“Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood,” and other observations on love and life from Chateau Heartiste
Today, a GUEST POST from Catherine! Thanks, Catherine! And the rest of you, enjoy!
Over on Chateau Heartiste, the (He)artist(e) Formerly Known As Roissy devoted a recent post to the conundrum of handsome men coupled with ugly women. It’s essentially an open thread for the denigration of women who don’t live up to Roissy’s porntastic standards (17 to 20 years old with a BMI of about 18 *and* a D cup, and related WTF?! attributes), as well as ragging on those awful beta manginas who are punching below their weight – or, to quote Heartiste himself, are “polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.”
I was participating in a mobile conference which included question and answer periods, and I noticed an odd couple standing to my side. He was youngish and good-looking — most women would agree on his physical attractiveness — and his wife was a snout-nosed, inbred-looking, stringy-haired, big fat pig dressed in sweatshirt and ill-fitting jeans. In other words, the typical American woman. I assumed they were married because I saw their rings and she had her hand on a stroller with an infant tucked away in it.
He’s just getting started.
What abomination is this! I thought. But then the reason became crystal clear after only a few moments watching and listening to them interact.
Speaker: Any questions?
Big Fat Pig: [nudging her hubby with her elbow] Honey, remember…
Handsome Husbandry: [tentatively raising his index and middle finger, and haltingly talking] I have a question… I have a…
So obviously the young good-looking man is totally under the thumb of the big fat evil feminist woman, who has sucked out his brains and reduced him to a quivering lump of hesitation and uncertainty!
As he asked his question, he kept looking over at his wife — in fact, staring at his wife more than the speaker, although he was ostensibly addressing the speaker. One would be forgiven for having the impression that he was seeking constant real-time assurance from his wife that his question was acceptable for public discourse. Nervously shifting from one foot to the other, leaning into his wife, gazing downward when the speaker responded to him, his body language was so beta it was painful to watch. No, it was repulsive to behold, almost as repulsive as the visual effrontery of his wife’s blubbery carcass.
So, sniveling, indecisive beta manginas are repulsive… but not as repulsive as a corpulent woman! Gotcha, Roissy.
After getting in a few more digs at the contemptuous, unsympathetic wife, Roissy sets forth his views on various types of couples. First, the kinds of couples that should be allowed to exist:
Handsome man with beautiful woman
All is right in the world. You infer the man has alpha characteristics to complement his good looks, and he has cashed that in for a hot babe. …
Ugly man with ugly woman
All is right, if depressing, in the world. You infer the ugly man has beta or even omega characteristics, and that an ugly woman was the best he could do. You assume the ugly woman resents him for having to settle, but knows she has no other options. Love between them is less about passion than it is about task delegation and avoidance of suicidal loneliness.
All is well in the world of alpha males with hot babes, but those in ugly people combos need to find some highly diverting hobbies to keep from offing themselves.
Now Roissy turns his attention to two apparent mismatches, and delineates his usual double standards:
Ugly man with beautiful woman
Wow, he is shooting out of his league! But then, thinking on it a bit, you recall that you saw quite a few couples like this mismatched pair during the week. It’s less rare than popularly imagined. You may ask yourself “What does she see in him?”, and from that you infer the ugly man has compensating alpha attributes to snag such a hottie — maybe he’s wealthy, or slick, or funny, or a dominating asshole, or some combination of each. You assume this ugly man has options to be able to choose a beauty for a girlfriend.
Moral: ugly men are permitted to have counter-balancing attributes! Can you guess what is coming next?
Handsome man with ugly woman
Whoa, what is he thinking?! An uncommon sight, (occurrence less frequent than its polar opposite), you presume the handsome man has some debilitating personality flaw — maybe social awkwardness, or shyness, or micropenis — that prevents him from fornicating with his true potential. Unlike the mirror image couple of the ugly man with the beautiful woman, you do not give the ugly woman the benefit of the doubt in assessing why she was able to catch a handsome man. You simply conclude, reasonably, that the handsome man is not the alpha male on the inside that he looks like on the outside, and therefore the ugly woman is not really dating out of her league. There must be something wrong with him, you think.
Women have no value beyond their looks, so the pitiful man dating someone wretchedly below Roissy’s artificial standards must likewise be sub-standard, in some way invisible to us, to have abased himself so humiliatingly.
Having drawn these pictures, Roissy rounds out the post with a sermon on female ugliness, which is to be universally shunned:
There is an instinctive, deeply primitive understanding chugging away behind the prefrontal cortex in every one of us that women sexually respond to a suite of male attractiveness traits, of which looks are only one desirable male quality. It is therefore not inconceivable to most non-brainwashed observers that an ugly man might have other characteristics that appeal to a beautiful woman on his arms, or that a handsome man might be crippled with weakness and self-doubt that constrains his ability to attract no better than a big fat pigwoman.
And we’re back to the disparaging references to pigs. Why, oh why does Roissy hate pork so? (That he detests women is more or less expected.)
In the mismatched couple I witnessed, it was clear that whatever good will or tokens of desire that the handsome man had inspired in his pigwoman were completely squandered by his beta behavior. It was easy to see by her loathsome demeanor that his looks no longer held — if they ever did beyond the first couple of dates — any sway over her feelings for him. But being the big fat pigwoman she is, she knew she could not do better.
And that is why the generational increase in human beauty is a slow, painstaking process, punctuated by tragic reversals to a sloping brow norm (see: Appalachia, Detroit). Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.
What the hell was that? I’ll quote it again: “Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.” Oh, the huge manatee! Shrink in terror from the impending doom to be brought about by porcine-human hybrids!
Naturally such hyperbole is a cue for some predictable misogyny in the comments, such as the following from regular tool Tyrone:
That’s why its good to be older to get a good sense for how a woman will age. There are loads of women who look hot when young but turn into cattle as they age. Mom is usually a good bench mark. If you’d do her Mom, you’re probably safe. Check out how Ginger Lynn looks like nowadays. You’d never recognize her from her porn days.
A view right in line with Roissy’s famed dating value regimen that women lose value once they’re older than, say, 29; and Tyrone follows it up with some white supremacism:
White people won’t survive without more kids. Smart white men need to breed more in our country- with white women.
What, you might ask, about women with great bodies but unappealing faces? One Anonymous coward urges his brethren to go for it :
[O]ne of my biggest regrets was not doing a girl who had the hottest body around but an ugly face. Temporarily of course.
But for fuck’s sake don’t marry them. Right, tenderman100?
Some years ago, before I was married for the first time (twice married, twice divorced) I was banging this babe. Amazing body. Amazing tits. But a kind of a bucktoothed face. When I first met her, I thought, wow what amazing tits…yeah she’s kinda ugly but she’s friendly and I just have to see those tat tas. Well, not only did I see them, we banged for a few months. She was incredible in bed, highly orgasmic, very flexible (did ballet). Haven’t seen her in decades, but if she is a fat cow, I wouldn’t be surprised. Yeah, she was ugly but she pounded like a pro. So it isn’t always what it seems. Then again, I would never have married her.
If not marriage, then what about a long-term relationship? Over again to Tyrone:
A good woman who has reparable shortcomings is still a good option for an LTR. Fugly is a whole different animal.
But if you marry one of them, Tyrone adds, make sure you have a contingency plan!
My wife knows if she ever lets herself go, talks about divorce, whatever that pisses me off enough to leave, I will simply disappear into the night. No arguments or emotions, it will be a complete coup de main. There won’t be anyone around to serve papers to. I’ll be overseas in an undisclosed location screwing LBFMs.
In case you don’t already know, LBFM is short for Little Brown Fucking Machines, a term of art to refer to Asian women (frequently underage) sought out by sex tourists — which should be sufficient to outline Tyrone’s sophisticated moral principles. He continues:
I say this with no emotion or bravado, just let her know its a fact that she must deal with. Marriage is like defense policy, the best defense is a good offense. Strike first, strike to kill. Identify a location and buy yourself some property there, so you have somewhere to go. Move enough money there to live well until you can start a bar or whatever to live. Plan this for a few years in advance if need be. Life is too short to be some stupid broad’s wage slave.
How charming!
Heartiste really has a way of bringing out the best in people!
Posted on December 26, 2011, in $MONEY$, alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, disgusting women, douchebaggery, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit. Bookmark the permalink. 328 Comments.









Happy Boxing Day, Manboobzers!
I’d like to thank David not only for allowing me to briefly usurp his megaphone of mockery for the majority of this post, but also for making some suave edits to my writing, thus honing my crude barbs into sharp, shiny points.
The article over at Château Heartiste is bad enough as it is, but to properly skewer all that’s wrong with the comments would have needed a post five times as long, at least. There’s some seriously ugly views and attitudes in the cesspit of the comments there, so I fully approve quoting and holding them up to extra mockery!
Catherine (the poster also known as Xanthë)
It’s as if it’s an Onion article. Hard to believe they could mean even a tenth of it. But I suppose they do.
These guys are so hilariously pathetic. Overcompensating much, dudes?
Also, here’s the thing about genetics – children inherit traits from both parents. So if our hypothetical beautiful woman was to settle for an ugly beta, she would in fact be polluting the gene pool with his genes of hideousness.
The lesson here, pretty ladies, is don’t fuck men who aren’t gorgeous. It’s your duty to society to shun imperfect men.
I’m reading the comment section so you don’t have to. Best so far:
“And no, I don’t use the politically slanted phrases “gay marriage” or “same sex marriage” any more than I say “transgender” or “heterosexual” or “undocumented” or “differently abled” (or the Marxist invention, “capitalism”). Contained in those contradictions-in-terms are the very assumptions whose passive acceptance makes radicalism seem inert and above argument — Maya’s conundrum. Appending “hetero-” to “sexual” invites the seemingly innocuous equality of the “homo-” version without argument or analysis, putting normal, healthy, and well-adjusted sexuality on par with men sodomizing each other’s GI tracts.”
“If your entire goal is to destroy the partriarchy and reduce white men to servitude, and turn society into a bunch of polyamorous bisexuals then gay marriage seems like a great idea.”
Gay marriage will do all that? Man, I wish.
Doesn’t the existence of unattractive man/beautiful woman couples (see: Dennis and Elizabeth Kucinich) go against everything MRAs believe about women being shallow whores who only fuck the %10 of men ? Am I putting too much thought into this? Probably.
“The wedding is an excuse for a big party, the lavish look-at-me attention-whoring of overgrown (physically and chronologically) princesses, profligate spending, and the chance to publicly pretend a tramp is still innocent (fucked-out guttersluts wearing white)… The marriage itself has nothing to do with children, who come before, during, or after the nuptials without social judgment. It is little more than Official Friends With Official Benefits, which can be voided like a contract with a kick-out because one day she decides, “I love him, but I’m not in love with him anymore,” or other such new age vapidities… Socially acceptable, extramarital sex and drive-thru divorce are at the heart of gay interest in the matrimonial frankenstein. Did you think the promiscuous anonymous fuckall that is the queer underground would be attracted to the dire sexual constrictions of marriage above-ground if restraint were still any part of the institution? No way, sssissster.”
“I KNOW I’ve gotten much more handsome and self-confident over the years.”
…Sure, dude, whatever you say.
“Gentleman, you know you’ve reached a certain level when you look down and catch a glint in their eyes that suggests you are part-rock star, part-father and part-you’ve just given her a G-spot orgasm.”
G-spot orgasms aren’t the be-all and end-all of orgasms; lots of vagina-owners prefer clitoral orgasms, just like some vagina-owners prefer G-spot. For many if not most vagina-owners, G-spot and clitoral orgasms feel similar. It’s natural anatomical differences.
…Father?
“You know, I am sure the HBD [human biodiversity, i.e. racist] crowd has explanation for this, but from what I’ve seen, there are countries in which the population is known for good looking men or women, but not both. So, Vietnam has gorgeous women, plain men, while the UK has better looking men than their women. I hypothesized that england’s beerwench culture and cold weather (spurring the desire for big boobies over pretty faces, causing british women have huge knockers) lead to this outcome. Cultural difference or something else? Anyway…either sex should demand more from their mates to avoid the Appalachia/Detroit genetic meltdown.”
Uh… Nigella Lawson? Karen Gillian? YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO TASTE IN WOMEN.
…Father?!
“Under the patriarchy these people would be able to find mates that are roughly in their sphere of looks rather than descending to warpig level. But with women free to pursue hypergamy, and crowd around the 9s and 10s, the 1-3s are free to pursue hypergamy as well, just with the 6-8s.”
He has numbers so you know it’s true!
…FATHER?!
““I KNOW I’ve gotten much more handsome and self-confident over the years.”
LOL! Confident, maybe. Handsome? Nope. Not unless he had cosmetic surgery during the intervening years.
Also, she’s looking up at you while you’re fucking her and thinking “father”? So the look you’re describing is “horrified”, then?
“Lefty men are overwhelmingly balless, sackless losers like this one. I’ll bet he married her because they both worked on a Demo-rat campaign together and he thought that “intellectually and politcally” they were compatible. And she cheats on him.”
Just so you know, liberals of the world, this is how all your relationships work. Also, Demo-rat, so clever.
“I know at least one guy who is handsome, and has some seemingly “paper alpha” qualities, but when it comes to women is very beta. He is one of the most feminist, white knighting guys I know. He has been been stuck in the friend-zone many times. He has had as far as I know 3 LTRs in his life and little fooling around outside of them. However, all three were very attractive. The girl he is with right now is an 8.5 to 9. And these are _quality_ women.”
BING BING BING YOUR MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE IS FALSIFIED
“My theory is that if a man is handsome enough, some women tend to assume that his lack of approaching them is not due to fear and beta-ness but to him actually being too good for them, so his behavior ends up accidentally working as a kind of game.”
…Or not.
Must be nice to have a theory that explains everything.
“girl who looked like she’d lost a fight with a cheese grater.”
I have no idea what this even means.
Yeah, Ozy, the ranting about gay marriage employs the usual kind of obtuse argument made by supposedly family-focussed or religious defenders of traditional marriage: if children are a requirement of marriage then infertile heterosexual couples shouldn’t be allowed to marry; women past menopause shouldn’t be allowed to marry; and let’s not consider alternatives to assist bringing children into such marriages, such as adoption, surrogacy or sperm donors, in vitro fertilisation etc.
More craziness.
Daddy?
(Yes, that bit of the comment disturbed me too. Brain bleach please? o_O)
“Don’t care if the uggo gives amazing head, doesn’t need to be wined & dined, is submissive to him, makes home cooked meals, takes it in the pooper…”
I would just like to preserve for posterity this list of “perfect girlfriend” traits. Also, fuck, I’m a perfect Roissy girlfriend. Heeeeeeeelp!
“Perhaps you are talking about Hugh Jackman and his pig fat wife!”
I absolutely love the level of shaming of men who aren’t dating women the other dudes find attractive. I mean, why do you CARE? Hugh Jackman is attractive to millions of women and he happens to want to fuck an overweight woman. So what?
“You get broken free of that part of the femiMatrix which gives females the illusion that they hold the power.”
There is no poon, Neo.
“Women will always be more devious and treacherous than we are.”
Women are Slytherins?
One dude opines that a woman with borderline or hysteric personality disorder, even if she’s an 8/9, is not good to date. Response: “What some guys consider crazy is relationship-type shit testing.” Yes. Diagnosable mental illnesses can be cured with MOAR ALPHA.
“I have little doubt that the good looking guy, Beta as he might be, was the victim of birth fraud. It is very possible the guy was whale-hunting or slump-busting at the time he impregnated the pig and “did the right thing” by marrying her. Betas think they’re Alpha when they do the right thing in girl-world.”
Whale-hunting? o.O Also, yes, you need to support your damn kids.
“I think a low level sense of dread keeps Women at their happiest. I know it makes no sense to us guys. But maybe it is because it makes them feel that they have reached the peak of the level of alpha they can obtain.”
It doesn’t make sense because IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. Women, in general, don’t like dread! We like, well, lots of different things, but “I want a guy who’s hot, sweet, funny, and makes me feel dread” is a very rare request.
“for anything more serious than a pump and dump, looks are not the sole determinant of a woman’s worth. her femininity, personality, and affability are also important. for marriage, her ability to be a good wife and mother become additional priorities.”
I’m not sure whether I’m more distressed about the traits they choose to care about, or happy that at least they care about more than how much you look like a Photoshopped porn star.
I loved the digression about Brits and boobs, btw.
British women – we’re in your weird little made-up mating system, messing things up with our huge boobs.
Somehow this doesn’t sound so convincing after mention of Tyrone’s retirement plan.
Whoa, blow jobs! It’s like a magic talisman in the thread, galvanising some posters, first STX:
Tyrone:
and STX again:
Behold the power of the mighty BJ!
Hugh Jackman’s wife is “pig-fat”? o.0
On what planet is this woman ugly or fat?
That would be Planet Delusional Asshole.
“Be careful imputing too much credibility to women when they say they “hate” a certain kind of guy. I’ve heard plenty of women over the years say they hate players, or even a specific man who is locally known as a player, who then go on to get that doggy dinner bowl look when that kind of man is in their company.”
“The only reason for the acceptability of the ugly-man/beautiful-woman paradigm is very simple. There is no such thing as an ugly wallet.”
“It’s like an old pair of jeans. Maybe a little worn out. But very comfortable. Good hearted, loyal, stable, and a good Mom to my kids buys my devotion.”
Aww, that’s kind of sweet.
“She also knows at the end of the day I have younger, hotter, tighter options.”
GODDAMMIT.
Every time I think to myself “gee I should get out and date” I read his blog. Then I think “Nope. Nope I think I’ll just stay right here and watch a movie or something”
That blog is the number one romance/sex/dating killer out there.
You have to admit that the name is hilarious. What does the stuff he rambles about have to do with the “heart”, other than that you generally needs yours to still be beating in order to fuck?
Penis size is a personality trait now?
Also random – if you like metal I just stumbled upon the best possible soundtrack to reading this stuff. Chthonic – Taiwanese death metal band with a female bass player. It just so happens that the woman in question is a friend of a friend (and gorgeous), and I know for a fact that if anyone tried that “little brown fucking machines” shit on her she’d punch them in the face.
I find that thought both amusing and oddly soothing.
- Honey, please do the dishes while I put the kids to bed.
– Goddamit, women, respect my mighty penis or I go live in China and have sex with teenagers younger than our children. Also I will totally open a bar or something.
– Sure, honey, sure.
* walk back slowly and grab a suitcase and the kids.
Also, I think he meant “un coup de maitre”. Un coup de main is just being helpful, but I’m guessing he does neither.
This kind of article makes me a bit sick and but also sad for those men. Instead of saying: “Apparently all the possible combinations of people exist, including some that don’t make a lot of sense to me at first sight. Funny that. Now, how could I make my life better?”, they spend their time scheming and inventing crazy theories to explain the world in a way that make them look good and rationalize their anger.
I was going to say, my French kind of sucks, but I don’t think that means what he thinks it means.
Actually, someone should adapt this and use it next time a PUA approaches them.
“Hey baby, nice nails, are they fake?”
“I’m sorry, but I just can’t risk polluting the gene pool with your inferior beta blood. I mean, will you look at that hair? And those shoes, ugh. I just can’t fuck you, I’m afraid – my superior genes must not be diluted. It’s for the good of mankind that I reject you.”
Tyrone’s plan to run away is total bullshit. If one spouse files for divorce, someone living out of the country has 90 days to sign the divorce papers. If zie doesn’t sign the papers, the divorce will proceed anyway without hir involvement. It’s not a good idea to simply ignore the divorce because then you won’t be able to state your desires in mediation or court. Tyrone is describing desertion, which is a grounds for a fault divorce. As a guilty party in the fault divorce, he would stand to lose more than agreeing to an amicable no fault divorce. In other words, his foolproof plan to screw over his wife would only hurt himself.
Actually I have to thank the dumbasses at Heartiste for putting me into the mood to listen to lots of metal and horrorpunk. I am now officially having much more fun than they ever will.
By the way, if Tyrone was discussing desertion as a way to avoid child support, his plan also could backfire. Just because he leaves the country, he would still be responsible for paying child support. The US government would not be able to garnish his wages if he was working in another country, but it is possible to extradite him because failure to pay is a crime. I don’t know how likely extradition is, though. Either way, the arrearage will keep growing as he hides away and doesn’t pay. He wouldn’t want to come back to his home country unless he has the money to pay all back support. Another consequence is that the US government can put a freeze on him obtaining or renewing his passport, limiting his ability to flee his obligations.
Finally, if he has a professional license to practice medicine, law, teaching, etc. he could also have his license suspended until the arrearage is paid in full. That wouldn’t prevent him from working unlicensed in another country, but it would make it very difficult for him to obtain a new license in another country. I’m not sure why he would be willing to travel without a passport, launder money, and face jail time just to avoid paying for his own children’s needs, assuming he has children and is afraid of paying child support. This is just showing another way that desertion is not only an unethical solution to an unhappy marriage, but it’s also not in his own self interest.
The only good thing Roissy ever did was coin the term “hamster spinning,” or at least I think he did. Otherwise, he is pretty much the king of betas. To me, Roissy represents a movement which refuses to hold women accountable for their behaviour. A movement where women acting like selfish, unintelligent and hypocritical infants is justified, and the onus is on the guy to just man up and learn to deal with it. In this world, failure and success is based on how well a man works with these negative traits in order to supplicate women in the way they specifically desire.
In other words, Roissy is repackaged feminism.
This is why MGTOW will always be the superior movement. It tells women that it takes two to tango. That if women want sex and romance with us intelligent, creative, handsome and witty guys, then THEY are the ones who need to step up their game. The world will improve when women collectively agree to grow personalities, grow spines, get some hobbies and graduate to being human beings, not by continuing this sick system of women as temperamental rubiks cubes and guys as those who have to restructure their lives to solve them.
Smash the gynocracy.
Intelligent, creative, handsome, and witty guys… like the dude who keeps calling women manatees?
I’ll pass.
Kendra, when these guys fantasize about running away to another country they often talk about finding one that won’t extradite them back to the us. I’m not sure what those countries are, but then again I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about fleeing the country to escape US law.
THERE IS NO POON.
Ozy, thanks for that.
@ozy
Manatee is not a gendered term. There’s male manatees, and if you put on enough weight then whatever you are would be a manatee as well.
Ozy:
Wait, isn’t the point of the whole MGTOW thing supposed to be that you’re going to go your own way, ie associate with women no more?
If it really is an attempt to force women to change our behavior (and yes, I know that it is) then it may go down in history as the least effective political movement of all time.
In guerrilla warfare “coup de main” is an attack that relies on speed and surprise. Not really appropriate if you are saying your wife knows what you would do since you lose the element of surprise. So pretty clueless about tactics as well as about dating.
Wikipedia says that the US lacks extradition treaties with countries including the People’s Republic of China, Namibia, the United Arab Emirates, North Korea, and Bahrain.
Oh, yeah, you know what they say about those hot North Korean chicks. All the starvation means there’s not a single warpig.
Arks: Yes, but you shouldn’t call fat people manatees regardless of what gender they are. Just like you shouldn’t call gay people fags no matter what race they are.
Viscaria: Thankfully I’m a hairy-legged genderqueer who curses like a sailor and can’t get through half an hour’s conversation without mentioning rape culture, so I’m good.
Dear Roissy,
Using words like “prefrontal cortex” doesn’t make what your saying any less dumb. I promise.
Love,
Female Scientist Who Doesn’t Sleep With PUAs
Arks: I’ve had a really shit week (sick as a dog over Christmas will do that), but that line of BS made me laugh. Loudly. So thanks for that, and good luck with the going your own way – believe me when I tell you that the reaction of many women will be ‘don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.’
This as such an idiotic thing for a MAN to be saying about other men and whom they date. Why the hell would he even care if other men are dating women he finds unattractive??? This honestly sounds like it’s coming from a female point of view. It’s no surprise that women might feel irked when they see a guy then think is handsome with a woman they consider to be uglier than they are…….Maybe he’s a closet case or something. Who knows.
Isn’t Roissy in his early 40s? A bit old to be acting like he’s still in high school.
“LBFM” is disgusting. Do these guys think Stormfront’s too progressive on the subject of women or something? Because they’d fit right in.
Arks, if MGTOW is the superior philosophy, isn’t it time you hit the road?
But hellkell, negative attention from women is better than no attention at all. Just ask Om Nom!
The thing that strikes me the most about Roissy is how weirdly childish he is. Between “Pigwoman blood” and this one post about sluts that has this crude drawing of a woman at the center of a circle of floating penes, he really reminds me of the mentality of myself and the people I knew between the ages of 5 and 9. The difference is, the children were seldom or never so hateful.
I didn’t even notice my own blockquotes fail. Oops.
I hope one day I do encounter one of these PUA types, someone who figures I’ll be the perfect target, and then ruin his day :D
lol David, they don’t know what they’re talking about. I just looked up more information, and many countries already have reciprocal arrangements made with the US to help each other enforce child support obligations without even having to go through the extradition process. The parent with unpaid arrears and a canceled passport can also face jail time in their new country of residence. If any of them ever managed to move to another country that didn’t have a reciprocal arrangement with the US, then they will have to remain as long as they have unpaid back support. As soon as they set foot on US soil again, they’re in trouble.
They also haven’t considered that moving to another country involves more than just packing a backpack and getting on an airplane. You’ll need a passport to get into the new country. You might need to learn another language. You’ll have to find a place to live, a place to work without any legal work documents, and quickly adapt to another culture. How many of the PUA’s that fantasize about deserting their families think these things through? I’m guessing zero. They might as well say “Nobody can make me pay child support, because I am going to hide under my bed where no one can ever find me!”.
I hope for their sake it’s not China they’re planning to move to, because if they do they’ll find themselves competing with a workforce that’s better educated than they are, while probably not being able to speak the language. I do not see this going well for them.
Didn’t catch the Detroit reference on the first read through. Is he trying to say Detroit has too many black people (and Muslims, and black Muslims) without actually coming right out and saying it?
Admittedly, it’s not in the best shape right now. But any city where people willingly smuggle dead octopi into a major sports venue for the sole purpose of throwing them on the ice is pretty fucking awesome in my book. Well, that and the Christmas miracle that is the Lions making the playoffs.
Gawd, I just love MGTOW. They’re as misogyst as PUA, but they’re harmless AND they hate PUAS more than anybody. Watching them fight is like watching withe supremacists fight with homophobes or extreme wings politicians fight together.
Also, Arks is still funny.
Roissy, a feminist? ROTFL
Can we set up a cage match or something? It would be like mixed martial arts, but with really whiny people who’re out of shape, so they just sit in opposite corners and throw insults at each other.
The stormfronters don’t like them (mras/mgtowers more than puas) because they’re always saying bad things about white women. Seriously. I’ve been meaning to do a post on it.
I say put MRAs, PUAs and MGTOWs on their own island. Turn it into a reality show or something. Call it Misogynist Mayhem. They’ll either end up killing each other (I give it an hour before their “theory” that women start wars is rendered false) or by dying from starvation since there’s no women around to make them their sammiches.
Holy bucketful of crazy world these guys live in. I used to date a guy that read and apparently lived by these PUA/AlphaBetaOmega nonsense, and it totally blows my mind reading up more into this. How much brain do you need to live in such a simple world?
and was he, as the PUAs have said before “swimming in pussy” Niki?
“The stormfronters don’t like them (mras/mgtowers more than puas) because they’re always saying bad things about white women. Seriously. I’ve been meaning to do a post on it.”
This amuses me greatly, but I shouldn’t be surprised.
“and was he, as the PUAs have said before “swimming in pussy” Niki?”
It’s quite the mental image, isn’t it?
(Also, according to legend that’s how Mao got syphillis. Literal swimming pools full of naked women. Why are these guys not hailing him as a hero?)
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; I do not believe that MGTOW actually exists. I don’t believe that it’s anything other than a rather complicated troll ‘organization’ of dis enfranchized men who then work backwards with a ridiculous set of beliefs to justify their tragic lives.
@Cassandra
I’m just picturing a giant vagina shaped swimming pool
That’s rather disingenuousness of you Ark, when the term is being used almost exclusively to refer to women rather than men. Even on Roissy’s post, in the comments there is this contribution by Dead Eye:
Maybe he’s learning to groom.
Oh do tell :D Let me just fetch the bon bons quick.
The closest I came was a guy who read Maxim. I remember asking him why and he was all “Look! How to land an airplane in an emergency! Why would you not want to know this?” XD
Is anyone able to tell I haven’t had enough sleep recently? *looks at the horrific clanger in my 6:17 pm post and shakes head*
Kendra, the early retirement plans of Tyrone simply don’t stand up to any scrutiny, but it’s amusingly representative of the tough guy, taking no shit from my wife, sort of bluster. It bears the same relationship to reality that Om Nom’s porn fantasies have to do with buttsex, as wanked over at length in one of the other threads.
Warpig?! OMG, I love it! I shall sketch it at once, straight away. I also like gutterslut. I wish I was erm, experienced enough to be called that, but I’ll have to content my self with warpig, I suppose.
These guys are loathsome on so many levels. Sexist, racist, homophobic, anti-choice, transphobic, fat-shaming turds. Do they really think they’re going to change anyone’s mind with despicable swill like this?
I totally agree. Besides, aren’t men Supposed to go their own way already? Most women want independent men who aren’t needy and/or so desperate for access to a vagina that they become chivalrous doormats.
Behold the power of the mighty BJ!
despite the massive amounts of context i first read this as ‘the mighty lbj’ and reflexively nodded.
I can believe in MGTOW.
It’s just the only one I ever met was wearing leather chaps, working the door of a gay night club, and told my gay male friend to “drop the fish”.
SWGmigraines, it’s not about changing women’s minds, it’s about posturing for the other men.