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Men Going Their Own Way baffled by lesbians, refuse to believe they exist

Silly lesbian! Girls are icky. Also, you probably don't even exist.

MGTOWers, mostly straight and mostly narrow, don’t really spend a lot of time discussing lesbians. Lesbians, after all, are not only women, but women who like other women — you know, like like. But recently one of the regulars on MGTOWforums.com discovered the concept of “lesbian bed death” – the mythological notion that lesbians in long term relationships barely ever have sex – and, well, a very strange conversation ensued. Shade47 started off the discussion with these, er, observations:

Looks like the super hip lesbos forgot the small fact that in lesbian relations no one ends up paying for sex so it doesn’t happen…

The, “we don’t need men not even for sex.” club isn’t a banging scene these days.

I guess this outcome should have been obvious since you can’t put a hole inside of a hole. I keep trying to picture that and it sends me in a logic loop like a computer tasked with calculating infinity. I just can’t grasp how nothing going into nothing can create the best thing since sliced bread. …

Shade47 is so baffled by lesbians that he refuses to believe that they actually exist:

Do you guys think women are really lesbians or is it just another form of “look at me” attention whoring? I mean they don’t have sex, they don’t reproduce, they don’t achieve financial success like the gay male community does. In fact I’m not sure exactly what lesbians are doing in their relationships. I still don’t believe they are real. In order for two people to come together there must be a very specific purpose and attention whoring is shallow even for women. They usually only shack up for babies and money.

Drauger seconded the notion that lesbians are imaginary:

What do you think would happy [if] you put [two] hateful women in a home together? Bliss? Bitches go fucking shit nuts if some man isn’t giving them attention.

Repeat after me: there is no such thing as a Lesbian, only really confused women. Women are by nature whores that will change their whims depending on the whim, depending on what they perceive society rewarding them for, i.e. whores.

However there are such things as gay men, they are men who have made a defining choice.

Goldenfetus added some conspiracy theory to the mix:

Honestly, I think the entire homosexual scene is about attention – for both men and women. I’m not denying that there are men who are attracted to men and women who are attracted to women, but I do believe the entire ‘gay culture’ was intentionally manufactured to further destroy the birthrate, with the reward for participation being attention and the approval of their elite masters.

Avoidwomen, for his part, not only accepted the existence of lesbianism; he also predicted a big lesbian upswing in the future after more and more men Go Their Own Way:

I expect to see a big increase in lesbianism as more and more men avoid women. We know that women are far more social than men and they really hate being alone, even having cats is considered companionship. As for sex, it’s possible one lesbian couple is a dyke with high T(for a woman) so she pressures the more feminine lesbian for sex and the dyke may actually be paying for sex.

Then he returned to his favorite hobbyhorses: sexbots and “virtual reality” girls:

It will be very interesting to see how much sex men have vs. how much sex women have with their virtual reality computer generated men and women in the year 2020. I bet most men get laid everyday while women try it a few times and not bother with sex anymore when she realizes there’s no money in it. Women will use VR men for his virtual money while men will be with virtual women for virtual sex.

The Great One imagined a slightly different result:

I think that instead of a rise in lesbianism we will see a rise in bisexuality among females.

When females can’t find a man, they will settle for another female (or several pets). ..  These female on female relationships will fall to the side when an available man offers a long term relationship.

Several pets? Hmm. If this guy is right, the future may bring severe cat shortages, sending the price of cats through the roof!

I’m putting all my money in cat futures right now.

Stay tuned for more on MGTOWers and lesbians. It gets even weirder.

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Posted on October 21, 2011, in $MONEY$, homophobia, idiocy, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, sexy robot ladies, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 559 Comments.

  1. Seriously? This is crazy!!!
    ..Though I did have a guy tell me recently that he didn’t ‘really believe all that lesbian stuff’. Really? You’ve never met a lesbian and therefore DON’T BELIEVE that an entire minority of people exist on the earth? Really?? If you’d never seen a black person on a bus would you not believe in them either, as they’re a minority??
    The craziest thing about this particular guy (for me) was that he worked in alternative medicine! How much more of a lesbian career path could you go down without actually being a lesbian??

    I was a lesbian for a very long time. Very happily a lesbian, I even had lesbian sex and fulfilling lesbian relationships! I’ve now married a man. A much younger man who Does believe lesbians exist, thankfully, or I would have never given him the time of day. If my gorgeous younger man ever called a woman a whore, I would be prepared to risk being ‘forced’ to buy a cat due to my lack of a man after I threw him out the door.
    If he wanted to See a whore (I hate the word whore btw) I would say OK, provided I can go out and sleep with lesbians. Obviously he hasn’t suggested it yet ;)

    Really you’ve got to pity these poor men. If they hate women that much and they haven’t discovered gay men yet, who are they getting their love and affection from? Not the whores I’m guessing.

  2. But at least now we know that most bisexuals would rather have sex with Kenny G than Linda Tripp. SCIENCE!

  3. @CassandraSays:

    Could I have Simon’s last statement again in English? Actually scratch that – could we maybe just create a misogynist to English handbook?

    Sorry, but why should I be a misogynist?

    I give you an example, maybe you’ll understand then:

    I and my anti-speciesistic friends are not afraid to call people who eat animals “murderers”, even if they don’t meet the common definition of a murderer: somebody who premeditatedly kills another human.

    And exactly like it may be totally common today to have 14 sex partners or more, we still use the word “whore” in that case.

  4. “…change their whims depending on the whim,”

    Um, the fuck? Whims are caused by…whims? What’s actually being said here?

  5. Because nastiness is not optional!

  6. I and my anti-speciesistic friends are not afraid to call people who eat animals “murderers”, even if they don’t meet the common definition of a murderer: somebody who premeditatedly kills another human.

    And exactly like it may be totally common today to have 14 sex partners or more, we still use the word “whore” in that case.

    Okay, then you’re an asshole.

    But don’t worry, I’m Humpty Fucking Dumpty and “asshole” means precisely what I want it to mean, nothing more or less. Any resemblance to vicious insults used by other people is purely coincidental.

  7. Sorry, but why should I be a misogynist?

    Good question. I can’t think of a single reason, dude. And yet you are one. Probably because you’re very stupid and easily led.

  8. @Rukee:

    In other words, you have no evidence, and don’t understand how to look at evidence, given your attempt to equate it with the general scientific consensus on rape. You’re even more stupid than I thought.

    The scientific consensus on rape isn’t that it’s about power, many doubt that, for example Steven Pinker.

    @Bee:

    But at least now we know that most bisexuals would rather have sex with Kenny G than Linda Tripp. SCIENCE!

    At least it’s somehow objective… still better than your personal stories NOBODY could ever verify.

  9. “At least it’s somehow objective… still better than your personal stories NOBODY could ever verify.”

    Pot, Kettle etc. etc..

  10. @Simon:

    “The scientific consensus on rape isn’t that it’s about power, many doubt that, for example Steven Pinker.”

    Many scientists doubt Evolution, doesn’t mean there isn’t a consensus that it happens. If you’re gonna use the word “many,” make sure you back it up with percentages or something… Also, Steven Pinker doesn’t exactly study rape… his work is in cognition and language. Not all scientists are equally credible on every subject. Just saying.

  11. I’m not sure why you chose to be a misogynist, Simon. Care to enlighten us? You’re really the only person who can answer that question.

  12. Good question. I can’t think of a single reason, dude. And yet you are one. Probably because you’re very stupid and easily led.

    Then all people who are less intelligent than me or are more easily led than I am… are misogynists?

    What about people with mental disabilities? There are some of them who wouldn’t understand the concept of HTML tags in ten years (you have the proof that I manage to use at least some of them) and there are some of them who would feel suicidal when the Sea Monkey eggs have hatched. All misogynists?

  13. Please, the last posts were more meant as feuilletonistic micro opinion pieces.

    Here’s the thing, Simon: you were making factual claims. “Red is my favourite colour!” Opinion. “Wrap dresses are the way to go!” Opinion. “Chickens totally fly!” Factual claim, which means you can’t hide behind “just my opinion nana nana” if you can’t back it up. Same goes for “bisexual women will cheat on you the moment you leave them alone in a room with a woman.”

    But let’s pretend you’ve actually given your audience here a reason to believe that bisexual women have higher sex drives. You know you can have lots of sex with a single partner, right? And you know that you can have multiple partners without lying to any of them about the others? Because, see, neither of those situations involves cheating.

  14. @Simon:

    Then all people who are less intelligent than me or are more easily led than I am… are misogynists?

  15. I’m amused by the hypocrisy here. Whore? I means whatever Simon thinks it means, so if he uses it to describe someone he’s just stating a fact. (The fact that he’s also butchering the English language is of course irrelevant.)

    But if someone calls Simon a misogynist, then they need to prove to him that he meets the correct definition. Because the only opinion that matters is Simon’s.

    (And again, we’re going to pretend that dictionaries don’t exist.)

  16. @CassandraSays:

    I’m not sure why you chose to be a misogynist, Simon. Care to enlighten us? You’re really the only person who can answer that question.

    Do I chose to be one? What have I ever said against women? I can’t remember!

    @kirbywarp:

    Many scientists doubt Evolution, doesn’t mean there isn’t a consensus that it happens. If you’re gonna use the word “many,” make sure you back it up with percentages or something… Also, Steven Pinker doesn’t exactly study rape… his work is in cognition and language. Not all scientists are equally credible on every subject. Just saying.

    In the Encyclopaedia Britannica article about rape it’s nowhere mentioned that the scientific consensus is as you said, you can only read: “The psychological motivations of rapists are more complex than was formerly thought. They may include the desire to punish, to gain revenge, to cause pain, to prove sexual prowess, and to control through fear.”

  17. You might want to see a doctor about that memory loss you’re experiencing, Simon. Could be a sign of a more serious condition.

  18. I am sorry… anti-speciest?
    People who eat meat are murderers?
    People who sleep with more than 1 person are whores?
    People who are bisexual are cheaters?

    Excuse me, do you even listen to yourself and read what you are typing?
    1. Murder: : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
    The fact that you want to change the definition and the meaning of a word, does not mean that it will happen. Killing animals is not a murder. You may think it’s wrong, I think you are incredibly idiotic human being who is so deep into one’s privileges that can’t think on the fact that most of the world can’t afford not to eat meat, because it affects their health badly.
    So do take that attitude and shove it somewhere, because you have no fucking right to judge anyone how they feed.

    2. Whore, unlike the word murder, is more of a social construct, created to name and shame people in order to make them obey society rules, which were created in order to control part of the population on the ground that that part was deemed a property. So you and you friends sound like quite the poisonous bunch. I can call you many things… but whom you fuck is of no interest to me. It concerns you, your partner/s and that’s it. You owe nobody what you do with your personal life and that holds true for the rest of the populace as well. I owe you NOTHING in regards to living my life, and you have no right to judge me, or anyone else who has sexy time. YOU can keep your sex life limited by some superficial thing about numbers and not relationships, but bear in mid that some of us a tad more complicated.

    3. There are no real tests and researches about cheating and sexuality (mono/bi), because we live in fluid society in which these things change. People cheat or people don’t It has nothing to do with their gender or orientation but more to do with their attitude, morality and type of characters they are. Combined with social norms and social gender. That’s it.
    You wouldn’t be able to find any proof about bisexuals cheating more, because the differences between two people from the same groups is grated than two groups like bisexuals and monosexuals.

    Get over yourself already or at least come up with arguments that have at least a strand of logic in them.

  19. At least it’s somehow objective… still better than your personal stories NOBODY could ever verify.

    I mean, I think there is a point at which enough people’s subjective beliefs form a consensus that we can call an objective reality, but I’m not sure that a survey of bisexual Savage Love readers rises to that limit, Simon, and proves that Kenny G is objectively fuckable.

    Also, what personal stories did I share with you, Simon?

    Then all people who are less intelligent than me or are more easily led than I am… are misogynists?

    What about people with mental disabilities? There are some of them who wouldn’t understand the concept of HTML tags in ten years (you have the proof that I manage to use at least some of them) and there are some of them who would feel suicidal when the Sea Monkey eggs have hatched. All misogynists?

    No. I said you’ve fallen into the MRM/misogyny trap in part because you’re stupid. That doesn’t mean I think all people who are stupid fall into the MRM/misogyny trap. Pay attention!

    Also: I would never call people with mental disabilities stupid. They have disabilities.

    Also: Really, Simon? You can understand the concept of html tags — that’s all you got? I totes has a sad now. BRB, crying myself to sleep.

  20. Do I chose to be one? What have I ever said against women? I can’t remember!

    Uh, called them “whores,” for a start.

    And are you borrowing NWO’s encyclopedias?

  21. @Simon:

    Encyclopaedia Britannica? I thought we were talking about science here…

  22. I would like to say, on the behalf of Reasonable Vegans and Animal Rights Supporters of the World, that Simon’s viewpoint does not represent the views of all animal rights supporters and vegans and that the vast majority of us feel it is rude to call people murderers and/or whores.

    Simon, honey, please. A convenience sample of Savage Love readers is as far from a simple random sample of bisexual women as my vagina is from MRAL’s cock.

    Also, at least to me, “stupid” implies a certain wilfullness. Anyone can be less than bright, and it’s not their fault, but willingly closing one’s mind to new information is certainly open to criticism.

  23. MRA… you see… that’s how it’s done when someone from a group you identify/like says something you disagree with.
    Ozy… nice one. :)

  24. @Viscaria:

    Here’s the thing, Simon: you were making factual claims. “Red is my favourite colour!” Opinion. “Wrap dresses are the way to go!” Opinion. “Chickens totally fly!” Factual claim, which means you can’t hide behind “just my opinion nana nana” if you can’t back it up. Same goes for “bisexual women will cheat on you the moment you leave them alone in a room with a woman.”

    I would never say something stupid like this. I don’t think that bisexual women are extremely more likely to cheat but… BUT, some things are just meant to stay innocent.

    Leaving your girlfriend and your sister alone in a room is on top of this list.

    If your gf is bisexual, how would you know if she has no sexual thoughts about her? This feels very disturbing.

    But let’s pretend you’ve actually given your audience here a reason to believe that bisexual women have higher sex drives. You know you can have lots of sex with a single partner, right?

    Of course you are right on this one. But I never said that bisexual can’t live monogamous or something like that. I just suspect that on average they cheat more often. More options + higher sex drive … why shouldn’t that have an effect?
    That’s not irrational, this are just the basic rules of inference.

    And I said “opinion” not because it’s like “green is my favourite color” but because this is not something that is proven beyond reasonable doubt, it’s just plausible and therefore I believe it.

    And you know that you can have multiple partners without lying to any of them about the others? Because, see, neither of those situations involves cheating.

    Doesn’t seem to be an option for many people…

  25. Even if we were going with the meat is murder analogy, wouldn’t the murderer technically be the person actually killing the animal? I’m not sure if Simon thinks that most omnivores slaughter their own meat, but if so he is incorrect.

  26. “The psychological motivations of rapists are more complex than was formerly thought. They may include the desire to punish, to gain revenge, to cause pain, to prove sexual prowess, and to control through fear.”

    Everything on that list is consistent with the notion that rape is about power.

    Also, internet surveys done by a notorious biphobe, and a “gay conversion therapy” study are horrible sources for a piece on bisexuality. Internet polls are pretty much the worse survey data source ever. Most social science studies on bisexuality are extremely limited at best. The percentages of men and women who have sexual activity with people of the same sex as well as the opposite sex are fairly similar, based on what studies exist on the matter, bi men are even more understudied than bi women. As small as these studies are and as poor as their methodology is in the cases you site, just looking around at the people we know is not much more likely to get innacurate results.

  27. Ozymandias, your vagina is the most disgusting place in the Milky Way, so I’ll take that as a compliment.

    Admit it, you’re just pulling zir pigtails because you like zir.

    Your hatecrushes would be almost cute if you weren’t so vile.

  28. Leaving your girlfriend and your sister alone in a room is on top of this list.

    If your gf is bisexual, how would you know if she has no sexual thoughts about her? This feels very disturbing.

    Ah ha! So Simon has finally come clean. Simon thinks that girls liking girls is squicky! Lemme throw you for a loop, Simon. Your GF and your brother in the same room. If your GF is straight, how do you know she has no sexual thoughts about him. This feels very disturbing.

    I just suspect that on average they cheat more often. More options + higher sex drive … why shouldn’t that have an effect?

    Because cheating isn’t just an inevitable result of having a higher sex drive… it is a moral question. Some people set up relationships so that having sex with more than one person isn’t cheating. Cheating involves setting up rules for your relationship, then breaking them. Having “more options” or a higher sex drive doesn’t matter for this question. You’d have better luck arguing that bisexuals are more often in polygamous relationships, but then who the hell cares?

  29. MRA, dude… we got it, you think Ozy has girls cooties. Move on already, we are bored.

    Simon… by your logic, how about your gf and your brother?
    Would you leave them in a room alone?
    Since you know… if you gf is heterosexual and your brother is heterosexual what are the chances he has the thoughts (or she does… or both?).

    You do make the difference between ‘attracted’ and ‘sleeping with’, right?
    Because the amount of attractive men and women around me in my line of work is overwhelming and somehow I manage not to sleep with them, though they are smart, intelligent, sexy and attracted to my gender.
    Could it be that people don’t sleep with everything that moves (not everyone) and could have relationships without cheating?

  30. Leaving your girlfriend and your sister alone in a room is on top of this list.

    If your gf is bisexual, how would you know if she has no sexual thoughts about her? This feels very disturbing.

    And how is this any different, or any more likely to result in cheating, then someone’s strait or bisexual boyfriend being in a room alone with their sister? What makes this situation special, exactly?

  31. Ha ha! Nina’d two people! I feel speshul now!

  32. As well you should.

  33. I is speshul… >.>

    Ninja’d of course…

  34. I can’t believe I just thought of this after months of reading MRAL’s posts, but I’ve had strange men spit on me on the street! I mean literally!

    The first time, I was eating a hot dog at an open-air takeout place and some college kid spat on me as he walked by. When my husband and I yelled at him, he swore at us and ran off. I have no idea why he did it. He dropped his cell phone when he ran, so we stomped up and down on it for a while.

    The second time was an accident. I was walking behind a homeless guy just as he hocked a loogie, and at that moment a gust of wind blew it straight into my mouth. The guy followed me down the rest of the street apologizing. I had to assure him repeatedly that it was okay. Although actually it was gross.

    Ah, San Francisco, how I love you!

  35. You know, the funny part is that MRAL is totally my type, except for the hateful raging misogyny and slut-shaming bit. Shy, geeky dude who likes George R. R. Martin? Yes plz.

    You have to wonder if he would be in at least a fuckbuddy relationship with a nice nerdgirl slut by now if it weren’t for his misogyny. Sad, really.

  36. @ozymandias42:

    Simon, honey, please. A convenience sample of Savage Love readers is as far from a simple random sample of bisexual women as my vagina is from MRAL’s cock.

    Yeah… when I read that, I was chuckling, too, but honestly you deserve nothing better. :-D As long as I have to accept your personal stories as facts, I can cite such stuff.

    @hellkell:

    Uh, called them “whores,” for a start.

    But why is this misogynist? I don’t call all women whores, just a certain subset. And it has absolutely nothing to do with their gender. We apply our standards fairly on both sexes.

    @kirbywarp:

    Encyclopaedia Britannica? I thought we were talking about science here…

    Encyclopaedia Britannica is good enough, if there were a scientific consensus on the motivations of rape you should find it there.

    But please, you can cite your own tertiary source!

  37. G.R. Martin? Eww… no.
    Kirbywarp – I get it now. :) I thought it’s some kind of a lingo or a phrase I didn’t know; ;) Thanks :)

  38. Never been spit on, I had a stranger try to lick my face on the subway once. Good times.

  39. MRAL is trying very hard indeed not to think about being in an oily, writhing love sandwich with ozy & Hugo, I can tell that much.

    Still, he seems to me to be the only one left with any entertainment value. This rash of blah-blah pseuds is getting jolly boring. Buck up, trollikins!

  40. But why is this misogynist? I don’t call all women whores, just a certain subset. And it has absolutely nothing to do with their gender. We apply our standards fairly on both sexes.

    It really doesn’t work that way at all. Suppose you’d called someone by a vicious racial epithet; when questioned you said, “well, not all of [minority group] are [epithet], and besides, it has nothing to do with their race.” That would be silly. It wouldn’t make the word less vicious or racist, and it wouldn’t protect those hurt by your comment.

    The language you use exists to demean and insult women. You used it to demean and insult a woman, and you don’t think this reflects more broadly on you because you don’t plan to do so more widely. That won’t follow.

    Listen, I’m with JSmooth. I don’t care whether you ARE a misogynist. Hate or not hate all you want. But what you SAID was misogynist, whether you meant it or not. If you’re a person of good faith, I urge you to stop using slurs like “slut” or “whore,”* both here and elsewhere. If you don’t understand what the problem with these words is, I’m sure we could tell you at greater length, if you’d like to know. But please don’t simply say “I didn’t mean it that way, so I won’t change;” that’s about an unwillingness to listen to others and learn from their understanding.

    *save in the very specific contexts of reclamatory projects and consensual use in sexual activity. But given your attitudes on the topic, I’d recommend spending some time going cold-turkey before feeling secure in your usage.

  41. Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant

    Don’t flatter yourself, I dislike Hugo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Ozymandias or any of you guys.

  42. Simon: Well, do you have relevant REAL research? Barring actual research with a remotely statistically significant sample, it seems to me simplest to default to “all orientations and genders are equally likely to cheat.”

    And while, strictly, calling people whores might not necessarily be sexist as long as you apply your standards equally to all sexes (although it takes place within a cultural context such that referring to women as “whores” hurts more than referring to men as such), it is definitely a sex-negative and assholish thing to do.

  43. Oy. Just caught up on the comments here.

    MRAL is now on permanent moderation for his comments in this thread; I’ve deleted most of them as well.

    Meanwhile, I approved a bunch of comments from nugganu, who is also on permanent moderation, but who is at least more entertaining in his obnoxiousness. Feel free to scroll up and read them. Or not.

  44. You can all go fuck yourselves. I’m out.

  45. @kirbywarp:

    Ah ha! So Simon has finally come clean. Simon thinks that girls liking girls is squicky! Lemme throw you for a loop, Simon. Your GF and your brother in the same room. If your GF is straight, how do you know she has no sexual thoughts about him. This feels very disturbing.

    Yes that could happen. But I would never think that leaving my gf and my brother in a room is something innocent, something where I can lay back and think “My two little…”.

    @Bee:

    No. I said you’ve fallen into the MRM/misogyny trap in part because you’re stupid. That doesn’t mean I think all people who are stupid fall into the MRM/misogyny trap. Pay attention!

    No you didn’t say that. You said that you assume that I’m a misogynist because you noticed that I am stupid and easily led.
    If that’s the only explanation you have to assume all stupid people are misogynists.

    Also: Really, Simon? You can understand the concept of html tags — that’s all you got? I totes has a sad now. BRB, crying myself to sleep.

    No, I’ve got much more, for example that I score 26/30 on the mensa workout… but I can’t proof it to you.

    @Men’s Rights Activist Lieutenant:

    You fucking DICK.

    But… why?

  46. Way to break character there Dad 2 Boys. Now you’ve ruined your sockpuppet too. I am disappoint.

  47. Nugganu: MRAL’s “position”? What position? “Lady parts are icky!” “Ozy’s totes got STIs, hur, hur!” Those are only positions in the sense that “You have cooties!” is a position.

  48. I’m kind of curious. What is is precisely about women having sex do you find so disgusting, Simon? I mean yea, there are STDs, but they’re essentially no different than any other disease you can catch while going about your life being a human being, and are for the most part actually easier to avoid. Condoms are really quite helpful for this as well.

  49. @Erl:

    Listen, I’m with JSmooth. I don’t care whether you ARE a misogynist. Hate or not hate all you want. But what you SAID was misogynist, whether you meant it or not. If you’re a person of good faith, I urge you to stop using slurs like “slut” or “whore,”* both here and elsewhere. If you don’t understand what the problem with these words is, I’m sure we could tell you at greater length, if you’d like to know. But please don’t simply say “I didn’t mean it that way, so I won’t change;” that’s about an unwillingness to listen to others and learn from their understanding.

    First of all, I didn’t say “Women who do xy are whores!”, I just explained that “whores” served as as an internal label. But, ok, I won’t use it anymore.

    @MissPrism:

    MRAL is trying very hard indeed not to think about being in an oily, writhing love sandwich with ozy & Hugo, I can tell that much.

    Still, he seems to me to be the only one left with any entertainment value. This rash of blah-blah pseuds is getting jolly boring. Buck up, trollikins!

    God, what a hypocrisy… that was the worst comment, I’ve read in a long time.

  50. Wow, Simon just did the “and I have a high IQ.”

    It’s an exciting night. I’m wearing a hat with furry bear ears. I know that’s not relevant to anything but I just got this hat and I’m really excited.

  51. You know, I was always curious how a movement that seemed to believe that sexuality was something men could turn off or choose to go gay just to show those women and make them stew in lusts long enough to come crawling back and demand to be treated like crap rationalized what in this world prevented women with their equally apparently malleable sexualities just deciding to do without the douchebags and comfort each other.

    Apparently, I now know.

    Because apparently Ellen DeGeneres, Dykes on Bikes, and lesbians everywhere don’t exist, never existed, and never will exist. They’ll have to come crawling back to these guys, because there is simply no means by which women can do anything else. Lesbianism is just a scare tactic to try and test their resolve.

    Honestly, speaking on behalf of all women, I strongly approved of the MGTOW movement. They should stay strong and vigilant and never once break their resolve to do without female companionship in any form. Weakening resolve is a sign of feminine poisoning from women trying to steal their precious bodily fluids, they will grow a mangina if they break too soon, which is any day before they achieve total victory.

    This will ensure that women don’t have to deal sexually or otherwise with idiots this against female personhood. I can’t imagine a greater gift the anti-feminist community could have for women everywhere.

  52. Simon, if you have that score in Mensa, that totally proves that the test is bogus.
    You are failing to make basic logic connections.
    Also, is it a thing in US MENSA tests to be done by people who don’t like/hate women as somehow justifying workaround? “Well… I can’t argue at all but… I have MENSA. It proves I am right, though I can’t use logic/arguments or even basic English to defend my ideas. But that’s not relevant, because intelligence is totally not subjective and me saying I am smart is exactly like being smart by showing it with actions/words/discussions with other people”?

  53. Holly, having never even seen it, I am envious of your hat.

  54. Nothing nugganu says is worth taking seriously enough to get upset about, but I have to say, I am a little upset that he seems to have taken his screen name from one of my favorite Pratchett books. Terry would not approve of your sexist bullshit, nugganu.

  55. No, I’ve got much more, for example that I score 26/30 on the mensa workout… but I can’t proof it to you.

    careful guys, he’s in mensa AND he owns a set of encyclopedia britannicas. i dont think weve met someone of his intellectual capacity before

  56. No, I’ve got much more, for example that I score 26/30 on the mensa workout… but I can’t proof it to you.

    If you’re going to go on about how smart you are, you should at least know how to use the word proof vs prove

  57. He may not be able to proof it to us, but surely he knows someone who could explain to him what the word “proof” actually means?

  58. Nugganu: John Stewart is not a socialist, he is a Green Lantern. Unless you meant Jon Stewart, who is still not a socialist, although at least he comments about politics. I, however, am a socialist! So yay for that at least.

    So, uh, bisexual women are all sluts and sluts all cheat? Okay then. I’m a slut and I’ve never cheated and I can meaningfully pairbond all over the place. In fact, I have occasionally pairbonded meaningfully with multiple people at once! That is, like, super-pairbonding power.

    Bisexuals are actually about 1.7% of the population

    I do have penis envy, though, although these days we call that “transmasculine spectrum.” 

    Dude. I have friends that are Muslims. I am pretty sure my friend Nahida is not trying to take over the United States. I think she would have told me. And, no, like the vast majority of Muslim people, she’s monogamous. Most people in non-coercive poly relationships are, judging from my very nonscientific sample, pagan, atheists or Christians.

    Simon: Actual smart people don’t go about bragging about how smart they are.

  59. @Simon:

    “Yes that could happen. But I would never think that leaving my gf and my brother in a room is something innocent, something where I can lay back and think “My two little…”

    girls? What sort of argument is this? “Ew, squick” is not a valid argument. Come to think about it… what exactly are you arguing? I have to say I’m completely flummoxed.

    “No, I’ve got much more, for example that I score 26/30 on the mensa workout… but I can’t proof it to you.”

    No, you’re right. You can’t proof it to us at all.

  60. Your hat sounds v cute, Holly! I bought a hat recently but haven’t had a chance to wear it yet because I generally wear my bike helmet. It’s a green 1920s confection, I think it’s called a cloche style. With a bow.

  61. heh…

    “This quiz is provided for entertainment purposes only; it is not an IQ test. This score will not qualify you for Mensa. The questions on the “Mensa Workout” are biased towards people whose primary language is English. Mensa offers culture-fair testing throughout the world. Many of the questions on the “Mensa Workout” require you to have a graphical browser. The test is still enjoyable for those with text-only browsers, but your overall score may be considerably lower than it might be with a graphical browser.”

  62. I’m a little disturbed about what Simon’s comments imply about his relationship with his sister. Beware, sister of Simon! Your brother apparently thinks that you will sleep with anyone who asks.

  63. @Eneya:
    Simon, if you have that score in Mensa, that totally proves that the test is bogus.
    You are failing to make basic logic connections.

    No there’s a difference between not being able to use logic or refusing to use it.

    “Facts are chains that bind perception and fetter truth. For a man can remake the world if he has a dream and no facts to cloud his mind.”

    Also, is it a thing in US MENSA tests to be done by people who don’t like/hate women as somehow justifying workaround? “Well… I can’t argue at all but… I have MENSA. It proves I am right, though I can’t use logic/arguments or even basic English to defend my ideas. But that’s not relevant, because intelligence is totally not subjective and me saying I am smart is exactly like being smart by showing it with actions/words/discussions with other people”?

    Yes, my English is a big problem, I admit that, I’m still learning.

    Logic-wise I’m on the dark side, I admit that… but where do you stand…?

    Just look at the extremely faulty logic most of you use…

    I would have never mentioned my Mensa score if it were not for Bees nonsensical accusations.

    Bee said I were stupid and therefore she assumes that I am a misogynist (great logic!).

    I said, that as she can see by looking at my posts, that I am at least able to use html-tags, so I’m not mentally disabled, there exist many people who are stupider than myself… for her they all must be misogynist.
    It got even worse, Bee denied what she said and the wrote something like “haha, html tags, is that all you got?” and that’s really the only reason I cited my Mensa score, it was not meant to impress anybody.

    @Sharculese:
    careful guys, he’s in mensa AND he owns a set of encyclopedia britannicas. i dont think weve met someone of his intellectual capacity before

    And…?

  64. @ozymandias42:
    Simon: Actual smart people don’t go about bragging about how smart they are.

    Yes. But where did I do that? Quote me, please (and don’t forget to look at the context)!

  65. Uh… rationality is good. I like rationality. It gives one such useful things as medicine and not burning people at the stake for being witches.

  66. For what it’s worth, I got a 27/30. I missed the two word scrambles, and miscounted on one of the questions…

    Hooray! I’m smarter than Simon!

  67. @Simon:

    “Bee said I were stupid and therefore she assumes that I am a misogynist (great logic!).”

    I refer you to my last point on this subject, namely the youtube video. Nobody thinks she said this except for you. Dumbass.

  68. ozymandias, can I try to compensate this slut-shaming with some slut-jealousy? As a woman with a low sex drive, I wish I could have have half your sex life. (even if that means no man will want to give me his babies or his money ^^)

  69. @Shora:

    If you’re going to go on about how smart you are, you should at least know how to use the word proof vs prove

    As you probably noticed, English is not my native language, errors like accidentally confusing brake/break, proof/prove etc. happen sometimes (@kirbywarp, I didn’t take the English test), and I didn’t want to prove to anybody that I am smart, please read the original post.

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