A PUA, living the dream. And by “living the dream” I mean “being a dick.”
Cheating is jerky. But this picture is still hilarious.
Here’s the bravely anonymous alpha blogger behind “Danger & Play ~ An online magazine for alpha males” explaining “Why You Should Cheat on Your Girlfriend.” I’ve bolded my favorite bit:
Haters will tell you to, “Man up! Break up with your girlfriend if you’re not happy.” They are missing the point. You want to have your cake, and to eat it too. Steady, reliable pussy and the occasional strange is the best of all worlds.
Cheating is a lot of fun, and it’s something I highly recommend. It’s way more exhilarating than bungee jumping, and few things feel as good as banging your girlfriend on the same day you banged some strange.
Cheating keeps your game tight. The best way to regulate your girlfriend is knowing you can bang chicks as hot or hotter than your girl. Well, when you cheat, this isn’t hypothetical. It’s reality.
Somehow I’m guessing there’s a lot more “hypothetical” than “reality” going on in this guy’s posts.
You don’t want an exclusive relationship? Fine. There’s no law saying you have to be in one. You can date casually and non-exclusively. You can have an open or polyamorous relationship. There are a lot of people out there in relationships, yet happily fucking other people outside of them. They’re just above board with it.
But that’s not what’s going on with our PUA friend here. With his talk about “regulat[ing]” girlfriends, he seems more interested in fucking over his girlfriend (assuming such a creature really exists) than he is in fucking strangers (sorry, “stranges”).
That’s not “Game.” That’s just being a dick.
But, hey, Nietzsche! He’s BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL! Or, as he puts it in a comment, “Shame and guilt are beta.”
You know, if you have to go around telling everyone what an Nietzschean ubermensch you are, you’re probably aren’t much of a Nietzschean ubermensch.
Posted on October 17, 2011, in alpha males, beta males, douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 961 Comments.
@ozymandias42:
That’s why I don’t even like the word “slut” anymore, referring to anyone… people can twist it to mean whatever they want it to mean.
Otherwise, I’m with you that NWOslave is way off base with his comparison of PUAs and people who are simply promiscuous. The complaint isn’t the number of sexual partners, or the level of commitment. The complaint lies in the level of honesty, and the level of respect given to your partners. No one is saying that a man or woman can’t have casual sex. No one is saying that a man or woman can’t have multiple partners, or that the sexual relationships can’t overlap. No one is saying that a man or a woman must commit to a monogamous relationship, and remain celibate outside of that relationship.
What we’re all saying is that people have a right to only enter into consensual relationships, and you cannot give proper consent if you don’t know the whole truth about what you are agreeing to. That’s why it is cheating to sleep with someone outside of a monogamous relationship, and not cheating if you are in a casual and/or open relationship… and why it is cheating again if your open relationship has rules about who you can sleep with that you break.
The whole point of PUAs and “game” is about being dishonest with your partners, which means that it is pretty much always unethical and pretty much always violates the other person’s right to give or withhold consent.
@Quakers: I don’t really know why a woman would falsely accuse someone, nor do I care. I am only interested in covering my own ass (figuratively not literally in this case). Statistics are all over the place in regards to FRA. They go from a measly 2% to a staggering 45-50%.
I love how I am the bad guy for defending myself and not be placed in jail because I could be falsely accused…but none of you have said one word about the woman who would have falsely accused me (in this hypothetical example).
“Also, how am I violating them?”
I don’t think you’re being genuine, but for those watching at home:
Imagine, midway through sex with your date, you discover she’s been secretly videotaping you two having sex. Just for shits and giggles, let’s assume you’re at her house. Maybe her house is in a part of town you’re not super familiar with, maybe it’s late at night, maybe you’re drunk and don’t have an easy way home. You’ve hung out with her a few times, but you don’t know her super well. Maybe she’s even physically bigger and stronger than you.
And you’ve just found out she’s got video of you having sex. How do you feel?
If it were me, it would be something like “Holy shit, what the fuck?! Oh my god, she has video of me having sex, that’s so humiliating. What if she puts it on the internet? What if she sends it to her friends? What if my family/friends/employer/coworkers/partners see it? What if her computer gets hacked and it ends up on a porn site? Oh God, if she’d do that, what else would she do? Attack me? If she rapes me now, no one will ever believe me. What will she do if I get angry? What if she tries to blackmail me with this? If I get the police involved, that video will be shown at trial and everyone will know. Holy shit what the fuck?!”
Even if your motives are 100% pure and you would never do anything with that video unless she falsely accused you of rape, you’d still be putting her through that trauma if she found out, and whether she found out or not, she’d be at risk of every one of the things I listed, and lots more I didn’t think of. If you would put another person through that just in case they were going to do something horrible to you, you are a gaping, shit-covered asshole.
Or you know, guys who don’t have a problem flirting and approaching might not be using “game” but might just be -I don’t know- being themselves. Not every guy who doesn’t have a problem talking to strange women has studied a bunch of techniques or absorbed a bunch of foolishness about “negs” and escalating touch.
There are plenty of men who want to find out if a particular woman they’re attracted to is also interesting/smart/funny/likes gouda. There are men who figure out, purely through their powers of observation, that clean clothes, good hygiene and a decent haircut make dating easier.
If I were you, Quackers, I wouldn’t worry about it. That said, it’s true that if you decide to take the initiative in a man that you’re interested in you may be less worried about his motives.
Brandon: What’s your definition of rape?
Because until people know that, they can’t know what you mean by “false rape accusation” (anymore than they can know what you mean by, “impersonate”).
It is illegal in MA to record someone visually.
It is also something that allows for the person to sue you for millions. So Brandon, I hope Ashley has read this and knows enough to check your computer for any videos you made without her permission.
@Brandon:
“I love how I am the bad guy for defending myself and not be placed in jail because I could be falsely accused…but none of you have said one word about the woman who would have falsely accused me (in this hypothetical example).”
We don’t say anything about the woman because she doesn’t exist. You could make her (hypothetically) the biggest bitch in the world, hell bent on destroying men and you in particular at no cost, and we still wouldn’t comment on her actions.
She is a fiction. The false accusation does not exist. You and your video taping do.
@Matthew Cline: Yeah, I get his point, I just think he’s a horrible person.
@ozymandias42
“NWO: We disapprove of coercing people into sex and of dishonesty, because those are unethical. We do not disapprove of safe, emotionally healthy, enthusiastically consensual, honest sex, whatever form it may take, because that IS ethical”
Ozy! I can always count on your hypocracy to light the way. Tell me. What’s the difference between a slut dressed all sexy at a bar and nuzzling up to a guy whose been drinking and getting him into the sack. And a man sweet talking a girl at a bar whose been drinking to get her into the sack.
The answer of course is, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Emotionally healthy, enthusiastically consensual, honest sex. What a load of crap. Put on a pair of big girl pants and grow up.
Coercion. What a joke. What, do you need training wheels with your freedom?
Enthusiastic consent, puuuulease. There’s a loaded gun pointed at every mans head.
You don’t get any of that. Grow up. If you fuck up, it’s your fault. Oh, did a bad man talk you into the sack. Poor baby.
You wanted sexual agency, you got it. There’s no buyers remorse, There’s no you weren’t enthusiastic enough. There’s no I was drunk at the time. There’s no he promised me a rose garden. There’s no do overs. You made your feminist bed, lie in it.
I never understand how conversations about consent veer off into territory where one guy is assuming it’s basically impossible for a woman to give consent under any circumstances…
You know what the kicker is against the PUAs is? There’s a whole big giant world of women online who are willing to have casual sex with any halfway decent guy within 500 miles of them…
… and before any MRA/PUA/POS decides to comment, they come in all shapes and sizes, and from 18 years old to 80. And they aren’t generally giant snobs about looks, so if you’re close to them in hotness you have a pretty good shot.
If any of these sexually-stunted guys were really just interested in sex, there is a whole happy world of casual sex out there. The fact that they feel the need to find women that they have to lie to, that they have to hurt in some way to salve their poor bruised egos, tells you a whole lot about them.
Brandon: Hypothetical FRA Lady is a douchebag who’s fucking it up for other rape survivors and for you. You, on the other hand, are very non-hypothetically doing a very douchey thing.
Hey, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t illegally obtained evidence inadmissible in court?
Brandon, how is it that tons of other men can have sex (including casual sex) yet don’t get falsely accused? if you are that worried, make sure you both establish clear consent and be respectful. And I really don’t buy this FRA hysteria that all it takes is one person’s word to get the other person thrown in jail, an investigation would have to happen.
Also I don’t know who it was that mentioned shy guys, but personally I don’t ask guys out because I myself am very shy. Its not because I expect men to do the asking. I realize I miss out but oh well. I’ve also always paid my half on a date, unless the guy was super insistent on paying for me. Even then I feel uncomfortable with it.
@Null:
“Imagine, midway through sex with your date, you discover she’s been secretly videotaping you two having sex. Just for shits and giggles,”
The point being is the videotaping isn’t just for “shits and giggles”. It actually serves the purpose of a legal defense in case I was falsely accused.
If you are really that worried about it “falling into the wrong hands” I can put them on encrypted flashdrives and store them in my safe. Then I can dip the entire case into epoxy so that no one can even break into the case and access the chips directly.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with either. That is unless they’re targeting potential partners based on said partners’ level of inebriation, in which case they’re both rapey scumbags.
NWO doesn’t believe in enthusiastic consent because he believes all women are whores. He literally has nothing of value or interest to add in these kinds of discussions.
Brandon, I have a question. In your hypothetical about videotaping to verify the consent of a sexual encounter to counter a potential claim of rape, is it the entirety of the sex act that is recorded, or just the beginning?
@ Brandon,
Do you consider what’s being talked about in this video to be rape?
/facepalm
The shits and giggles part was the beginning of the next sentence, Brandon. It was intended to introduce one possible scenario in which the videotaping could happen. It’s important to read all the way to the end of the sentence before you reply :D
Brandon’s reasoning reminds me more and more like a small child or a puppy. If I don’t get caught, it isn’t wrong! He is either epically trolling us (in which case, I am in awe of your aptitude for commitment), or a seriously disturbed individual.
How else can you explain the complete lack of understanding of “Breaking the law and violating someone’s trust and consent is not excused by the vague possibility of that someone’s breaking of the law.”
Brandon, you seem to be ignoring me, but whatevs. One last question. Do you think you could successfully convince someone you have video taped illegally, were they to find out somehow, that you were justified in doing so?
1) Yes, I totally believe you will do that, Oh Super Ethical Brandon.
2) Comparatively, I’d be less worried about them “falling into the wrong hands” and more worried about you getting pissed off at me and using them as leverage, if it were me.
Damn, if it’s this bad, why haven’t *I* been falsely accused of rape yet? I have sex with women! And I’ve pegged men, which you’d think would put them in a vulnerable position. Does my pussy protect me?
Blockquote fail, can you fix David?
@Elizabeth: It is doubtful that Ashley would find anything. I work in IT, so I know how to secure my files. She has her own laptop so I don’t let her use my computer (since I depend on it for side work and can’t afford to have it go down…and she downloads a lot of crappy applications).
@Dracula: I will take my chances.
@Quakers: Yes, and that investigation costs money and requires me to invest my time and energy into something that is full of shit. By falsely accusing me, she is wasting my time. So I don’t really give a shit about her.
I do establish consent before hand. If she says no or pushes back in anyway, I get up and do something else (get a drink, start making a snack, sit on the couch and watch a movie)
@Improbable Joe
“The whole point of PUAs and “game” is about being dishonest with your partners”
I thought the point of PUAs was to fuck as many women as possible. So if a PUA sweet talks a girl into bed, even if she’s drunk, so what? Was she forced into getting drunk? Free will.
What? She wasn’t fully cognizant at the time?
If a drunk women purposely smashes a store window, does she get to sue the store owner?
If she purposely robs someone drunk, can she jail them?
If she purposely assaults someone while drunk can she take them to court for violating her rights.
How about if someone suggested doing any of these things? Could she sue, jail or take any of those people to court? I don’t think so. Well, the same goes for sex. Grow up.
Everyone here tells me women are strong, independent, empowered with sexual agency. Well, which is it? Are you only strong and independent when it suits you? Do you need to be coddled when that need suits you? You’re either equal or you’re not, make up your collective mind.
“It is doubtful that Ashley would find anything. I work in IT, so I know how to secure my files.”
Wow, this just got a whole lot creepier. I thought we were talking about entirely hypothetical secret sex videos, until you said that. That poor woman; I hope she gets away from you and out of the relationship.
@Nobinayamu
“NWO doesn’t believe in enthusiastic consent because he believes all women are whores. He literally has nothing of value or interest to add in these kinds of discussions.”
You praise the slutwalkers, not me.
You’re against slut-shaming, not me.
You praise the Ozy, Holly, Molly and all the rest of the slutdom blogs, not me.
You promote all women being whores, not me.
Continuing text messaging girls and keeping her responses acts as further proof that it was consentual. If I texted her “I really enjoyed last night” and she said “ya me too”. Then that is further proof of what the film already said.”
No it isn’t. Lots of rape victims sometimes try to pretend nothing happened b/c they are either ashamed or feel guilty, as if they did something wrong, and are in shock and follow the societal narrative that you should say everything is okay. I did that. :\ And I did that when my rapist texted me that he enjoyed last night… I had no idea what to do. In fact it made me even more worried that it was all just me, since he didn’t act like he did nething wrong… maybe he just didn’t know and I lead him on….and… I dunno… I worried what would happen if I ignored him, I was scared that I was being a horrible person or he’d be so angry if I did.. he knows where I live, we’re in the same social circle.. so I pretended things were fine b/c I didn’t know what to do and I wasn’t able to sleep nemore, and I was … traumatized…
The woman in the first Ben Roethlisberger complaint who is suing him in civil court, also texted her friend that weekend saying she had a good weekend. And during that time, my friend said that that proved she wasn’t raped. I said that I don’t know what happened, but that doesn’t prove anything. I showed him a LJ post I wrote the day after what happened to me, saying that I had a good time also, b/c all of my friends knew I was going to his house, and that they had been encouraging me b/c they wanted me to be happy, and I was excited… and after it happened, I was so numb and confused, and all I could think of is how horrible I’d be to let everybody down and say that something bad happened…. and after all, I had written down and even IMed them from his house saying how great things were going (this was right before it happened obv)… who would believe me? Maybe it’s just all in my imagination… maybe it’s all my fault…. maybe I asked for it…
@PFKAE: So, if Brandon were hypothetically accused of rape, and he tried used evidence he obtained illegally, with no probable cause, evidence that could be used to convict him of a separate crime, would it be admissible in court in that particular case, do you think?
@Null: And there is the kicker…you wouldn’t want me to have leverage over her. And by leverage…I mean “Can actually prove she is full of shit when she said ‘He raped me!'”.
@Elizabeth: For one, if the cops are looking for weed, they can’t take anything that isn’t weed or looks like weed. A flash drive doesn’t look like weed.
Also, all my data is automatically encrypted via TrueCrypt
I doubt you are as awesome as you say you are Brandon, very few IT people are that good. I also think she would have the sense to take it to someone else to look at it…like say the local police department.
We’re talking about being drunk to the point of incapacitation. Drunk to the point where she can’t stand up straight. Drunk to the point that she doesn’t know where she is or what’s going on.
Do you really think it’s alright to have sex with someone in that state?
“You praise the Ozy, Holly, Molly and all the rest of the slutdom blogs, not me.”
You know why, NWOslave? It’s cuz we never have to secretly videotape our partners or want to have sex with underage children!
You praise the slutwalkers, not me.
You’re against slut-shaming, not me.
You praise the Ozy, Holly, Molly and all the rest of the slutdom blogs, not me.
You promote all women being whores, not me.
What do you believe you should be praised for? o:
I haven’t had sex. Ppl praise me for being AWESOME still. :D Somehow I don’t think that has nething to do w/ why ppl don’t praise you XD
“…tried [to use]…”
Brandon, do you think it’s possible for someone to consent to sex?
No, I don’t want you to have leverage over her. And by leverage, I mean “You better (suck my dick/shut your mouth/stay with me), bitch, or I’ll send my secret sex videos to your mother.”
Allow me to laugh at you. HAHAHAHAHA
Good luck with that. HAHAHAHAHAHA
@Improbable Joe,
Actually, not that easy, because the key is “if you are close to them in hotness.” I have pretty severe kyphosis, such that pictures work against me unless I am there in person in the flesh to display humor, personality, and masculinity via PUA. In contrast, I am told I have a somewhat handsome face, I’d say about 1 in 50 women I approach in an ostensibly social event is attracted enough to continue the conversation. I don’t think most people who criticize PUA understand the amount of work involved when one does all the approaching, and how clearly mainstream society labels this as male work. Of course, a lot of what I do isn’t recognizable as PUA because it isn’t this blog’s parody of ca. 2004 Mystery Method, all negs and challenges and put-downs. This is pretty much “No True Scotsman”, but some of us aren’t Bonnie Prince Charlie at all.
Darn it, WordPress ate up my comment!
Anyway …
It doesn’t matter what purpose it serves. You really should take a look at the MA statute. The purpose of the recording isn’t one of the elements of the crime. If you record a sex act without the other person’s consent, you’ve committed a crime. Period. Your fear of a false rape accusation isn’t a defense.
That’s all well and good, but the first recording that you produce in defense to a rape accusation (all smug, no doubt) will precipitate the law enforcement seizing all of them. So it’s not like you’ll have to serve 2.5 years for each false rape accusation. You will be charged with multiple crimes and serve multiple sentences, probably consecutively. And since, like all Internet poseurs, you are of course a “stud”, naturally your recordings would end up to one long, long, long prison sentence.
And then when you come out, you’ll have to register as a sex offender.
Brandon, for all your posturing, taking a calculating approach to life makes you just like everyone else. All people weigh risks and benefits, some just aren’t very good at it. For instance, your calculus sucks. Your way of avoiding the remote risk of being falsely accused of a sex crime consists of committing a sex crime — repeatedly — and saving the evidence with which to convict you. With every such crime that you commit, you drastically increase the cost of protecting yourself from even one false rape accusation. It’s kind of like blowing up your house to thwart a potential burglary. You probably vaguely believe that being convicted of videotaping sex without consent is less disgraceful than being convicted of rape, but as far as most women are concerned, it’s a distinction without a difference. Although punished lighter than rape, non-consensual videotaping is a form of sexual assault, and in the eyes of most women who know this about you, you are basically a rapist. As for people scanning sex offender registries to determine their level of risk as landlords and employers — they too aren’t going to be interested in the sordid details of your conviction and how it’s “better” than rape. You are a sex offender, end of story.
And on top of all that, you make the hilarious claim that federal and state laws do not apply in your home. Newsflash: your home is subject to all applicable laws. You can no more commit a crime in your kitchen than you can out on the street. Man, clearly, answering phones and running small errands in your daddy’s office for several summers in a row hasn’t turned you into a legal eagle. I suggest you pick some other vocation, because law — you suck at it. Seriously.
OK, Brandon, let’s say that our hypothetical woman is videotaping you because she’s worried that you might rape her, and she wants to have evidence if you do. Are you OK with that?
(I’m not, for the same reasons I’m not OK with you taping her, but I’m going to hazard a guess that you’ll be less logically consistent.)
@Ami: So women are programmed by society to continue to talk to their rapist? Okkaaaay!
@Null: I actually don’t even own a video camera (besides the crappy web cam that came with my laptop)
Now using the video for those purposes would be a dick move. Also, I see no reason to control women. If they don’t want to hang out or have sex…it’s called “other women”
@Elizabeth: It doesn’t take much to feed video from a camera into a computer. Any Level 1 Tech can figure it out.
@Molly: Yes.
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“@Molly: Yes.”
Then why have you thought out this videotaping thing in such detail? It’s to guard against what you think is a very real threat. If you thought honest consent was possible, why protect yourself from every partner you sleep with?
@Eurosabra
HEY! :D I know you! You’re one of the “old ones”… like Cold.. or Random Brother… the ppl I have not met yet b/c I was only added in season 5. XD
Hi! :D *holds out paw* Ami Angelwings, Rodeo Cat… how are you? :3
@Ami: So women are programmed by society to continue to talk to their rapist? Okkaaaay!
I’m confused what you mean by this? o_O
I merely said that continuing to talk is not proof rape didn’t happen xD
Where did you get programmed from? o_O
@kirbywarp
” No, the male version of a woman who is a slut would be someone who is comfortable with their sexuality and seeks out others like himself, having lots of sex in the process”
Oh it’s sounds so altruistic when you put like that. But a slut is exactly that, a slut. She dresses and acts sexy and says all kindsa pretty lies for not only sex, but freebie’s as well.
One of your own, Joanna actually fessed up. she must be drunk and slipped up so she isn’t to blame.
Joanna | October 17, 2011 at 12:22 pm
“I ashamedly admit that I used to use guys in bars to buy me drinks…and then not go home with them. >.>”
Maybe those arrows are a sad face or something. But the mockery doesn’t end there. Oh no it doesn’t.
Joanna | October 17, 2011 at 12:23 pm
“*le gasp* How misandrist of me! =O”
Ya see, it’s just a joke. She used her sexuality for profit, and it’s funny. Wierd how when ya go to a bar that’s all you see. Or were women drunk and not fully cognizant of the fact they were teasing for profit?
What a bunch of hypocrites.
Actually, Brandon, using the sex tape to blackmail a woman wouldn’t be just a “dick move” — it would be a crime in and of itself. Plus, your statements to her would furnish the police with probable cause to look for that video — and find all of them.
@Amused:
1)I wouldn’t give them the password.
NWO, stop pretending the feminist or any-right-thinking-individual definition of “drunk sex = rape” is all about some tipsy beauty who just broke up with her boyfriend whispering “Take me home, Jeremy… Er.. Brian” into the ear of someone she met an hour ago (while she nibbles said ear,) then going home and doing a bravura Betty the Backwards Cowgirl performance on him. We all know that happens. Nobody thinks it’s rape.
People have sex they regret while intoxicated and still able to give consent. When this happens, and they REGRET it, they go home, have an omelet and drink a coke and call their best friend and go WHAT THE HELL DID I DO LAST NIGHT.
“drunk sex” and “regrets” Exist. And they exist in a whole different UNIVERSE from rape.
And feminists know this. We ALL know this. And, frankly? Guys who talk about “WHAT IF SHE WAS DRUNK! DRUNK SEX IS RAPE NOW? WHY CAN’T YOU WOMEN GROW UP! ARE YOU EQUAL OR NOT! ETC,” and utterly refuse to stop blurring the line whenever they talk to a feminist about rape and drunkenness is just f’n willful stubbornness as far as I can tell.
Hey NWO vanished again xD
“1)I wouldn’t give them the password.”
Because not being a creepy idiot is never, ever an option.
I would say something but I am too busy still laughing at the idea that the officers would not pick up anything beyond weed.
NWOslave | October 17, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Brandon: They wouldn’t need your stupid password.
@Ami: No but texting things like “I really enjoyed myself last night, you?” or “We should do that again.” and see how she responds is one way to gauge how she took last night.
Maybe those arrows are a sad face or something. But the mockery doesn’t end there. Oh no it doesn’t.
It is sideways eyes NWO :D
Luckily for you I’m here! :D
>______________________>
SEE… SIDEWAYZ :D
>_________________________________>
Neways… in what ways are we hypocrites? :3
Brandon | October 17, 2011 at 11:15 pm
@Ami: No but texting things like “I really enjoyed myself last night, you?” or “We should do that again.” and see how she responds is one way to gauge how she took last night.
Is it? After all you alrdy think women are liars… what makes you think you can trust that? o:
And that’s even ignoring the other stuff I’ve alrdy brought up :3
LOL! Brandon works in tech and thinks that he can protect himself from a criminal investigation by going “nuh uh, I’m not gonna give you my password”.
You really think law enforcement wouldn’t be able to access your encrypted files? You’re adorable, Brandon.
@Amused: And how do they plan on getting the data from the flash drives?
Jesus tapdancing Christ on a pumpkin … this is hilarious. So, everyone who was ever convicted of, say, storing child pornography only went to jail because he gave the police his password? Buah-ha-ha-ha-ha!! Oh yeah. And if you don’t want your house searched, just don’t open the door.
LOL you think they need your password to get files!!!
@Ami Angelwings
“Ppl praise me for being AWESOME still.”
Lol, no one praises you sir, save the manboobz gang. For all your typing you never actually say anything. You just ask questions. Not to burst your self-important bubble, but most people ridicule you.
Block quote fail.
NWO, most people ridicule you, not Ami.
Brandon, since you obviously know much more about this than we do, tell us why they’d never be able to access your flash drives.
Brandon: the police, the FBI and intelligence agencies get their hands on encrypted data all the time. ALL THE TIME. Now, if you imagine yourself to be the Greatest Computer Guy In the World who can devise a way to make the data absolutely inaccessible — go right ahead. But if your IT work is anything like your lawyering, I’d say you should be worried.
@Ami
Not getting your allusions, unless you mean Dawson’s Creek Season 5, with the character Random Brother? I was peripherally involved a bit in Mystery’s Project Hollywood in 2003-to its implosion in ’05, if you mean PUA subculture. I appreciate whatever snark you are trying to throw at me because it’s probably hilarious, but I’m not getting it.
So, NWOslave, I’ll take it that, since you skipped over my question, you actually don’t see a moral difference between having sex with someone who’s had one or two drinks and someone who’s had so much to drink s/he’s barely conscious.