100% Mathmatically Accurate! Manosphere blogger Dalrock on slut-shaming
"Kids Love it!" Another claim that is not 100% accurate.
The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
Posted on November 19, 2011, in antifeminism, bad boys, crackpottery, evil women, misogyny, patriarchy, precious bodily fluids, reactionary bullshit, sex, shaming tactics, sluts, thug-lovers. Bookmark the permalink. 1,285 Comments.
No, in fact, I believe I’m at liberty to call you an asshole until the sun comes up.
It’s true, though, you don’t have to accept feminism as anything. You’re just an asshole if you don’t.
But hey, fortunately there are more people in this country with my view of liberty than yours, so you have that freedom. Enjoy it. Let me know how it works out for you, what joys it brings you.
Asshole.
@ozymandias42
“NWO, you aren’t really very clear on how free speech works, are you?”
I dunno? Why don’t you and Big Daddy get together and dictate what constitutes, “hate speech.”
I just read a review of Human Centipede II, and JESUS, that’s fucked up. I still wanna see the first one, though.
Also fucked up: the milkslave’s views on rape. Although, Ozy, he is at least kinda right about the legal elements of rape changing over the last few decades. Used to be that the victim had to show utmost resistance, sometimes there needed to be a witness, no marital rape, etc. Nowadays, that’s changed, at least on paper.
Milkslave:
Might happen, but still not gonna be prosecuted. Try telling an officer that you consented to sex at the time, but now that you’ve had a few days to think about it, you change your mind. Tell me how hard he laughs at you. Dude, the elements of rape are still, generally speaking, either (1) inability to consent, or (2) force or threat of force. Quit making shit up.
That goes for Dalrock, too, come to think of it.
Lesbian feminism will make it all work out! Send the message far and wide! Big Daddy is gonna make all our troubles disappear! With Justice!
I sort of enjoy how repetitive and nonsensical you are, NWO. I mean, you’re clearly a troll, but at least you’re an amusing one. Everything you say is sort of like Dr. Seuss crossed with, say, Oxfordian ranting. It’s so completely unfounded as to be uncomprehendable by people who actually know anything about the topic, but the constant repetition of party lines makes it hilarious despite the utter lack of sense.
Their “his daughter was illiterate!” is your “Big Daddy!”
Ha, “uncomprehendable.” Let’s all mentally replace that with “incomprehensible” and I’ll go to bed before I make up any other words.
@Holly Pervocracy
Asshole? Is that the best you can do? Why wouldn’t I hate a hate movement? Hell, Goebbels got nothing on hate propaganda compared to feminists. He’d probably wince at the level of hate rhetoric feminists spew.
By the way, NWO, I think it’s pretty funny how you talk big about how you’re living in the deathgrip of a repressive hyper-PC Big Daddy State… and you don’t act scared.
If I was in a speech-repressing state with jackbooted thugs enforcing, I wouldn’t be posting about it on the Internet! (Maybe for the purposes of organizing revolt, but not to casually pick fights with random strangers.) You’re posting from your home IP address, I’m guessing?
You talk big about how the thugs come after any man who dissents, but you dissent in the ugliest, crudest ways imaginable, quite feely, and you don’t seem to be very concerned that someone might come for you.
Is it that you don’t really believe your own bullshit, or that you don’t even know what really being scared of your own society feels like?
*feely = freely. d’oh.
Goebbels got nothing on hate propaganda compared to feminists.
See, this is the sort of thing I’m talking about. Jews under the Nazi regime didn’t pick a lot of fights with Germans just to make a point; and the ones who did, generally paid for it with their lives.
And yet you live. You live without any real fear at all. You make your cheap little fascist allusions when you know DAMN WELL you’re lucky enough to live in a society with enough liberty that you’re free to talk the way you do.
@Little Mousling (@LittleMousling)
You’re right. Stupid numbers are patriarchal.
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@Bee
“Might happen, but still not gonna be prosecuted.”
Tell that to the countless men falsely imprisoned, ostricized or murdered, (to protect a womans honor of course). Or doesn’t that happen either?
Well, this is interesting. Here we have a proposal originating with a male that sluts be shamed so as to render them suitable for sanitization via marriage. That’s different. I’m old enough to remember a time when the objective of chest-beaters everywhere was to “get to” a certain number of young women “early enough” to turn them into sluts, disqualify them for marriage, and free them up for uncommitted sex. How the ways change.
Well, this is interesting. Here we have a proposal originating with a male that sluts be shamed so as to render them suitable for sanitization via marriage. That’s different. I’m old enough to remember a time when the objective of chest-beaters everywhere was to “get to” a certain number of young women “early enough” to turn them into sluts, disqualify them for marriage, and free them up for uncommitted sex. How the ways change.
Fixed that.
@Holly Pervocracy
Apparently, liberty has a definition I’m not familiar with. Your defintion seems to include Big Daddys intervention. His help, enforcement, indoctrination.
But you haven’t been “helped,” NWO! You haven’t been indoctrinated! And you’re not even afraid that you’ll face enforcement!
If you really think you live in a fascist regime, one where you could literally be attacked without repercussion or thrown in jail without cause–why aren’t you afraid?
You talk about how oppressed you are, but you sure don’t talk like a man who’s watching his back.
(Not that I think you should watch your back, by the way, NWO. This isn’t a threat. Actually the opposite. I’m just pointing out that if the Feminist Thought Police hasn’t come for you by now, you of all people, someone far more offensive to feminism than 99% of men, maybe that goes to show there is no Feminist Thought Police.)
It happens exceptionally rarely, and under completely different circumstances than the ones you’ve suggested here. If you can find any example — even one — of a woman telling people that she freely consented to sex, and only much later decided that she regretted it, and of the man she had consensual sex with being imprisoned, ostracized, or murdered to protect her honor, I will give you a cookie.
@Holly Pervocracy
I am indeed posting from home, for the first time in 39 days. I was in salt lake city for that time, and unfortunately I’m going back for another crushing however long it takes. You folks don’t seem to realize the amount of effort it takes to walk into the big refrigerator when you grab a bottle of pop.
By the way, salt lake city is quite lovely. Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to sitesee. That was 39 days straight of 10+ hours a day. A tad draining, and quite dangerous.
Okay, NWO, so you’re not only letting us know that you are indeed posting from your home IP, you’re giving notice of your future travel plans.
These are not the actions of a dissident under a fascist regime.
@Bee
I’ve given soooo many it seems quite pointless. The standard response will be NAWALT. Which somehow makes it all better.
Tell me? If I always support men in he said/she said cases of date rape where no violence has taken place, does that make me a misogynist?
NWO, are you afraid that you, personally, could be falsely accused of rape? After all, lots of feminists hate you, and you’re very vocally anti-feminist and anti-government. Are you afraid? Are you taking steps to protect yourself? You keep speaking out against feminism and the state–are you prepared to go to jail as a result?
…or are you doublethinkingly damn well aware that it’s not going to happen to you because false accusations that actually lead to imprisonment are incredibly fucking rare and you have nothing to worry about?
I know I’m harping on it tonight, but you’re fucking wallowing in your freedom of speech while wailing about how you have none. And you don’t even sound nervous about it.
@Holly Pervocracy
What do I have to lose? The only thing I own is debt, thanks to Big Daddys penchant for answering to the bankers nation destroying usury. Which is where all power is derived, including the propogation of feminism.
What? Will they imprison me? Three hots and a cot, free dental and medical? All at taxpayers expense of 130k a year. Tell me, why would Big Daddy do that? Why wouldn’t Big Daddy just hand me 65K a year? It’s half the price. What could the reason be?
Ya see, when enough men are disenfranchised, hobbled, have stumbling placed before them at every turn, there really isn’t anything to lose.
You choose to side with a tyrannical State, I don’t. Eventually of course, after feminism has outlived it’s usefulness of hatefully criminalizing all men, you’ll be joining men in the poverty palace. No rights for you either.
NWO, you’re only disenfranchised, hobbled, and stumbling in your mind, a very scary place to be sure, but hardly reality. White men are still doing OK, and to borrow your ilk’s logic, if you’re not, isn’t it all your fault?
hahahahaha,
Human Centipede, don’t let Robert Jensen know you watched it as it contains his favorite type of porn-ass 2 mouth….
bad attempt at a joke at the expense of his puritanical beliefs…..
@Holly Pervocracy
I’m pretty sure I’ve made it clear I have nothing to lose but a lifetime of hard labor. I retire when I die.
Is there, “hate speech?” And who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech? And what is the penalty? What will the penalty eventually be?
So, um… shit, sounds like falsely accusing a guy of rape is the nicest thing I could do for him. In NWO fantasyland, I don’t know why that’s even a problem. Apparently prison is suddenly the Holiday Inn.
…Prison costs more like $25K a year, but whatever.
Still, even if you’d welcome prison, you aren’t actually there. And some men are. (Some women are, but oh God let’s not go there you might explode from the revelation.) How do you doublethink your way around that?
Well, since you do, let’s drop the pretense that this is a hypothetical. You are a misogynist, and your position on date rape at the very least makes you an incurious, easily confused douchebag.
Actually, I just asked you for one example, so me responding that not all women are like that would kind of be beside the point. The fact that you were unable to come up with even one example of what I asked for is telling.
So dramatic! Between your everpresent vapors and Meller’s shelf of collectible dolls, I must confess I’m a bit perplexed what problems you two could have with nontraditional gender role theory. Anyway, yeah, I guess that all that posting you were doing on manboobz in the last 39 days was in your few free moments between tweaking all those Salt Lake milk machines. Lactophile Utahians take their hats off to you, my dear, for your feats of derring-do.
@hellkell
Are there any stumbling blocks? Are there any State agencies which empower one gender above another? Any charities? Any corporate entities? Any UN/international agencies? Where do all those trillions upon trillions of dollars come from? Do I have a choice as to where my money goes? If my money goes? Am I paying back all those loans at interest?
“White men are still doing OK, and to borrow your ilk’s logic, if you’re not, isn’t it all your fault?”
Wait, doesn’t that go against the logic of OWS?
CA prison costs:
http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3
just under 50k per year, i think it was from 2008/2009, might be more now….
If Big Daddy won’t let you do what you want, do what every other kid does – ask Mum! :)
@Bee
I’ve never seen a milking machine. And to be honest, I’ve only ever seen a cow from a distance. Being the privileged class, you no doubt think cows and juice and soda products naturally dispense into bottles and magically arive at the big refrigerator known as walmart.
Stonerwithaboner – is NWO with OWS now? too many acronyms :(
NWO, I don’t have the patience to explain to you yet again how charities that support women’s causes do not take away from men. Men can and DO support charities for men, and you are free to give to them. Do you? Nor are there state agencies that empower one gender over another, unless you’re think along the the lines of WIC, which really isn’t empowerment by any stretch of the imagination.
Trillions of dollars? Citation sorely needed, my paranoid friend.
Fret not, my brethren. You will be a master of the universe in the long run, so long as you stick to the script. In the end, good guys get the last laugh.
These players, or as Roissy says “alpha males,” are doing all the rest of us a favor in the long run. They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).
I’m not a big fan of evolutionary psychology, so I’ll implore you to think about the situation this way. Let’s take a 21-year old chick who’s between a 7/8 (cute to pretty). She’s the equivalent of Roy Jones, Jr. in his prime, all attributes, no fundamentals or technique. She garners the attention of males both older and younger. She can pretty much get sex whenever she wants it and with whomever she wants to have it with. And that is ultimately her downfall.
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards. Why wouldn’t they? Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?
Wrong. See, when women gain this enormous sense of pussy power, they swing for the fences. That’s what power does to people. It makes them crave more. So, the cute guy with a 3.8 GPA, but no car? Nope, not good enough. The nice-looking pre-med student? “Nah, I’ll just get back to him later. I heard Jude Law’s hotter brother is transferring here this semester.” They invariably end up overplaying their hand. They chase these players looking to get a ring, and then that ring never comes. So now they’re 27. It’s a good thing she kept that pre-med Johns Hopkins student in her back pocket just in case things didn’t work out with the player, right?
Wrong again. In a vacuum, women would have their way. Men beg for sex. Women decide whether to give it to them (and for most guys, they will not give it to you). But luckily, we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in the real world with social constraints, and there are two that work distinctly to a man’s advantage: reputation and age.
Men take notes. Ladies, don’t think our homeboy didn’t tell us about the time he bought you drinks, only for you to walk away and make fun of him with your girlfriends. Don’t think we won’t remember your bitchiness. And don’t think we won’t remember those guys who you ran behind like a cum bucket. We remember. And we punish.
When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends. Seriously, how many times have you met a cute girl and your friends said, “Oh, she was with _____.” It was a wrap. Women who aren’t able to learn their true value quickly and then make wise decisions early on pay a hefty price in the long run.
The height of a woman’s value, in terms of her value as a long term partner, is around the age of 27. That is the praecipice. She must make the decision: settle down or play around. Her best choice, if she wants to get married, is to begin actively pursuing a husband. But she faces a couple of problems. First, she wants to marry up (older, richer, higher status). But by this time, her peers are just hitting their prime. They’ve picked up some wealth and game along the way, and are seeking to exact revenge against the throngs of women now begging for engagement rings. Second, she’s got competition. Those new “alphas” aren’t trying to mess with used goods. They want that 21 year old model. And for a Harvard MBA on Wall Street, that’s not an unrealistic expectation.
The older she gets, the more her singlehood gets scrutinized by men. Why the hell is she still single? Who’s cock has she been sucking all these years? This bitch must be crazy or something. And let’s face it, what virile, successful bachelor wants to entertain a 29 or 30 year old as wifey potential? She’s going to want to become a baby factory right away and rip away the last vestiges of your freedom. I don’t think so. It’s now my time to swing for the fences and bang some of these 21 year olds that I couldn’t bang in college.
In conclusion, a woman’s value is really defined by the type of man who puts a ring on her finger, not the type of guy who will fuck her. It takes a lot of women a long time to understand this, and thus, they overplay their hand. If it wasn’t for the players dogging them out, these women would not get a sense of their true value and start to seek out men who fit within their price range.
One last thing.
I would encourage attractive women to read Greek mythology, especially the story of Icarus. Icarus, with his new but fragile wings, could not resist flying too close to the sun.
Attractive women, with their pretty faces and firm backsides, often can’t break the spell of the intoxicating power that comes along with those attributes. Power’s a hard thing to give up. It’s a lot like winning at the craps table. Some people just don’t know when to quit and cash in their chips. And when they don’t have the good sense to cash in their chips, they often end up just like Icarus–dead in the water.
I’m just going to tire myself out asking “if you’re so oppressed, why aren’t you oppressed?”, aren’t I.
But at least I learned that there are no women involved in beverage bottling. (Or, um, milking.)
Um, milkslave, didn’t you tell us that you repair milk bottling machines for a living?
OWS-Occupy Wall Street…..
I thought NWO was New World Order-I think i heard it in a Ministry song back in the day….
@Bee: I’m pretty sure he did say he dealt with some kind of milk bottling machinery.
hahaha, the cooments move so fast here, it’s more like a chattroom than a comments board….
It always amuses me when Slavey starts going on about how hard his job is, what long hours, etc. It’s funny how he works under the assumption that 10 hour days are unusual (which, lol! I used to work for a start-up that put in a bed in the corner because we were there so much, it was common for us to be there from 8 or 9 am till midnight), and no one else’s jobs are tiring, stressful, etc. Just his, and perhaps those of other MRAs.
He’s out hunting the mammoth refrigerator for us, you guys.
NWO – I’m against the State. All states, Any State, (But not Allstate, well, except in that it’s a limited liability corporation, and I’m against that, but car insurance is good in principle).
So tell me how the feminists are more in league with the state than you are. Tell me what you think the state should or should not do. Are you a libertarian? A fiscal conservative? A constitutionalist? A minarchist? An anarchist? What do you want? What should or shouldn’t the government be doing, or how on earth can I judge who is more statist here than you? As far as I know from what you’ve said, you’re completely for statism, as long as it’s not feminist, however you define feminism. So what’s the deal?
“But at least I learned that there are no women involved in beverage bottling. (Or, um, milking.)”
well there are females, the cows, right?
here’s a cool site:
http://hereticsway.gluontheferengi.com/
It’s like screaming “You’re an eggist! you love eggs! you and your eggs all the time! Eggs eggs eggs eggs can’t save you! That isn’t the proper use of eggs eggists! You think you’re so smart but EEEEGGGGS! The fact is I know more about eggs than you and you eggists have ruined our eggs! Our eggs just like eggs wanted! Big momma chicken isn’t gonna lay for you forever! EGGGS!”
Dude, what? What do you mean? What about eggs? Do you want there to be eggs? Are eggs bad? What’s the proper function of eggs? Can you explain how eggs are being misused by eggists? How would things be different eggwise in your ideal egg scheme?
“I DON’T OWE YOU ANYTHING. KEEP SUCKING ON YOUR EGGS, EGGIST!”
Milk isn’t bottled at the dairy. It’s trucked to a plant to be pasteurised, homogenised and bottled (and skimmed and made into whatever all those other kinds of milk are) :)
@Holly Pervocracy
“Still, even if you’d welcome prison, you aren’t actually there. And some men are. (Some women are, but oh God let’s not go there you might explode from the revelation.) How do you doublethink your way around that?”
Princess, Big Daddy is closing down womens prisons.
http://www.newser.com/story/128438/california-prisons-set-to-release-4k-moms.html
They’ll get help now, it costs a little more but well worth it. I mean it already takes an act of congress to incarcerate a woman. Plus, feminists will get to cite another statistic of how many men are in prison while no women are in prison. Sweet, huh? Women get spa treatment for the same crime and get to use this statistic to prove how evil men are. Big Daddy must truely love his little girls!
So yeah. I referred to the milkslave tweaking milk machines = milk bottling machines /= milking machines. Trust me, milkslave. I know the difference. Spent every summer of my childhood on a dairy farm, actually.
Also: I never shop at Walmart. (The more you know — rainbow explosion!)
Also also: If I were a self-declared MRA who really gave a shit about men’s issues, or wanted to pretend I did, I sure as hell would be able to name a couple of men’s charities off the top of my head. Hell, I can do it now, and I’m a feminist. O.o
SO, this is a good time to talk about how you basically defended rape in state prisons as a punishment, right?
EGGS EGGS EEEEGGGGS!
Shouldn’t you be happy, snookywoo? I mean, after you got all worked up about how prison is three hots and a cot and an easy way to live out your days. Shouldn’t you be glad there are more men than women in prison if that’s the case?
I wish you’d at least be internally consistent with your bullshit.
But then again, just a couple days ago you were talking about how men’s prisons were full of rape because TEH GAYZ. Today you’re claiming that you don’t care if you go to prison.
“They’ll get help now, it costs a little more but well worth it. I mean it already takes an act of congress to incarcerate a woman. ”
Just like Meller and his dolls, the deeper you dig into NWO’s mind the more ludicrous things get.
Psst! Slavey! The NWO really is out to get people like you. Look, the UN actually recognises you as having a personality disorder. This one, to be specific.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
@zhinxy
You seem to forget, I’ve seen all your comments. This isn’t a place for intelligent discourse.
” Dude, what? What do you mean? What about eggs? Do you want there to be eggs? Are eggs bad? What’s the proper function of eggs? Can you explain how eggs are being misused by eggists? How would things be different eggwise in your ideal egg scheme?”
What’s to discuss? Whatever you pretend to be, you’re a statist. Feminsim is synonymous with State control, the bigger the better. You can’t be a feminist and not be for massive State control.
as far as prison…
Get the pot smokers outta there, just keep the violent offenders and psychopaths there….
as far as male rape, don’t join the army…..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/03/male-rape-in-the-military-being-confronted.html
(time to end Selective Service….)
NWO – that report specifically stated that fathers who are primary caregivers of young children are eligible for the same release program…
So what are your positions on incarceration? Are you a prison abolitionist, a crime hardliner? What do you think of the drug war that incarcerates so many young men?
NWOslave, if your life is that terrible, you could probably go out and commit a crime and get put in a nice cushy jail cell. It’s already been done.
? Whatever you pretend to be, you’re a statist. Feminsim is synonymous with State control, the bigger the better. You can’t be a feminist and not be for massive State control.
Please explain further. Because I’m pretty sure I”m an anarchist. How am I pretending to be against taxation, borders, eminent domain, limited liability, legal and defense monopolies, and etc, because I am for gender equality? Maybe these things aren’t as synonymous as you think.
Even Meller seems to get this…
@CassandraSays
Go wiki-knowlege. You do know wikipedia is opinion based, right? Well if the UN says it’s so it must be true. Let’s give them more control! I mean thank the goddess in all women the UN went in to kill lotsa people in Libya, because….. Well who the hell cares really. The UN said so. That’s what matters.
haha nwo did NOT read the link
You didn’t notice how it referred to guidelines that are in the DSM too? Learn to read, Slavey.
You really should look into treatment options, it might make you a happier person.
XD
SO Meller’s now into “I’M RIGHT BECAUSE I AM!” and NWO is “You’re a STATIST NO MATTER WHAT, NO DEBATE”
xD
Some ppl are just a LITTTLE scared to actually debate Libertarianism with Zhinxy hmmm? xD
What’s to discuss? Whatever you pretend to be, you’re a statist.
Oh? How is she a statist? Outside that in your world, a person who doesn’t believe in government control (like Zhinxy) is a statist and somebody who desperately wants MORE government control (like you) is not XD
um OKAY NWO
I actually realized last night that NWO doesn’t stand for New World Order… it stands for New WORD Order… (it explains why he can’t spell or write)
this new definition pretty much explains how he can go “I AM A TOTAL LIBERTARIAN” while… y’know… not being one xD
You HAVE read her posts NWO, that’s why you’re so scared to actually TALK now… you’re pretty much in “oh f- she knows stuff.. I… can’t even name a Libertarian writer… ” mode now xD
NWO has a hilarious bug up his ass about Wikipedia. It’s only antique Britannicas for him!
in Inmalafide, they call Libertarians LIEbertarians…..
i confused them with Librarians once….
Hang on – are we talking about big-endian eggists, or little-endian eggists?
Wouldn’t all of the arguments regarding ‘sluts” and the “cause” and “cure” of “sluthood”–sexual overactivity and promiscuity by females–be rendered obsolete if girls were subject to closer and more consistant supervision by their families, communities, and the larger society from early childhood till marriage?
You can’t have “sluts” if the sexual availability of girls is strictly contained or forbidden, if unmarried girls from good families are simply unavailable for use, and even for observation without the knowledge and consent of the father, mother, and perhaps older women of the family, along with close and trusted friends or neighbors to say nothing about, (if called for) the local constabulary!
This is where legal, and even praiseworthy “prostitution”, may be useful, if not indispensible
There would, of course, be a number of “independent” or rebellious women who would chafe at the restrictions upon the women of such a society! these women would resort to promiscuity and sexual license as an expression of independence, ruining them for marriage, but certainly not for the entertainment of men!There are, of course, in any society and economy, also a number–perhaps even a large number–of women who can only gain a livelihood–so to speak–by sexually servicing men. these women have been abandoned by their familes and are for all practical purposes, nameless and homeless. Why not, instead of outlawing their behavior, put it to good use for the benefit of everybody concerned?.
Unmarried women with no status or family associations, would be freely and confidentially available for the use of men in the community to whom access to virgins–and the wives of other men–was forbidden. Those women would also be kept clean and well trained by their house and its management.
These women, or, more likely, their employers, who kept, trained, and protected them, would be well paid for girls’ sexual availability and skill, as well as for any other entertainment offered to their guests.
The girls and the houses which managed them would thus also act to help protect the virginity and purity of the girls from good families, and hence the issue arising from the existence of female promiscuity would be peacefully and profitably resolved to the benefits of all concerned!
Now isn’t all of this worry about so-called “sluts” and female promiscuity really overblown?
If he really cared, he’d have to care about men other than himself — in fact, he’d have to care about men who are not white and not straight and not working class and all these other things that the milkslave passionately hates. The milkslave just likes keeping the idea of the state threatening to throw him in prison as material for his masturbatory fantasies.
Which is fine. Masturbate to whatever you like, milkslave. Just keep it to yourself, dude.
now I’m picturing an anarchist librarian’s library XD
Hmm. I guess since the DSM is less than a century old it must be evil feminist propaganda, despite the psychiatric profession being rather male dominated.
I bet if she wanted to debate Star Wars EU with you though, you’d jump right in. I’m starting to wonder if that’s the only thing you’ve actually ever read xD For all your talk of being TEH LIBERTARIAN GOD, it seems like your REAL expertise might be in Star Wars novels. xD
Are you planning to avoid ever talking about your stateless society again? How ARE you going to avoid her XD Face it NWO, you’ve based your entire persona and cred here on being a supposed “Libertarian” (even though as I’ve pointed out over and over, you’re one of the biggest statists here… you want to control SO MANY ppl’s bodies and personal lives xD ) and now… you’re in trouble b/c somebody is actually on that same game space as you’ve been exposed as a fraud xD
You can still be the Star Wars expert tho! :D
Wouldn’t all of the arguments regarding ‘sluts” and the “cause” and “cure” of “sluthood”–sexual overactivity and promiscuity by females–be rendered obsolete if girls were subject to closer and more consistant supervision by their families, communities, and the larger society from early childhood till marriage?
You can’t have “sluts” if the sexual availability of girls is strictly contained or forbidden, if unmarried girls from good families are simply unavailable for use, and even for observation without the knowledge and consent of the father, mother, and perhaps older women of the family, along with close and trusted friends or neighbors to say nothing about, (if called for) the local constabulary!
What if they don’t want to be? Then what?
Who is going to contain or forbid them if they don’t want to be? o: