AgentOrange and the Screencaps of Feminazi Doom
Santa is no longer interested in bringing joy to girls.
Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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Posted on December 22, 2011, in antifeminism, creepy, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, misandry, misogyny, MRA, none dare call it conspiracy, oppressed men, paul elam, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 643 Comments.
Holly – “Wait, hangon a second.
NWO doesn’t believe in evolution, but he does believe in evolutionary psychology?
???????????
wut”
SERIOUSLY, What is up with this NWO. You seem the most Nature Dictates Action out of ANYONE here? Then whats with all the mate displays and biological nature facts you give us?
@Holly Pervocracy
I said no definition help. You cheated. Or do they let you have open book tests these days for equality?
NWO, I didn’t cheat. I’m in nursing school and I had my Microbiology final about a week ago. I actually know these things.
@zhinxy
zhinxy does believe in evolution, but she does believe in evolutionary psychology?
Whose the more foolish?
Let me redo that
zhinxy does believe in evolution, but she doesn’t believe in evolutionary psychology?
NWO isn’t going to believe anyone could know what a protein is without looking it up. He’s so dedicated to his own ignorance, he thinks everyone else is the same way.
@Holly Pervocracy
I guess I’ll have to take your word on that. I found believing whatever I’m told is smart.
Okay, here goes. A protein is a long chain of amino acids. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. There are 20 different kinds of amino acid known to science. Off the top of my head, they are: lyseine, glutamine, gluceine, alanine, phenylaninine or however you spell it, tryptophan, valine and.. um… argenine and… um, gluceic acid and… errr… there’s the one with the thingy?
Oh shit. I just realized I’m an imbecile. How dependent on wiki I have become!
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SERVANT, BUT IT WAS THE MASTER ALL ALONG! NOOOOOOO! WHAT A FOOL I WAS! AND AM! A FOOOOOL!
*double power facepalm*
Saying “I believe our bodies evolved, but we have free will” is a little philosophical, but not necessarily inconsistent.
Saying “I believe God created our bodies, but our behaviors are inherited from apes” is pants-on-head hilarious.
Well, yeah, that’s the only way anyone ever gets to be a Creationist.
Let me redo that
“zhinxy does believe in evolution, but she doesn’t believe in evolutionary psychology?”
I believe that evolution has affected us psychologically, but I htink the discipline of evolutionary psychology is an utter wasteland. So in a sense, yes, I suppose I believe in Evolutionary Psychology, but right now it is an UNKNOWN IDEAL. Also, we are conscious, rational beings capable of choice and self-direction, regardless of the origin of such. It doesn';t require a supernatural origin to accept free will or the trancendent.( Oh fuck, is this like Meller and Arks? Do I suddenly have to start invoking fucking Rand cause she’s making way more sense than you fuckers? Holy shit *grumble fuckign mumble swears* )
The information given about proteins must be wrong because it came from Holly, and she is a feminist, and feminists lie about everything.
Hey Slavey – water is wet. Am I lying?
*double power facepalm*
Saying “I believe our bodies evolved, but we have free will” is a little philosophical, but not necessarily inconsistent.
Saying “I believe God created our bodies, but our behaviors are inherited from apes” is pants-on-head hilarious.”
or what Holly Said XD
@Holly Pervocracy
If you say so it’s true. Blind faith is blind faith isn’t it.
You believe in complex dna codes being witten by rocks a long time ago.
Put simplistically of course.
Your only evidence of this is blind faith.
That’s your belief right?
The earth doesn’t do that anymore right?
It’s not an observable phenomenon?
The only proof is theory?
Am I correct?
No, CassandraSays, I had to be cheating, because I knew something, and no one ever knows a fact.
Facts are like proteins–not to be trusted unless you get them from Internet conspiracy theorists and Jack Chick.
I love how you formatted that one as Free Verse.
Also, is Verse ever truly Free while there is feminism? Discuss.
That’s like, poetry, NWO…
Um, do you have evidence besides blind faith? Because, well, shit, I’d really like to see that.
“You believe in complex dna codes being witten by rocks a long time ago.”
Well, you can’t prove the rock people didn’t come to earth and do it. Why go for god?
Holly – “Um, do you have evidence besides blind faith? Because, well, shit, I’d really like to see that.”
YES. SO VERY MUCH.
NWO, WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE. AND WHAT IS LAW? HOW IS LAW MADE?
That is actually observable. So how does it happen?
@Holly Pervocracy
I never said I had anything other than faith.
You’re the one who claims something other than faith.
My faith is God.
Your faith is, what would you call it?
Sometimes my boyfriend walks by and asks me “why are you making those noises at the computer?” and I show him the screen and then he understands.
(my boyfriend is a rock person)
Nwo. If abiogenesis were proved in a lab. like, flat out proved, would that affect your faith in god?
WHAT IS A LAW?
@Holly Pervocracy
You believe in a completely unprovable theory. Well me too!
Holly – LOL.
(my boyfriend is a rock person)
Rock people are sexy. You’re so lucky.
Why is your unproven rock theory so much smarter than my unproven God theory?
nwo – “@Holly Pervocracy
You believe in a completely unprovable theory. Well me too!”
Then why go around mocking people for it or acting like you’re intellectually superior or more of a free thinker?
ALSO WHAT IS A LAW? HOW IS LAW MADE?
@Holly Pervocracy
Hey, quick question?
Where’d all the stuff come from. I know your theory say’s it was a tiny little pinpoint in space. Was it like at first there was nothing and then there was something?
I’ll be honest with you, NWO, there’s always an element of faith in science, because we could all be living in a Matrix simulation or a butterfly’s dream or something. But assuming that physical reality is more or less what it appears to be, evidence for evolution includes but is not limited to:
-Fossils resembling but not identical to modern species
-Similar traits in related species
-The genetic heritability of traits, and the directly observed fact that different traits can be selected for in each round of reproduction (tall parents have tall kids, and if the environment is such that short parents die, soon all the kids will be tall)
-The experimental production of amino acids from inorganic molecules
-Vestigial traits such as rudimentary hip bones in whales
And so forth? I did that without looking anything up, there’s a lot more, I’m not an evolutionary biology expert here. Ask me about parasitic infestation symptoms or something.
Here’s another paradox for NWO.
1. All feminists always lie.
2. I am a feminist.
3. I am lying.
Oh no! Statement #3 is true because all feminists always lie, but it has to be a lie because I’m a feminist and I made the statement!
Okay, fine. NWO, your sheer determination and pigheadedness have finally broken me down. The truth is, I AM an evil feminist communist who advocates for evolution in order to trick innocents into hell, and I also advocate for women’s rights in order to oppress and eventually enslave men.
I’m sorry to have concealed this from everyone, but let me explain how I came to view the male gender as something that must be kept under control:
I was an unpopular child throughout school, but things intensified in junior high. Usually, that’s when girls get especially clique-y and vicious, but for me, the majority of the classmates making my life hell were boys that I’d gotten on the wrong side of, some all the way back from kindergarten. They’d spread rumors, “accidentally” spill their drinks on my backpack as they walked by at lunch, and throw pencils, erasers, anything at my head when teachers weren’t looking. I knew from experience in middle school that reporting them would only make my life more of a hell, so I kept my mouth shut. That is, until the biology class dissected frogs and I went to my locker at the end of the day, and found it stuffed full of sliced up amphibian corpses.
I reported them. They were suspended, since the evidence was right there on top of my text books for the world to see. I thought that would be the end of it. But this happened during basketball season, and most of them were star jocks. I should have known I couldn’t ruin a season for them like that and walk away unscathed. One day, my sister got off the school bus with a black eye. I couldn’t take it anymore. I had tried ignoring them, I had tried turning the other cheek, I’d tried going to the adults, but nothing worked, and now they were targeting my family. It was time to take matters into my own hands, time to get revenge against those men who made my life hell and were shrugged aside with a laugh and a “boys will be boys, they’ve probably got a crush.”
So I gathered whatever weapons I could find from around the house and stuffed them into my backpack. The next morning I waited for the school bus with butterflies in my stomach, chills through my limbs, and some mad, half-formed plan in mind. I tried to look casually, tried not to jostle my backpack so it wouldn’t jingle when I climbed the steps of the bus and stood right beside the driver, scanning the seats to find a seat where no one would ask questions. Looking around, I saw my friends
Kickin’ in the front seat, chillin’ in the back seat. Gotta make my mind up, which seat can I take?
I’ll be straight up with you: I don’t understand the science on this one myself. I have some personal understanding of evolution, not so much of cosmology.
So I guess it comes down to that I’ve decided to trust the scientific consensus, because they at least claim to have evidence that many intelligent people agree on, and the other people are just selling faith, and those people think dinosaur bones are a trap by Satan or something.
@zhinxy
I’m the one who regularly get’s mocked for believing in God. Everyone here including you bring it up and ridicule me.
You’re the one’s claiming intellectual superiority because of that fact. I didn’t bring it up, one of you did. If I dare defned myself you just intensify the mockery to justify your faith.
You wanna know what I think? It doesn’t really matter in terms of my conception of god, since god/not god is, whatever other attributes it has, identifiable with the logical structure of reality, god/not god can be understood in a certain sense as creator and sustainer no matter how the universe happened, and whether or not god ever did anything. I don’t think this is bare bones sophistry, I think this is awesome. Also, the stuff came from the Stork.
Lauralot, you just invented the new Rickroll! *Dies of laughter*
@Holly Pervocracy
“So I guess it comes down to that I’ve decided to trust the scientific consensus, because they at least claim to have evidence that many intelligent people agree on,”
I am default unintelligent because of my beliefs, yet your just as totally unproven belief makes you more intelligent than me. Quite convenient.
Also, this means you can’t do “Can God Make A Rock She Can’t Lift” on me. Cause in a certain sense, god IS the fact she can’t make a rock she can’t lift! HAH!
I believe in God! Whoever said I didn’t?
I don’t believe in a God who acts in ways that directly affect and make sense to humans, though. My conception of God is more like a being that has the universe for a body, a shared consciousness of the cosmos, something that can’t violate the laws of physics (and thus has no free will) but has an awareness of itself. I think that subjective consciousness is supernatural, it’s fractal, and the largest scale of that fractal is God.
It’s not a big man in the sky who made all the bunnies, but I believe in God.
NWO, our theory has a shiny thing called “evidence.” You might have heard of it.
For instance, experiments have shown that the basic building blocks of life can form in an environment similar to earth’s at its creation. In fact, all kinds of research has been done on abiogenesis (creation of life from non-life), including the synthesis of organic molecules in space* or of constitutents around hydrothermal vents and research into the formation of long proteins.
*Totally. Fucking. COOL.
Is Holly a Na’vi?
What’s say we leave the God/not God out of all further discussions as a precurser to intelligence levels?
Hmmm, sounds like a pretty intelligent thing to say.
The concept of “evidence” was invented by the gynocracy as a means of torturing men, just like miniskirts.
The Big Bang isn’t unproven. (Well, it isn’t proven, but there’s evidence for it.) I just don’t personally understand the evidence, and I made the foolish choice to be honest about that.
However, I’ve read a lot of scientists saying that they do understand and accept the evidence of the Big Bang, and because those scientists agree with me on things I do understand (and creationists don’t), I trust those scientists when they talk about things that I don’t understand.
Also, Big Bang and God are hardly the only two theories out there. What about “everything is a computer simulation” or “the universe has existed forever”?
@ozymandias42
Where’d all the stuff come from? Backed by evidence of course.
I’m a pantheist.
…I worship cookware.
The stuff came from wanting more government.
@Holly Pervocracy
So let me get this straight.
What you’re telling me is.
According to evolution.
In the beggining there was nothing.
Then the universe was created.
Then the earth was created.
Then all the trees and plants.
Then all the animals and fishes.
Then finally man was created.
Sounds kinda hoaky ta me.
Holly, I like Pan-en-Deism for myself. Like pantheism, identified with what is, like panentheism, what is PLUS the trancendent, like deism, apart and impersonal but not amoral. So I worship the sacredness within the cookware, which is all because of the logical structure underlying yet trancending the cookware, but doesn’t have to actually “exist” to be real, and which does not leave us in an immoral universe, despite having no morality!
also, PANENDEISM is latinish so that is now a BRAND NAME.
It’s sort of funny that NWO is pushing the God angle so hard here, because I’m pretty sure most understandings of the Christian God would take one look at NWO’s plans for the women of His glorious creation and go “Oh hell no, thou shalt not any of that shit.“
And I meant it when I said Aquinas was a huge influence on this view of mine, I’m not even sure I’m not actually still a Catholic somehow…
Cute, but no, some of the plants came after animals and some of the animals came after humans.
(In fact, speciation is still occurring! HeLa cells, for instance, are considered a totally new organism despite the fact that they originated in a tumor on a human being–they grow independently and are no longer recognizably human. They’re more of a microorganism than a fish or a tree, though.)
@Holly Pervocracy
I think God also said for women to actually repect men. Feminists say, Oh hell no, thou shalt not any of that shit.
Holly:
And no one understands him. Period.
Cassandra:
If you were closer …
Oh, Holly, ande everybody, read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks if you haven’t. It’s just incredible.
And Jesus said, if someone doesn’t respect you, call for them to be beaten in the streets.
Jesus was all about the beatings. Very vindictive man. Not many people know that.
HollyPervocracy, well there were the moneychangers in the temple, who not many people know were actually manginas.
Manginas? No, zhinxy. They were….
“international bankers.”
@Holly Pervocracy
“(In fact, speciation is still occurring! HeLa cells, for instance, are considered a totally new organism despite the fact that they originated in a tumor on a human being–they grow independently and are no longer recognizably human. They’re more of a microorganism than a fish or a tree, though.)”
Well wippdydoodle. They catalogue new plants, insects and such every year. Can we conclude from that they never existed because they weren’t catalogued? Is that the, “I ain’t never seen that before so it must be a new life form theory.” You’re reaching now into wikimania to prove how much smarter you are. What’s your next trick? Having 5 pages of wiki open instead of 4?
HOLLY – “Manginas? No, zhinxy. They were….
“international bankers.””
YOU JUST KILLED MY KEYBOARD WITH COFFEE.
Me, I’m a Lovecraftian. I basically think that the universe is a vast, cold place that doesn’t care about me and that is fundamentally injust, unfair, and broken. However, we do have the power to stave off the injustice and unfairness and brokenness for a while, except instead of using Elder Signs to do it we instead use kindness and joy and reason and love. :)
To quote the great Sir Terry, there’s no justice. Just us.
@Holly Pervocracy
Two thousand years of mocking Jesus?
Actually, yes, because Henrietta Lacks was only born in 1920. HeLa cells are from a tumor in her body. I guarantee you that Henrietta Lacks did not exist at the time of the Great Flood.
Yeah, I am looking some of this stuff up. What’s wrong with that? You can do it too. (In fact, judging by your copy-pasting skillz, you are.) I don’t have everything memorized. It’s humility, not “cheating,” to use references for information.
This isn’t a school exam. You don’t get extra points for keeping your book closed.
ozy, actually, if you were lovecraftian, you’d have to throw in maltheism, yes? I';m very dissapointed in you if you don’t have squamous squiggly gods and alien geometries.
“I guarantee you that Henrietta Lacks did not exist at the time of the Great Flood.”
I told you to read the book, Holly.
@Holly Pervocracy
Well, damn I thought everyone here was default intelligent. Correction, knowledgeable. One has nothing to do with the other.
Darn. I should have known. Henrietta Lacks has always existed.
Oooh! Theology! I am on much more comfortable ground here than biology.
Ephesians 5:22-24 (KJV, in deference to NWO’s no-doubt traditionalist tastes)
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Hmm… the husband is to behave to the wife as Christ to the Church? How does Christ behave towards his Church?
John 13:4-5
He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
…Oh. Right. That. Probably a mangina.
A non-intelligent human being is about as rare as rare can be, NWO. We’re about as brilliant a species as could ever be asked for. A non-sensible or ignorant human being, on the other hand…
It’s funny, you actually got me playing along for a bit with the “memory only, nobody can look anything up!” game.
But… why? I mean, my memory is only things that I learned from outside sources longer ago. Whether I’m reading the definition of “protein” out of a book or from memory, I got it out of a book originally.
Why is it so important to only use knowledge I learned slightly longer ago?
Oooh! Theology! I am on much more comfortable ground here than biology.”
YOU SAID LOVECRAFTIAN! THE TENTACLES ARE ALL AFTER US AND THE SPACE COLOR IS SCARY AND THAT’S ALL WE NEED FOR THEOLOGY AND BIOLOGY BOTH! ;)
Jesus was so mangina, man.
btw ozy, I totally do know what you meant, and that’s awesome, but I’m gonna picture you in a diaphonous gown calling up the Old Ones with your mad gibberish from now on and you CAN’T STOP ME.