Manosphere dudes: Let’s set up fake feminist blogs to take down feminism!
On the internet, no one knows you're a dog disguised as a cat.
Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
Posted on January 3, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, antifeminst women, douchebaggery, hypocrisy, lying liars, manginas, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, PUA, racism. Bookmark the permalink. 1,130 Comments.
I don’t think his solution has advanced beyond “shaddup and make me a sandwich.”
I PUT ESTROGEN IN EVERY SANDWICH ANY WOMAN HAS EVER MADE A MAN IN HISTORY :D
The long game has prevailed! Look at the state of manhood now! XD
They asked me what they should do with the old math, and I said Pffffffffffffffffht, castrate it! And then they did. :D
Everyone always does what I want. :D
NWO, I had sex with a man I love! :D
And then I had sex with *another* dude the next month! :P
kladle | January 4, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Ami, I think NWO thinks that male pronouns are some secret weapon that drops your lady HP every time he uses them. Like you are some boss monster and he has to destroy your girliness before he can hit the glowing thing on your abdomen with his sword.
I rly think that’s true…. I know he reads everything I say, but I do believe him when he says just reading me hurts him… tho I dun think it’s how I write, as much as just ME and all the anger, frustration and everything he has dealing w/ me and building up in him >_>
And so he’s trying to hurt me the way that my existence on this forum hurts him xD The problem is he’s picking the wrong thing xD He’s picking what bugs HIM, rather than what bugs ME. (It’s also FAR too late for him to try to pull the “I GENDER YOU MALE” card, cuz he didn’t when I first met him, he didn’t from my writing, or my words, or my thinking, or my pictures, or my videos, etc xD it wasn’t until I said it… and he still automatically genders me male)
And you notice he only ever pulls it out when he’s fraying and is hoping that I get hurt and quit before he can’t take it. It’s like a last gasp thing… x3
And then later I went out to a bar, had several drinks, wore a short skirt, AND DIDN’T SLEEP WITH ANYONE! MWAHAHAHAHA! >:o
OH MY GAWD!
MOLLY!!
TURN IN YOUR FEMINIST CARD!
OH MOLLY!!!
I FORGOT!!! I GOT YOUR PACKAGE!!! :D
*HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG*
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HEADBAND BOW! :D It’s adorable! :D
Tho it’s black so I need to find something fitting to wear it w/ but I love it! :D
<3
*HUG HUG HUG*
It's so sweet :D
Also thanks for all the shopping bags you padded the present with XD
I wonder if any of our MRA trolls would ever send a present to another? o:
You got it!?! YAAAAYYY!! *hippo hugs* :D I was afraid it would get smooshed in the mail or something! XD
It was cute xD I was pulling shopping bag out of shopping bag out of it and I’m like “did she just give me hundreds of shopping bags?!?” xD
*shopping bag after shopping bag
LMFAO! Here I was just thinking, “It’s such a long way to Canada! I better pack this really well!” XD
I realize this is way upthread, but
NWO, you do realize that the practice of castrating boys to preserve their voices was pretty much over by the mid-18th century, right? Look it up in your encyclopedia if you don’t believe me! (Though the Vatican continued to employ castrati through the 19th century – there’s a very creepy recording of one of the last castrati, made in 1911 or something like that.) Is it still too soon to sing Giulio Cesare, or can we enjoy some awesome music even though it depended in its time on a very cruel and destructive practice?
Never mind. Shaenon, be sure to add to the Book of Learning that castrati were created by 18th century feminists just so I could be mildly amused by seeing Conservatives enjoy stories about lesbian love triangles. Also that operas and plays are totally the same thing.
NWO, my darling little man: Five pair of jeans? Three long johns, and three jackets? A couple of dozen sets of underwear?
Jesus told the guy who had two garments to give the extra one to the poor. You are slacking.
One of the statements you quoted from me Molly is real btw xD
HEY LOOK NWO, TWO PPL DIDN’T USE <!– sign smileys! xD
Refresh refresh refresh xD
random: Hazardous duty pay is, limited to being in a combat zone. I forget if EOD guys who actually deal with things stateside get it, in those months they have a bomb.
The rule is that one day in a combat zone = one month hazardous duty pay. Pilots who fly into it, also get it, even if it’s for ten minutes. That ones kind of a bullshit justification, esp. as they get credit to Air Medals that way, and Air Medals are promotion points.
NWO, my charming little flower: If she lied about her credentials, she deserves to be cashiered. But it doesn’t prove what you think it does. It shows that women aren’t getting jobs/promotions just because they are women. They are having to compete with men. It also shows that when they are caught they get punished.
It also isn’t being covered up because she’s a woman, it’s being covered up because it embarrasses the Army, just as when, in 2005 (IIRC) the Sergeant Major of the Army (a man) was quietly cashiered for adultery, and sexually harassing his subordinates.
People, be they male, or female, make mistakes. Organisations cover it up.
@KristinMH he also complained about evil castrating Chinese women apparently. xD That explains his fear of me.
It also shows that when they are caught they get punished.
That’s always the weirdest thing about the MRA trolls and NWO esp, when they quote articles like “woman found guilty of filing a false police report” and go AHA! HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS HUH!? SOCIETY JUST LOOKS THE OTHER WAY WHEN WOMEN LIE ABOUT RAPE!
except a) but… your anecdotal evidence only gives credence that they’re being caught and b) you can’t know of it if the media didn’t report it…
xD
NWO, Poopsie-woopsie: Where does the Constitution, as written (The Original: without any of those pesky amendments that got added later, like the 9th and 10th) forbid the Gov’t from borrowing money?
It also isn’t being covered up because she’s a woman, it’s being covered up because it embarrasses the Army, just as when, in 2005 (IIRC) the Sergeant Major of the Army (a man) was quietly cashiered for adultery, and sexually harassing his subordinates.
People, be they male, or female, make mistakes. Organisations cover it up.
It’s weird that a paranoid conspiracy theorist like NWO doesn’t get that organizations and the military cover stuff up and bad behaviour. o_O He honestly believes that government and military cover ups ONLY happen to women and ONLY b/c they’re women?
@NWO: If you ever wonder why we think you’re stupid (beyond everything else you’ve posted): you cannot understand when someone is joking!
in NWOrld, government and military conspiracies are apparently only half as sinister, shadowy and etc than other conspiracy theories o:
Ami: NWO will also forget that I ever said that any woman who would castrate a boy is evil, and that the Sergeant Major should be punished.
So he will be bearing false witness against me.
This is his idea of being a good Christian.
Ithiliana, to be fair, to NWO, the entire world is a big cruel joke on him, so how could he tell? xD
NWO believes that it doesn’t matter what you do b/c Jesus forgave all our sins, so therefore it doesn’t matter if he’s good or bad, he’ll go to heaven. xD
That’s kinda similar to how I believe (IF I believe in Christian heaven, I did grow up in Catholic school as a Christian but it’s iffy exactly where I stand :3 ) b/c well I’m Ami xD but for me I still believe in being good to ppl, helping ppl and trying to do what’s right, while for NWO it means “WOO HOO I CAN BE AS MEAN AND HURTFUL TO PEOPLE AS I WANT” xD
NWO is only a Christian until you’re a woman/feminist/gay/bi/trans/genderqueer/anything else that he doesn’t like! :D
These days many opera companies find falsettists and counter tenors for the lower castrati roles in baroque operas – certainly in my part of the world, productions of say, Giulio Cesare (Händel) or L’incoronazione di Poppea (Monteverdi) will usually have some adult male singers with testicles intact singing high in the treble stave. True male sopranos are very rare but they do occur – I’ve sung with two, one of whom is carving out an international career. (Female tenors are less well-catered for, historically; when I first sang in a combined university student choir of about 200 voices, there were three female tenors, one of whom could accomodate bass parts. o_O)
Like to me, growing up, Jesus was kinda like a superhero, like Supergirl! Or Miss Martian, and I wanna save ppl and be nice to ppl and help ppl too :D While to NWO He’s a “get out of jail free” card >_>
@NWO: The answer to your question is…………………………………….42!
NWO likes to add when ppl point out “let he who is without sin” that Jesus also told her to not sin again….
so what’s his excuse? xD
Every day he wakes up, gets on the computer and spends his time trying to hurt as many ppl as possible. Every. Day. xD
NWO: Because men have never faked credentials or records or anything like that–only women do, amirite?
oh now you guys have done it, you know NWO is gonna take all that fake man hate and be all “I KNEW IT SEEEEE SEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!111″
but I really do want to see his answer to my war question. Because I’m sick and tired of that argument. Some women try to fight in combat and are shot down for being weak or for demanding easier physical requirements or some shit. Pecunium was also saying some women do but aren’t counted in history I think?
WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO ABOUT WAR NWO????
This is awesome. Now we know Brandon’s kryptonite is not talking about himself, and NWO’s kryptonite is emoticons. XD Now all we have to do is find out what Meller’s kryptonite is, and we’ll be SET! XP
FEMINISTS WIN AGAIN!!!!!!! :) :)
@ithilianna: Women are the only ones who get caught faking credentials, because they’re not smart enough to remember to use ALL CAPS. :D
Quackers | January 4, 2012 at 11:21 pm
oh now you guys have done it, you know NWO is gonna take all that fake man hate and be all “I KNEW IT SEEEEE SEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!111″
But he can’t xD Remember, he said he can’t READ A THING ANYBODY SAYS WITH AN EMOTICON IN IT xD
HE JUST CAN’T READ IT!
It’s ILLEGIBLE! xD
@Quakers: He intends to beat women in the streets until they stop making men fight wars for them, of course! XD
Meller’s Kryptonite is when you bug him about his human-crush on me xD (I say human b/c we know I can’t ever compare to a doll)
NWO, Poopsie-woopsie: Where does the Constitution, as written (The Original: without any of those pesky amendments that got added later, like the 9th and 10th) forbid the Gov’t from borrowing money?
On the contrary, the Constitution specifically gives Congress the power to “borrow money on the credit of the United States”–in the original Article I, I believe.
When people talk about the supposed anti-banking, anti-finance ideas of the Founding Fathers, I always wonder: have these people never heard of Alexander Hamilton? You know, the guy who wrote the bulk of the Federalist Papers, which argued for ratification of the Constitution? Because he was kind of important, and very much in favor of a central bank.
@Bee
I think Meller’s kryptonite would be hearing lurid details about women’s sexuality. Whether or not it will drive him away, it’ll certainly turn him into a quivering ball of prudish disgust!
MBZ should just have a literotica feed at all times xD
@Ami
ah yes XD I forgot ^___~ NWO ^_^ SUCKS OwO <.< =_=
@Laura
that's asshole logic for you.
Are there any women who actually started wars though? anyone know? (non troll answers only plz ^___^)
Pecunium – The christianyist christian! Also, glad you had a good time! Oh, and no need to talk of the One That Is Less Wrong at the moment, but so thanks! Enjoy the sweetie cuddling. I might take you up on it later if I end up collecting stories about him, (*which I very well might*) but no rush! XD
NWO – Okay, you read up on “my anarchist thingy” and even we admit a monopoly of force would form.
Okay, no, we don’t. That’s a very common (And often very well made, and made by very smart people who are not warm to statism) critique of anarchism, but it’s not one that ANARCHISTS “admit” – Because that would be totally stupid and illogical and self-defeating of us, now wouldn’t it?
Okay, it doesn’t answer the question of why you’ve insisted I want more government, and why you said I supported the status quo, or anything else you’ve thrown at me on the matter.
But you DO admit I’m an anarchist now, right? And therefore, as a constitutionalist, you admit that BY DEFINITION you want more big daddy than me, right?
Now there’s nothing wrong with being a constitutionalist, but you’re not the least statist guy in the room, are you? Both I and blackbloc are regular anarchist feministy commenters right on this site. (Of different strains, but anarchists. You admit this, right? )
(Also, without a federal reserve, the state and monopoly can’t become dangerous and powerful… But in anarchy, without a federal reserve by definition, it inevitably will? ;-) )
So just help me out here, what do you think I believe, and what is the status quo I support, and what is my utopia that only the state can give me, or were you just totally talking out of your ass, and you know it?
And also XD XD XD XD XD…
And also, thankyou for telling me about the suitcase, because it allowed me to add a verse to your awesome Springsteen-Esque song…
http://manboobz.com/2012/01/03/manosphere-dudes-lets-set-up-fake-feminist-blogs-to-take-down-feminism/comment-page-3/#comment-106891
Which now goes – (Old verses in not-bold, new verse in BOLD!)
Born down in a milkmaid’s town
The first thing I heard was that I should bow down
End up like a man that’s found out too much
Spend half my life just rakin’ the muck
Born NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
Worked out a great inventive plan
To milk those cows like a big ole’ man
Used my brains and my own two hands
Ended up a wanted man!
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
x4
Went up North to bottle for Pepsi
Man said, son, it isn’t up to me
Said that Title IX had a plan
There’s a quota YOU’RE A MAN
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
x4
PACKED MY SUITCASE AND GOT READY TO GO
YES MY SUITCASE THAT HELD ALL MY CLOTHES
I STILL GOT IT NOW, THOUGH I AINT NO SLOB
ALL I CAN AFFORD EVEN THOUGH I GOT A JOB
BORN NEW WORLD ORDER SLAVE
x4
…This seriously is the greatest fucking thread ever.
:D
IT IS THE GREATEST THREAD EVAR! :D
We’re dancing on the corpse of NWO xD Or the abandoned armor of him…
YAY ZHINXY PWNS NWO AGAIN XD (i honestly think that’s why he avoids me, he knows I open him up to being taken apart b/c he doesn’t have confidence in his knowledge or ability to hold his worldview up to scrutiny)
it’s at 1,096 comments too…w00t!!!
XDDD
~______~
^__________________________________^
OwO
“If ya ever wonder why men in general think women are stupid? You’ve all managed to devolve down to star wars novels as currency.”
Too kneejerk, NWOS. The only test of the suitability of any object or commodity as currency is that all parties to the money transaction agree that the object or commodity has value and is acceptable for such use. Of course, some things work better as currency than others: it wouldn’t be smart to try to use fresh fruit as currency because fresh fruit doesn’t stay fresh. But Star Wars novels? I’ve heard worse ideas. They’re collectible, like old coins; they’re made out of paper, like paper money. They’re not that hard to transport. In quantity they’d get heavy, but then think or the weight of gold. If comic books (“graphic novels”) can serve as a store of value, why not Star Wars books?
bekabot | January 4, 2012 at 11:45 pm
“If ya ever wonder why men in general think women are stupid? You’ve all managed to devolve down to star wars novels as currency.”
Too kneejerk, NWOS. The only test of the suitability of any object or commodity as currency is that all parties to the money transaction agree that the object or commodity has value and is acceptable for such use. Of course, some things work better as currency than others: it wouldn’t be smart to try to use fresh fruit as currency because fresh fruit doesn’t stay fresh. But Star Wars novels? I’ve heard worse ideas. They’re collectible, like old coins; they’re made out of paper, like paper money. They’re not that hard to transport. In quantity they’d get heavy, but then think or the weight of gold. If comic books (“graphic novels”) can serve as a store of value, why not Star Wars books?
That’s what he’s hoping actually. XD He used to complain that he can’t use his star wars novels for nething, that he can’t sell them for anywhere near the value that he bought them for, and that he won’t donate them b/c…. well… he’s against giving things away for free xD
*finally reaches end of thread, then it bounces up to 1100*
This is the little thread that could. You all deserve a BIG SHINY MEDAL!
XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
@Ami
Did he actually say he was against giving things away for free? yet he vilifies women for supposedly not giving to men’s charities?
*facepalm*
Asshole. Thy name is NWOslave.
I can’t remember if he actually said that, or if he was just against it and made an excuse xD I know ppl kept telling him that if he’s so angry about the big boxes of books he had, he should just donate them, but he wouldn’t, he just complained that he can’t resell them…
OH RIGHT, I think he claimed that nobody would take them..
Hasn’t evo psych foretold that the currency of the future will be bottlecaps?
Or chopped off penises…
A transphobic radfem once predicted that in the future, trans women would harvest the dead bodies of cis women for uteruses… so maybe that’ll be the new currency xD
http://ami-rants.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-happens-when-transphobes.html
proof :D
@Ami
“A transphobic radfem once predicted that in the future, trans women would harvest the dead bodies of cis women for uteruses… so maybe that’ll be the new currency xD”
o.O.. well that’s… uhm welll… o.O
Shadow – Hasn’t evo psych foretold that the currency of the future will be bottlecaps?
Bottlecaps and pussy! XD (Whether bottlecaps will be redeemable for pussy, we know not, thought there are persistent urban legend rumors you can do this right now with rolling rock, if you just know where to redeem them XD )
Shadow – o.O.. well that’s… uhm welll… o.O
You really can’t make radfems up. Or MRAs.
The irony is in how alike they both are. Their emotionally charged writing is practically interchangeable.
True, but I always expect them to save their best stuff for men! MRAs save their “best” shit for women, I demand equality!!
many MRAs and transphobic/anti-sexwork/etc Radfems seem very similar in their attitudes… who they hate, what they hate, the behaviours they hate… and both seem to have this very innate/static idea of gender differences, they just have different explanations… the rly “MEN SUCK TO THEIR CORE” radfems believe in socialization that is SO base, SO early, SO unchangeable that it might as well be genetic, while MRAs like NWO believe in the exact same things just that it’s genetic…
Honestly, I think NWO would like M Andrea and her friends.. a lot of what NWO believes, they believe… they just hate each other’s gender xD (and they blame the other gender for the stuff they hate)
For example, MtF transitioning is brainwashing by feminism vs MtF transitioning is brainwashing by the patriarchy xD
They both agree we’re brainwashed though, and it’s mutilation and that we are our birth assigned gender. xD They just can’t agree on why or who’s to blame (MRAs like the ones on The Spearhead trans article believe it’s a feminist experiment to prove the fluidity of gender, while the transphobic radfems believe that it’s a patriarchy experiment to ENFORCE the binary of genders) xD
But they both agree we’re terrible, pitiable, deluded, ideology destroying freaks xD
What’s funny is how they also seem to think the other “side” LOVES trans ppl.
My very existence sends ripples through the mano and femi spheres! xD
Sometimes I’m shocked they don’t put aside their differences and just agree to work together and get rid of sex workers, trans ppl, “sluts” etc etc and THEN they can fight each other in one final, glorious, bloody gender war with a nice, simple, clean battlefield xD
both their theories sound like bullshit and I think both sides simplify gender way too much like NWO did in this very thread. You imply that there is a third gender or there is more to gender than this naturalistic fallacy BS and they flip out.
I’m so curious to know what will become of gender in say, 20 years from now. I will admit I’m still pretty cis myself in terms of how I understand these things though :<
I think NWO was trying to imitate me in asking ppl to tell him how many genders there are b/c NWO believed that nobody here COULD answer it b/c he hasn’t thought out his worldview very well and he has trouble explaining it (and is scared of having that exposed), so therefore everybody else does too xD And as I said, he projects… he thinks the thing that hurts me most must be the thing that bugs him most, and like that, he thinks the issue that makes no sense to him must be impossible for everybody else to explain too xD
“Jesus F. Christ, it’s like arguing with a parrot!”
Come on now, be fair. Parrots occasionally say intelligent things, even though it’s only by accident.
Holy crap, I can’t believe NWO actually shared his political beliefs, in fairly straightforward language, without changing the subject or just going BLARGH YOU BLACK JEWISH FEMINIST FLOURIDE-INJECTED COMMUNIST BIG-DADDY-LOVING PRINCESS LADY-PEOPLE CAN’T HANDLE MY AMAZING SECRET TRUTHS BLARRRGH
And it turns out, after all these months… he’s Ron Paul. How anticlimactic.
Ami: NWO will also forget that I ever said that any woman who would castrate a boy is evil, and that the Sergeant Major should be punished.
As he’s made clear in the past, unless we use our feminist powers to summon the Bacchae from the Underworld and make them tear the offending woman to shreds for NWO’s amusement (I am given to believe he will giggle), we don’t really think she did anything wrong and in fact support her wholeheartedly. This includes women who a) have already been dead for centuries and b) only exist in NWO’s head.
Emma: when you marry, you swear to take care of your spouse of life, not until you meet someone younger and hotter. How you view pushing someone to quit work to raise your kids and take care of your home then abandoning them in poverty as “fair” is beyond my understanding.
“I AM doing my own research. But it can only get me that far.”
True. On the other hand, there are dozens of feminists websites you could find in 30 seconds of googling than are here to educate people. This one hasn’t this goal. If people provide you with link or books titles, say thank you, if they don’t or are clearly annoyed stop asking.
“And I see someone took issue with me saying that putting out on demand is being nice and caring. Damn right, it is! It’s about making your partner happy. And if you’re with the right partner, you won’t have to worry about them being demanding jerks. Sex is rather important in a relationship, so refusing it too often indeed means you are not nice and caring”
Whether or not you don’t mind “putting up on demand” is not an issue. You judging as uncaring someone who would not makes you a terrible person.
What you describe comes back, once more, to a relation that is, if not one of a master and slave, at least of a master and a servant. The servant can leave the master, she’s no prisoner. (though maybe she can’t, for economical reasons. That you’re think are normal and fair) But as long as the relation continue, only the master’s desires matters. The choice of the servant is in choosing the right master, the one who want demand sex too often and maybe won’t hit her too much.
In the meantime, in 2012, choosing the right partner is also about choosing someone capable to hear “not tonight”, “I don’t feel like doing that” “I’m busy” or any other reason.
Manboobzers, a little poll: Emma the emo troll, stupid or evil?
Hugh. I thought/ I had hit refresh, but apparently not, which is why I’m 5 pages late.
Woah, I have reached the end of the thread.
Well, for now.
I have nothing to add.