOU’RE PRETENDING!

  27. @Pecunium

    Are there many neuters running around? Do they lack genitals? I guess castrated men could be considered neuters. Didn’t they used to do that to boys back in ancient China? To protect the elite women? Kinda like playtoys for those elite women. Oh how they must have giggled!

  28. I preferred Emma. NWO is up to the same old boring bullshit.

  29. Also, me and CassandraSays have created a secret freedom pigeon plan for my magic libertarian Sea Country. I’m just warning you.

    (If you love freedom so much, paypal guy, why is my account asking for my social security card…)

  30. NWO, seriously, what about the Two-Spirits? Or the Fa’afafine? Or the hijra?

  31. @zhinxy

    You’re a feminist. What more needs to be said? You belong to and promote a hate movement.

  32. So NWO. Women being forbidden to work jobs they were qualified for and not being allowed to have credit cards is… not oppression?

  33. @Pecunium

    Are there many neuters running around? Do they lack genitals? I guess castrated men could be considered neuters. Didn’t they used to do that to boys back in ancient China? To protect the elite women? Kinda like playtoys for those elite women. Oh how they must have giggled!

    Yeah, that had nothign to do with the elite men and their property. But go on, tell us more about China! (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!)

  34. @zhinxy

    You’re a feminist. What more needs to be said? You belong to and promote a hate movement.

    A lot more needs to be said if you’re insisting I spend a great deal of my life engaged in pretending I “don’t want more government” actually ;)

  35. @ozymandias42

    AA, Title IX, ect, you know the bit, denies men opportunity not women. Only men are “forbidden” jobs, children ect. Every State agency for women is exactly that. A hate agency. They stay in business by promoting hatred.

  36. “NWO, seriously, what about the Two-Spirits? Or the Fa’afafine? Or the hijra?”

    Or the Waria, or the Mashoga…

    I swear, anthropology and MRAs must never meet, lest the kingdom be destroyed!

  37. What does title IX have to do with jobs and children?

    NWO, SERIOUSLY. PRETEND I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF TITLE IX. TELL ME WHAT IT IS.

  38. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    I preferred Emma. NWO is up to the same old boring bullshit.

    If you have a printer handy, print out the NWO bingo card. It’s more fun to read his comments if you make a game out of it.

  39. NWO: I shall accept your tacit admission of error in saying that civilians aren’t targeted in war.

    Sadly you are still unwilling to accept that neuter is a gender (which isn’t the same as a sex). English, it seems to give you troubles. Perhaps a correspondence course is in order, or an online tutorial.

  40. Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant

    All I was saying was that white men, and recently, in some situations white women, will be denied a job or position that they would otherwise have gotten. That’s kind of the definition of affirmative action, no matter how you try and twist it. I still support AA in some places, though, because I think it’s an unfortunate necessity due to racism, etc. Not for women, of course. Well, maybe in some areas, like the hard sciences.

  41. Not for women, of course. Well, maybe in some areas, like the hard sciences.

    You know that not all women are white, right?

  42. @zhinxy
    “Yeah, that had nothign to do with the elite men and their property. But go on, tell us more about China! (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!)”

    It has everything to do with elite women who enjoyed castrated boys as playtoys. You can’t bring yourself to say women can do any wrong. Since women can do no wrong and are always given an excuse, while men always do wrong and are held accountable. You promote hatred.

    See how quickly “you” claimed it was the fault of elite men. Women are blameless, pure, moral and altruistic. And you can bet your altruistic ass those elite women loved their little eunich playtoys and requested more and more of them. Oh for sure they wouldn’t to the “cutting” themselves. A woman sully herself by doing her own bloddletting? Perish the thought. She simply used her position of “power” to have a lesser man do it for her, If he didn’t he died.

    Why don’t you go join those Egyptian women as they pledge to be “bathed in their brothers blood.”

    “One” woman in Egypt was basically treated like an equal, by being equally beaten and the world cares. Those same women didn’t give a crap about the thousands of men who recieved the same beatings up to that point.

  43. PS Pecunium, you know Little Friedman? (And I hadn’t known he’d taken over the Seasteading movement with paypal money, so thanks for that. ;) ) Where’d you meet all these catoids? I’m connected in various six-social-degrees with agorists, and some freeman types, and one or two Mises writers, but you seem to get the hardcore scary-hilarious. I’m intrigued and a strange not-jealous feeling.

  44. Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant

    Yeah, ok, I meant not for women for being women.

  45. @zhinxy
    “Yeah, that had nothign to do with the elite men and their property. But go on, tell us more about China! (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!)”

    It has everything to do with elite women who enjoyed castrated boys as playtoys. You can’t bring yourself to say women can do any wrong. Since women can do no wrong and are always given an excuse, while men always do wrong and are held accountable. You promote hatred.

    Okay, whatever,

    Please, go on! please tell me more about china!

  46. @Pecunium

    Show me these neuter people?

    Show me a person who changes gender. Show me a person born genderless and then goes thru a natural process of morphing into a male/female. If you can do that, I’ll buy it.

  47. “One” woman in Egypt was basically treated like an equal, by being equally beaten and the world cares. Those same women didn’t give a crap about the thousands of men who recieved the same beatings up to that point.

    Your worldview, it is so interesting.

    NWO, because I’m involved in anarchist activism and social networking, I hear from these women themselves, and help pass their messages along, so I know what the chant means, and I’d be happy to join in. the point is they will be marching side by side with their brothers, and not kept back by humiliation, and they will be “covered” by the blood of men who are BEING EQUALLY OPPRESSED.

  48. (in terms of police brutality, I meant)

  49. @zhinxy

    Are you telling me those women in power were blameless?

  50. Show me a person who changes gender. Show me a person born genderless and then goes thru a natural process of morphing into a male/female. If you can do that, I’ll buy it.

    ….

    I can show you a million intersex children who are forced into the Male or Female category, often with brutal surgery.

    Where are you getting this “metamorphosis” theory???

  51. @zhinxy

    Are you telling me those women in power were blameless?

    Blameless for what? All people are “to blame” for their societies, male and female, in various degrees, and all people are products of those societies, shaped by what they teach and view as normal Systems of oppression, State, Religious, Economic, Etc, are complex, multilayered, and hard to pull apart.

    This isn’t about MEN ARE EVIL, but if you’re telling me women in harems, usually proffered as gifts to a high status men, and often prevented from leaving their compounds, were just giggling their asses off, power drunk, and demanding castration of men… Well, I don’t think you live on earth, but again, I want to hear more of your planet and it’s history.

  52. If I were to explain the administrative powers granted to many a Eunuch in the ancient world, would that somehow mean I was saying Eunuchs had all the power? No, they obviously were an oppressed class, even if they had power.

    This works for women too…

  53. @zhinxy

    Another excuse? Pledging mens blood? Now there’s an excuse for being a cheerleader of mens death? Even that’s good? I can pretty much guaruntee whose going to be doing the dying in huge numbers. It ain’t gonna be women.

    “One” woman being beaten shocks the world into hysteria. She right about one thing, she will be drenched in her “brothers” blood. Hip-hip-horaaaaaaaay!

  54. @NWO you fucken roach, do you understand what AA is? If a company has 100 jobs and 25 are set apart for minorities, there are still 75 jobs that you can compete for. And the company has to fill those 25 spots with employees from social minorities, which they fill with equally competent employees. It’s always telling when people assume that affirmative action results in less competent applicants getting jobs, like they think that those measly quotas still can’t be filled up by equally skilled non-white and/or non-male employees.

    @Jill the spinster

    “Wrt Emma’s post on pedophilia in the other thread, maybe she is positioning herself as a possible girlfriend for NWOslave???”

    While I don’t want to start a derail here, I do agree with her post (and someone else, I think Sharculese, made this point earlier in that thread) in that we, as a society, need to spend more resources into understanding pedophilia and into helping non-offending pedophiles (I personally don’t give two fucks about those who have actually offended, but others may be more compassionate than I) live with their affliction. Of course, the shit she’s written here defending her boyfriend is just repugnant

  55. I also assume it wasn’t the church that wanted the Castrati made, or that if it was, it was because the nuns loved it when balls got caught off – FUN FACT! The main reason that Castrati became so popular was the prohibition of women in Church choirs!

    So yeah, patriarchy really does hurt men too… Ow.

  56. @zhinxy

    If it’s not about men being evil and women being good, why was your first response to “blame” the men in power while excusing the women in power?

  57. They aren’t cheerleading men’s death. They’re expressing solidarity, and saying they will be there while the men bleed, and they cannot be driven back to their homes because of sexual humiliation. You really can’t comprehend men and women working together against oppression, can you?

  58. @Shadow

    If there’s a 100 jobs, why don’t those jobs go to the 100 best qualified?

  59. NWO: It has everything to do with elite women who enjoyed castrated boys as playtoys

    What

    The

    Fuck?

    How prevalent was the use of Enuchs in China?

    Who had them castrated?

    It wasn’t the women. It was men, who castrated them because it meant they couldn’t have children, and so wouldn’t be trying to overthrow the gov’t.

    The lies, they keep on coming.

  60. @zhinxy

    If it’s not about men being evil and women being good, why was your first response to “blame” the men in power while excusing the women in power?

    No. Context. I was responding to a comment of yours that soley blamed the women and their desire to see castrated playthings. I didn’t raise the subject and say THE MEN ARE TO BLAME. I said “that had nothing to do with x” – Introducing the idea without making it the sole reason.

    Context. It’s a beautiful thing.

  61. zhinxy: Yes, I am acquaiinted with him; and some other odd ducks… look into, ‘Less Wrong’. I’m acquainted with the leader of that group too… makes Patri look reasonable.

    It wasn’t paypal money Patri used; it was inherited. He’s always been big in seasteading; he could afford to do nothing else; which most of his stripe of radical can’t. He was able to fund it better by getting Thiel’s help, but even without that, he’d taken control.

  62. Also re: eunuchs, wasnt one of the main reasons eunuchs were used in temples, and women’s palaces and staff, to keep women “pure”?

  63. NWO: This isn’t about genitals. It’s about language.

    In Russian, there is gender. All things have it. Some are masculine (like glasses). Some are feminine (like schools). Some, like cars, can be both (the word “automobil” is masculine, the word, “mashina” is feminine, as with “car” and “automobile” they are synonyms, but they have a different gender).

    Some, like coffee, or, thanks, or beer, are neuter.

    It’s not about having a dick, it’s about language.

    Capice?

    Probably not.

  64. It wasn’t the women. It was men, who castrated them because it meant they couldn’t have children, and so wouldn’t be trying to overthrow the gov’t.

    The lies, they keep on coming.

    Sure, pecunium, blame the men. But we all know the biblical Story of Daniel the Eunuch, and how he was left unscathed in the Lions Den, but as soon as he stepped into the “Room of Bored Concubines”… Well, it didn’t go very well for his nether regions.

    GIGGLY WOMEN! MUCH WORSE THAN LIONS!!!

  65. and I have to go. I’ve just been invited to the taping of the Daily Show, and I’ve got to get dressed for the weather, and make my way to the studio, so the odds of any more substance from me, for some little while, is slim.

  66. @NWO, they do. Those 25 are all of the best qualified too!! AA is to correct for stereotype based hiring, not to guarantee less qualified people cushy jobs!

  67. Phew, I finally caught up with the newest threads!
    While I think it’s awesome that the comment section is so dynamic, it’s always a bit difficult to get into the discussion (not complaining – I just hope it’s not too annoying if one tries to reply to something that has been said some pages ago :D).

    @Pecunium

    As to Gender: In Russian there are three.

    Masculine

    Feminine

    Neuter.

    The same is true in German. Not my opinion; true. You can look it up; the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica could explain it all to you.

    Three genders.

    Just like

    He
    She
    Zie

    It’s called language.

    I’m a bit confused – isn’t that also the case in the English language? The Russian оно and the German es correspond to the English it, from what I’ve been taught.
    So, English, too, has three genders!

    If I remember correctly, some germanic languages (like Danish, Swedish, Norwegian and Dutch) also have utrum/commune, which stand for both grammatical genders (masculine/feminine) combined (unlike neuter, which a different grammatical gender altogether), so I guess it could also be seen as a third gender.

    So yeah, this stuff is a lot more complex than NWO thinks – big surprise here!

  68. Pecunium – awesome! Have the fun!

  69. “Also re: eunuchs, wasnt one of the main reasons eunuchs were used in temples, and women’s palaces and staff, to keep women “pure”?”

    *ding ding ding!*

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