AgentOrange and the Screencaps of Feminazi Doom
Santa is no longer interested in bringing joy to girls.
Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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Posted on December 22, 2011, in antifeminism, creepy, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, misandry, misogyny, MRA, none dare call it conspiracy, oppressed men, paul elam, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 643 Comments.
Speaking of pain, my sister is currently experiencing a headache that has lasted for over a month and which is so severe that she’s been subjected to a number of medical tests (CT scan, MRI, MRA, MRV, spinal tap) to make sure that she doesn’t have a brain tumor or something else godawful. She doesn’t, thankfully, but in the mean time they haven’t found a way to stop the pain.
But hey, how can we really tell she’s in agony, right? I might just tell her as much when she comes home for Christmas, and then end up in intensive care for saying something so fucking stupid to a person in agony.
@ozymandias42
Dont’cha mean seasons greetings or happy holidays. Christians are bad. The faith america loves to mock. The only faith that’s acceptable to ridicule.
So in your world, the answer is just make sure everyone is as miserable as humanly possible, especially if they’re women but also if they’re men who aren’t you.
I’d ask if you were a real life super-villain, but villainy would involve getting off your ass and doing something, so clearly you’re not.
@Lauralot
Put a drop of vanilla extract on her tongue.
Can’t they both get pain relief?
What is it with you (and not just you in this case, a lot of MRAs) seeing some perceived injustice and then wanting it to be terrible for both sides? Is that your idea of fair?
Man gets beaten? BEAT WOMEN!
Man doesn’t get a job? WOMEN SHOULDN’T HAVE JOBS!
Man gets threatened? THREATEN WOMEN!
There’s just no conception that it’s possible for no one to be miserable and that the ultimate aim of an equality movement should be to make things better for everyone. Women have too many privileges? Okay, let’s not take them away, let’s give men those privileges. Why can’t you conceive of this?
@Lauralot
Hey, I demanded the rest of the year off, and I’ve been sleeping till noon. They really couldn’t refuse.
The difference, NWO, is that no one is telling the dude with the gut would that it’s his moral duty as a male to endure it without pain-reducing drugs.
When I was a kid I was at my neighbor’s softball game when he, the pitcher, got nailed in the groin with a line drive. He dropped like a rock and was in so much pain he couldn’t even speak. They had to take him off the field on a stretcher and rush him to the hospital, while his mother was in tears.
If some woman on that field had suggested he shouldn’t receive pain relief because you know, at some point every person with testicles is going to feel the undeniably intense pain of injuring one, she would have utterly horrified every single sane person there. And probably provoked a very, very negative response from his mother.
I don’t think there would have been a lot of nodding heads and apologists. We could all plainly see that he was suffering immensely and in need of immediate medical attention, including pain relief. You know what that’s called? Empathy.
Lauralot – I hope your sister gets better soon. *hugs to her, unless hugs make the headache worse, in that case sympathetic looks from a respectful distance*
NWO, one big reason women are urged to forgo pain relief during childbirth is that some
misogynists want women to be punished for “Eve’s sin”. In the past, people thought it was sinful to give pain medication to women in labor because it would “go against God’s will”. I’ve also heard secular arguments against epidurals, too, but some of them are also misogynistic. I admit I do not know what it feels like to be kicked in the testicles, because I am a cis women. That’s irrelevant to the fact that I have been through childbirth, and I know that it hurt like hell.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Man gets beaten? BEAT WOMEN!
Man doesn’t get a job? WOMEN SHOULDN’T HAVE JOBS!
Man gets threatened? THREATEN WOMEN!”
And???
By law.
Man, by merit get’s education. Woman given State assistance.
Man, by merit gets job. Woman gets State quota.
Man is hit by woman. State sends man to jail if he retaliates.
Isn’t this enough.
Thanks. I’m happy to know she doesn’t have a tumor, but the fact that she’s still in such agony is terrible.
I’ve been looking up everything I can think of about any possible condition or remedy and sending it her way.
It is not like there is some kind of terrible pain reliever shortage! We have enough to give pain relievers to BOTH the people giving birth AND the people with gaping abdominal wounds! And also people with, like, stomach cramps and shit!
NWO: I’m an atheist and I go more all-out for Christmas than almost anyone I know: presents for everyone I love, multiple Nativities, an extensive collection of obscure Christmas music, charitable donations, lights throughout the house, and of course several trees (one large and three or four small). Because guess what? You don’t have to believe in God to like a traditional family holiday! Does that just blow your tiny mind?
Wait, giving pain relief to people who are in pain is somehow controversial now?
I never understood that whole “labor (or even menstrual) pain is natural, so it’s good and you shouldn’t take pain killers” notion. When someone experiences a spinal disc herniation, the pain they experience is also natural, so what gives?
NWO, do you realize that women are people? That they actually can and do feel pain, and aren’t just putting up a show to get attention?
@Anti-MRA:
I assume W.F Price is the head of The Spearhead, because he writes almost all the articles, but I could be wrong. You can read about him here
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/how-i-became-a-deadbeat-dad/
@Lauralot
Put a drop of vanilla extract on her tongue.
How many times do I have to say it.
Actually, affirmative action benefits men on the college level, because of how few men are attending college.
Guess who has a problem with that?
If these things were true, they’d be terrible, because:
Everyone should have the opportunity for higher education.
Everyone should have a fair chance at a job.
No one should hit anyone.
NOT BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEATEN.
I know you’ll pretend not to understand because you take pride in glorifying your own stupidity, but I really hope some bit of this penetrates your dumb ass skull.
Do you have empirical studies proving that scratching your balls hurts?
This is precisely where you and I differ. I say, if a person is screaming in pain and is obviously in distress, give him or her the fucking drugs, without examining whether someone has it worse. And denying women in childbirth pain relief on the ground that women MUST suffer just ’cause is disgusting and it is misogyny.
That has nothing to do with anything. No one should have to endure any kind of pain needlessly. And the fact that you view it as some kind of contest tells me you don’t know what severe pain feels like.
[blockquote]Do you have statistics on the male/female ration in the medical field?[/blockquote]
It’s nearing 50/50 according to this: https://www.aamc.org/download/75776/data/aibvol5no2.pdf
[blockquote]Sure do. Do you? Do you think because a coupla a dozen men control the wealth of the world any of that translates into wealth and power for men as a whole? Feminists lobbied for that give-away. It’s your world ladies. Tyranny of the majority. Since women are the majority, (the disposable male), every law enacted is your’s. Men can never out-vote women. Every law enacted is your doing.[/blockquote]
Not quite but it would seem more women are registered to vote and do actually vote than men. At least, on average.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womencensus1.html
See the voting section.
[blockquote]We used to live in a civilized society but no more, the “spare the rod spoil the child” motto has been replaced by feminist ideology. Marriage is dead, God has been killed, the State is our moral authority.[/blockquote]
I find it interesting that you believe that not using physical violence on our children has ruined them. Does this apply only to the female children?
As god was never alive I have a hard time believing he’s been killed. Care to cite your sources on that one? Fair’s fair after all.
@NWOSlave: I mentioned the vanilla to her. I really doubt that a drop of vanilla is going to do what ER pain meds wouldn’t, but I did pass the suggestion on.
@Kollege Messerschmitt
” Wait, giving pain relief to people who are in pain is somehow controversial now?
I never understood that whole “labor (or even menstrual) pain is natural”
It’s natural because it’s basically part of that cycle. As in part of nature. The term “natural” in the context doesn’t derive from misogyny. Sometimes, on rare occasions, everything isn’t about women being victims of the bad mans evil ways.
@Lauralot
Couldn’t hurt.
I can’t believe this thread has degenerated into “women shouldn’t get pain relief, because men experience pain.”
Seriously.
What?
Yeah, hence why I told her about it.
New rule: No one typing on a computer connected to the Internet gets to claim they make their decisions based on what’s “natural.”
I kind of want to try whatever NWO is smoking.
It’s just pounds upon pounds of weed, laced with hatred.
and maybe some embalming fluid
MRAL: I don’t. I value my brain cells in their current arrangement.
NWO: Pain hurts. Hurty things are bad. We should make bad things go away if we can. We can make pain go away. Therefore, pain relief for everyone who needs it!
Possibly PCP? That tends to make people mean.
Doesn’t PCP also make people basically immune to pain?
I just assumed he was Larfleeze.
And by the way, I think I’ve discovered NWOslave’s true identity.
@Timid Atheist
“As god was never alive I have a hard time believing he’s been killed. Care to cite your sources on that one? Fair’s fair after all.”
I have as much proof that God is alive as you have that he isn’t. You believe that a bunch of rocks got banged around a coupla billion years ago and wrote the millions of different DNA codes for each of the millions of different species. If that’s your belief. Fine. It ain’t mine.
Well, pain builds character, as Calvin’s dad would say.
Hell yes Larfleeze.
In other news I just tried the vanilla thing because I currently have a headache, and I would just like to say that vanilla does not taste nearly as good as it smells.
fuck yes, i was thinking just earlier about olwslaves ‘rock made biology’ diatribe
@ozymandias42
“NWO: Pain hurts. Hurty things are bad. We should make bad things go away if we can. We can make pain go away. Therefore, pain relief for everyone who needs it!”
I agree. I was just debunking the lies she wrote. No one here questioned anything she wrote because it either emphazised misogyny, which was non-existant, or portrayed women as victims.
Owly I… I thought you said God was killed.
How is he alive if he just got killed?
Be honest: is God a zombie?
Didn’t NWO claim earlier that men have to rape women because evolution?
He’s a complicated man.
I think NWOslave just doesn’t believe childbirth is that painful. Or at least, not as painful as an abdominal wound.
We should use NWO as the mark of wrongness. I honestly think he may be the wrongest person on the planet. Every single belief in his head seems to be factually incorrect, it’s quite an achievement if you look at it that way.
Horrible lies like… one person screaming in agony hurts more than the other person screaming in agony, because the second person has a vagina? o.o
I think we should all get together and form the “Pain is Bad and Beating People is Bad and Maybe We Should All Just Make S’mores Together and Be Awesome” club.
I was going to call it “The Human Fund,” but it turns out that’s already taken.
Count me in. I’ll bring marshmallows.
@ozymandias42
Too funny dear. You know what I meant about killing God, It’s part of the communist, and also part of the feminist manfiesto. Destroy the family and spiritual faith in God, transfer the wealth to the State. The State becomes the defacto moral authority.
Lauralot – I will join that club! I will bring marshmallows!
Wait, do they make vegetarian marshmallows? Maybe we can have a baking party before the s’more party. I know how to make snow into candy!
…I don’t understand why people love to debate with NWO. He never really responds, or if he does, it’s just the same old material seemingly copy-and-pasted from earlier posts, bearing only a tangential relationship to whatever he actually quoted.
David K. Meller is far more fun and intelligent than this boring dumbass.
@Ozy
Oh darn. Ninjaed. I’ll bring graham crackers.
Are there vegan marshmallows?
Are marshmallows not vegan? I just realized I have no idea what they’re made of.
Vegan marshmallows!
http://www.sweetandsara.com/
I was just off googling recipes. Thanks for the link, Holly!
Regular marshmallows have gelatin (made from animal… let’s go with “parts”) so they are not vegetarian, kosher, or vegan.
Excellent, I had no idea they were made with gelatin.
Im shocked- SHOCKED!- that NWO’s understanding of how evidence works is as bad as his understanding of, well, everything else.
Again, so much wrong with so little effort. It’s like he’s a ninja of bullshit. Lazy bullshit, too.
MRAL, most people don’t debate NWO so much as point at him and laugh, I think. Now I personally agree that Meller is more fun to poke fun at, which is why I tend to pay more attention to him than to NWO, but hey, each to their own.
For some people who do seriously debate him though I think it’s because they think he might actually go out and hurt someone at some point, whereas Meller has clearly resigned himself to a life of wanking to his dolls and posting rants on the internet only.
Fluffy hot dogs, in other words. :)
Fun fact – I have never eaten a hot dog after seeing a documentary about how they’re made.
Plus, I think some of us are masochists and talking to NWO is an extension of that. ‘How hard can he make me facepalm today’ and all that.
Oooo… I missed this jem:
Remember; beating children with sticks is more civilized than raising and nurturing them to be thoughtful and critical thinkers.
“Children are the only minority that becomes their oppressors.”
~Solomon Short
I debate NWO for the same reason I scratch mosquito bites.
I know it won’t help, I know I’m not supposed to, but he makes my brain itch.
Mmmm… tea, hot from Russell’s Tea Pot.
With his complete lack of understanding of the concept of consent, I wouldn’t be surprised if he raped or sexually assaulted somebody in his life. That said, I personally doubt he’s ever gotten close enough to a woman to actually go through with it. The way he talks about “teasing” reads to me like observation from a distance rather than first-hand experience.
@Leni
“Again, so much wrong with so little effort. It’s like he’s a ninja of bullshit. Lazy bullshit, too.”
Well than explain it to me.
Everything has a different DNA code. Each is seperate and distinct. You could also explain where all the rocks and stuff came from as well.
Doesn’t the theory go something like all the matter in the universe was the size of a pea and kinda expanded and stuff like that.
Where’d that matter come from?
Why’d it expand?
How’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?
Why doesn’t it do it anymore?
As far as I know, new life ain’t popping up in the oceans and stuff. How come?
Pretty much everyhing NWO writes reads as if he’s The Man Who Fell To Earth on a really evil combination of acid and PCP.
NWO, you really need to go back to school. Like, starting with kindergarten when you learn to share your toys and not hit. After that there’s first grade and they’ll get you up to speed on reading and writing. Second grade you’ll learn about different languages and the countries of the world! Third grade: basic math and percentages! In fourth grade they’ll teach you to spell.
By the time you’re in fifth grade or so you’ll be able to start understanding the answers to questions like “how’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?”
Anyway, this answers NWO’s question about “why isn’t new life forming today?”
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB020.html
Evidence for why we don’t have superdogs, however, continues to elude scientists, with many of them simply claiming “But Buddy is a superdog, isn’t that right Buddywuddy?” while ruffling their dog’s ears.
@Holly Pervocracy
Not true, Holly. Now a days you’re taught the new math, than you’re taught the old math. Then you chooses which style of math suits you.
I know the “theory” which was taught. Or is it fact? You do know the difference?