Dear Men Who Hate Ladies: How do I make my boner go away?
Women -- don't let them tempt you with their witchy ways!
Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
Posted on November 26, 2011, in antifeminism, creepy, cupcake, disgusting women, evil women, false accusations, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, MGTOW paradox, misogyny, oppressed men, penises, sex, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 1,197 Comments.
Ugh.
Why did that work? Oh well.
Sorry, barring a dating site, it’s irrelevant, because in flesh and blood encounters those things will go away.
I’d also add, that in a dating site, the are relevant, because one chooses the image on uses,and one (if one has half a brain) includes textual content, not just a picture.
talacaris: Humans did not evolve around cameras, so our “creepy!” intuitions don’t account for the existence of badly lit photos.
@Jenn93
“NWO, you pick and choose what you want to respond to, when others take the time to explain to you why your reasoning is often wrong.”
Pick and choose? I’ve answered as many as I can. There are at least a half a dozen people here attacking me.
No one here has explained how my reasoning is wrong. If as you say I’m wrong, than a better articulated person is more intelligent than a person who stutters or isn’t as articulate.
A person with superior grammar skills is more intelligent than someone of poor grammar skills.
A person who speaks 2 or more languages is more intelligent than a person who speaks only one.
Is this what you believe?
I’ve been called an asshole, I disgust Pecunium, I’m pitied, I’m obnoxious, I need to get down off that cross; the list is endless. Somehow if I say it’s because of hatred everyone jumps on the, “What? Do you have psycic powers,” bandwagon. Yet everyone here has psycic powers, proudly proclaiming my unhappiness, I’m as asshole, I’m pitiable. No one mocks any of the gang for their psycic powers.
Tell me? What was it I said in my statement at the top of the page that deserved the unified wrath of the feminist manbooz gang?
NWO, you really are dumb if you think the only reason we don’t like you was that one comment.
It’s sort of hard to forget the whole “gay people are pedophile serial killers” thing from 12 whole hours ago, you know? We do factor that sort of thing into how we respond to people.
Also you never did name an example of yourself acquiring knowledge from any outside source, ever. That’s why I think you confuse “smart” with “psychic”–because you think that if someone is smart enough they don’t need knowledge to be right.
NWOslave, someone can be smart but not able to express that intelligence very well. You, however, are not one of those people.
You are, to put it in as nice a term as is warranted by this situation, a “grade-a maroon”.
“No one here has explained how my reasoning is wrong.”
Yes they have. On several occasions, even. This is why I say you pick and choose what you want to respond to.
Oddly enough, I don’t think NWO is stupid, at least not in the sense of having a low IQ. He is many, many other things, but I don’t think stupid is one of those. I think the deficits are primarily in EQ rather than IQ.
NWO: Go and read my response… stop pretending it doesn’t exist.
That, as much as anything else, is why you disgust me. You lie, to the faces of the people about whom you are lying. You do this while whining about how unfair it is that the things which aren’t happening, are happening.
You, right now, are lying about what people are saying. You, not we, said that Grammar = intelligence.
You, not we, introduced the question of intelligence and the speaking of multiple languages.
You, not we, are lying about what other people have, and have not said.
You, by your silence, are tacitly admitting, that you were responded to. Yet you pretend that nothing other than, “you have bad grammar and can’t spell,” has been said.
You are, now, and often, a liar. You lie about what has been said to you, and you lie about what you said. But it’s all there, in print, on the net, for any who have eyes to see.
Nice salad platter, Spearhafoc!
Here. I found a creepy salad to go with it.
Just in case you missed it, the first time around (or in the multiple references to it) I will repeat my previous comment
So there, in black and white, a response to you that actually addressed the mistakes you made. I confess, I didn’t specify the logical errors and conflations, because past experience has taught me (as this exchange reminds me) that being detailed is, with you, a waste of time.
You won’t admit that anyone has ever done anything but say you are a meanie and a poopyhead; even when they run your nose in it like a puppy who has soiled the rug.
This site will let me post irrelevant pictures of salad but it won’t link to pictures of Vincent D’Onofrio.
Hatred!
He was obviously too creepy Spearhafoc.
Why do feminists hate Vincent D’Onofrio so much? He’s really tall! And rich (probably)! The collective energy from so many potential gina tingles must have disrupted the link…
NWO, the idea here is that you insist upon holding to a position even when you’ve been objectively proven wrong. It makes you look like a damn idiot, far moreso than actually just being wrong makes you look. I mean, there’s nothing shameful about making a mistake… everyone does. The shame, and the accusations of stupidity, come when you refuse to admit it.
@Pecunium
“NWO: Go and read my response… stop pretending it doesn’t exist.”
“That, as much as anything else, is why you disgust me. You lie, to the faces of the people about whom you are lying. You do this while whining about how unfair it is that the things which aren’t happening, are happening.”
Here is your response to what I wrote.
“NWO: The statement I’ve made at the top of this page is a fact. Why am I, “a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin?”
“Because when someone (anyone) points out the mistaken facts you believe in, you say, “nunh-unh!”, and repeat it as if that somehow will make reverse the falsity of it.'”
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You claim my facts are mistaken. Are they? If they are than you do support the premise that articulate, multiple language and proper grammar equals a higher degree of intelligence. Your words are above.
You further say
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“As an example I offer the following into evidence:
If that’s the case. Please explain to me why I’m being attacked for the statement at the top of the page. The statement I’ve made is 100% correct. There can only be one reason for such a relentless attack. Hatred.”
Here are the first 5 comments in reference to my comment by different people. Althoug Holly clearly leads the list of hatred remarks.
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Holly Pervocracy
“Stephen Hawking (cripes!) expresses his ideas with great clarity. He doesn’t speak, no, but he communicates excellently.
There’s a difference between not being able to say what you think, and not thinking much in the first place.
Since you seem to type just fine, I’m pretty sure you’re in the second category.”
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Graham
“Do you consider yourself intelligent, NWO?”
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Spearhafoc
“Do you consider yourself intelligent, NWO?
Of course he does. He’s the only one of us who doesn’t get regular “flouride” injections.”
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Pecunium
“NWO: I dunno? What I wrote above seemed quite intelligent. Yet your automatic response was…..
Seemed, perhaps. You made logical errors, conflated several things, and included a number of unfounded (and unsuported assertions), all while missing the point (that claiming one is, “never dumb”, while making simple errors in the chosen medium of communication is, prima facie a counter-example which disproves the initial assertion).
So, it may have seemed intelligent, but it wasn’t.”
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Flib
“NWO: Do you remember when you tried to do math? Remember how you forgot how time scales into all population demographics? Or how about how you have continually failed statistics? Never mind that you fail to source much of your knowledge and it is often just incorrect or horrid misreadings.”
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You’ll forgive me if I find any of your opinions about any subject as less than objective. In every case of every comment, you can read the rest on the previous page, was my point of view ever given anything but derision, hatred and mockery. Is this the finest example of feminists equality I hear is preeched?
Maybe this works:
@ Spearhafoc
HTML = HyperText Magic Language
Personally, I think everyone here owes me the sincerest of apologies. Starting with the person who vehemently attacked me for simply existing. Whoever could that be, Holly?
NWO, there were parts of those comments other than “NWO is a stinkyhead because he just is.”
Are you too lazy to read them, too stupid to understand them, or too dishonest to acknowledge them?
Your current argument seems to be “I’m smart but I just never act like it,” which while technically possible I guess, isn’t very impressive. Mixed in with a whole lot of “you hate me for no reason,” which is either willfully ignorant or stupid considering all the reasons we have to dislike you, which we have clearly and repeatedly explained.
Also, are you willing to provide evidence of your ever acquiring knowledge from an outside source and accepting it? I’m not talking opinion stuff here. I’m talking like looking up which serial killers killed women.
I didn’t attack you for simply existing. If I did that, I’d attack everyone who simply exists, and I don’t do that.
But, um, I apologize for once again getting drawn into talking to you like you would listen. That was very stupid of me. I should have either ignored you or just mocked you, because attempting to explain things to you shows a clear failure of pattern recognition on my part.
In that case, NWO, you should apologise to the gay community for assuming the majority are criminals =)
Shorter NWO: “You hate me for no reason just because I said gay people are vile murderer pedophiles and 15-year-olds who wear clothing are sluts who are asking for it and all women should be sex slaves!”
But right, it’s the grammar we have a problem with.
NWO: Here is your response to what I wrote.
“NWO: The statement I’ve made at the top of this page is a fact. Why am I, “a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin?”
“Because when someone (anyone) points out the mistaken facts you believe in, you say, “nunh-unh!”, and repeat it as if that somehow will make reverse the falsity of it.’”
No, that isn’t. My response, the one to the thing you wrote was this comment
So you are lying about what my response was.
You claim my facts are mistaken. Are they? If they are than you do support the premise that articulate, multiple language and proper grammar equals a higher degree of intelligence. Your words are above.
And my words have nothing to do with how many languages one speaks.
You make logical errors, conflated facts, and said that things were being said (that grammar = intelligence) which weren’t being said.
1: Did MRAL say he “never did anything dumb,”?
Yes, he did.
2: Did he make a grammatical error?
Yes, he did. He failed to use the vocative comma.
3: Was that a dumb thing to do?
Yes, it was.
4: Therefore is the statement, “I never do anything dumb,” false?
Yes, yes, it is.
That is what was said. You chose to pretend it was something else. That’s the charitable view (for values of charity which accept that you chose to lie).
The unhcaritable view is you are too stupid to see points 1-4.
Moreover, you can’t (really, you can’t) pretend that your previous excursions into “knowledge”, (such as the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets being the same, or your abuse of statistics, and simple arithmetic… see, “more women are raped while attending college than attend college) aren’t a factor in people thinking you to be a bit thick.
That you think women deserve to be raped, and that having a sex life is shameful… well those might have something to do with the sorts of reactions you get.
Your bleating that it’s not fair, well that’s hypocrisy, because you argue that women who “provoke men” by daring to wear clothes that arouse men “deserve” what they get.
But when you spout hatred, and lies, you think people should ignore it, and just look at the most recent thing you post. You refuse to give actual answers to the questions you pretend to respond to, refuse to admit that actual answers (as mine to you above, and this entire comment are) have been given, then go on about how unfair it is that you are asked to back your claims up with facts.
As if we only do that to you.
That, your pathetic dishonesty, in fact, word and deed, is why you disgust me. You don’t have, so far as can be seen, an honest bone in your body. The most grotesque of lies, and the most blatant of reversals of your position (see the flip-flop on the holocaust, when it suits your purpose) are as nothing to you; IF you think it will convince one person of the evils of women who disagree with you, of women who expect to be treated as people.
You are a worm, and no man
Crap… HTML tag fail. I’ll repost.
NWO: Here is your response to what I wrote.
“NWO: The statement I’ve made at the top of this page is a fact. Why am I, “a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin?”
“Because when someone (anyone) points out the mistaken facts you believe in, you say, “nunh-unh!”, and repeat it as if that somehow will make reverse the falsity of it.’”
No, that isn’t. My response, the one to the thing you wrote was this comment
So you are lying about what my response was.
You claim my facts are mistaken. Are they? If they are than you do support the premise that articulate, multiple language and proper grammar equals a higher degree of intelligence. Your words are above.
And my words have nothing to do with how many languages one speaks.
You make logical errors, conflated facts, and said that things were being said (that grammar = intelligence) which weren’t being said.
1: Did MRAL say he “never did anything dumb,”?
Yes, he did.
2: Did he make a grammatical error?
Yes, he did. He failed to use the vocative comma.
3: Was that a dumb thing to do?
Yes, it was.
4: Therefore is the statement, “I never do anything dumb,” false?
Yes, yes, it is.
That is what was said. You chose to pretend it was something else. That’s the charitable view (for values of charity which accept that you chose to lie).
The uncaritable view is you are too stupid to see points 1-4.
Moreover, you can’t (really, you can’t) pretend that your previous excursions into “knowledge”, (such as the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets being the same, or your abuse of statistics, and simple arithmetic… see, “more women are raped while attending college than attend college) aren’t a factor in people thinking you to be a bit thick.
That you think women deserve to be raped, and that having a sex life is shameful… well those might have something to do with the sorts of reactions you get.
Your bleating that it’s not fair, well that’s hypocrisy, because you argue that women who “provoke men” by daring to wear clothes that arouse men “deserve” what they get.
But when you spout hatred, and lies, you think people should ignore it, and just look at the most recent thing you post. You refuse to give actual answers to the questions you pretend to respond to, refuse to admit that actual answers (as mine to you above, and this entire comment are) have been given, then go on about how unfair it is that you are asked to back your claims up with facts.
As if we only do that to you.
That, your pathetic dishonesty, in fact, word and deed, is why you disgust me. You don’t have, so far as can be seen, an honest bone in your body. The most grotesque of lies, and the most blatant of reversals of your position (see the flip-flop on the holocaust, when it suits your purpose) are as nothing to you; IF you think it will convince one person of the evils of women who disagree with you, of women who expect to be treated as people.
You are a worm, and no man
I don’t owe you an apology at all. Quite the reverse: when I wrote a polite, reasoned response to a comment that you made yesterday, your response was to ignore it completely*.
So what exactly do I have to apologize for?
(*I wasn’t the least bit offended by this, by the way: I didn’t think you’d be able to answer it adequately, so not answering it at all speaks volumes in itself)
@Holly Pervocracy
Tsk, tsk, Holly. Your’s was the first comment. Here it is.
“Stephen Hawking (cripes!) expresses his ideas with great clarity. He doesn’t speak, no, but he communicates excellently.
There’s a difference between not being able to say what you think, and not thinking much in the first place.
Since you seem to type just fine, I’m pretty sure you’re in the second category.”
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What would you call this fine piece if literature? An objective opinion? What is this but an attack? Is this worthy of someone claiming a far greater intelligence than I possess?
How deeply I’m wounded by your needless, vicious attack!
Holy shit, NWO, you could give my dead grandmother a run for her martydom money.
You really think you warrant an apology, and that it’s just the one comment here that earns you the scorn and derision of pretty much everyone here?
Think again.
NWO, that was not the first time I’d met you. That’s why I came off a tad attack-y.
I didn’t impugn your intelligence because of anything in that specific comment, but because you think gay people are vile murderer pedophiles and women should be sex slaves etcetera.
NWO: Personally, I think everyone here owes me the sincerest of apologies
I can’t give you one. I sincerely believe everything I said, and therefore any pretense of apology would be a lie.
I meant every word I said (and if you think my responding to the actual content of your post was “automatic” you have a strange view of both me, and logic, since it’s plain I read it, and dealt with the content.
Automatic would have been, “Oh, is NWO being clueless again?”, but I gave up on that sort of thing some time ago. These days it’s pretty much only when you pretend you are being abused for no reason that I bother to respond to your blather.
Which is why I have no patience with idiots like Broseidon. It’s like trying to discuss astrophysics with someone who failed high school algebra
HAHAHA that’s rich. In Cassandra’s world, building obvious straw men, spouting nonsense and retreating into third-grader insults when pressed equals “discussing astrophysics”? Lawlz. Go on, tell me more about how you’re right and I’m wrong because you say so.
Anyways, I see there have been about ten thousand new comments since I was last here (coughnolifecough) so I will just say, calm your eager meat jars everyone!
“How deeply I’m wounded by your needless, vicious attack!”
I commend your commitment on this trolling thing. Most people would have gotten bored by now.
NWO, you didn’t address my comment, which holds true whether you’ve ever posted here or not. Although I am mightily amused that you think you deserve some sort of apology for people treating you… frankly, much better than you’ve treated any of us.
Also to NWO: Why do you come here? Seriously. It’s like going to the Stormfront forum talking about how much you enjoy hip-hop and 50 Cent and complaining that you’re being attacked.
“Anyways, I see there have been about ten thousand new comments since I was last here (coughnolifecough) so I will just say, calm your eager meat jars everyone!”
C’mon, dude, you took the time to read ‘em. :P It’s 4:00pm on a Sunday, what else are you gonna do? *folds laundry*
Broseidon: multi-task much? It’s not hard to do other things while mocking stupidity.
NWO! You haven’t apologised to the gays yet!
@Pecunium
“2: Did he make a grammatical error?
Yes, he did. He failed to use the vocative comma.
3: Was that a dumb thing to do?
Yes, it was.”
An error is dumb? A mistyped word or forgotten comma is dumb?
A missed comma is dumb, is it? I’ll reserve the right to excuse error’s and missed comma’s as dumb. Of course that’s just my dumb opinion.
Your seething, irrational anger and hatred comes thru quite clearly in the rest of your comment. All your false interpretations of anything I’ve said is proof positive of an adherance to an ideology above all else. Are you psycic as well? According to Holly I am.
@NWO: Slavey, slavey, slavey. You are forgetting that you can’t do math (like all the previous times you have tried). You are forgetting your attempt to claim all women are raped by purposeful misunderstanding of statistics. You specifically leave out time scales when attempting to discuss demographics. When discussing serial murderers, you forgot some of the biggest ones, and make no rhyme or reason as to why you have forgotten them. You pick and choose to respond only to things that in your convoluted logic you think you have something there while ignoring everything else that disagrees with your statements. This thread alone is full of such examples, be it Pecunium, Holly, myself, and many others.
These are not simply “vile attacks”. These are matters of fact of things you have done. You want objective, there it is right there. The fact that you purposely ignore them doesn’t lend you any credibility or validity in what you say. You want objectivity? Then follow actual tenants of objectivity:
1. A belief in facts (You have demonstrated many times non-belief in facts that do not support your faulty positions)
2. a distrust in values (You can’t hold a claim to objectivity when you hold only trust in your own values)
3. Committed to segregating values from facts. (You certainly do not do this. Values are the basis of your statements. See: Anything you’ve said about Jews, religion, murderers, statistics, and others. Some of these examples are but 14 hours ago)
You whine but fail to source anything that you say. Don’t get me wrong, there are problems with the ideal of objectivism (especially behind the idea of neutral information), but you do not demonstrate the basic values of it as such. You do not even hold the rhetorical skill to evoke such concerns. It seems your concept of objectivity only applies to yourself, and no one else.
But at the same time, you do not exist in a vacuum. You do not hold validity due to your previous actions. You can’t even admit that you were ever wrong. I have never seen you do as such, and though I am just one of the smaller voices here on Manboobz, you have been an existence here for quite some time. You do not hold rational discourse in your interests. You’ve never engaged in such to begin with.
You can be A or B. You don’t seem to be A, so I’m pretty sure you’re B.
Sounds logical to me! And the more inanity you fluently write, the more strongly the evidence supports the idea that you are B; you don’t struggle to write, you babble and it’s harder getting you to shut up long enough to read our responses than it is to coax a comment out of you.
@Joanna
“NWO! You haven’t apologised to the gays yet!”
For what? I proved quite clearly that gays are 15x as likely, percentage-wise of the population to be mass murderers. Also 15x as likely to be pedophiles. Why should I apoligise for their behavior. You should apologise for promoting such behavior.
Do have fun with your movement, I’m outta here.
Well, he proved it folks. The world is upside down, dogs and cats are living together in peace and harmony and apparently all of us are wrong.
NWO, you’ve proven jack shit, because you just claimed that without backing it up.
NWOslave, I’ll apologise to you when you apologise to all the women here for saying they should be slaves to men.
*sniff* Completely ignored….
Also, interesting definition of “proved”.
Having just been through that part of the thread, I can’t help but notice that Broseidon has not in any way responded to the content of the replies made to him, and instead pretends that “third grade insults” were the sole recourse to his arguments.
And I love Owly so much. When his arguments are replied to with facts, reasoning and demands for actual evidence, he ignores what is said and casts the replies as mere insults: when he is actually insulted, it’s all about exactly what people said and how they owe him an apology. My money is still on him being some kind of genius performance artist. Ten years from now there’s going to be a small exhibit called “logical fallacy” in a small gallery in St. Paul, Minnesota, consisting entirely of painted canvas depicting his comments.
I love you, trolls. Never stop what you do. I mean, stop, but you know.
The thing I did find interesting about Broseidon’s argument was his assertion that any male-on-female harassment would automatically be shut down by other men. The times when I’ve been verbally catcalled (and once, threatened) have been times when I’ve been walking to and from work or waiting at a bus stop–I don’t have male friends escort me (they have their own jobs to go to!) and I don’t have a live-in boyfriend. I’m hardly ever surrounded by the men that are, supposedly, supposed to protect me.
You also need to look up the definition of “proof”. Silly NWO.
…Was the apostrophe thing on purpose, here? :p
I know, right? It’s like he’s taunting us …
You stated these things. You did not prove, or even support, them. You’d have to give the actual number of gay vs. straight mass murderers and pedophiles, and a source where you got that number, and you did no such thing.
Sooo……NWO’s definition of proof=”I said it!”
Wow!
I googled “Are gays violent?” and couldn’t get a straight answer. There is no definitive proof.
As for communication vs. intelligence, I’d say that DKM for example is a fairly effective communicator when he wants to be — he tends to be long-winded and has some weird affectations but I’ve read some perfectly coherent statements outta him. But I don’t think he’s terribly smart, or that he’s as intelligent as many people I know to whom writing comes less easily. MRAL in contrast might actually be fairly bright (and if he got over the college douchebro dumbassery, he might turn out to be downright intelligent!) but his comments are kind of juvenile and he apparently has never looked up “gash” in a thesaurus, so his communication is a bit sub-par.
MRAL is socially unintelligent.
Blessed gods, NWO, people here dislike you because you tromp into a feminist space, insult us and our friends and families, eat all the food from the fridge and shit on our nice rugs. And expect us to apologize to you for pointing out the fact that you shat on the rug.
NWO, you are the reason we can’t have nice things.
And expect us to apologize to you for pointing out the fact that you shat on the rug.
Especially since it really tied the room together.
And the best part of all is when the owner of said feminist space tells NWO to go find somewhere else to play until he can figure out how not to shit on our rugs, NWO gets all huffy! Because being asked to not defecate on the decor is somehow oppression! There may or may not be bad impersonations of Dennis the Constitutional Peasant! With horrible abuse of commas and apostrophes!
I don’t give a flying fuck if you are insulted, NWO. Everything I have said to or about you was warranted. You are a hateful little piss ant, I have no duty to not dislike you.
You also seem to believe rather strongly that you have no duty to not dislike and insult me and mine, as you do it on a regular basis.
I think I have stated before that I am not a fan of insult based on “intelligence” because that is a vague category and many methods of measurements are poorly designed and used to uphold privilege (such as IQ tests). They are also simple insult or ad hominem, not a genuine argument against a person’s position (of course, sometimes simple insult is what people are going for). Still, they can also be hurtful to people who are not engaging in bad or irrational behavior, especially people with disabilities who have had such terms thrown at them.
It is worth noting that “willfully ignorant” and even “anti-intellectual” are not intelligence based insults, but rather behavior and viewpoint based insults.
Would this be the same Broseidon who called me a “pussy-whipped beta” the other day?
No, it can’t be – there must be more than one.
CB: nicely done.
Now that he’s on this apology kick, I’m waiting for milkslave to apologize to everyone here who he’s misrepresented and otherwise insulted. It’s gotta be … just about everyone, innit?
NWO, don’t give us this “I deserve an apology” bullshit. You visit Manboobz because you love love love the attention–the more negative the attention, the better. You come here looking for a fight, and we give you one. It’s too late to act all outraged innocence now.
Bro, edited to clearly reflect what he says he meant:
Citation needed.
Bro:
I believe that you’ve never masturbated in public, and that you don’t know anyone who’s told you he masturbates in public. I don’t think that’s enough evidence to conclude Demios is making it up.
You know why no one’s ever told you they’ve done it? Either because they know it’s creepy, or because they don’t and you choose not to associate with such people.
Bro:
Do you understand why your “personal knowledge and observation” may be incomplete as far as what women experience, and why “that never happens” is not usually an appropriate response to someone talking about a personal experience?
I don’t know if all creeps are given the label for a good reason, but I’m willing to give people who aply the label to others the benefit of the doubt, because why make it up? In another thread I asked for details of the Secret Feminist Plot Against Men, and none have been forthcoming, so I’d going to provisionally dismiss the hypothesis that feminists destroy men for the lulz or for points they can redeem for prizes or anything like that.
As or the destructive power of the word “creep,”well, I may have a skewed idea about it because I live in New York, populous and anomie-filled, and I assume it’s easy to find people who don’t know you’ve been determined to be a creep. Is it different in small towns?
Bro:
It’s not going to happen to/near you as often as it happens to/near six or seven people in aggregate. Even if people will do it where a man (you) can see them, there are six or seven of them.
Bro:
Yes, and you’re refusing to. On that basis. That’s what “if I don’t see it then it’s not real” means.
I mean, disregarding the source for a moment, why do you assume your personal observations are a good source of information on things that happen when people like you aren’t around?
Bro’s hits just keep on coming:
Obviously a conspiracy to hide the sky’s true color, probably for some nefarious purpose.
Bro:
Citation needed. Who has told you they know your life better than you do? Quotes, please.
Bro:
Citation needed. Bashing must be of men qua men, not anything they do or say.
Cassandra:
And then insists that astrophysics is impossible.
pecunium:
I don’t even think that’s true. There’s a grey area where attractiveness-to-her can make a difference, but some behaviors are creepy no matter how appealing the person is. And some are not however icky the person is.
Mutatis mutandis for other gender combinations, of course.
Slavey:
I think it is safe to say that you and, e.g., Holly are working with vastly different knowledge bases, albeit with some overlap.
Pecunium:
He’s gaslighting, but he’s doing a bad job of it, because, as you said, anyone can go back and look.
Holly:
I think he interprets challenges to his facts as personal insults. Looked at that way, Pecunium’s and Flib’s comments — catalogues of him being factually wrong — were exactly equivalent to “NWO is a stinkyhead because he just is” and thereore no one has challenged his facts without insulting him. The conversation, from his perspective, is:
Other person: “You’re a stupidhead.”
Slavey: “Tell me how I’m factually wrong.”
Other person: “I just did, when I said ‘you’re a stupidhead'”
There’s a feminist blog that I feel has substantially the same dynamic, interestingly.
Kathleen:
But from his perspective, that’s perfectly reasonable, because it is insulting to be called the sort of person who shits on the rug.
Maybe this poor soul is simply confusing “women” with modern women or feminists. If this is the case, he should lose little time in finding something better, either more traditional and less harsh, bitter and competitive castrating women elsewhere, or perhaps (don’t laugh!!) paintings and photographs of women in earlier times, collector dolls, or (if he is artistically gifted) using modern computer graphics and camaras to create his ideal “little lady lovely”.
If he is really sick of modern women, he may try to get some temporary satisfaction from petting and nuzzling a pet, either a soft, fluffy, plush one, or a new “cyberpet” that can even respond to him in elementary ways, snuggle, purr, obey simple commands (hey, they may be superior to modern women right there Ed1974) and so on…They are not (yet) sexually compatible with human males, so your imagination will have some work to do, but you are womanless anyhow, so you have nothing to lose!
There are also electric and audiovisual mastabatory aids, which can, if properly used, enhance the experience.
Feminists!! Your days, at least as feminists, are numbered! Tradional “little lady lovelies” are coming back, whether through biological or electronic/cybernetic means. It won’t be next year,or even next decade, but…
He who laughs last, laughs best!
Johanna, that’s silly. He asked for an apology for an imaginary crime and you answer by asking an apology for something he actually said. No, you should have asked an apology for having said that kittens are the devil’s spawn. Now, that would make more sense.
Btw, NWO, how does that work? For what I gather, your claim is based on the idea that if a man rape a man, the rapist is gay. I don’t know if your number would be accurate if we accepted that, but let suppose it would be.
So, what if a man rape a woman, then gets thrown in jail. What if he rapes a man in jail, is he gay? Is he bi? What if he gets out of prison, and only have sex and/or wish to have sex with women, is he gay, bi, straight?
If he’s still gay or bi, does that means prison turned him gay? If he’s straight again, does that means you can be ungayed? Is gayness something so changing you can get it and lose it in a few months? I’m confused.
Okay, let’s try a little ‘personal observation’ exercise. By my own personal observation, China does not exist. I’ve never been there. Oh, I’ve seen pictures, and eaten food that some people claim is Chinese, but since I’ve never seen actual food in China, I have no real way of knowing of it exists or is a collective delusion of a few billion people. Now, can you see what stupid claim that is? Just because I’ve never experienced something does not automatically make it false or non existent.