MRA: Who cares if #MenCallYouThings? It’s not like women have any real problems.
Fried rice. Frequently confused with "fried ice."
Oh, ladies, must you complain so much? I mean, who cares if every time you say something on the internet some random dude threatens to rape you? White and Nerdy, the dude behind the Omega Virgin Revolt blog, doesn’t care, and he wants you to know it:
#mencallmethings is just another example of how women (in first world countries) don’t have any actual problems. Between the government and manginas doing everything for women, no woman has any true problems. Any “problem” a woman has is because of one of these reasons:
1. A desire for the equivalent of fried ice. IOW she wants something that is physically impossible.
2. Failed attempts at defrauding, stealing from, or otherwise attempting to enslave men.
That’s it. When a woman has to go through 1% of what a typical non-alpha man has to go through then maybe she can talk about having actual problems. Until that happens women should keep their mouths shut.
Exactly. We need to stop talking about men raping women to focus on the much more important issue of women not having sex with White and Nerdy.
But I am wondering about one thing. Is it possible that the women in question were asking for fried rice instead of fried ice? Because fried rice is totally a thing, and if you call up the proper restaurant someone will literally bring it to your door.
Now I’m hungry.
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Posted on November 14, 2011, in alpha males, creepy, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, idiocy, incel, manginas, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, oppressed white men, pussy cartel, rape, rapey, sexual harassment, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 613 Comments.
ASIA! IT’S SPIRITUAL! ESPECIALLY THE PARTS WHERE WE DO PILATES
The beginning of the second act, yes? I did catch that.
Apparently zie thinks that we’re going to be scared that at some point in our lives zir reader will see what we said XD
“Girl love.” Blech. The fact that the more famous male organization uses “love” in its name infuriates me more than I can say. And on that ugly note, I’m going to bed.
Hey, maybe by morning the mystery of how sex with consenting adults influences your value as a human will be solved!
Apparently, the concept of “Butterfly Kisses” has, um, evolved:
The “Butterfly Kisses” dance is for the purpose of promoting healthy father/daughter relationships; to give fathers or father figures the opportunity to give their daughters a positive self-concept, and the expectation of being treated with respect by the men in their lives. This dance gives dads the opportunity to set the dating standards for their daughter at an early age, and may stave off countless pitfalls offered by a society that glorifies immorality. This also gives dads an opportunity to create a special memory with his daughter that she will remember for years ot come. The concept is taken from a story featured in Focus on the Family magazine.
http://www.encoreencore.org/home/box-1/
Um…ew?
@Captain Bathrobe:
At least that’s not as terrible as the dances where girls give their dad their virginity… to keep until they find someone to marry. That one’s a little more overt in either the “my daughter is my property, time to trade her for some goats” or “weird incesty ephebophilic subtext gone horribly awry.”
EWWWWWWWW wuttt???
“’weird incesty ephebophilic subtext gone horribly awry.’”
That sums up what I always think of when I hear about “Purity Dances”, only I hadn’t been able to express it as well. :P
Huh, I just had a random thought. The reason that NWO is against these ephebophilic organizations is not because of the ephebophiles. He’s actually for having sex with children. What he’s against is that the members are gay (in his mind anyway). A man having sex with a boy is abominable. A man having sex with a girl, well she was flaunting it anyway, and why can’t I have a pleasant and innocent conversation about sex with an underage girl anyway? [more sarcasm for FF's sake]
In other word, FactFinder, she confirms your asinine preconceptions, despite the fact she represents no one here but herself. Nice to see you admit you’re full of shit.
“Ideas have consequences. Vile, hateful ideas have vile, hateful consequences.”
If David can take one quotation from a self-proclaimed or perceived MRA and claim it represents the Men’s Rights Movement, I can do the same for feminism.
Vile, hateful ideas have vile, hateful consequences.
http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=27
I notice the feminists here keep referring to me as a “her.” I could throw a hissyfit about it but I am an adult and adults avoid that sort of thing whenever possible. Children and toddlers throw tantrums and make longwinded rationalizations for their cruelty.
Ok, I’m sorry FactFinder… But what the cheese? How exactly does a forum called “men are better than women” indicate vile, hateful ideas from feminists? I glanced at a couple topics, and it looks like they all consist of some troll labeled with an ip address, then thrown to the dogs. Hardly making your point. An anti male-supremacist does not a feminist make.
(still waiting on that pronoun change in your post, btw)
Ah, the reputable source http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com. I’m sure if I followed that link I’d see some Pulitzer-quality reporting.
I am also interested in knowing about how what I consensually do with my vagina affects my morality.
NWO: Men who have sex with lots of women for the sex are fine. Men who have creepy misogynistic RPGs on the Internet in which women count as a point are not. This is not that hard to comprehend.
Man, I never got any monetary goodies from my sex.
NWO, we went over this. I am not accepting evidence from you, because you keep calling me a slut, and because you think Russian and Spanihs use the same alphabet. If you can provide a person connected to this plane of reality that says something is a good idea, then we shall talk.
NSWATM only rarely has posts about men in skirts. It’s not that pressing of an issue! Our last three posts, for instance, relate to men and virginity, a movement to encourage men to express their emotions and getting involved in sexual violence work while male. On the other hand, men should be allowed to wear skirts, because why should we arbitrarily limit men from doing things based on their gender? That’s very misandric.
FF thinks there’s a non-misogynist MRA? Of course zie does; zie thinks being anti-abortion isn’t misogyny. Tell ya what, FF, why don’t ya tell us who you think isn’t hateful? You say David’s misrepresenting the MRM? Pony up. And bear in mind these people need to debraid at least some of the Boob Roll without praising any of it, since you claim David is ‘cherry picking’ and misrepresenting the MRM.
FactFinder, David quotes a variety of different MRAs from a variety of MRA websites. They are all extremes and trash women in one way or another.
And is Dick Masterson an MRA now? I thought he was just some lout making money off of shock value/frat humor.
I really would like to see a massive experiment done where a large group of men and women are separated for a year and see how things pan out….
Whoa, what the shit? They post identifying information absent a death threat? What a fucking asshole.
@Quackers:
From FactFinder: “If David can take one quotation from a self-proclaimed or perceived MRA and claim it represents the Men’s Rights Movement, I can do the same for feminism.”
He thinks that that website somehow shows the terrors you can find amongst feminists. Yeah…
It’s funny to me how much NWO just can’t control his inner homophobe. I say much nastier things to him than Ozy does, as do several other people, but he just can’t leave Ozy alone because omg sluts, gender raunch, etc. (I don’t think he’s noticed my blog yet, since it’s full of pictures of men in makeup.) It’s like MRAL and his hate-on for Holly – each of them just can’t help obsessing over whichever comments push their particular rage buttons.
Also, ugh, the purity balls. Nothing says healthy family dynamics like giving your father your unbroken hymen as a gift when you’re a tweener.
Side note – I’m actually surprised not to have seen any MRAs advocating for the removal of incest laws preventing fathers from having sex with their daughters. It’s really the only remaining way to be creepy about adolescent girls that they haven’t explored.
Where did I claim Dick Masterson was a MRA?
@Kirbywarp
Ahh…ok. I must have missed what FactFinder was trying to point out. Because it makes no sense. And I just skimmed a few posts that insulted Dick Masterson then closed the site because it was dumb.
@FactFinder:
Wow, Rutee was right. You really do just run away from anyone who challenges you, don’t you? Not before putting them up on your little hate-shrine of a blog, I guess…
Riled up? Good, now answer me this. How exactly do you propose to take a forum called “men are better than women” and use it to demonstrate the evils of feminism?
@Quackers:
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I did too. I saw a site similar to that a while ago… can’t remember what it was called… There was a troll section of the forum where all “trolls” were put in so that people could make fun of them. Seems like it’s the same deal.
“Side note – I’m actually surprised not to have seen any MRAs advocating for the removal of incest laws preventing fathers from having sex with their daughters. It’s really the only remaining way to be creepy about adolescent girls that they haven’t explored.”
Don’t speak so soon. There was one comment left on one of the blogs where the guy asked how it is that alpha fathers keep from being attracted to their daughters and another that I said, “man I’m glad I’m not a dad. I’d probably wind up attracted to my daughter.”
By the way, what is “gender raunch”?
I’m not riled up, so I can’t really answer your question. You seem to be projecting your hurt onto others.
@FactFinder:
Erm, actually, you can answer my questions. Both questions, in fact, or at least you should. Are you riled up? The answer is apparently no. What does your link have to do with feminism?
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Still waiting for an answer on that one. And that pronoun switch in your post… :P
“By the way, what is “gender raunch”?”
I have no idea, but NWO keeps accusing Ozy of it.
(Side note: the “riling up” thing was just to get you to answer the dang question, so apparently that worked. Nice try on the snap psychoanalysis anyway, I wouldn’t quit your day job.)
Gender raunch sounds like something crossed between gender ranch and some sort of crunching or chewing noise. Is he accusing you of being a polygamist lesbian?
The ways in which NWOs mind work are mysterious. I think he may mean crossdressing? It’s hard to tell what he’s on about given the combination of puritanism and creepy sexual interest in children that characterises his worldview.
Gender raunch is probably a non-traditional, non-gender binary. Its gross and evil and sinful and goes hand in hand with those feminist homosexual deviants who have sex in positions other than missionary! like women on top..its misandry I tells ya!!!
Jen D’Raunch would make a good stage name
“Gender raunch sounds like something crossed between gender ranch and some sort of crunching or chewing noise. ”
When I first came across that terminology I misread it as “gender ranch” and pictured an actual ranch out west and The Manson Family for some reason. Then I thought it must be a ranch where people go pre or post op.
Well, Brandon already informed me that I like submissive men because I’m a feminist. Maybe I like men who’re androgynous because I’m misandrist?
Viscaria -
It’s because, much like rights, sex is a zero-sum game. These women who are having so much sex are being selfishly greedy. Stop hogging all the sex, ladies! Even the awesome sex with your nice boyfriends/girlfriends! You are why so many perfect young men are angrily threatening women online, and then angrily jacking off into a curled-up roll of silicone rubber stuffed into a mayonnaise jar while they angrily dream of the day when they can muster up the angry nerve to go out and angrily try to pick up women at a local club.
This and only this is why “slut” was invented as an insult. Because of the chronic sex shortages that expert online scienticians have directly correlated, why not, with sad and angry men not getting any.
Think of the MRAs!
Ha, oh fuck. I joined a sentence and accidentally cut out shit.
This and only this is why “slut” was invented as an insult. Because of the chronic sex shortages that expert online scienticians have directly correlated, why not, with chronic orgasmic activity in women, and men who look like Brad Pitt (but handsome). Continued sexual fun, in excess of between 1-10 times a week, serves only to flood our Earth with sad and angry men not getting any.
Think of the MRAs!
OSHIII:
Amazing that your sentence still made sentence even while accidentally the middle part. It must be really late.
NWO: And yet you didn’t address the ACTUAL POINT of my post: That some MRAs seem to think that life is all unicorns and rainbows and fucking glitter for women. Maybe it is for some women, I don’t know. Mine isn’t. Therefore, not all women enjoy charmed lives ensured by the force of the Illuminati Reptile Overlords.
Very late. When I can’t sleep and stay up reading, my ability to make myself focus on things goes rought out the window. At this point I often find myself skimming things without really reading.
Gender raunch is a kind of salad dressing.
“Funny, some of my favourite women novelists are famous for their depictions of lives of quiet desperation. Spoiler: Often they weren’t writing about men.”
Actually, I would posit that the cushiness of women’s lives is the reason why they consistently fail to produce any masterpieces in any of the artistic mediums – such as prose as you mentioned.
Consider the following:
– Conflict is the basis of any good story.
– It’s beneficial to write from experience. *
Already you can see why women just can’t seem to write good stories. Unlike men, women aren’t really tempered by the kinds of struggles and worries and desperate attempts to define themselves in a chaotic world that men are. Their life is a constant stream of safety nets and freebies, and as a result they rarely develop any unique and interesting perspectives or have the kind of valuable experiences that can be translated into good fiction.
It’s a dirty business, but there’s a reason why so many writers, musicians and actors had shitty childhoods, adult lives or killed themselves. That kind of stuff breeds creativity and genius.
* I’m not saying that you’re forced to ‘write what you know’ here, just that it’s not as easy to sound sincere when you lack the rich life experiences. So women can write about loneliness or sexual frustration all they want for example, but it’d be about as convincing as Donald Trump writing a novel about a poverty-stricken underclass boy trying to make ends meet.
FYI, Peter Andrew Nolan posted on menarebetterthanwoman.com as “newly single” then “globalman”, he also donated money to Dick Masterson as he thought he was an MRA. I think the general consensus is Dick Masterson is a comedian who is making money from delusional MRAs.
Arks, please tell us of your personal sufferings as a man and a provide a sample of your superior prose resulting from your struggle through life.
“Arks, please tell us of your personal sufferings as a man and a provide a sample of your superior prose resulting from your struggle through life.”
In other words, “I’d like to see you do better! neener neener neener!”
Still, you provide a good example of the kind of arrested development I’m talking about in women. While men develop their understanding of logic, cause-and-effect and reasoning through conflict and self-development, women like yourselves, who have the privelege of coasting through life, never progress beyond that infant-like perspective.
So take that you big smelly poopyhead.
So, some men do, just not you?
Am I right?
David Icke is a perfect example of a man with a well-developed “understanding of logic, cause-and-effect and reasoning through conflict and self-development,” don’t you think? Does anyone else want to propose some equally brilliant examples? How about Andrew Wakefield?
See, this kind of foolishness is absurdly simple to debunk. Then, of course, there’s Arks himself, who seems detached from logic, causal relationships, and so on, especially if he thinks that women don’t produce good art and that this is a result of cushy lives.
Oh, and Arks may want to note that the only use of the term “Arrested Development” accepted by the medical community these days concerns a TV show featuring David Cross.
Arks: Two really good female writers, off the top of my head: Laurie R King and Lois McMaster Bujold. Or how about Jane Austen? Gwerful Mechain? Hmmmm… Sherri Tepper. Virginia Woolf. bell hooks. Jeanne Ray. Rita Mae Brown.
Arks: You seriously call being broke, unemployed, depressed and in constant pain coasting through life? Is someone who spent six months watching their father slowly disappear as cancer ate his brain and go straight into full time, live in caretaking for their grandmother with Alzheimer’s for two years (who also dies after a protracted battle with pneumonia) just skating along on Big Brother’s dime? Because it sure as shit didn’t work out that way for me. I’m not claiming life is a garden path for men, but saying that women lead a charmed existence due to the simple fact of their gender is really, really fucking stupid. And insulting.
Hmm, what’s the best option to embed YouTube videos here?
I agree, but would also add that, just like the girls that they disparage of, the ones who they say don’t give the time of day to the boys who, like themselves, aren’t Brad Pitt look-alikes (I’m just keeping with the seemingly popular “Brad Pitt” theme here), they don’t notice the girls who aren’t Angelina Jolie look-alikes, and believe that having “game” will “make” those unattainable girls want them. Snake oil, for sure!!
The problem with Arks’s argument is that for every starving artist in a garret that he can come up with, I can name an artist of equivalent or superior stature who was born into wealth and privilege and who wanted for nothing.
And, more to the point, artists often managed to achieve what they achieved thanks to the support of their family – most specifically their partner’s willingness to take on all the tedious, time-sucking domestic chores that get in the way of creating their masterpieces. Until comparatively recently, it was vanishingly rare for that partner to be male.
I coined the idea of ‘sexual marxism” because it’s what many MRAs want : Eliminate the upper class (the alpha males) and after that, the government assign a virgin supermodel to each of the beta.
I’ve read the epic battle between the pro and anti-game and I don’t think that the anti-game have won, game is still popular in the manosphere. As an example there a Christian guy called Dalrock that admire Roissy/Heartiste and Roosh and says that pastors should learn game :
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/12/game-for-pastors-part-i/
Hey, if you want an example of a woman who turned her pain and struggles into art, check out Artemesia Gentileschi. What she went through in the process of becoming one of her era’s most acclaimed artists is pretty harrowing.
I have one name for you, you insipid fool. Maria Anna Mozart. She was as brilliant as her brother Wolfgang, and her father brought them both on tour as children. She often received top billing above her brother. However, because she was female, as soon as she was old enough to marry she was sent back home and her musical talents were ignored. Their parents focused all of their energies on Wolfgang from that point on.
She’s also the perfect example of why men like you are full of shit when they try to claim that women aren’t capable of artistic greatness. Just because the talent is being ignored does not mean it doesn’t exist.
NWO, insightful as ever:
“@Shora
“I’m twenty years old and I pay for all of my expenses while going to school full time. I have to balance working enough to eat and pay rent while also leaving enough time to study so I can maybe get a real job after I graduate.”
You pay for all your own expenses plus college on a part time job? Well hell, that’s about what, 40k a year for no more than 20 hours of work a week? Let me give you a piece of advice. Quit school and go full time with your present part time job. With a little overtime, maybe a total of 45 hours of work a week, you’ll pull down a 100k a year.”
Firstly, student loans/government educational grants. Hundred quid a week does not pay for college fees O.o.
Secondly, dude, if I had the opportunity to make 100k a year out of my part time, minimum wage job, I wouldn’t have bothered going to college. Why, the economy is so thriving that small retail businesses are just throwing money at people these days. Seriously, do you live in a cave on Mars?
And here’s another: Clara Schumann, wife of Robert Schumann.
Now there’s little serious doubt he was the greater composer in terms of achievement – but she was no mean talent herself as both composer and performer, and if she hadn’t devoted much of her life to raising their children (eight in total, just one of whom died in infancy), as well as running her husband’s life and financial affairs (especially as he became increasingly mentally unstable), who’s to say that she wouldn’t have achieved far more?
In fact, her achievements are pretty damn impressive given the many, many other pressures on her life – she’d certainly have been a significant figure in 19th-century German music even if it hadn’t been for her famous husband. Indeed, for most (perhaps even all?) of their time together she was the major earner as a renowned concert pianist.
Gratz kirby on making it to FactFinder’s blog. Though, if the what he quoted you on was what he considered a “fact”, then god help him.
Feminists having fun!!! It’s satire!!! This must be the artistic greatness to which blitzgal is alluding. To Ozy, Holly, Molly and all the rest who I’ve neglected to note have blogs. Don’t bother pretending to care about men, this video is feminism. I gave all of you a chance to petition against tyranny.
Arks:
As anyone with an education could tell you there are many damed fine woman writers out there, plenty of whom suffered greatly and showed great character and perseverance in pursuing their professions. KathleenB has already mentioned some, to which I would add Sylvia Plath, Emily Dickinson and the Bronte sisters. Women are not and never have been immune to life’s sufferings, nor has there always been a “safety net” to catch them. Shit happens and it happens to everyone, regardless of gender. Women do not live protected lives, most of us work, raise families, deal with money issues, serious illness, foundering relationships and indeed, everything that most men need to deal with.
When you talk about women being protected in the past, you are looking at a tiny subset of women from wealthy and/or noble families, who may have been coddled to some extent but they paid for that with complete lack of freedom and obedience to father, husband and later, sons. Working class women, who were far more numerous, worked hard, under harrowing conditions, which eventually often killed them. Women and children worked down mines, in unsafe conditions, just like men did during the Industrial Revolution. Working in mills, which was the other main option, was no safer. Women who worked on and made their living from helping to run farms were left destitute along with their families during the enclosure and I see no safety net there for man, woman or child. They either starved or they moved to the forming industrial and mining areas, where they tended to live very short, hard lives. If my memory serves the life expectancy of a woman miner or mill worker was about six years. And this was less than 150 years ago.
To say that women live and have always lived easy, cushy lives is just ignorant bullshit. Go and read a book on Shaftsbury or the Industrial revolution.
NWO that video was sick. No one here condones that kind of shit.
Off the top of my head I can think of Maria de Zayas (The Disenchantments of Love, etc.), whoever the author of La Princesse de Cleves is (it’s uncertain, usually Madame de Lafayette), and Murasaki Shikibu (The Tale of Genji). Three aristocratic women who made great art and also likely had comparatively cushy lives for their day. Thus, even if you agreed with Arks’ stupid ideas about women as a group having more secure lives than men, zie is still wrong.
Protip: you have to actually have a thing before you can explain why that thing is.
“this video is feminism”
That was five psychotic women, not feminism. I’m really, really hoping it was faked. That shouldn’t happen to anyone (note: anyONE, meaning “any man,” “any woman,” “any child.” Hell, an animal doesn’t deserve that.)
I think NWO is disappointed we’re not cheering these women on.
I don’t even understand what NWO’s video is about. What’s SCUM?
@Joanna:
Agreed. I’m honestly feeling a little gut-punched. Throwing up at that might still be an option, as far as my stomach is concerned.
And I should probably say “six psychotic women,” as there was someone behind the camera. I can’t imagine what has to happen to a person to get that fucked up. They should be locked up for life with daily visits to a psychiatrist.
It looks fake to me – if you look at the angle of the gun and the angle of his head when it’s actually fired, there’s no way that it could have produced two bullet holes in those positions.
This is quite aside from the fact from the fact that you can clearly see their faces – if it was an actual murder, I suspect they’d have been keener to hide themselves.
I also note that despite being uploaded over a year ago, it has yet to notch up 2,000 viewings – indeed, a look at the stats reveals a big spike today.
Anyway, how is a silly horror video supposed to be representative of feminism? Are we to regard videos of black men being lynched (faked or otherwise) as representative of mainstream conservative opinion? NWO’s logic would suggest we should.
SCUM: Society for Cutting Up Men. A horrid pseudo-philosophy written by Valerie Solanas (who shot Warhol) that condones and encourages the elimination of men.
I suspect they take their name from Valerie Solanas’ SCUM Manifesto. She’s the woman who shot Andy Warhol.
One of my favourite extraordinary women is Augusta Ada Byron, better known as Ada Lovelace, the mathematician. She died from uterine cancer at the age of 36 but still had time to revolutionize computer programming and have three children.
I don’t believe that only suffering produces great art (great artists produce great art), if we’re talking about suffering artists, how about Frida Kahlo who survived childhood polio and later a bus accident that led to seven operations, who began painting to escape her lifelong pain, and is considered one of the greatest artists of the 20th century?
In terms of political influence through writing, writer and anti-slavery campaigner Harriet Beecher Stowe is worth mentioning, as her best seller “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” helped to popularise the anti slavery campaign.
NWO:
And you actually believe that the people here would condone that kind of bullshit? Even if it’s a joke it’s in the worst possible taste if it isn’t then they all belong in gaol and I hope they get there.