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MRA: Who cares if #MenCallYouThings? It’s not like women have any real problems.

Fried rice. Frequently confused with "fried ice."

Oh, ladies, must you complain so much? I mean, who cares if every time you say something on the internet some random dude threatens to rape you? White and Nerdy, the dude behind the Omega Virgin Revolt blog, doesn’t care, and he wants you to know it:

#mencallmethings is just another example of how women (in first world countries) don’t have any actual problems.  Between the government and manginas doing everything for women, no woman has any true problems.  Any “problem” a woman has is because of one of these reasons:

1. A desire for the equivalent of fried ice.  IOW she wants something that is physically impossible.

2. Failed attempts at defrauding, stealing from, or otherwise attempting to enslave men.

That’s it.  When a woman has to go through 1% of what a typical non-alpha man has to go through then maybe she can talk about having actual problems.  Until that happens women should keep their mouths shut.

Exactly. We need to stop talking about men raping women to focus on the much more important issue of women not having sex with White and Nerdy.

But I am wondering about one thing. Is it possible that the women in question were asking for fried rice instead of fried ice? Because fried rice is totally a thing, and if you call up the proper restaurant someone will literally bring it to your door.

Now I’m hungry.

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Posted on November 14, 2011, in alpha males, creepy, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, idiocy, incel, manginas, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, oppressed white men, pussy cartel, rape, rapey, sexual harassment, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 613 Comments.

  1. Tell me your problems White and Nerdy! I’m all ears =D

  2. Verbal Abuse, up to and including actual Assault (Legal sense): Not as bad as not fucking WAN (And let’s not pretend this is a misrepresentation, trolls; the blog is titled Omega Virgin Revolt, the actual genesis of the blog is reasonably simple to guess); this is a blogger with his priorities in order, yepperoni! XD

  3. Erm, I hate to tell him this, but fried ice is pretty easy. We already have fried ice cream, after all!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_ice_cream

  4. Is MRAL around? I think we just found him a new best friend.

  5. I’m twenty years old and I pay for all of my expenses while going to school full time. I have to balance working enough to eat and pay rent while also leaving enough time to study so I can maybe get a real job after I graduate. The last two weeks were big midterm weeks, so I couldn’t work as much and now I’m worried about making rent. Let’s not even talk about the upcoming traveling expenses so I can see my mother (who i haven’t seen in a few months) for Thanksgiving, the medications I’m running out of, and food.

    What I’m saying here is that White and Nerdy can go fuck himself. Seriously.

    (Just as an aside, this is not a sob story about how my life is so hard. My life is actually pretty great 80% of the time. This is just to state that I, as a women, certainly do have some real fucking problems, okay?)

  6. MRAL and WAN should go bowling and bitch about bitches.

  7. What is with this whole alpha thing? Whilst I wouldn’t discount psychological or sociological theories on personality types, the MRAs seem to treat these Alpha, Beta and whatnot labels like some immutable laws of nature. It’s really really odd to me, and seems like it’s over-simplifying human society to an absurd degree.

    It’s even inconsistent to the degree of insulting ‘alphas’ whilst simultaneously whining that they aren’t ones themselves.

    Am I missing something?

  8. @Shora: Me too! Actually I could only earn an ordinary degree cos I couldn’t afford to give time to my honors degree. =( If I quit my job, I’d have starved and ended up homeless. I stayed with my job but my degree suffered as a result =( Not to mention being sick countless times cos I couldn’t afford heating for the house I was living in =( =(

    Maybe if I told the college I was a woman they’d give me an honors degree. The MRA’s say that’s how it works, right?

  9. The first time I considered suicide my age was in the single digits.

    Oh, no, do go on, White and Nerdy. I’m listening to your tremendously horrible problems. You can’t get laid? You poor thing.

  10. Joanna, you should have sat in the quad and cried. Then you definitely would have gotten your honors degree.

  11. “Joanna, you should have sat in the quad and cried. Then you definitely would have gotten your honors degree.”

    *smacks forehead* Genius! I should have though of that before!

  12. Men work for happiness, women are given it for free.

    Men lead lives of quiet desperation, women lead lives of idyllic happiness.

    Such is life for the expendable gender.

  13. Arks, you are on the fucking moon.

  14. Arks: Sure, men are the only people in this world who are poor, or in constant pain, or unemployed. Only men suffer depression and crippling anxiety. Gods, you are a fuckwit.

    And yes, all of those apply to me.

  15. Thanks for taking the time to read the comments, Arks.

    Also, I dunno that “quiet desperation” is the right description for someone who spends most of his time whining about how evil women are on the internet. The “quiet” part just doesn’t seem to fit, somehow.

  16. @Cassandrasays: damn right! Where is that manly stoicism that is the manly indicator of oh so manly men? I shouldn’t have to listen to any more guys whining about how they cannot show their emotions–as far as I’m concerned, they can talk about all their emotions all they want as long as I am not expected to listen, respond, or pay attention.

    Bad enough I have to fake paying attention for the administrators….

  17. “Men work for happiness, women are given it for free.”

    Free happiness??? Where???

  18. Is this like the “free hugs” signs that some people like to hold at conventions? You just walk up and they hand you one free happiness?

  19. Damn it, now I want fried rice. You think it’ll the help situation if I complain about how women get all the fried rice without working for it?

  20. In times like this, it’s edifying to pop over to some feminist websites and see what actual feminists are actually complaining about. Or if they’re even complaining.

    The five most recent posts on Feministing:
    1. Praise for a new birth control info website.
    2. Answering an all-male “Top 100 DJs” list with a list of top female DJs.
    3. Criticism of a NYT article downplaying workplace sexual harassment.
    4. Link to a podcast on the Penn State scandal.
    5. News on a Supreme Court hearing on health care reform.

    Okay, how about Feministe?
    1. A post on the Penn State scandal.
    2. A post on the defeated “personhood” state amendment and pro-life legal tactics.
    3. A campaign to stop New York police from using possession of condoms as evidence of prostitution.
    4. The Duggars’ announcement of child #20.
    5. A link to an article about feeling old and uncool on the Internet.

    Project for the day: figure out which posts fall into Category 1 (fried ice) and which are Category 2 (enslaving men). I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised!

  21. Arks, you can go fuck yourself.

    That’s pretty much all I have to say to people who minimize and scoff at the real work I do for myself. I don’t mind it, and I feel pretty proud of myself for being able to do so much on my own at my age. However, I am not going to entertain debates with people who call my life one of “idyllic happiness,” and I’m certainly not going to respond in a mature or respectful way.

  22. You know, if we took a block of ice to Glasgow I’m fairly certain that my countrymen could find a way to deep fry it. They’ve already done it with pizzas and Mars bars.

  23. Damn it, now I want fried rice. You think it’ll the help situation if I complain about how women get all the fried rice without working for it?

    Once I went over to a guy’s house and he gave me some fried rice he’d made, so you may have a point there xD

  24. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go sit in the street and cry until someone brings me fried rice.

  25. Lol @ CassandraSays. Ever see that episode of King of the Hill where they get a deep fat fryer, and deep fry everything? XD

  26. Also, I’d like to point out that this is yet another example of MRA’s deliberately misunderstanding women to try to make them look bad.

    What I actually wanted was fried ice cream

  27. Glasgow and deep fried foods is sort of a variation of Rule 34 – if a food exists, someone in Glasgow has at some point attempted to deep fry it.

  28. Deep fried ice cream looks fucking awesome!

  29. I’ve had it before, Joanna. It’s fuckin glorious.

  30. Oh, Arks, you are full of shit. But if you need to think that garbage to get you through the day, knock yourself out. I’m sure NWO will come along soon and co-sign your delusions.

  31. Funny how the response of many anti-feminists to #mencallmethings is that women have no problems and need to shut up…when the whole point of voicing these experience is to express that no amount of pressure is going to work in shutting us up. You can threaten me. You can demean me. You can invalidate me. It simply doesn’t matter. Me and my vagina will do what we want when we want. My lack of problems is none of White and Nerdy’s concern, although concerned he seems.

  32. Do you think Jay Z is an MRA?

  33. Jill the Spinster

    If you’re having girl problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems and bitches cause every single one?

  34. Translation: If you women aren’t telling men how great we are than you should shut it!

  35. No Cuntry 4 Old Men!

    “Exactly. We need to stop talking about men raping women to focus on the much more important issue of women not having sex with White and Nerdy.”

    From each according to her ability, to each according to his need.

  36. Is Arks a troll or not? He seems like a troll.

  37. “Men lead lives of quiet desperation.”

    Funny, some of my favourite women novelists are famous for their depictions of lives of quiet desperation. Spoiler: Often they weren’t writing about men.

  38. Alex, I think Arks is a troll, and in the old school sense of posting this shit as a joke. But I’m not sure. He recently posted some stuff that seemed oddly sincere.

    CONFIDENTIAL TO MRAL: Please try posting comments that aren’t entirely personal attacks, and that don’t contain the word “princess.” They are more likely to make it past me.

  39. the MRAs seem to treat these Alpha, Beta and whatnot labels like some immutable laws of nature

    Just a clarification, those guys obsessed with alpha, beta and other evo-psych gibberish are gamers, not MRAs.

    A few of them tried to latch onto the MRA movement and come suck resources off of us, but we just finished a big fight/debate last week – trying to distance ourselves from them and we largely succeeded, letting them know we want nothing to do with them.

  40. “Just a clarification, those guys obsessed with alpha, beta and other evo-psych gibberish are gamers, not MRAs.”

    So gamers and MRAs are in two completely different venn diagrams? I don’t get it.

  41. Damn, but it’s frustrating. I honestly do not understand how someone can talk about how hard it is to long for female companionship/sexual contact, two seconds later talk about how they figure women are whiny bitches without real problems, and not see how that attitude is likely to keep women away, the exact opposite of what they want to do. Reading the comments at Omega Virgin Revolt is an exercise in hair-pulling.

  42. Just a clarification, those guys obsessed with alpha, beta and other evo-psych gibberish are gamers, not MRAs.

    You might want to tell that to our resident “Men’s Rights Activist Lieutenant”. He obviously hasn’t gotten the memo.

  43. yea, I have zero sympathy for all these whiners who think they are facing the greatest oppression because they can’t get laid. Sorry, I only care about people who face true oppression. Ie all the men, women, and child victims of rape and torture all around the world. Underage children who are forced into slavery. The fact that rape victims still suffer in silence everywhere because they get no justice.

    These incel losers are even more pathetic because they probably could actually get laid. The problem is they wouldn’t want to unless the lady in question is exceptionally pretty, thin and under 25. Any woman who doesn’t fit that standard is garbage and doesn’t even exist in their world, so of course all the ladies have it so easy! because they base their perceptions of all our lives on the ones who are exceptionally pretty.

  44. The MRA is mighty attractive to different interests who keep trying to hijack it for their interests. They’ve all failed so far.

    -> The last attempt was by the gamers who keep trying to pretend to be a part of the MRA or “the solution” for MRAs.

    -> Previously we had to deal with so-cons who wanted to push their right-wing 50’s agenda onto the MRA

    Gamers and PUAs are basically a mix of a cult and a commercial snake-oil-industry that seeks men to sell it’s magic-bullet-evo-psych-crap to. They infiltrate any group that has a high-percentage of males and try to pretend to be it’s core or representative until people find them out and kick them out. With MRA we kicked them out pretty fast. Anyone

    Gamers are basically parasites.

    If you want to see more on this divide, see the “chateau bullshit” article on AVoiceForMen, the leading MRA site. And the following 6 part debate between gamers and MRAs. It got nasty, but by the end we finally kicked them out.

    FYI:

    Mra has an A at the end which stands for “activism”. A lot of what futrelle does is funny, he’s good at it, but he often references sites that are basically whinefests and calls them “mra”, even when the sites themselves don’t call them that. Heck, he often references sites that themselves attack MRA, lol.

    The only major MRA portal in the world right now is AVoiceForMen.

  45. Jill the Spinster

    It’s not MRA vs PUA, it’s MGTOW vs PUA, both of which fall under the MRA umbrella.

  46. So… how did you identify them as gamers…?

  47. I really wish White and Nerdy had chosen a different name. I’m a Weird Al fan, and seeing his song used as an MRA moniker is just sad.

    A few of them tried to latch onto the MRA movement and come suck resources off of us, but we just finished a big fight/debate last week – trying to distance ourselves from them and we largely succeeded, letting them know we want nothing to do with them.

    I think there’s still a ton of overlap between MRA’s and gamers. Look at Roissy. His gamer blog is full of MRA issues.

  48. Keep fightin’ the good fight, AlekNovy! Get some recognition for those True Scotsmen!

  49. They should drop the “A” entirely.

  50. Gamers and PUAs are basically a mix of a cult and a commercial snake-oil-industry that seeks men to sell it’s magic-bullet-evo-psych-crap to. They infiltrate any group that has a high-percentage of males and try to pretend to be it’s core or representative until people find them out and kick them out. With MRA we kicked them out pretty fast. Anyone

    Gamers are basically parasites.

    I can’t believe I’m agreeing with Alek Novy, though I doubt his objection to game has anything to do with the manipulative, sociopathic, misogynist and borderline-rapey teachings. Isn’t more to do with “DONT FUCK WOMEN OR THEY’LL FALSELY ACCUSE YOU OF RAPE IF YOU SUCKED IN BED OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!11″

    Man, even when I agree with you guys I disagree at the same time.

  51. Jill, you sound like a PUA :D The whole point of the debate we had at AVFM was to kick out the PUAs who claim to be “just another side of MRA like MGTOW”…

    That’s BS, and we proved it. Gamers are now officially non-grata on the biggest MRA portal in the world, they’re banned, and any mention of gamer, pua crap is moderated.

    Gamers always infiltrate groups and claim to be “a part of them”… That’s why the PUA cult grew so large. They just go and infiltrate other groups and hijack members.

    Here’s the official MRA stance on gamers

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/game/chateau-bullshit/

    This followed up by a 6 part debate, after which gamers have officially been kicked out.

    I think there’s still a ton of overlap between MRA’s and gamers.

    The only people claiming that overlap are gamers. They come to other groups and say “we’re you, come learn game, it solves everyone of your problems magically”.

    MRAs tolerated them for a while as the annoying kid, but we finally figured out we need to officially distance ourselves when people actually started believing that gamers are part of MRA.

    The notion has been called by the two leading MRA thinkers as “the most idiotic and pathetic conflation ever”.

  52. No Cuntry 4 Old Men!

    “He views womankind’s seeming refusal to sleep with “Omegas” as the most pressing social issue of our time.”

    When I read “gamer” I think video gamer, not “game”-gamer/PUA. Black people call game-gamers players/playas. As usual, white dudes miss the ball on this one.

    MRAs are Marxists: From each according to her ability, to each according to his need. And they believe the government should intervene and assign them a mate, while PUAs believe in the Sexual Free Market where competition is cutthroat.

  53. Erm… There’s an official voice for the MRM? Elected or self-appointed?

  54. They’ve been officially kicked out? What, did the Grand High Council excommunicate them?

  55. “When I read “gamer” I think video gamer, not “game”-gamer/PUA. Black people call game-gamers players/playas. As usual, white dudes miss the ball on this one.”

    Yeah same here lol.

  56. I can’t believe I’m agreeing with Alek Novy, though I doubt his objection to game has anything to do with the manipulative, sociopathic, misogynist and borderline-rapey teachings.

    You’re close on the first part. Yes, I don’t hate game for “being manipulative”, mostly because it’s a total scam. It’s like pheronomones.

    Hating game for being manipulative, is like hating someone for wearing pheromones. Sure, they had an intention of manipulating someone, but they’re just a big freaking dope buying snake-oil.

    No woman falls for that crap. Do you guys SERIOUSLY believe that women fall for this crap? I’ve interviewed hundreds of women after they interacted with gamers. It’s transparent. The women laugh behind the guy’s face, it’s a big joke.

    Even when a woman does hook up with a gamer, it’s in *spite* of the stuff he does, not because of it. She forgives the creepy game stuff he does, because he’s cute or whatever.

    I hate it because it’s freaking snake-oil sold to desperate boys who need a good kick in the butt. It turns most guys into weird freaky social oddities and stunts their growth by a good 5-10 years.

    I’ve never seen a cult that destroys as many lives as thoroughly as the PUA/gamer cult.

    Isn’t more to do with “DONT FUCK WOMEN OR THEY’LL FALSELY ACCUSE YOU OF RAPE IF YOU SUCKED IN BED OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!11″

    If you read my debates with gamers you will see my and (paul elam’s) basic stance is take a shower, get a life, and let women show up. If you have confidence, you’ll start noticing there’s women that want you – no magic tricks required.

    A lot of these bozos who fall for the game crap are insecure boys who don’t even notice there’s a ton of girls who want them, if they just opened their eyes and stopped trying to “make” girls want them.

    If he (the average kid falling for it), opened his eyes, he’d notice there’s a ton of girls who already like him, for who he is, but he’s too insecure to notice.

  57. Erm… There’s an official voice for the MRM? Elected or self-appointed?

    Yes, seeing that’s just one major MRM site that is big-trafficked, approved of by 90% of self-labeled MRAs and actually does activism, I’d say yes.

    There isn’t even any competition. AVFM is the only MRA portal.

    They’ve been officially kicked out? What, did the Grand High Council excommunicate them?

    More like they started throwing tantrums, and started whining, and then ran away crying that the MRAs no longer want to take their crap. They have to back to trying to convince random insecure guys online that they can get you laid with magic tricks lol.

  58. No Cuntry 4 Old Men!

    “No woman falls for that crap. Do you guys SERIOUSLY believe that women fall for this crap? I’ve interviewed hundreds of women after they interacted with gamers. It’s transparent. The women laugh behind the guy’s face, it’s a big joke. ”

    Owen Cook’s baby mama is laughing all the way to the bank.

    Even the PUA “gurus” are simps.

  59. If you read my debates with gamers you will see my and (paul elam’s) basic stance is take a shower, get a life, and let women show up. If you have confidence, you’ll start noticing there’s women that want you – no magic tricks required.

    That is…eminently reasonable.

    And nothing I’ve heard from an MRA before, not that I’ve done an encyclopedic study.

  60. Alright Alek, I actually agree with you as far as how useful “game” is. Out of curiousity though, what would you think of it if it really did work?

  61. No Cuntry 4 Old Men!

    “If you read my debates with gamers you will see my and (paul elam’s) basic stance is take a shower, get a life, and let women show up.”

    “That is…eminently reasonable.
    And nothing I’ve heard from an MRA before, not that I’ve done an encyclopedic study.”

    Obsidian was asked to write a piece for the Spearhead and he wrote about male hygeine and how its important, not just for attracting women but for, well, the health and wellbeing of the man himself, and they banned him from ever writing their again. I believe the comment thread was close to 1,000 comments with angry posters disagreeing with him.

  62. When I read “gamer” I think video gamer, not “game”-gamer/PUA.

    Yeah, for a while I was trying to puzzle out why Alek was so against men who play video games.

  63. W ‘n’ N (and Ark):

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    You must have struck a nerve somewhere with manboobzers (and perhaps with feminists generally), given the venomous replies that you elicited.

    Women as the privileged sex? Could be! Haave nothing better to do, I guess.

    I wrote a few speculative posts (under duress of extreme aggravation) about 7 or 8 months ago, suggesting that feminists could be replaced with automation, and that we would be better off with “wifebots” or “cybercuties’, and they–many (wo)manboobzers–are spitting sparks about it to this day!

    Just thought that sombody would like to know that you are not the ONLY reasonable and observant men on this website,

    Once again, thank you for saying something that a lot of us are thinking, but too few of us are saying (yet)!

  64. Odd that the need to bathe would be controversial in any circle.

  65. Oh yeah Meller, we just can’t handle the mighty truth these fucking whiny idiots are laying down. Gods, you’re a pompous jack-ass.

  66. David, has SAVE’s recent political victory against Senator Leahy changed your view of the Men’s Rights Movement? Has the popular uprising against this radically feminist legislation caused you to reevaluate our strength as a political organization, or would you rather cognate an overcomplicated “Earth-is-flat” rationalization for this defeat so you can keep perceiving us as neolithic subhumans? I’m good either way.

  67. Jesus, Meller, if you want us to stop bringing up the fact that you want a wifebot, why don’t you start by not bringing it up?

    You narcissistic ass. you just can’t help yourself, can you?

  68. I’m curious as to how Alek intends to prevent gamers and other assorted geekboys from calling themselves MRAs. Pistols at dawn?

    ” The women laugh behind the guy’s face, it’s a big joke.”

    I used to laugh to their faces rather than behind their backs, but I guess I’m just a big meanie. Honestly, though, it’s hard not to when some oddly dressed young man sidles up to you, steels his shoulders, and then says “nice boobs – how much did you pay for them?”.

    Negging may well be the most asinine dating idea of all time, and that’s really saying something. As odd as it is to agree with Alek, yeah – any guy who buys into that crap is going to gain nothing but some credit card debt and a whole mountain of new issues to overcome. It’s not even snake oil in the sense of useless but probably harmless – it’s actively harmful to the people who buy into it.

    (To everyone else it’s just vaguely annoying. Except when adherents take the things it promises them seriously and act of the belief that those expectations were reasonable, because then sometimes they turn into Sodini.)

  69. @DKM:

    “I wrote a few speculative posts…”

    Do you write anything but speculative posts?

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