@Caraz: I actually don’t think I am a douchebag. I do think feminists think I am one…which is actually funny.

@Lauralot: Apparently no one told you to treat everyone with some basic civility.

New Resolution: Learn the definition of irony.

@Lauralot: Really? Because I don’t act hostile towards half the population like you do.

You can’t make an organization hostile towards men then mock them because most of them don’t want to be part of your organization.

yeah, brandon, we remember the dumb things you say. feminism isn’t hostile to men just because some feminists are hostile to selfish narcissists like you. don’t conflate your massive yet easily bruised ego with reality.

Honestly, I just want better trolls. I want you to reach your potential Brandon, if being annoying is what you really really want, then you need to put a bit more effort into it.

Hell, I’d say JTK is more annoying than you and that’s mostly because despite his few and far between posts he tends to talk at people rather than to them and fails the basic concept of his own bloody MGTOW movement.

So really, Brandon, less may be more.

‘feminism is hostile to men’ is exactly the sort of childish rhetoric dudes who are upset that feminism isnt about them stomp their feet and scream about.

were already on top of the pyramid, deal with it.

Boston is feminist heaven? I would have put my money on an obscure coffee shop in NYC…

Guys, don’t do that.

fucking lol. brandon, the king of screaming ad hominem at the first opportunity, makes a devastatingly shallow ad populam argument to defend his warped view of reality.

“most feminists are the people who have the largest stake in feminism’ obvious things that brandon thinks proves something.

most people who eat at oyster bars aren’t kosher jews. does this mean oyster bars are hostile to people who keep kosher, too.

@Sharculese: There are lots of political and social organizations that aren’t all about me (e.g the NAACP). But I don’t have animosity towards them…just feminists.

@Sharculese: There are lots of political and social organizations that aren’t all about me (e.g the NAACP). But I don’t have animosity towards them…just feminists.

so… you’re only a childish narcissist some of the time? congratulations?

i don’t get it, do you want an attaboy for this or something?

On the subway today, a man came to me to start a conversation. He was making small talk, this lonely man, talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head began to hurt from his banality. I almost didn’t notice it happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, but I couldn’t help laughing.

That about sums it up.

@chocomintlipwax: I don’t hate half the population. You only see my animosity towards feminists. Basically you are experiencing “brandon confirmation bias”. ;)

In about a hour I am going out with Ashley and a few of her girlfriends. They are all extremely nice and intelligent women. I enjoy their company and I value their friendship. But by your logic…I hate them because they have a vagina.

Yes, that’s exactly my point. You don’t seem to think NAACP is hostile, but you do think feminists are hostile and the reason for this is…*shrug*?

(Sings)

Feelings, nothing more than feelings…

Let’s hope none of Ashley’s girlfriends say “Hand me a napkin” to Brandon tonight, or he’ll hate that one forever for being so entitled and bossy.

Guys, don’t do that.

I’m guessing it’s because feminists here are mean to Brandon therefore he thinks feminists are hostile to men.

But if Brandon went to any group that specializes in civil rights and equality for any minority group, whether based around sexuality, race, gender ect. they’d all have very few nice things to say about him.

wait, now that i think about it that was a combination ‘my black friend’/’gone clubbing’ for double cop out bonus points

No, no, he’s “gone clubbing with his lesbian black friend who is Jewish and who works for the NAACP, and she thinks he’s awesome and that we’re all a bunch of man-haters.”

I do empathize with Brandon’s hostility to feminism, it evokes a (probably unjustified) knee-jerk negative reaction in me too. I’m really not sure why- actually, it’s weird. I don’t have the same response to any other civil rights movement. Maybe it’s because I see women every day and most of them have better lives than I do- or at least, that’s how I perceive it, or used to perceive it, or whatever. I’m trying to be more open-minded.

My weird sore spot has led me on a goose chase, trolling this guy Derek Warwick, then trolling Feministing, then trolling Hugo, then trolling Manboobz. I sincerely hope this is where it ends.

This stretches back like 3 years, by the way.

Whales! Save the whales from exploitative fishing!

The thing is, MRAL, that doesn’t make any sense. You come here nearly every day and talk to feminists, mostly in a fairly positive way recently. Where’s the disconnect between feminism the movement and feminists the people?

She’s an unemployed single mother.

Fuck me, is this entire thread now about that narcissistic waste of space?

Since he didn’t even make the troll shortlist, isn’t this blatantly off-topic, and therefore ripe for a stern reprimand if not an outright banning?

I really don’t see how this is any different from that troll who kept steering everything towards a discussion of Islam before zie was told in no uncertain terms to stop.

Well, I’m not sure this is really a feminist space, it’s more a mocking fucking idiots space. Plus the people who post here are, for the most part, pretty super moderate. The founder of a men’s issues blog. Etc.

And anyway I’m not saying feminism is actually bad, just that it has and still sort of does evoke a really, really negative reaction. I’m just speculating on reasons.

My favorite thing about Zarat was how low-grade his technocratic utopia was. Most of the other MRAs are shooting for fully functional and programmable sexbots; his big plan is to replace women with dating sim games. Which already exist.

Still, when push came to shove, I had to vote for Meller. Much as I enjoy NWO and am honored to maintain his book, Meller really went for broke in the last couple of months with:

a) believing in auras

b) blaming female scientists for men’s failure to invent ESP and mind-melding with animals

c) everything, absolutely everything, about the doll collection.

I’ve got a little tear in my eye now.

@ MRAL – The issue may be your own internal defintion of “feminist”. I’d say that this is a pretty openly feminist space. Almost all regular commenters are feminists, a lot of us also comment at Feministe etc, even the dudes are mostly feminists. It’s just that the tone is more fun and silly and less serious, because mockery is the purpose of the blog. It’s still fundamentally a feminist space, though, and I wouldn’t say most commenters here are any more “moderate” than average. It’s not a feminist-lite space in the same way as, say, Jezebel.

Maybe you’re just not used to seeing feminists talking among themselves, I dunno. This space is much closer to a random conversation among friends who’re all feminists than most other places – if you actually get a bunch of feminists sitting around a table, this space is more or less what that usually looks and sounds like.

(But with much more profanity if it’s in the UK, or at my house.)

“My favorite thing about Zarat was how low-grade his technocratic utopia was. Most of the other MRAs are shooting for fully functional and programmable sexbots; his big plan is to replace women with dating sim games. Which already exist.”

So basically he just has to learn to read Japanese and he’s all set? Somehow I doubt he’ll try that tack, he seems too lazy.

It seems more like a cooking show for people who hate food in general and are secretely engaged in a plot to get us all to move to soylent green instead.

I think a lot of the commentariat here are representative of sex-positive and progressive feminism (derided as “fun-feminism” — there’s a problem with having fun?) which has some influence on tone; if you want po-faced, not-fun feminism there are other blogs for that — for example, the name of Twisty Faster’s suggests a quite different ethos or emphasis to the feminist topics under discussion.

I voted for NWO because he’s the most consistently loathsome without having DKM’s unusual literary style. True, I mostly just skim his posts unless he’s directly addressing me, but I do feel he’s done the most to earn this high honour.

Even Twisty is funny though, in a mean sort of way. I can’t think of a feminist I’d describe as totally humorless off the top of my head other than Heart. And she’s funny in the same way Meller is, imo – she’s horrible, and everything she writes about trans women will make you feel stabby, but the combination of peace and love and woo with virulent hatred is funny in a sick sort of way.

AN angel, I mean.