Homeless girls: A frugal alternative to pricey prostitutes!
Fellas! Want sex, but don’t have the money to shell out on prostitutes? Hate the time and effort it takes to talk a non-professional sex-having women into having sex with you? A recent post by Advocatus Diaboli on the always delightful In Mala Fide offered an elegant solution for horny but frugal men. In a post titled Pooning on a Tight Budget, AD explained the technique that has worked for him:
Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with [you] in return for some timely financial help.
Turns out that women who are poor and desperate can be exploited for your own sexy purposes!
Of course, it’s not always quite as easy as it might seem.
I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.
According to AD, all you have to do is to:
Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.
Happily for you, that still leaves lots of girls ripe for the picking! AD suggests you focus your attention on:
Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.
The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.
You might not think you’d have much in common to talk about with these women – what with them being “reasonably decent human beings” and you being a “completely reprehensible pile of shit” – but you’d be surprised.
Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).
And if you crunch the numbers you’ll see it’s really quite a frugal solution.
Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..
But girls don’t necessarily have to be literally homeless to be desperate enough to sleep with you for money. Nope! You may also find great cost-savings from targeting:
Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.
How do you find these lovely ladies? Keep an eye out for women working really shitty jobs that don’t pay shit! You’ll find them conveniently located
in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.
Yep, it turns out that even desperate women can be creeped out. So play it cool! Stalking’s for fools!
There’s another possible hurdle: other dudes.
Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?
Just remember to keep to your budget!
Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.
And then there’s AD’s favorite category of desperate women:
Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.
You have hit the jackpot!
Just don’t get carried away. Remember: you’re in charge, and she should know it!
Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.
Your accountant will be so, so proud of you!
Just remember:
They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.
Now that’s a motto to live by!
Amazingly, not all of the readers of In Mala Fide appreciated AD’s little treatise.
Simon invoked the c-word, before tossing in some racism:
Mate you are one deadset sad cunt. It’s no surprise to know you’re Indian.
Cathater broke out the other c-word:
Pretty damn creepy. You sound like you have no soul. Actually, you might be the first member of a new species: the perfectly rational, purely selfish utility-maximizing agent (Homo Economicus) that Austrian economists and Randroids have always droned on and on about.
Yes, I was as surprised as you are to read an actually reasonable critique of the post on In Mala Fide.
Don’t worry, though, the rest of the comments mostly lived up to the foul standards of the blog.
Ryu worried about the old slippery slope. If you start by suggesting that PUAs target homeless women, the next thing you know they’ll advocate sex with children! And then down the slippery slope you’ll slide:
This is the direction that PU takes one in. I’m surprised that there haven’t been any PUAs who say that during a dry spell we should go to gay bars and pick up men. Just to keep your dick wet, you know.
Savrola returned to the theme of race:
There’s a problem WNs have yet to deal with. Well off second-generation foreigners like AD taking advantage of your impoverished women of older native stock, after they’ve taken your jobs.
Can’t keep ‘em here, can’t send ‘em back.
What to do?
Blog proprietor Ferdinand Bardamu waded in to take a shot at all the “white knights” sticking up for the gals.
ROFLMAO at all these white knights. …
If you want to blame someone, blame the morally debased white women who would rather blow a stranger for $200 then work honestly (pull yourself up by your bootstraps, slob! nobody owes you anything!).
We’re living in Soviet Amerika (and Soviet Kanada). All of your daughters are whores or will become whores, soon as the price tag gets high enough.
Meanwhile, Stoner With a Boner, who sometimes graces the comments section here with his always trenchant wisdom, took a stand on behalf of the real victims here: dudes paying their own hard-earned money to icky ladies for sex.
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading.
Men, the forgotten victims once again.
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Posted on December 20, 2011, in $MONEY$, crackpottery, creepy, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, PUA, racism, rapey, reactionary bullshit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 602 Comments.
“Haha, Sharculese, I used to date a B__don. (I mean, a guy named that, not a guy like that.) He was a nice guy, and the name always gives me a little dissonance.”
I dated one of those too. Spelled differently though.
Often when arguin with B__don i’ll slip up and spell the name like my ex’s because the pattern of circular logic and goalpost moving is *exactly the same*.
i think there’s some confusion, so to clarify, the professor i’m talking about literally went by b. don. he was from arkansas, it was short for billy don (sort of).
That’s an awesome name.
Kavette – Your awesome acts of helping formerly homeless men will not register to NWO. I think we have a 99 percent chance he will just ignore you. If he acknowledges it at all, I think he’ll say something about how all the men have to be profeminist, or that unlike his amazing inventions, it’s just you making up stuff on the internet.
“My apartment building receives no government funding so I we are not under the radar of government guidelines”
He will also possibly claim that you are lying about this. I know it sounds weird, but he recently told me to stop pretending I don’t want more government, so my guess is he will go for it and say you’re lying.
Holly, my respect for you grows every day.
Instructions for how to get women who don’t want to fuck you to actually fuck you as cheaply as possible? Almost the definition of a sad, pathetic loser: Not only can you not get a woman to fuck you without paying her, you can’t even afford the modest price required to hire a legitimate professional. I can see why you’re so bitter given your station in life, but women aren’t your problem.
Kavette, you and Kave live in Toronto, right? If so I think your apartment building is on my street!
Holly – when you’re in a terrible situation sometimes all you have is a selection of shitty choices. It sounds like you picked the least shitty choice possible. I’m glad it worked out OK :)
Kavette I applaud your efforts in helping homeless men, your decision to allow those with sexual convictions into your apartment block must have been a hard one. Homeless charities and those that help the homeless have my absolute respect. The recent St mungo’s charity report on the state of homeless support in my country is shameful and highlights the need for what you are doing.
link http://www.mungos.org/press_office/1002_battered-broken-bereft-new-rough-sleeping-report
@NWO – So you’d rather die than have sex with someone who repulses you, who’s taking advantage of your poverty to use you as a sex toy. It’s true, having survival sex is horrible – something no one should have to go through.
Oh wait, some of your other comments seem to contradict this position. Are you really sure that you don’t consider it a viable option for yourself? What about doing it out of gratitude for the kindness of the man (or woman) who offers you some food, shelter, or cash in exchange? If you’re a young, reasonably attractive guy, then you’re lucky to have those opportunities – they’re not available to everyone, you know. Older, less attractive people have to turn to crime or panhandling to get by. Are you sure that you wouldn’t want to offer a nice BJ to a businessman who was prepared to, with his hard-earned money, buy you an entire meal at Wendy’s?
savagebeard – That would be evil sodomy. So no. It would be okay for him to sleep with a woman for that, but that is PREPOSTEROUS, because it would NEVER happen that a woman would sleep with a man in exchange for giving him food, cash or shelter. probably be okay for a woman to sleep with a man for the same thing though, cause hetero sex with men women don’t really want to sleep with, usually in exchange for for goods and services, is just the nature and purpose of women.
Kavette, now you’ve got me suspecting that by “swear allegiance to feminism” NWO means “don’t be a sex offender.” (Also, that’s a wonderful thing for you to do.)
Welcome to the world people! Where people exploit people for fun and profit………
I thought of this idea long before it was posted on any blogs. No reason why rich gay men couldn’t do this very same thing with homeless men(preferably younger men). But if I were homeless I’d rather be dead than be a punk to some rich gay guy! I doubt you’d have much luck with women who are poor but employed, TBH. ANNNNNNNNNND, lest we forget, she could always accuse you of rape!(this would so not work if the homeless person was male though) Even if she agreed to sleep with you for food/shelter/clothing/spending cash.
But ladies, it’s up to YOU to have the self-respect to refuse to barter sex for money; even if you’re desperate(as in homeless).
Shut the hell up and stop defining other people’s self respect. Sex workers are fine at respecting themselves without your approval, dumb ass. Have the self respect to stop trolling for attention.
Om Nom Nom, can it. How about these dudes have the self-respect not to prey on women in a tight spot?
So if I respected myself, I would have died at 16.
Lotta good that’d do me. Or anyone else! I went on to become an EMT and work in an ER, and I’ve helped thousands of sick and injured people because I lived past 16. I think I can take some self-respect from that.
Y’know this “it’s up to you” shit about women’s behavior really burns my bacon. Or hot butters my manatee, if you will.
It’s always up to us, and it’s getting really fucking old.
I was kinda being sarcastic, Zhinxy.
What I’m saying is that if you are female, homeless, and not a sex worker nor wish to be one, but you sleep with a man in exchange for him boarding you for a night or 2 and giving you food/clothes/money and THEN have regrets and then try to blame him for what you agreed to do, then you’re just a crybaby. I AM NOT vilifying sex workers, I’m trying to advocate personal responsibility which means not blaming others when you willingly do something with them that you wish you hadn’t.
Ha ha ha, he even threw in the ol’ “any time a man and a woman have sex, she false-rape-accuses him” thing.
I don’t know what a rich woman would have to gain by false-accusing a homeless man, but hey. Just have to remember to keep pushing that story in your pathetic attempt to silence and cast doubt on rape survivors.
I find it darkly humerous that the commenters on In Mala Fide find the OP offensive not because it’s wrong, but because its misogyny transgresses against their racism. Still kills a little bit more of my faith in humanity, though.
Om Nom, what do false allegations have to do with anything? Oh, right, nothing.
Especially because Owly and Sans Nom here seem to be eager to prove that there really is a place to go that’s uglier than the OP.
Nom’s idea of a woman’s (or girl’s) “choice” reminds me of those Saw movies. Oh sure, you’re locked in a dungeon with a chain around your leg, but you have only yourself to blame if you make some wacky decision to HURT yourself! That was your totally free choice!
It’s your own fault you didn’t pursue your perfectly viable “starve to death” and “go to jail” options.
Mr. Futrelle,
If your gonna quote me, have the integrity to quote the whole post:
Stoner With a Boner December 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm
“Are my ideas any more “reprehensible” or “inhumane” than game? If not- then please shut up.
Otherwise tell me what makes them more “unacceptable”??
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading….
I also find the idea of paying some dickhead like roissy or roosh money to learn game degrading.
If the MRM wants to be anything more than a bunch of pathetic whiners, they should advocate the idea that a male is more than a fucking walking atm machine–the only addendum I’ll ad is that if you do make a baby with someone, you should be paying for said baby until they are 18.
Oh, for fuck’s fucking sake.
BTW, I take being called trenchant as a compliment even though it was probably meant in sarcasm…
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: keen, sharp
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: vigorously effective and articulate ; also : caustic
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a : sharply perceptive : penetrating b : clear-cut, distinct
That’s a very poor analogy. Agreeing to have sex with someone in exchange for money is hardly comparable to having to lose a limb. Once again, I am not talking about anyone accusing anyone of any sort of CRIME here. I’m talking about the OP absolving the woman of any responsibility for agreeing to do something which he considers to be exploitative and that she might have hard feelings about afterwards.
David, look what your boi Savrola said about me:
Savrola December 8, 2011 at 9:46 am
Stoner you are a walk/blogging arguement against miscegenation, so don’t knock yourself out.
haha,
I think I responded well in comments 37 and 76….
trenchant indeed….
Entering into a contractual labor agreement in which any party is under duress is questionable at best, and personal responsibility also falls upon those paying to take note of such duress. That’s straight from glibertarian ethics land, ffs.
Isn’t standard glibertarian ethics “if a business practice is unethical, expose and boycott it”?
Not “if a business practice is unethical, oh well.”
fyi, being cynical and sarcastic doesn’t make you look clever. it just makes you look like every other teenage try-hard on the internet. but most of your comments do that so i’m not sure why i singled out this one.
quoting a dictionary definition to prove a ‘point’. the lamest response anybody can have to anything.
Because being a prostitute means you’re also a bad person?
Sorry, I know two professional doms and also have several male friends that sometimes avail themselves of prostitutes and if these are the quality of people you are finding, perhaps the local drug park isn’t where you should be looking for women.
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The thing that’s so dumb about this is that they think other people don’t know they are slimeballs. I used to work a job like the one they described and in a store where I was alone. After having moved to a new city, no less. If this jackass thinks he’s the first guy to think about creeping around store clerks because they are essentially captive and *have* to be nice to you, he has apparently never worked in retail.
Things like dignity and self-respect can be luxuries if you are on the edge of starvation or don’t have a secure place to sleep or are starting to go through heroin withdrawal. I don’t see why any person has to literally sacrifice their life in the name of some ridiculous social norm of “honor”. Actually, I would say someone who is willing to make difficult decisions to stay alive or to remove themselves from an abusive situation (like Holly) potentially has more self-respect than somebody who says, “Sleeping behind a dumpster??? Ew! I guess I’ll just keel over and die!” It means they value staying alive and that they haven’t totally given up yet– that they have respect for their own life– which is definitely something given the hardships homeless people and the very poor have to face
I want to second all the hugs to Holly, that is a really rough thing to go through, and I am very glad you are out of there and doing well.
I won’t go too much into it but I had a somewhat similar situation happen to me in college; luckily I never had to resort to anything like survival sex, and I wasn’t ever truly homeless. I also went to college early, and my mother, although not quite as abusive as yours, is an extremely anxious person who tends to have weird blow-ups every so often. I got so frightened of her my senior year of college that I ended up basically living on campus for weeks at a time. By “living on campus” I mean sleeping behind dorm couches, washing in academic building bathrooms, and stealing food from fridges. I got so sick of the non-safety of that (couldn’t sleep due to being scared about getting assaulted by drunk kids) that I got over any pride I had left and lived in a professor’s lab that I had keys to for my last month. (I did go home occasionally at weird hours, typically the morning before my mom woke up, to get new clothes or a jar of peanut butter or something.)
Though I wasn’t living on the streets or anything, and I was definitely privileged in that I 1. technically could have returned to a home and 2. could take advantage of a fancy college’s infrastructure, I gained 100x more respect for homeless people. I have no idea how they can deal with the sleeping thing or the constant and repetitive indignity of having to scrounge for food. It is an eternally frightening life and the most horrible part of it to me was that it turns your life into something more akin to an animal’s than a person’s. Your entire life gets compressed down into trying to find opportunities to get food, shelter, warmth, etc. The idea of anyone taking advantage of a person in that sort of situation is completely sickening in ways I don’t even know how to begin to articulate.
Anyway, again, thank you for sharing that, Holly, and I am so happy for you that things worked out eventually.
comment #32 was extremely insightful, I’m surprised Mr. Futrelle didn’t quote it….
a, well, I guess it wasn’t past of his “agenda.”
making fun of assholes? it might not have been.
Isn’t standard glibertarian ethics “if a business practice is unethical, expose and boycott it”?
Not “if a business practice is unethical, oh well.”
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Yup. It’s a terrible abdication of personal responsibility, though.
Also that is exactly why No-Name can go stick his head in a toilet, because he clearly doesn’t understand the choices you have to make when the entire structure of a normal life disappears out from under you. It is a lot more like Saw than you would think, bro. You never really get to “agree” to do anything– you just go in whatever direction that can ease your fear a little bit.
the glibertarian argument usually ends up closer to ‘if the business practice is unethical, the market would have already exposed it. the fact that it hasn’t proves your concerns are invalid.’
see the totally idiotic response to the nebulous state of the new lightbulb standards john cole quotes here:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/12/19/worst-of-both-worlds/
Kladle – *hugs* and I’m glad you’re out of there.
And I just want to repeat this because yeah, that’s what it’s like. (I ran away a few times total, although I only had survival sex the one time, so I’ve spent a few months altogether on the run while under 18.) It’s not like being an independent businessperson calmly considering a decision.
When “self-respect” is down to “I’m going to eat strangers’ leftovers out of the trash, but not the ones with bite marks,” it’s ridiculous to get on the glibertarian high horse and act like survival sex is exactly the same thing as a rich homed kid taking a part-time job for some extra cash.
Then again, these are the same guys who would claim to never understand why someone would run away from just emotional abuse, because can’t you just ignore it? They like to think they’ve evolved far beyond petty human emotions.
I don’t for an instant believe you can know this about yourself. Sex makes me feel deeply, deeply vulnerable and I will only share it with people I know very well, who I feel I can trust. I do not trust easily.
But I’ve also lived a very privileged life. I’ve never been on the streets. I’ve never wondered where my next meal might come from. I’ve never worried about freezing in the cold all by myself. I have never had to make a choice between doing something I don’t want to do and fucking dying, and I get the impression that you haven’t either. How the fuck could either of us possibly know how we would react?
i’ve never been homeless but that always struck me as one of the most degrading parts of it, so if i see someone going through the trash like that i’ll always be like ‘you shouldnt have to do that, can i give you some money’
Holly, honey, so many hugs.
The interesting thing about that story in relation to the OP though is that I’m willing to bet that most of the dudes commenting in that thread would read Holly’s story and argue that in fact she was exploiting the older guy rather than the other way around.
Sharculese – I’m sure the quote is some fun silliness from Reason, but John Cole gets my blood way up when he talks about even non-glib libbers so I’m not gonna click XD
It’s always *quotes libertarian making stupid argument.* Has good point about the argument being stupid. See, this is why they should go move to libertarian fantasy land and leave us normal people alone and aren’t they stupid yes they are and meanwhile. He’s one of those liberals for whom libertarians function as both running joke and boogeyman. We’re ridiculously irrelevant, yet somehow there’s always a danger we’ll get our way.
lol, i can appreciate that. in his defense, he is a late life convert and an ex-27 percenter, so i understand why he gets so aggressive.
it was reason. and one of the second-stringers, not even gillespie or welch:
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE POSTS ENDS!
in all fairness, i think you can agree that nick gillespie should go live somewhere where he doesnt bother the rest of us, right?
he is a late life convert and an ex-27 percenter, so i understand why he gets so aggressive.
Yup. Still, I’ve learned to just let him be. And if I COULD move to libertarian unicorn land, I totally WOULD! XD
If legislators, regulators, environmentalists, and even the industry all agree this mandate is a good idea, why would consumers object? Maybe because the whole premise of the policy is that their choices do not matter because they are too stupid to know their own interests.
AH! I read that one. I think that was Sullum. Yeah, he’s pretty head-desk inducing.
“THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE POSTS ENDS!”
\HAHAHHAHA.
“in all fairness, i think you can agree that nick gillespie should go live somewhere where he doesnt bother the rest of us, right?”
Oh, totally. . I think we should tell him he won the right to be in a special secret smart people panel to develop the future of freedom. On an island.
Actually, since Balko left, I think we can and probably should do that with the whole Reason staff. Hmm.
Wow, what a fucking vile piece of shit. Just the knowledge that a guy who put that much thought into ways he could take advantage of homeless girls exists makes me feel violently ill. And if even MRAs think he’s creepy, you know he’s gotta be bad.
Even evil has standards, after all.
Holly and Kladle: I’m so sorry you had to go through this. You have my utmost respect; not only for surviving those situations, but also for talking about them in the presence of sociopaths like NWO and Mr. Om Nom Nom.
*offers hugs*
I honestly don’t understand the attitude of people like MSN. “The world is bad and people use each other, so I don’t give a shit about others! That’s life lololol suck it up.”
I don’t know if you think it makes you look edgy and mature (it doesn’t), but I guess it’s other people’s fault for, i dunno, being so stupid to choose to be born less privileged than you? I mean, they should just grow a thicker skin, amirite?
Seriously dude, just go back to 4chan.
” I remember the shitty landlord who offered me a couple of month’s free rent if I’d promise to be enthusiastic and discreet. Because he was married, you see. ”
One of mine once knocked on my door and, when I opened it, randomly grabbed my crotch. Not only was he married, he was my friend’s father. He stood there and banged on the door for a while after I shut it in his face, and didn’t leave until I yelled at him that I was going to tell the daughter.
Actually, since Balko left, I think we can and probably should do that with the whole Reason staff. Hmm.
i was holding out for the possibility there was some unknown writing for them who wasnt pure glibertarian asshole, but if there isn’t, ya, basically.
Oh, totally. . I think we should tell him he won the right to be in a special secret smart people panel to develop the future of freedom. On an island.
also that they have really good deals on leather
@Cassandra: Yech! What a creep! What the hell gives him the right to randomly grab someones genitals? Weirdo.
CassandraSays:
The fuck? That’s seriously not okay. Sorry you had to deal with such an asshole… and from what you said, I guess it’s not that unreasonable to think that he did the same to others too, urgh…
*hugs Holly*
NWO, you honestly do have my sympathy; no one should be forced to choose between crime and food. I’m glad you’re in a better place in your life now.
I am so lucky that I have never had to have sex for food or lodging. :/ Little things to give thanks for…
It’s all clear as day: They struggle to score a woman. They can not. They are undesirable. They are whiners. They are lazy. They are emotionally immature. They talk bad about women yet their lives revolve around how to score a woman. Hippocrates. They are obsessed with women. Women control their lives more than the average dude. Myself included. Heck, I’m gay and even I wouldn’t touch these sour grapes with a ten foot pool. What I don’t get is why they think women are so powerful? Women have a laundry list of issues they got to contend with in life. Women got a laundry list of things that “aren’t FAIR” but you don’t see them letting life’s unfairness bring them down. Those MRA folks are too easily controlled. They are just too dang obsessed with women. For some reason, women make them feel inferior. If all women were extinct, they would have nothing left to do with their time.
I’m willing to bet he did similar things to all the female tenants, since they all went out of their way to avoid him. He also once tried to get me to open the bathroom door while I was taking a bath because he “needed to talk” to me. I was 18 and new to the city – noticing a theme here? According to the OP I was a perfect target, guess I must be a real bitch for not going along with it.
Dues, it’s a sign of weakness – to let someone control you. Why let strangers intrude upon your valuable time? Hell, I got some serious beef with the union and some of the dudes that run my local chapter. But I sure as hell aint’ going to spend my time complaining about them. To be sure folks, everybody has to deal with things that are unfair so what makes these MRA’s think they are the only ones dealing with things unfair? How much you want to bet it isn’t “women” that makes them so depressed. I got a funny feeling these men got issues with just about everything and every body in life. If not women, they would be complaining about rich men or something.
Why can’t they find happiness like other men can? Why can’t they find peace like other men can? Why can’t they find fulfillment like other men can?
Hey MRA’s: how come you’re so miserable? You can’t find happiness yet billions other men can. What’s wrong with all of you boys?
Ha! bobbyjo, you’re asking all the right questions in all the wrong places =P
Bobbyjo, I think that MRA’s get off on feeling sorry for themselves. They are throwing a big pity party and pouting because most people want nothing to do with it. Others like to list MRA talking points and think that gives them a free pass to be an asshole. NWOSlave is a good example of that type of MRA.
I’d imagine that in places where prostitution is explicitly illegal and criminalized(which AFAIK is throughout the US except the state of Nevada and previously Rhode Island until ’09), offering financial assistance to a homeless person in exchange for sex could be technically considered “soliciting sex” and one could end up being charged for doing such a thing. I’m 100% sure that this issue is not unknown to the authorities, homeless advocates, and women’s advocacy groups. But yeah, I mean it’s hard to argue against the notion that someone who barters sex for money with someone who’s homeless/penniless, a drug addict, or otherwise desperate is a total sleaze. Trouble is, a lot of people in this world are like that and there ain’t much you can do about it.
FYI, I’m a fairly cynical person in general and not just on the internet(especially IRL). And when I was a teenager I was actually quite the opposite. Idealism: I mock it. :-P
lol. there is nothing except total idealism and kneejerk cynicism. life has not the slightest bit of nuance.
so you decided to cleave to juvenile simplicity later in life? i’m not sure why you’re proud of that? a pseudo-intellectual try-hard is a pseudo-intellectual try-hard, no matter how he strives to dress it up.
“later in life, i discovered i could throw off any sort of detailed analysis by appealing to platitudes like ‘life is essentially transactional’. this makes me not dumb and lazy because… um… might i direct you to some of my finer platitudes?”
I also wanted to add hugs for Holly and Kladle for what you’ve went through. I really am so lucky that my parents were so good to me and my family this year during our hard times. Even on the night of May 22, we got to sleep in a warm bed with a full stomach, so I realize we’re probably the luckiest people in Joplin.
Call me an idealist, but I think mocking predatory, exploitative sexual practices that target poor people is valuable in and of itself.
And it’s not exactly safe for the exploiters either. Most street kids aren’t that naive and more than a few of them have figured out that’s it’s better to just rob them outright then to have to have sex with them. I’ve knew people, both male and female, who did this and they weren’t even remotely apologetic about it. Can’t say I blame them. I’m pretty sure I’d rather rob the asshole in the OP than sleep with him.
msn is ferdinand bardamu. i have a suspicion that he’s the mra who blogs under that name trying to pull some sort of sneak attack,but even if he isn’t, he’s the actual bardamu.
MSN–if you are Ferdinand, thanks for publishing 4 of my articles….
those white power guys are turds though….
if advocatus is real, he is reprehensible…but no more so than many of the bigots in the Feminist movement like that vilet lady…..
NWO, above all, wants everyone to know how much he has suffered. The idea that Holly might upstage him in this regard must have sent him into a panic. In real life, of course, it’s not a contest, and certainly not a contest anyone should want to win. No one deserves to go hungry.
Monsieur sans Nom sounds like he’s never really been hungry.
I agree. In fact, this is exactly what I have been saying(or at least implying-I try)in prior posts ITT! A lot of street kids seem to manage to learn some street smarts out there and often learn how to protect themselves to some extent against those looking to take advantage of them.
I can’t believe that Advocatus Diaboli thinks that no one has ever anticipated this kind of predatory behavior against street girls before or that most street girls don’t imagine that men might try to offer them stuff in exchange for sex. If a guy did this to a street girl in Portland, OR he’d make a whole bunch of enemies if he didn’t end up getting busted by the cops.