Manosphere dudes: Let’s set up fake feminist blogs to take down feminism!
On the internet, no one knows you're a dog disguised as a cat.
Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
Posted on January 3, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, antifeminst women, douchebaggery, hypocrisy, lying liars, manginas, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, PUA, racism. Bookmark the permalink. 1,130 Comments.
Isn’t the time a person can go without any food at all without dying less than a fortnight?
(I know it’s less than a week in terms of water.)
Not hundreds of days consecutively! He meant total!
Which is a totally meaningful and honest statement and the sort of thing someone would definitely keep track of.
It’s like how I’ve gone 300 days without sleeping… just not consecutively.
@ Lauralot – You know, that reminded me what his internet persona always makes me think of. I get the feeling that he’s aiming for sort of a super.misogynist Bruce Springsteen. Working class hero, the lady-hating edition.
Question: Even assuming all of this is true, who the fuck wants to be with an “alpha”? I mean, he’s describing at length all the sacrifices I have to make to land an “alpha”, but what’s the payoff? Sounds like a life of utter misery to me. If I were a woman at a crossroads, I would rather be a lawyercunt and take the slutty “Sex and the City” lifestyle, thankyouverymuch. At least there is some fun involved in that. Surely preferable to being a lackey to an asshole and raising a mini-asshole to boot.
It seems the amount of time the body can go without food is dependent on a bunch of variables such as body weight, health, etc.:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-long-can-a-person-sur
I’ve probably gone 12 days eating pie…
@Cassandra: Oh god, poor Bruce Springsteen.
Cassandrasays -I think it’s from 3-5 days without water, but people have survived months without food if they were hydrated?
It varies, but generally about 30 days, give or take. Even if you have plenty of “reserves”, the toxins produced when the organism breaks down body fat and muscle tissue on a massive scale can easily kill you.
“Honestly, I’m finding the discussion of “why MRAs can’t get laid” somewhat problematic. Obviously, a lot of the reason they can’t get laid is their obnoxious personalities– but there are a lot of people who can’t get laid who are perfectly awesome people (and a lot of obnoxious people who get laid all the time), and I think we’re skirting the Just World fallacy.”
I’m a 20-something who’s only been laid once. My problem is that I’m awkward as fuck and terrible at conversation. But I realize that the problem is me. If I went around blaming feminism for my troubles, you’d be justified in mocking me.
Tramps like us, baby we were born to beat up women in the streets!
(But Big Daddy Title IX feminists won’t let us, those bitches.)
@ Lauralot – You know, that reminded me what his internet persona always makes me think of. I get the feeling that he’s aiming for sort of a super.misogynist Bruce Springsteen. Working class hero, the lady-hating edition.
……
Born down in a milkmaid’s town
The first thing I heard was that I should bow down
End up like a man that’s found out too much
Spend half my life just rakin’ the muck
Born NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
Worked out a great inventive plan
To milk those cows like a big ole’ man
Used my brains and my own two hands
Ended up a wanted man!
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
x4
Went up North to bottle for Pepsi
Man said, son, it isn’t up to me
Said that Title IX had a plan
There’s a quota YOU’RE A MAN
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
x4
He still hasn’t answered my question about why he calls himself a slave if oppression isn’t real.
He definitely thinks oppression is real–only his oppression though.
Went up North to bottle for Pepsi
Man said, son, it isn’t up to me
Said that Title IX had a plan
There’s a quota YOU’RE A MAN
Laughing. So. Hard.
Zhinxy, I tip my hat at you.
Heh. TY. I tried to follow what chronology NWO has given us of his Origin Story, best as I could. ;)
I’m kind of scared to even try to do Dancing in the Dark. How old was Courtney Cox in that video?
CassandraSays – Old enough to know what she was doing!
…Srsly, I dont even wanna know….
And wearing such slutty clothes, too.
@ozy:
“who’ll pin you to the bed with their enlarged clitorises”
*Can’t breathe*
I worship you Ozy so that you never turn that deliciously evil mind on me! “Oh vengeful one, tell me who to smite and they shall be smoten!!”
@zhinxy
“Went up North to bottle for Pepsi
Man said, son, it isn’t up to me
Said that Title IX had a plan
There’s a quota YOU’RE A MAN”
*still can’t breathe… dies*
Oh you feminists!! I have learnt your dastardly plans too late!!!!!
Amused: (Ozy puts on PUA hat*) Because women can only be truly sexually satisfied with an alpha male and, worse, can only truly love an alpha. The wobbliest of warpigs still yearn within their heart of hearts and gina of ginas for the cocky smirk of an alpha man. Betas may settle, comforting themselves with their five-figure paychecks and bratty children, watching as their dreams of Prince Charming and Princess Hotass fade into nothingness. But in the quiet of the night, when the hamster finally rests on its wheel and midnight has caused its honesty, they cry themselves to sleep and know the sacrifices they have made.(Ozy takes off PUA hat)
I’m having way too much fun with this.
*It is large and fuzzy.
Wait, what’s the whole Pepsi thing about? He thinks they didn’t hire him because he’s a dude?
CassandraSays – As I recall, he claimed that he was specifically told by Pepsi that he was not hired because of affirmative action, despite being the one who deserved the job.
I vaguely remember his saying that he was denied a job due to his gender. How he knew that I don’t recall.
@CassandraSays
Yep. Actually, if I remember right, he claimed that the interviewer actually said that to his face, but I could be wrong.
Yes, and, from what I recall, he claims they told him as such directly.
bahahaha, four simultaneous posts. NWO, you are loved!!
Told him so, rather. Bleh.
Ozy – *It is large and fuzzy. –
Does that still do it? Do you need pieces of flair to peacock? I’m so lost anymore!
I haven’t even heard of Mystery in a while, come to think of it… I guess that’s… good?
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH – Well, hey, the Pepsi story is well attested! – Attested to in that people remember he told it to us as fact, not in that anybody backs up it’s veracity, but hey! It’s something!
*wakes up and pokes head out of cabbit hole* o_o
AMI! WELCOME! * Gives angel bunny cat carrotnip! *
NWO also knows somebody stole his invention too xD
A lot of MRAs seem CERTAIN when they don’t get a job, or don’t get success or praise they believe they deserved, that it’s cuz of AA or something that’s stolen their thunder. o: They just KNOW.
Of course, when we ask them HOW they know, they can’t rly explain it xD
Ahhhh Finland just scored o:
*hugs zhinxy* *nibbles on carrotnip*
The “not consecutively!” thing is hilarious XD Though, TBF to NWO, assuming he’s being legit, he was prolly estimating… (and chose a nice high round number)…
but I wonder what “non consecutively” means xD You’d think if it was within a period of time he’d say “From 1995-2000 there were 200 days I didn’t eat at all” or something like that… Instead he just says “you don’t know what it’s like to go 200 days without eating”… that statement implies some sort of consecutiveness… >_>
There’s about 23 hours a day I don’t eat… that would add up to a lot of time not eating…
If feminists were the female-supremacist haters these guys were so desperate to make them out to be, they should be able to find real quotes just by searching feminist sites.
I’ve seen plenty of fake feminists antis in comment sections. They always say something really transparent like “women are so much better than men!”
It’s a special “merit gland” only they possess. That’s why they’re so sure that things would be on merit if it weren’t for that dang affirmative actionquotamacallits!
(Quick, I think we can all agree that “merit”: is great, right? So now – Define “merit!” as it should apply in a quantifiable way to hiring, firing, or education opportunity! – It all starts to get pretty… fuzzy if you put it that way… )
Finland scores all the time, it has serious Game.
oh my god bunny cats eat carrotnip
*dead of cute*
I don’t know how things are run in Egypt, I only object to the idea that women’s labor is unpaid. It was something I read a lot about in feminist books and always found the idea strange and untrue. kladle, what you say is true. Husband and wife support each other in a traditional marriage. He makes the money and fixes things, and she takes care of kids and food and all. The difference is that he works and can support himself without a wife. If she doesn’t work, she can’t support herself without a husband. All I’m saying is that the husband generates the “outside resources” that will help both, and wife generates more of the “inside” ones, if I can say it like that. It’s not a bad arrangement, if women aren’t banned from universities or other opportunities and can make this choice freely.
I guess my view on this is that in case of divorce, alimony should be paid if the divorce was caused by some fault in the man. In a fair world where both sexes have equal rights and are given the same opportunities, the woman shouldn’t have alimony if she chooses to leave (without husband being at fault, like abuse), since she enters the marriage freely and exits it freely. But since we don’t want them to starve to death after that, we should have welfare for these and other people who want to get back on their feet.
Kate,
I object to women being used as slaves, I just don’t think they are necessarily slaves under the patriarchy. They don’t go to war, for example. They tend to be more protected. I can think of many ways in which women’s situation would be different if they really were slaves. And I’m not saying their situation is optimal (I wouldn’t go for it), but it’s not pure slavery. Or maybe it is, in the same sense that men’s situation is slavery because they have to go to military and sometimes get killed in wars.
Oh, and I realize that buying meals at restaurants, getting a nanny and homemade clothes would seemingly cost more, but I’m not entirely sure. You aren’t supporting a restaurant cook or a nanny, but a wife you do (in a traditional marriage that is…). But even if it costs less to have a wife do all these things, I think it goes both ways. Sorry for being stereotypical with gender roles here, but just to make an example, I will have to be: having your husband fix your shelves or sink is cheaper than hiring a worker for it. And renting your own apartment, moving your own bookcase, stuff like that.
Of course he chose a nice high round number: the only numbers that count are 1, 99, and 100!
“Yep. Actually, if I remember right, he claimed that the interviewer actually said that to his face, but I could be wrong.”
Oh hey there, things that corporate HR departments will fire you for.
Zhinxy: I dunno, but I’d steal Mystery’s hat and wear it all around the nightclub, if I happened to be in a nightclub with Mystery for some reason.
Holly – oh my god bunny cats eat carrotnip
*dead of cute*
….
I spend my whole day telilng kitties and doggies and guinea pigs how adoramuhbul they are. I gots murderous cute skillz XD
Zhinxy: I dunno, but I’d steal Mystery’s hat and wear it all around the nightclub, if I happened to be in a nightclub with Mystery for some reason.
…
Reminds me!
I think I know somebody who was actually gamed by Mystery, but I’m fuzzy on the story…
…I’d steal the hat too…
@Lauralot
“WE ARE THE 100!!!!!” *looks around* “Who are we fighting again?”
I’m amused by the OP btw and the idea that making fake blogs is this ground breaking thing, just cuz “false flag blogging” isn’t a term yet xD (I love how dramatic MRAs are all the time xD )
http://abandonmen.wordpress.com/
Unfortunately, somebody’s alrdy beaten them to the punch xD
and since this is NWOland
*woman’s voice from background* “GET HIM!!!!!!”
CassandraSays | January 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm
“Yep. Actually, if I remember right, he claimed that the interviewer actually said that to his face, but I could be wrong.”
Oh hey there, things that corporate HR departments will fire you for.
But HR departments are all filled with WIMMINZ, and that is why we control hiring and firing!
“Finland scores all the time, it has serious Game.”
Hey, Finland has Teemu Selanne, who I would be very happy to ride like a racehorse. OK so he’s not skinny, but look at the face! And the eyes!
Cue MRAL rant about elitist bitches. If he knows who Teemu Selanne is (actually Ami and I may be the only ones here who do).
I have his rookie card >_>
I love Teemu! :D
Is that the finnish flash? I know there’s a finnish flash, so I’m just assuming it’s this finnish guy. I’m that lazy.
I like Teemu b/c he’s an amazing player. Unfortunately for the MRAs, even though they’ve scored 39 goals in the NHL, they’ve never scored 40… so they’re just betas… XD HYPERGAMY!
Yus, he’s the Finnish Flash :3 He’s also a Duck (no longer Mighty :( )
We should figure out which sports names are alpha and which ones are betas and omegas…
like Ducks are pretty alpha to me…
Selanne’s the one who got me hooked on hockey in the first place. Finland also has the Koivus!! “Sako” is one of the gutsiest dude’s to play the game, even IF he was a Canadien!
that random apostrophe doesn’t exist! *jedi mind tricks it away*
I still think Rabbitohs are the most alpha of alpha sports team name though…
esp since nobody seems to be sure exactly WHERE it came from xD
Sharks are definitely beta…maybe they’re really small sharks.
Did any of you ever see Selanne play live? He really can move very very fast.
I have no problem with people finding Teemu Selanne hot, strawmral right there…
PS. I made the appt to neuter my baby kitties today. Cause for feminist celebration?
The Leafs are the omegaest of the omega. Sharks are all ALPHA. second only to the Bs
Are Rabbitohs like Spaghetti-Os, but made of rabbits?
Aww Saku :( I love him, and it’s too bad that his battles with cancer and playing in the dead puck era robbed what could have been a real superstar career :\ (I’m so happy that he survived cancer though… obv not for his stats, but b/c he did :) )
My favourite team names that cheat a little (because they use the town name to make it hilariously) are:
Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters
and
Manly Sea Eagles
:D
White d00dz have been telling white d00dz since the eighties that they didn’t get the job because of affirmative action. Beats hell out of telling them the truth.
I know the anecdotes never have any effect, but … (it’s better than arguing with an owl):
… but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do.
I just don’t get this. I don’t want kids and I don’t want to be married. But I got a college education, and have been able to travel around the world as a single woman, working and studying and generally doing as I pleased. How am I not benefiting? A hundred years ago I would be pretty much fucked, all but forced to get married and have babies. And if I wanted marriage and babies, that was always, ALWAYS an option. Most people I went to HS with are married. A lot of them have kids. (And some of them even kept their own names.)
And what is “feminine?” I have long hair and I wear makeup and cute little dresses and sparkly, pretty jewelry. I don’t wear pants much because I find them less comfortable. I own a lot of pink electronics and Hello Kitty stuff. I have a non-creepy doll collection. I like kittens. And yet, if you get into the “men do this, women do this; men think this way, women think this way” kind of stuff, I’m basically a man. If you gender behaviors and brain functions, I suddenly become a dude.
So I’m not sure what it means to “instinctively want to be feminine,” since I was always a tomboy growing up. But a tomboy with long hair who liked fashion and couldn’t stand babies or other kids (even my own age). My parents didn’t push that on me. I chose it based on what I liked. And other girls sometimes made fun of me for liking “non-girl” things. Or wearing boys sneakers (because there were no TMNT sneakers for girls).
I guess the thing to take away from this is that people don’t fit neatly into boxes labeled “boy” and “girl.” And people like what they like and do what they do, and it really isn’t as simple as saying that X is feminine but Y is masculine.
Not that the MRAs care. They just care that I’m an “8” and should have sex with them because, well, they want me to. And anything else is just … irrelevant.
xD I like how MRAL appears if you say his name XD
Ah, so it would only be a problem and FUCK ARROGANT ELITIST BITCHES if someone didn’t find Selanne hot?
Cause I have to say, Messier never really did it for me.