AgentOrange and the Screencaps of Feminazi Doom
Santa is no longer interested in bringing joy to girls.
Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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Posted on December 22, 2011, in antifeminism, creepy, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, misandry, misogyny, MRA, none dare call it conspiracy, oppressed men, paul elam, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 643 Comments.
NWO, these resources may help you:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE420.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE440.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE441.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB020.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB000.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010_2.html
I have a bunch of links in moderation, NWO, that may help enlighten you about how evolution works.
By the time you’re in fifth grade or so you’ll be able to start understanding the answers to questions like “how’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?”
Holly, you owe me a soda! It’s all over my keyboard now. xD
So what’s the difference between old math and new math? Does old math use a slide rule?
Because, much like space, your ignorance knows no bounds.
The old math uses the beaten bodies of women who were disrespectful to men, obviously. How else are people supposed to count?
Okay, NWO’s older than I thought if he’s complaining about “the new math.”
The difference between a “theory” and a “fact” is that a fact is a direct observation, and a theory is an explanation of facts. So intelligent design is at best a theory also. But it’s a theory with a lot fewer facts supporting it.
Dude, where did this “feminists hate Christmas” thing come from? I’m too confused to mock it. Help me out here.
@clairedammit: Feminists are communists. Communists hate religion. Hence, feminists hate Christmas.
Jesus Christ bananas….
“I was offended by MRA’s on the Spearhead forum that said they wanted to remove the voice boxes of baby girls and put all women in rape camps. Even though their statements were vile and inexcusable, I never thought they should have their private information plastered all over the Internet.
Apparently, Elam has plans in store that are going to be worse than this. He said
We now have a team of individuals that goes beyond what we advertise on our pages, and we are gearing up to add a new doomsday prophesy to 2012. Let’s put it this way: The fembots better hope the Mayan’s were right about next year, because they would rather deal with that than the things we are cooking up.”
Ummm….this here sounds like a Terroristic threat to me, and should probably be report to…..fuck, whomever. Now, how to go about doing that….HMMMMM….(no, seriously, I’m brainlocking–bear with me, just came back from a beoytch of a workout).
@Slavey–yes, ’tis I, 10G, ready to bring you some more TRITE SHRIEKING! I should just change my Avatar to “Trite Shrieker”….anyhoo, lemme try to break down the girly pain shizzle for ya, McDizzle: Me girl! Me gots girly parts! Once a month, as is the case with MANY wimmenz, they HURT LIKE HELL, because once my body figures out that there ain’t no baby-helping jibbers (i.e., spermies from BOY PARTS), my UTERUS (MAJOR ladypart) gets a wee little too enthusiastic and gives me hella bad cramps, because–well, it’s weird that way. And until you’ve become a girl and actually HAVE these lady parts that can, and often do, hurt monthly, you have NO RIGHT to decide whether or not we (or ANYONE under ANY circumstances) deserve pain management. Period. Oh, and what the hell do YOU know of God? You are the EXACT antithesis of the teachings of Christ (dude who was God’s son, remember?). You are cruel, have no sympathy or mercy….you just…nevermind. If you actually KNEW your creator, you probably wouldn’t act like you do. How the fuck do you deal with FEMALE cows all day? I’m surprised your brain hasn’t turned itself inside out and you don’t run nekkid through the cow pasture.
@Holly: Weed, meanness and embalming fluid? ROFLMAO!! Yeah, that’d be the Slavey specialty mix!!
@Cynikal–High five ’cause you’re always so cool.
I forgot I was a communist! THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING! Thanks, Lauralot!
@CassandraSays
It’s called critical thinking. I simply don’t accept what anyone tells me is a fact. Did you know that when I was in school they told me the universe was between 3.5 and 4.5 billion years old. These days we’re told it’s around 13 billion years old. Does that make me 10 billion years old? The fact, is they simply have no idea.
Say I use the speed of light as a way to measure time. What if the thorized speed of light is way off?
Say I use the rate of cooling as a way to measure time? What if the cooling was much quicker or slower after the “big bang”
The big bang is the premise of a singularity. No one knows what if anything existed before.
It’s a lot of thoeries, which are based on theories, which are based on theories. Kinda makes my theory of male/female sexuality seem like genius by comparison. At least I use actual observation.
If NWO wrote a math book, it would have the following word problem.
Ten evil lying women board a train traveling west at 60 mph. Five male victims of paternity fraud board a second train traveling east at 35 mph. How long will it take for all ten women to falsely accuse all five men of rape? Show your work.
“Kinda makes my theory of male/female sexuality seem like genius by comparison.”
Not really, no.
Greetings from planet Earth, by the way.
NWO, have you ever smoked weed? If not, I’d recommend it. I think it would do wonders for you.
I love, love love, LOVE, you NWO. You do such a fine job representing your people.
I’m still blown away that you can write things like this, and some of the regulars will still try to reason with you. They have the patience of saints. Meanwhile, you have the willful ignorance of a cult member.
Hey NWO, if you drink this Kool-Aid I made, all the evil feminists will go away. Try some!
Okay, NWO, so, uh, where did the universe come from?
(psst: the speed of light is not that hard to measure. you can do it with a candy bar. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Measure-the-Speed-of-Light-Using-Chocola/ )
Apparently this is NWO on weed. It does make some people paranoid. In his case maybe he should stop.
@10G
That was quite a rant. You say “many.” What is many? I never said you didn’t feel pain. I debunked the myth that your pain is due to misogyny. the entire rant by Amused was centered around false propaganda. Misogyny of course was the culprit. Misogyny was the core of her speech.
I’ve never seen a female cow or a bull close up. This is just the standard rhetoric of everyone who resides here to ridicule everything about me. I am a non-feminist man after all. I deserve hatred and scorn.
Goddidit.
Goddidit is always the answer from the kind of person that NWO is.
MRAL, it would be nice if weed would help him calm down. However, it also have the side effect of causing paranoia. NWO definitely doesn’t need that.
Oops, ninja’ed.
Yeah, everyone responds differently I guess. But for myself, the other day I was smoking pot and I was just so zen. Always an awesome feeling.
I’m now trying to imagine a less-mellow NWO. If it gives me nightmares I’m holding MRAL responsible.
Maybe the weed is NWOs attempt to self-medicate? Since all mental health professionals are women and thus evil.
Maybe NWO sprang fully formed from Thomas Pynchon’s asscrack sweat.
@Holly Pervocracy
I’ll try that experiment, although it doesn’t look nearly as fun as mentos and coke.
@CassandraSays
Haven’t had any weed in 2 years. Now that’s a crime.
The night mental healthy worker at my ER isn’t just male, he’s a really crusty and kind of sexist old guy. He’s a pretty poor representative of the feminist takeover of the mental health establishment.
@Men’s Rights Activist Lieutenant
Nah, ya just thow some rocks into a lava pit, wait for lightening to strike and it makes DNA. Every kid knows that.
Not that all of Thomas Pynchon’s asscrack sweat would give rise to NWO’s particular brand of paranoia. But much like sons often differ from their fathers, likewise, you get all kinds.
Wait, NWO, do you believe in evolution?
Actually, if you include water, nitrogen, methane, and such, this is about right. You get amino acids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment (I know, wiki link, but the experiment was performed before Wikipedia was invented, there are many other sources describing it.)
Amino acids + a bijillion years of recombination selecting for the best combinations = LIFE! It’s pretty awesome,huh?
10G: /high-five!
I know this will probably be too complicated for our genius level milking machine technition but, submitted for your approval.
MRAL – to answer your question in a more serious way, if we just ignore NWO, his lies go unanswered. Maybe we’ll never change his mind (or even his talking points), but educating the lurkers is a virtue in itself.
Glad to see you in such good form, by the way.
@Holly Pervocracy
Millers theory actually proves the impossibility of life being created from lifelessness.
Proteins are so hard to make that in all of nature, they never form except in already living cells. Never! This scientific fact stands in stark contrast to what was taught.
This from millers work which they don’t teach you in school.
“Since science has not the vaguest idea how (proteins) originated, it would only be honest to admit this to students, the agencies funding research, and the public.”
Proteins, like houses, do not build themselves. A cell, however, would be better compared to a city than a house because, just as it takes many houses to make a city, the simplest of cells are composed of at least hundreds of proteins. Proteins, like houses, soon break down, so even if some proteins could build themselves (which they cannot) a concentration of all the needed proteins could never build up.
In addition, their left-handed amino acids switch toward half left and half right-handed even after they have been made into proteins. To function in a living cell, each protein must have its own peculiar three-dimensional shape. Usually if even one right-handed amino acid is included, it changes the shape of the protein enough that it cannot function properly. In a living cell a protein in which an amino acid has switched handedness is chopped up and replaced with a new one. If the impossible had happened, and a first protein had built up, some of its amino acids would have switched to right-handed while it was waiting for the other proteins to form. As soon as the first amino acid had switched, the protein in which it was found would have become useless.
The spontaneous formation of proteins, which for years was taught in school textbooks, among other places, was unscientific. It proposed not just one, but a long series of chance happenings that could never happen:
• The amino acids formed by passing a spark through the correct atmosphere would be suitable for making proteins (all the essential types, and all left-handed).
• These amino acids would come together to form an organic broth from which proteins would form.
• The first proteins, once formed, could wait millions of years for the formation of the remaining proteins necessary to form a cell.
• The ocean would allow the right proteins to concentrate in one place and not wash them apart. (Or, as some claim, the entire sea would have been filled with organic broth).7
• DNA and/or RNA would also form in nature and get together with all the necessary proteins. A cell wall would form around them.
A schoolbook stated one reason why proteins are not formed in nature outside of cells: “The energy-requiring chemical reactions that join amino acids are reversible and do not occur spontaneously in water.” Another reason is that to form proteins, the amino acids must be linked together in a particular order. Let’s use a gold chain as an analogy. Gold, like amino acids, can be found in nature, yet even though the links of most gold chains can be inserted in any order, chains made of many links of gold are never produced by the random forces of nature. Proteins are much more difficult because their amino acids must be linked together in a particular order, and that order is different for each protein. DNA not only tells the cell how to link amino acids together, but also specifies the order in which each amino acid must be linked.
Some claim that proteins can form because amino acids have a natural tendency to link up in a particular order. This idea is in error because in that case only that one protein could be produced. It is only by following the instructions in DNA that the amino acids can link in the right orders to form each of the different proteins.
Why did anyone believe that cells could evolve from proteins when not even one of the proteins of living things can be made by chance?
Yeah!
Nice cut-n-paste from Jack Chick.
http://www.chick.com/reading/books/123/123_01.asp
Okay, NWO, then where did people and puppies and pterosaurs come from?
…Uh, no offense if you don’t believe in pterosaurs.
…Or puppies. I’m not sure quite how far this goes.
I googled a sentence of his copypasta and got a book advertised on Chick.com. That would be the creator of the universally despised chick tracts.
Anything endorsed by him is guaranteed to be wrong.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
It is a proven scientific fact. A protein cannot form outside of a living cell.
Say this to yourself over and over. A protein cannot form outside a living cell.
Since this is a scientific fact, why do they teach you in school that proteins can from outside a living cell?
@Holly Pervocracy
It begins with a G and ends with a D.
Now I answered your question, you answer mine.
Can a protein form outside a living cell?
Okay, NWO, then were did things come from?
Enlighten us.
(And while we’re at it, what can I wear so you won’t rape me? I changed into my jammies–they have long sleeves and long legs and they’re baggy sweatsuit-looking jammies. Still too slutty?)
“This is just the tip of the iceberg.”
And down the crank magnetism rabbit hole we go. Hey, at least it’s more entertaining than his usual rants about women’s sartorial choices.
Why do you keep using evolutionary biology/psychology arguments on us, if you don’t even believe in evolution?
NWO, maybe you should just go back to highschool biology, or pay Holly to tutor you.
There’s a ton of genius residing here.
One question. Can a protein be formed outside a living cell. Oh yea, and it has to have actually happened in order for it to be true. No theories. No guesses. No becuase I want it to be that way. An actual, yea, here it is kind thingy.
I’m not asking for much here. Just, ya know, proof.
AND IT WANTS YOU TO BEAT PEOPLE.
Yes, proteins can form outside living cells.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
Only free amino acids formed, but they can easily join into proteins given more time and more random reactions.
NWOSlave said:
“every law enacted is your’s. Men can never out-vote women. Every law enacted is your doing.”
Oh, and I couldn’t find an article with a low enough reading level for NWO, but here’s one that references synthetic proteins–created purely by chemical reactions, not inside a living cell. (Okay, the cell uses reactions too but work with me here.)
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S29/43/27E55/index.xml?section=topstories
It begins with a G and ends with a D.
http://www.goyard.com/goyard.html
Goyard? That’s some really awesome luggage, but I don’t think it had anythign to do with abiogenesis?
Also, since I am pretending to be an anarchist, you are pretending to be a creationist.
Stop pretending you don’t want more Darwinism!!!
NWOSlave said:
“every law enacted is your’s. Men can never out-vote women. Every law enacted is your doing.”
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Okay, I’m just a person who is for some reason pretending to be an Anarchist, here, but… Do you know that laws are not made by popular vote?
Quick, NWO! How does a bill become Law?
It’s actually totally okay if you leave in “sitting here on capitol hill”, by the way.
I’M JUST A BILL HERE ON CAPITOL HILL
And now both that and Conjunction Junction will now be in my head all night. I have no regrets.
Show me a thing becoming true just because women voted on it. Don’t just give me a theory. How do laws form by popular vote outside of the legislature, excutive, or judicial “cells” as it were! SHOW ME PROOF! AS IN PROOF!
It begins with a G and ends with a D.
…Gold?
Oh wait, that’s Brandon.
@Holly Pervocracy
They cannot “easily” join. If they could why haven’t they done it? It’s so damn easy.
I asked for 1, only 1 example of protein ever forming outside a living cell in all of nature.
The link you gave shows no protein being artificially created.
Can anyone here show me a protein being created outside a living cell, either naturally or artificially. Just 1 example is all I ask.
DAMMIT I SAID HIS NAME what’s the counter?
HOW IS LAWS MADE?????
Well, you see, zhinxy, when a feminist website publishes a chart of “common signs of abuse” on its front page, that’s a law. Or when a school changes its internal disciplinary processes, that’s a law. Or when a bunch of people sign their pseudonyms to an Internet petition, that’s a law.
Laws can come from all sorts of places!
Also, you keep saying we’ll have the right to vote in NWO land, so… How will this not be the same problem, if women that MEN. CAN’T. OUT. VOTE are still running around!?
Once again, what are we voting on in there?
“Well, you see, zhinxy, when a feminist website publishes a chart of “common signs of abuse” on its front page, that’s a law. Or when a school changes its internal disciplinary processes, that’s a law. Or when a bunch of people sign their pseudonyms to an Internet petition, that’s a law.
Laws can come from all sorts of places!”
Hot damn!
Maybe THAT’S why I’m pretending to be an anarchist!
“It’s called critical thinking. I simply don’t accept what anyone tells me is a fact. Did you know that when I was in school they told me the universe was between 3.5 and 4.5 billion years old. These days we’re told it’s around 13 billion years old. Does that make me 10 billion years old? The fact, is they simply have no idea.”
Well, Holly wanted to know how NWOslave vetted new ideas. It seems that NWOslave has disbelieved everything from a young age… which must have made him hell to teach.
SURE!
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0015364
I know this has really big words, but bear with me here and try your hardest:
By “de novo,” they mean that they created proteins in the lab that do not exist in living cells.
@zhinxy
I can’t even get an answer to 1 stinkin protein ever being formed outside a living cell either naturally or artificially. Yet everyone here knows that these proteins were formed lightening rocks.
Can anyone here prove to me life was formed, (proteins the building blocs of life) by dead rocks.
Nice critical thinking folks. Click your heels three times and your facts come true.
There was a bunch of stuff in moderation; I let it all through. (Sorry I didn’t get to it sooner –was away from the internet.)
One comment on some of the pre-NWO G-D vs S—–E discussion: Yes, some of the RadFem Hub folks have said some vile things — and I will write more about this. But all the threads I went through from the AgentOrange files were like the ones I posted about.
So the question is: does AgentOrange actually believe that women getting mad at a male midwife (and mentioning BALLS) is as bad as GENOCIDE? Or is he just hoping that no one actually reads any of the files and just takes his word that they’re all awful/genocidal/etc?
NWO, if you look up, Holly has given you a citation to a real scientific journal and everything.
More big words, but check out this one, too:
http://news.illinois.edu/news/09/1210protein.html
In before NWO: “That just proves it couldn’t have happened by chance!”
Since Agent Orange is Paul Elam, probably the second. I think he’s more of a self-promoter who wants to get bigots and conspiracy theorists stirred up than he’s a sincere conspiracy-bigot himself.
I once made up my own little ditty to the tune of “I’m Just a Bill” after dealing with some particularly obnoxious guys and reading about all the online harassment female bloggers get. It starts out:
I’m just a bitch,
Yes, I’m only a bitch,
Just a hag, a fag, a whore, and a witch…
Maybe one day I’ll come up with the rest of it.
When you hear a MRA whining about how horrible and Nazi-like the radfems are, keep in mind their forum only has around 50 members. All this proves is that AVfM is made up of pathetic bullies.
You want to see a real messageboard? Here you go, but warning, it’s not safe for work or life:
http://www.deadskirts.com/superboard/
Over 32,000 people fantasize about killing women. Isn’t that fucking sick?
I don’t support doxxing them either, because I’m smart enough to know most of them are harmless. It’s not worth exposing ‘innocent’ perverts in order to stop the small,small minority of dangerous posters. I feel the same way about feminists, NO MATTER HOW RADICAL.
God, MRAs who support Agent Orange are so dumb.