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100% Mathmatically Accurate! Manosphere blogger Dalrock on slut-shaming

"Kids Love it!" Another claim that is not 100% accurate.

The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a  doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.

This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.

Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:

Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players.  The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel.  Now we introduce slut shaming.  It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all.  This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage.  This directly translates into fewer fatherless children.  This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier.  Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her.  After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on.  This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel.  You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.

Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:

Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players.  Now apply shame to the players.  Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them.  No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts!  But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.  The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts.  They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation.  Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first.  This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business.  This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.

Well, there’s no arguing with that!

Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.

Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.

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Posted on November 19, 2011, in antifeminism, bad boys, crackpottery, evil women, misogyny, patriarchy, precious bodily fluids, reactionary bullshit, sex, shaming tactics, sluts, thug-lovers. Bookmark the permalink. 1,285 Comments.

  1. The feminist coverup extends far beyond the Bermuda Triangle on THAT one, Ami ;)

  2. anyways, zhinxy answered my question, so i guess the comment i put up at 11:50 was redundant, i just didn’t see that reply until I posted….

  3. DKM wrote, “What ever happened to the days when women were thought to bring bad luck if they were in the crew of ships? Maybe our great grandparents knew something that we have forgotten!”

    I know whenever I get *my* period mirrors break, small fluffy animals die, and I cause bad luck for everyone around me…

    @Ami: A giant GEISHA robot! That will serve him perfectly in all things! It’s like a really horrible manga!

  4. stonerwithaboner – Heinlein, yes. He had some very interesting gender… issues.

    I believe The Navy also considered all female submarine crews, based, I think mostly on gendered claustrophobia research, but scrapped that.

    However – a standing military is not usually where to go when you look at women’s effectiveness in combat –
    Where we really shine is in revolutions, guerrilla war, and resistance. Once things get all State and spit and polish and uniform, they care too much about us being weak and ladylike ;) Another reason to go for the overthrow? ;)

    Also, the Night Witches of the Soviet Union in ww2 – Two whole REGIMENTS of women pilots.

  5. “I know whenever I get *my* period mirrors break, small fluffy animals die, and I cause bad luck for everyone around me…”

    That wouldn’t happen if you were in this hut with me!!

  6. @stoner on that note:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Russian_and_Soviet_military

    The Soviets found that sniper duties fit women well, since good snipers are patient, careful, deliberate, can avoid hand-to-hand combat, and need higher levels of aerobic conditioning than other troops.

    that’s the thing… even if you’re going by gender stereotypes, it would mean women would be good and possibly better at various combat things…

  7. Dammit, zhinxy, I have a novel to write while being a fighter pilot!

  8. Go be a goddam fighter pilot, Molly Ren! Things in feministville are so utterly goofy, I don’t know what the hell to do!

    World War 2 apparently took place in Opposite World. Although everyone in this thread knows what your problem with the Second World War was, DKM.

    You wanna be a “fighter pilot”, Molly Ren? Oh Gosh, I don’t know!!…. Ask the crews of the real fighter pilots would they feel safe, and would they be able to concentrate on their jobs in combat being piloted by a female?

    If a trained pilot’s response to knowing that there’s a woman in his vicinity is to go “Ooooh gorsh, a GIRL!” and,trembling, forget everything he’s ever learned about aviation, then maybe this is evidence that men are too psychologically unbalanced to be in combat, hth.

  9. If a trained pilot’s response to knowing that there’s a woman in his vicinity is to go “Ooooh gorsh, a GIRL!” and,trembling, forget everything he’s ever learned about aviation, then maybe this is evidence that men are too psychologically unbalanced to be in combat, hth.

    Women were a creation of the Decepticons to weaken our armed forces in preparation for Stage 6.

  10. I love how Meller’s usual response to being told that men are okay with, or even actively in favor of, women being allowed into traditionally male roles is “Gosh, that’s so wacky! My stars! Has the world gone topsy-turvy?”, as if that’s saying anything meaningful about anyone but him.

  11. VoiP – Very true. Very.

    Though, what I find hard to articulate in these discussions, as someone who believes that women are… “combat ready” – if anyone is, is this. It tends to brush aside that HUMANS are not designed for war, and the needs of state armies. They hop up fighter pilots on prescribed Methamphetamine.

    Male, and now female.

    We aren’t designed for war as humans, and men aren’t very good at it either. If women are too soft, well, most men, thank any god there is, don’t shoot to kill…

  12. @David K. Meller

    You are very selfish, did you know that?

    Because only what you want matters. You keep insisting that women must be alluring, playful, cute, fluffy, adorable, charming, and other adjectives that could easily be used to describe a dog. Women should wear frilly dresses and look and act like Stepford wives, and they MUST conform to YOUR standards or else be forced into slavery.

    You do not see them as human beings with unique wants, needs, thoughts, and desires. Some women may want to be like that, some women may not, but you don’t care. If they don’t want to conform to your rigid standards, then they are wrong and should be punished for it. After all, in your mind they are no more than animals.

    You don’t even care about other men. Not all men want the same type of woman you want. Not all men want a “sweet old-fashioned girl”. Once again, you selfishly ignore what others want because at the end of the day, only what YOU want actually matters.

    You lack the mental capacity necessary to understand that people, both male and female, do not fit into quaint little categories no matter how much you try to force them. Regardless of gender, humans encompass a vast spectrum of personalities and tastes. But you don’t care about anyone else, because you’ve made it quite clear that it is YOUR specific tastes and wants that are important and nobody else’s are.

    And I realize that you’re probably going to deny this with many exclamation points while completely missing my point. Go for it, but I’m about to go to bed and probably won’t reply for a little while.

  13. Just for DKM, a kitten in a pretty dress

  14. “Thanks firebee – it’s good for me to hear opinions from people different to my usual friends. I have learnt a lot from the people here at manboobz.”

    To elaborate a bit — I’ve noted people saying that the reason there should be more women in engineering is because we can bring some sort of supposed “empathy” to technical work and thereby meet the needs of the people we’re serving more effectively.

    Which is important, don’t get me wrong, but the problem is that women who are engineers are not some sort of iconic female-critter with a hard hat plunked down on their head. They’re people who decided to pursue an engineering career and who are trained as engineers — alumni from my alma mater have a distinctly recognizable cast of mind, independent of gender — who are also female.

    As such, while various aspects of their gender (whatever it is) might cause them to see things in one or another way, often enough their personality or their training are going to be the dominant influence on how they think rather than their gender.

  15. @ Magpie

    That video is made of D’AWW!

    My kitty won’t wear dresses. She’s committed to streaking.

  16. In NWOSlaves next life:

    He we be a 24/7 technician in an artificial womb lab. Without time off to whine on the internet.

    How would that work for you buddy? Saving the unborn and all.

  17. Okay, I haven’t read back through the thread yet so forgive me if this has been asked already. David, is the Human Centipede II baby-head-crushing scene as hilariously random on film as it sounds in the wiki article? That sounds like the most gratuitous thing ever.

    Though my speculation for the 3rd film is this: they take teensy fetuses and sew them together and put them back into some lady’s uterus and try to grow a “natural” human centipede like that. Then they can have more fun with dead babies and whatnot and it makes the baby death and crying foreshadowing rather than goofy. Yes/no?

  18. Firebee – yes, I see what you mean. (I would like to say more, but i’m hopeless at expressing myself)

    Pyena – Itty bitty kitties love to streak – around the house, up the walls, down drainpipes.

    Cats don’t like being dressed because if they can feel something all the way around their body it paralyses them (sort of) and they can’t walk. It’s a party trick, tie a tea towel loosely round the cat’s middle and it just sits there.

  19. Just fished this comment from many hours ago out of the moderation queue; wouldn’t want anyone to miss it, so here it is in its entirety. Have at it!

    Doyourownresearch | November 19, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Fret not, my brethren. You will be a master of the universe in the long run, so long as you stick to the script. In the end, good guys get the last laugh.

    These players, or as Roissy says “alpha males,” are doing all the rest of us a favor in the long run. They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).

    I’m not a big fan of evolutionary psychology, so I’ll implore you to think about the situation this way. Let’s take a 21-year old chick who’s between a 7/8 (cute to pretty). She’s the equivalent of Roy Jones, Jr. in his prime, all attributes, no fundamentals or technique. She garners the attention of males both older and younger. She can pretty much get sex whenever she wants it and with whomever she wants to have it with. And that is ultimately her downfall.

    Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards. Why wouldn’t they? Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?

    Wrong. See, when women gain this enormous sense of pussy power, they swing for the fences. That’s what power does to people. It makes them crave more. So, the cute guy with a 3.8 GPA, but no car? Nope, not good enough. The nice-looking pre-med student? “Nah, I’ll just get back to him later. I heard Jude Law’s hotter brother is transferring here this semester.” They invariably end up overplaying their hand. They chase these players looking to get a ring, and then that ring never comes. So now they’re 27. It’s a good thing she kept that pre-med Johns Hopkins student in her back pocket just in case things didn’t work out with the player, right?

    Wrong again. In a vacuum, women would have their way. Men beg for sex. Women decide whether to give it to them (and for most guys, they will not give it to you). But luckily, we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in the real world with social constraints, and there are two that work distinctly to a man’s advantage: reputation and age.

    Men take notes. Ladies, don’t think our homeboy didn’t tell us about the time he bought you drinks, only for you to walk away and make fun of him with your girlfriends. Don’t think we won’t remember your bitchiness. And don’t think we won’t remember those guys who you ran behind like a cum bucket. We remember. And we punish.

    When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends. Seriously, how many times have you met a cute girl and your friends said, “Oh, she was with _____.” It was a wrap. Women who aren’t able to learn their true value quickly and then make wise decisions early on pay a hefty price in the long run.

    The height of a woman’s value, in terms of her value as a long term partner, is around the age of 27. That is the praecipice. She must make the decision: settle down or play around. Her best choice, if she wants to get married, is to begin actively pursuing a husband. But she faces a couple of problems. First, she wants to marry up (older, richer, higher status). But by this time, her peers are just hitting their prime. They’ve picked up some wealth and game along the way, and are seeking to exact revenge against the throngs of women now begging for engagement rings. Second, she’s got competition. Those new “alphas” aren’t trying to mess with used goods. They want that 21 year old model. And for a Harvard MBA on Wall Street, that’s not an unrealistic expectation.

    The older she gets, the more her singlehood gets scrutinized by men. Why the hell is she still single? Who’s cock has she been sucking all these years? This bitch must be crazy or something. And let’s face it, what virile, successful bachelor wants to entertain a 29 or 30 year old as wifey potential? She’s going to want to become a baby factory right away and rip away the last vestiges of your freedom. I don’t think so. It’s now my time to swing for the fences and bang some of these 21 year olds that I couldn’t bang in college.

    In conclusion, a woman’s value is really defined by the type of man who puts a ring on her finger, not the type of guy who will fuck her. It takes a lot of women a long time to understand this, and thus, they overplay their hand. If it wasn’t for the players dogging them out, these women would not get a sense of their true value and start to seek out men who fit within their price range.

    One last thing.

    I would encourage attractive women to read Greek mythology, especially the story of Icarus. Icarus, with his new but fragile wings, could not resist flying too close to the sun.

    Attractive women, with their pretty faces and firm backsides, often can’t break the spell of the intoxicating power that comes along with those attributes. Power’s a hard thing to give up. It’s a lot like winning at the craps table. Some people just don’t know when to quit and cash in their chips. And when they don’t have the good sense to cash in their chips, they often end up just like Icarus–dead in the water.

  20. Why would women want “alpha dick” if women didn’t enjoy sex, though? If women are entirely gold-diggers, then why bother sleeping with guys who won’t give them actual cash or houses or whatever at all? It makes no sense! :p

  21. And when they don’t have the good sense to cash in their chips, they often end up just like Icarus–dead in the water.

    If at first you don’t succeed a stitch in time saves a gift horse in the mouth when you can get the milk for free if you can’t say anything nice at all like a box of chocolates. WORDS OF WISDOM, BITCHES.

  22. It’s all just so childish. We will punish you, ladies! Just watch us! You’ll be sorry!

    Eh, I’m nearly 40 and pretty happy with where my life has ended up. Sorry to disappoint you, revenge-seeking manchildren.

  23. They sound so young, don’t they? Rooting is a big part of life in your twenties, but what about the next 60 years? Doesn’t he reckon he’ll do or think anything else that might affect his life and happiness?

  24. You hear that ladies? Y’all are gonna be real sorry when the guys you don’t want to fuck stop trying to fuck you! Oh wait, that’s really not much of a threat at all, is it? Never mind…

  25. Thank you, David, for creating the first Internet thread I’ve ever seen in which Human Centipede is the least gross thing.

  26. Although I did enjoy Meller flipping out Victorian-style over the very notion of lady fighter pilots, not in the least because I have a cousin who flew fighter jets during her stint in the Air Force. Like ten friggin’ years ago.

    She’s a lawyer now. And married with two kids, so I’m not even sure where she’s going to end up in the Meller World Order.

  27. Jill the Spinster

    “doyourownresearch”, you have a lot of advice for cute to pretty girls, what advice do you have for us plane to ugly girls?

  28. “In NWOSlaves next life:

    He we be a 24/7 technician in an artificial womb lab. Without time off to whine on the internet.

    How would that work for you buddy? Saving the unborn and all.”

    I don’t wanna go all annoying and sound anything like a transhumanist, but I do think in ectogenesis we might have a very important option for unwanted pregnancies that will satisfy the needs of many women who feel opposed to abortion…In the future. I’m getting out of here and dropping this topic like a hot potato now.

  29. If I’m a slut, and I’m busy having sex with guys who aren’t alphas, can I still get married? Should I be collecting references from all the virgins I fuck in order to reassure my future husband that I wouldn’t have rejected him when I was younger?

    Also, I love how no one middle-class (or, God forbid, lower-class) exists in Doyourownresearch World. I’ve never slept with a Harvard MBA or Jude Law’s hotter brother, you know? I doubt I’m going to get to. And yet I have a vagina and everything.

    Alsoalso I have totally fucked a guy and then fucked his friends.

  30. “doyourownresearch”, you have a lot of advice for cute to pretty girls, what advice do you have for us plane to ugly girls?

    Ugly girls should try to marry all the MBAs real quick while they’re still blueballin’ sad and alone; “plane” girls should get the hell out of the cockpit. ;D

  31. When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends.

    Funny story: one of my good friends from college met her husband when her ex-boyfriend introduced them. Her now-husband asked her out specifically because her ex had given him such glowing descriptions of how awesome she was in the sack back when they were dating.

    I’m always amused by how the MRA types seem utterly incapable of grasping a concept most of us manage around the age of 3: all people are not you. If you only date virgins, that’s fine for you, I suppose, but there are loads and loads of men out there who don’t have the same weird madonna/whore hangups and either don’t really care or actively like being with partners who have at some point had sex.

    (I know that’s only scraping the surface of the near-infinite layers of wrong in that post – and even just in that sentence! – but the notion that “all men are horrified by the thought that a woman might at some point have fucked” is some universal truth made me laugh even harder than “all women just want to marry someone, and have no interest in sex in its own right” and “women routinely ‘shelve’ men to be fucked later.”)

  32. Zhinxy said-

    “We aren’t designed for war as humans, and men aren’t very good at it either. If women are too soft, well, most men, thank any god there is, don’t shoot to kill…”
    —-
    “A look at history might help illustrate what I am talking about. In World War Two, it is a fact that only 15-20 percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. That is one in five soldiers actually shooting at a Nazi when he sees one. While this rate may have increased in desperate situations, in most combat situations soldiers were reluctant to kill each other. The Civil War was not dramatically different or any previous wars.

    In WW2 only one percent of the pilots accounted for thirty to forty percent of enemy fighters shot down in the air. Some pilots didn’t shoot down a single enemy plane.

    http://www.military-sf.com/Killing.htm

  33. “And when they don’t have the good sense to cash in their chips, they often end up just like Icarus–dead in the water.

    If at first you don’t succeed a stitch in time saves a gift horse in the mouth when you can get the milk for free if you can’t say anything nice at all like a box of chocolates. WORDS OF WISDOM, BITCHES.”
    <3

  34. Fret not, my brethren. You will be a master of the universe in the long run, so long as you stick to the script.

    Oooh! Oooh! I call She-Ra! :D

  35. stonerwithaboner:

    Zhinxy said-

    “We aren’t designed for war as humans, and men aren’t very good at it either. If women are too soft, well, most men, thank any god there is, don’t shoot to kill…”
    —-
    “A look at history might help illustrate what I am talking about. In World War Two, it is a fact that only 15-20 percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. That is one in five soldiers actually shooting at a Nazi when he sees one. While this rate may have increased in desperate situations, in most combat situations soldiers were reluctant to kill each other. The Civil War was not dramatically different or any previous wars.

    In WW2 only one percent of the pilots accounted for thirty to forty percent of enemy fighters shot down in the air. Some pilots didn’t shoot down a single enemy plane.

    http://www.military-sf.com/Killing.htm

    Yes. Thankyou for the additions. And it’s also important to look at the horrific psychological toll killing took on those who did it.

  36. I think some people play video games where they mow down about a bajillion Nazis a day, and think that they could totally handle shooting actual humans no prob. Yeeeeah.

  37. Bagelsan: Yeah, no. Human beings are bad at killing people. It’s that whole “empathy” thing we have. :)

  38. So yeah, my argument on this always ends up: Women can be in combat. Women can fight and women can kill as well as men can. Which isn’t very well, and nobody should! So there, I suppose.

  39. And Meller, I know you’re (at least) anti-war, so again, why does the question of women weakening the military bother you so?

  40. Zhinxy-

    It’s mentioned in the link, you might find On Killing by David Grossman to be an interesting/disturbing read…..

  41. Ooh, yes. I’ve had that in my to read list for a while, thanks for the reminder :)

  42. It’s always funny when Meller is in full NO OTHER MEN LIKE WOMEN LIKE THAT rant mode and someone points out that in fact there are men who really like the women he despises. His ability to dismiss them as weirdos, despite his own tendency to have conversations with his doll collection, is pretty damn funny.

  43. Do you suppose there are any people where Doyourownresearch lives, or is he surrounded by a bunch of stereotypes and poorly written characters?

    They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).

    God, I wish I lived in a world where people didn’t say things like “the true prices of commodities (women).” Fuuuck.

  44. Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas.

    Honestly, I actually think it’s MEN (and MRAs particularly) who seem to have this overinflated sense of the “value” of our sex organs… e_e

  45. Oddly enough, most women don’t consider our vaginas to be the most valuable part of ourselves at all. Shocking and difficult for MRAs to understand as this may be, it is in fact the reality.

  46. Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards. Why wouldn’t they? Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?

    Okay, even playing into this “value of the vagina” thing flat out –

    Well, I don’t know about the Wharton MBA’s, (Seriously, is there some crazy world out there for these guys I don’t know about?) but as for the sports stars, seriously, do you really not think the vast majority of those women know and fully accept marriage is not in the cards?
    I swear to god
    it’s like they think every groupie, girl-in-town, or sex worker dreams of marriage
    …or something
    YOu think because the alpha sleeps with you he wil marry you hahahahhaha
    …no? I don’t think that often happens. Girls often know what the arrangement is. Usually, I’d say. They might think marriage is in the cards if there’s a significant relationship going on. And they’d have every right to think that, I’d say.

    And besides, you don’t think a lot of those women know what the value is, because they are … You know, call girls? There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that arrangement, but do these MRA’s really think it’s just deluded women thinking they’ll be married?

    Or… what?

  47. Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas.

    Honestly, I actually think it’s MEN (and MRAs particularly) who seem to have this overinflated sense of the “value” of our sex organs… e_e

    Damn straight.

  48. It’s weird that our trolls will on one hand argue that women shouldn’t be in combat because we suck at everything, especially fighting and we’ll get all our male comrades killed, and then on the other hand claim that excluding women from the draft is because our government treasures women and hates men when they’ve just given the EXACT argument that is a big reason women aren’t considered for drafts… because people did not think we’d make effective soldiers and in fact would be a hindrance.

    And for the record, I’m against all drafts… but if you’re going to have it, it’s ridiculous to make your army less effective by excluding half of your potential soldiers. e_e (did I mention I’m against drafts?)

  49. YOu think because the alpha sleeps with you he wil marry you hahahahhaha
    …no? I don’t think that often happens. Girls often know what the arrangement is.

    And adding that I don’t buy the whole alpha thing at all, but in terms of “Rich famous guy and girls he sleeps with” my points stand.

    Ami:

    It’s weird that our trolls will on one hand argue that women shouldn’t be in combat because we suck at everything, especially fighting and we’ll get all our male comrades killed, and then on the other hand claim that excluding women from the draft is because our government treasures women and hates men when they’ve just given the EXACT argument that is a big reason women aren’t considered for drafts… because people did not think we’d make effective soldiers and in fact would be a hindrance.

    And for the record, I’m against all drafts… but if you’re going to have it, it’s ridiculous to make your army less effective by excluding half of your potential soldiers. e_e (did I mention I was against drafts?)
    that one

    Exactly,.

  50. In other news, The Human Centipede director also has a hilariously bad art gallery online with paintings such as “Earwax Sandwich” and “Skidmarks.” Basically, picture a man with no skill at painting and coasting on the sort of gross-out shock value a fourth grader would find edgy.

  51. What I can’t figure out is why anyone gave him money to make that…I was going to say piece of shit, but maybe that’s bit too literal in this case.

  52. @NWOSalve:

    No, the father would have the right to kill the murderer of his child. A life for a life, equality.

    Interesting.

    1) If the child’s father is dead, does the mother get to kill the murderer, or does the role of executioner get granted to the closest surviving male relative of the child?

    2) Does the state (in the form of the police) gather evidence, organize a jury, appoint a judge, and so on, and then if the defendant is found guilty then hand the role of executioner to the father? Or is the father the judge, jury, and executioner?

  53. @Meller Ok ok I know asexuality is only 1% or so of the population but considering we are at about 7 billon that’s quite a few. Also Poole other than asexuals have low libidos or other reasons they don’t want to or like having sex. So what will your proposed society do with these non sexual women? They won’t want to have sex in thier marriage and they most certainly won’t want to be trained as a sex slave. They probably won’t wan to be nuns I thy are not religous so??? Will they be allowed to live life as free people with lives and jobs? Or forced to be sexual one way or another?

  54. People* if the* (sorry typing on my iPod is sometime fail)

  55. Also, technically speaking the mother in this scenario didn’t actually kill the fetus herself, so she’s not the murderer, she’s just an accomplice. The doctor is the murderer. (If we pretend any of this makes sense, which it doesn’t.)

    Going by the principle of crank magnetism, what do we want to bet that Slavey is a big fan for the nuremberg files?

  56. @Matthew Cline: or 3) a couple of the town’s menfolk get together and do some drinking, find a funny-lookin’ furriner, blame the whole thing on him, and have a lynching to let off some steam. Duh. Justice!

  57. (Full confession, I don’t have any idea what scenario y’all are discussing that my option 3 proposes to address. Luckily mobs and lynchings are one-size-fits-all in the Mellerverse!)

  58. “Interesting.

    1) If the child’s father is dead, does the mother get to kill the murderer, or does the role of executioner get granted to the closest surviving male relative of the child?

    2) Does the state (in the form of the police) gather evidence, organize a jury, appoint a judge, and so on, and then if the defendant is found guilty then hand the role of executioner to the father? Or is the father the judge, jury, and executioner?”

    Indeed. And once again… How high are my Womb Police taxes going to be? It really does seem like policing women’s bodies is the main expense of your entire government system? Again, are there schools, prisons, courts? You say we vote, so how many elected officials? What’s going on here? It really seems like you love the state a lot more than I do, NWO, whether I must be a statist or not?

  59. Oh look, Doyourownresearch is Phillyboy81, or someone who copied his comment, and Marky Mark thinks what he has to say is really neat! Imagine that!

  60. INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT!!! Plot thickens!

  61. DKM also hasn’t explained who is going to force all the women into brothels.

  62. Bee:

    Try telling an officer that you consented to sex at the time, but now that you’ve had a few days to think about it, you change your mind. Tell me how hard he laughs at you.

    Cops have been known to laugh at people who’ve actually been raped, though, so that doesn’t prove anything. But if you attempt to revoke consent retroactively most feminists will laugh at you (or worse).

    Mouseling:

    Everything you say is sort of like Dr. Seuss crossed with, say, Oxfordian ranting.

    IRTA “Oxycontin ranting”

    Molly Ren:

    NWOslave, if your life is that terrible, you could probably go out and commit a crime and get put in a nice cushy jail cell. It’s already been done.

    Wasn’t there an O.Henry story along those lines?

    Slavey:

    Go wiki-knowlege. You do know wikipedia is opinion based, right?

    I’m sorry someone in high school told you “gullible” wasn’t in the dictionary, but that doesn’t mean that everyone who attmpts to impart information is trying to trick or trap you.

    Slavey:

    @Quackers

    I don’t agree with this new policy. [...]

    You could care less about this policy.

    How the hell do you know? And why do you think you know better than she does?

    Ami:

    Fret not, my brethren. You will be a master of the universe in the long run, so long as you stick to the script.

    Oooh! Oooh! I call She-Ra!

    Can I be the floating dude in the red dress?

  63. Slavey:

    @Quackers

    “I don’t agree with this new policy. [...]”

    You could care less about this policy.

    How the hell do you know? And why do you think you know better than she does?

    Well, to be accurate Slavey is agreeing that Quackers cares about it. He didn’t mean to, but he is. :p

  64. Phillyboy81? Really? So… I guess the tragically unlaid bitter Wharton MBA is probably totally hypothetical, you guys! XD

  65. Cops have been known to laugh at people who’ve actually been raped, though, so that doesn’t prove anything. But if you attempt to revoke consent retroactively most feminists will laugh at you (or worse).

    Well, cops laughing at someone (or, more to the point, not taking them seriously) who says they now regret their consensual sex, so they want to call it rape, shows that women who do that won’t be able to have their sex partners arrested, which was what the milkslave was trying to claim …

  66. DKM also hasn’t explained who is going to force all the women into brothels.

    Well, he claims it’s not force because it’s the natural consequence. Though he still doesn’t explain what happens if you don’t want to be in a brothel. And… He still has to explain why the family and not the individual has so much authority in supposed libertarianism.

  67. There are so many things wouldn’t work in Meller’s perfect world. What if the family of the support her wish not to marry and not to become a prostitute and have a job? Does the police come and take her to the brothel by force? By the way, what happens to her if she escape it?
    What happens if the father/husband of the woman is dead, who gets to own her? What if she marries, then cheat. Can the husband send her to the brothel? What if the husband cheats?
    What if the husband is unhappy because his wife don’t want to have sex, is she still sent to a brothel? Same question if she’s an abusive spouse and a violent person, why would you think she would be a good prostitute? Anyway, same question for all independent women: if the ‘problem’ is that she want to be a firefighter or whatever, why would she be an obedient prostitute?
    Also, what happens when a prostitute gets pregnant? Still no to abortion? Is the brothel a good place to raise a kid? Does the father (if he is known, which would obviously not be easy to find out) have to raise the kid? Does the state take the child from it’s mother arm to give to another family?

    The only way it works is that if that if everybody is brainwashed into liking this system or if an all-powerful state enforce the rule and put in prison/to death every women who refuse to obey the rules.

    Fret not, my brethren. You will be a master of the universe in the long run, so long as you stick to the script. In the end, good guys get the last laugh.

    This part really confused me, as I couldn’t believe it was sincere and not mockery.
    And I though good guys (well, nice guys, but that seems to be synonym here) were always the loosers because girls only likes assholes and bad boy.
    *blow a kiss to her not-athletic PhD-student geeky boyfriend*

  68. Okay, DKM has got to be a troll. I mean, acting like he’s surprised at the reactions to his suggestion of forcing non-housewives to be prostitutes in brothels?

  69. Off topic, but check out this classic bit of insanity;

    CyclotronMajesty

    Yes, we are deeply in a matriarchy. Men have no social power whatsoever. It all is regulated by the female. And they are all whores.

  70. He is, which does not means he is not sincere. You must no forget that he bases his idea of a good human on dolls, which never act, never age and never have opinions that could differ from his.

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