A PUA, living the dream. And by “living the dream” I mean “being a dick.”
Cheating is jerky. But this picture is still hilarious.
Here’s the bravely anonymous alpha blogger behind “Danger & Play ~ An online magazine for alpha males” explaining “Why You Should Cheat on Your Girlfriend.” I’ve bolded my favorite bit:
Haters will tell you to, “Man up! Break up with your girlfriend if you’re not happy.” They are missing the point. You want to have your cake, and to eat it too. Steady, reliable pussy and the occasional strange is the best of all worlds.
Cheating is a lot of fun, and it’s something I highly recommend. It’s way more exhilarating than bungee jumping, and few things feel as good as banging your girlfriend on the same day you banged some strange.
Cheating keeps your game tight. The best way to regulate your girlfriend is knowing you can bang chicks as hot or hotter than your girl. Well, when you cheat, this isn’t hypothetical. It’s reality.
Somehow I’m guessing there’s a lot more “hypothetical” than “reality” going on in this guy’s posts.
You don’t want an exclusive relationship? Fine. There’s no law saying you have to be in one. You can date casually and non-exclusively. You can have an open or polyamorous relationship. There are a lot of people out there in relationships, yet happily fucking other people outside of them. They’re just above board with it.
But that’s not what’s going on with our PUA friend here. With his talk about “regulat[ing]” girlfriends, he seems more interested in fucking over his girlfriend (assuming such a creature really exists) than he is in fucking strangers (sorry, “stranges”).
That’s not “Game.” That’s just being a dick.
But, hey, Nietzsche! He’s BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL! Or, as he puts it in a comment, “Shame and guilt are beta.”
You know, if you have to go around telling everyone what an Nietzschean ubermensch you are, you’re probably aren’t much of a Nietzschean ubermensch.
Posted on October 17, 2011, in alpha males, beta males, douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 961 Comments.
@Sharculese: Ya, and Republicans are annoying to Democrats. What’s your point? That anyone with an opposing viewpoint is spoiled?
That should read:
“Yeah, Brandon I wasn’t asking for you to…”
If I were a prosecuting attorney, Brandon, I’d raise three points in court:
-This is a man who’s demonstrated he doesn’t have much regard for the law nor for the consent and autonomy of his partners.
-We don’t actually know what this recording is of. It could be of a different incident than the rape, or it could be a completely different woman, or he could have made her make it with a knife to her throat.
-He clearly expected to be facing rape charges and prepared for this trial, and that’s kinda sketchy right there.
Ethics aside, revealing your secret tapes when accused of rape would make you look worse than if you just argued “she’s lying and there is no physical evidence” (and there wouldn’t be, on account of how you didn’t actually rape her, right?) and you’d very likely be acquitted.
If you understand the difference, Brandon, then this is the first time you’ve indicated as such. And to repeat Nobinayamu’s question, if all you need is to tape a woman giving consent, why do you think it’s such a smart idea to tape a sex act without your partner knowing, especially since the former is perfectly legal and the latter totally isn’t?
Ya, and Republicans are annoying to Democrats. What’s your point? That anyone with an opposing viewpoint is spoiled?
nah, dude, it was that acting like you’re proud of being annoying is childish. that thing i um… said… in the post you… responded to…
@Nobinayamu: I care about her consenting to sex, not me recording it (audio or video).
@Holly: That is why video tapes have timestamps on them and I think you can add a timestamp to audio recordings to if the device supports it.
I think the audio would be able to show if she was under duress or not.
Ya, cause anyone that goes out of their way slightly to protect themselves is expecting it. I lock my door because I want to get robbed.
@Lauralot: for the same reasons scientists don’t tell people what the true purpose of a study is for…so they don’t fowl up the numbers. When someone knows they are being taped, they behave like actors instead of their normal self.
Really, Brandon? Because earlier you said they go from 2% all the way up to 40%. Tell me you’re not pulling stats from your ass!
Lauralot – Although it’s not as creepy as secretly recording sex, if a man insisted on me taping consent before sex, I’d assume he was planning on turning off the tape recorder and doing something horrible.
It wouldn’t make me think “Gosh, I was going to false-rape-accuse him for my own amusement because apparently I don’t get cable or something–but now my plan is foiled and we’ll just have to have regular sex!”
It would make me think “He’s going to use this to convince a jury that I consented to everything that could possibly happen tonight, and I don’t want to fucking know what his ‘everything’ includes.”
I hate it when numbers get “fowled” up. Birdshit and feathers are impossible to get out.
@Hellkell: Yes I did say that, but those numbers aren’t really conclusive now, are they? There is a big difference between 2% and 60%. You might as well say you are going to die tomorrow or 10 years from now.
Now 60% is an option? OK, dude.
In some cases yes, but the more common case is someone who looks for very drunk people and targets them knowing that they will be easy to rape and hard to believe if they tell. (Did you not read the Lisak quote?) If someone goes out looking for someone who’s vulnerable, and then takes advantage of that vulnerability, that’s not calculated according to you, Simon?
But that seems really easy. (I know Simon’s still working on pre-101 level thinking, but try to keep up.) In fact, let’s take it in a different direction. Most but not all perpetrators of alcohol facilitated rape are calculating predators. Let’s look at a case that (I’d argue) didn’t necessarily involve predators or preparation: In a pretty famous case from NY state, a woman and her date were out drinking heavily at a bar. They were about to leave; the man went out to the car, and the woman went to the bathroom. Both passed out. Four men at the bar found the woman, took her to a booth at the back of the bar, and raped her. They got off, incidentally, because the jury found that she had been so drunk that it was possible she had consented and just didn’t remember it.
So, being gang raped was her fate? Is that what you get out of the story? Or do you get something like this: Not respecting others’ personal and sexual autonomy, even (and perhaps especially) when they’re in a vulnerable position is a particularly shitty thing to do, and people who do that are scum?
I just have to worry about someone who’s so intent on shifting blame to victims that he’s willing to disappear rapists.
Not only can you add a timestamp to recordings, you can add any timestamp you want.
Plus, hey, maybe the timestamp is accurate, and the rape occurred at a different time. Or if it’s only consent you’re recording, maybe she really did consent but didn’t realize that you’d then do other acts she hadn’t consented to.
I think the audio would be able to show if she was under duress or not.
Just the fact that you’re making this sort of calculations regarding your sex life is giving me the fucking willies. “I’m so hot for you, baby–now say you consent to sex into this microphone and if you sound nervous we’ll have to re-record.”
And no, it’s not always obvious. Some people have pretty good acting skills.
But you do let trusted friends into your house. Do you figure they’re still all going to rob you?
@HellKell: Obviously MRA’s are going to oversell it and make the claim that 40-60% of rape charges are false. While on the other hand feminists are going to downplay it as much as possible, and that is why the low number is 2%.
In the end, the truth usually lies between these two numbers. I would be willing it is in the range of 15-25%.
But Brandon, she can consent to both. Yes, dude, I get it. You want to have sex. Most of us enjoy sex very much and want to have as much of it as we can with as few negative consequences as possible. Why violate her -and it is a violation both ethically and legally- if you don’t have to?
@Nobinayamu: In a society that is under constant surveillance, I don’t see my little audio recorder as me violating her. She isn’t being harmed physically, so I see no issue with it.
Not only can you add a timestamp to recordings, you can add any timestamp you want.
Plus, hey, maybe the timestamp is accurate, and the rape occurred at a different time. Or if it’s only consent you’re recording, maybe she really did consent but didn’t realize that you’d then do other acts she hadn’t consented to.
I actually think this is kind of crossing a line the accused still have rights, and it’s the prosecution’s job to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Speculating about other sexual encounters and deliberate forgeries that you don’t have evidence for doesnt meet that burden, and it’s not something I think a responsible prosecutor should be doing.
You know that there are credible studies and research that you can access right? Do you know how that works?
In a society that is under constant surveillance, I don’t see my little audio recorder as me violating her. She isn’t being harmed physically, so I see no issue with it.
I’m going to have this professionally calligraphied on like really nice paper and mail it to every libertarian i know. no signature. no explanation. just this.
@Holly: Well, I can’t sleep with her on my front lawn now can I? So I sort of have to let her in to the house. Also, I have had people I don’t trust completely in my house. You know what I do? I watch them and don’t leave them alone (it’s typically one or two family members that have problems stealing or trying to fuel their drug habit).
I also, don’t keep my wallet in plain sight of girls that I just met. I learned my lesson when I woke up and all my cash was gone.
I don’t have any reason not to trust the girls that come into my place, but I also don’t trust them with important things like cash or trusting them not to lie.
I know you don’t have a problem with it. You don’t care about informed consent; I get it. That you don’t consider it a violation doesn’t magically make it not a violation in either the eyes of a potential partner or the law.
I’m asking you why? Why would you violate someone legally placing, placing yourself at risk of being charged with a sex crime and having all manner of bad things happen to you when you could just make it a playful sexual joke, get everything you need to verify consent, and have sex without breaking the law, violating a partner, and still having sex.
What you want to protect yourself from conviction in the event of a false rape accusation –so you claim- is evidence that the sex was, in fact, consensual. You don’t need to secretly record the entirety of a sexual encounter to procure that. So why would you want to do that?
Men could always start doing this:
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=219422
Actually, there’s probably a better way to find the correct answer than taking a wild stab at it. You could do some research. I have.
One comprehensive article recently compiled all false accusation studies. The results ranged from 1-point-something to 90 percent. According to experts most of these figures are based on unreliable sources. What it comes down to in most experts’ minds is Kanin versus a bunch of other studies that put the number at 8 percent or below. When you look at Kanin (his 1994 study of one Midwest town put the figure at 41 percent), you see a bunch of problems with his methodology. He’s relying on police conclusions, not on their investigations. There’s never been an attempt to recreate or test or check the results (there’s no way to do it, since Kanin hasn’t released much information about how and where he conducted the study), and there’s some implication that police treatment of the victims was at least kind of intimidating, especially if you know how trauma works.
So, on the other hand, there’s a whole crapload of rigorous research studies that put the number at between 2 and 8 percent. These studies are bigger, they’re more widespread, they’re testable, and they used consistent definitions for false reporting. And they all found more or less the same thing. 2-8 percent.
Sharculese – True, those aren’t points that would lead to a conviction, although I do think anything that suggests to a jury “he expected to be accused of rape” would lean them a bit toward suspicion.
They’re more point that would come up in my mind if a guy tried to record my consent.
@ Brandon: scientists don’t tell people what the true purpose of a study is for…so they don’t fowl up the numbers.
In the US, any researcher using human subjects who uses deceit in the process has to ONE, describe the rationale for it in an Institutional Board Review proposal, and TWO, explain how the participants will be told the truth afterwards.
Trufact: I was chair of my university IRB, and am currently heading up my department IRB (and will soon be chairing my college IRB).
This has nothing at all to do with the actual ethics of what Brandon who is NOT a scientist OR a researcher but probably had a class with one one time is actually doing, but good grief, I hate like fuck to see that kind of misinformation spread about.
It’s Brandon’s main discursive purpose of course–to blather on about stuff he knows shit about, but this touches on an area of my expertise.
Yeah, I own all of the Chappelle Show box sets. Even the last season. It was a funny joke then, it’s no less funny now.
What’s your point, Brandon? In your scenario there’s no good reason to violate a woman and put yourself at risk for criminal charges -you may have noticed that even in our society of constant surveillance, this kind of secret, illegal recording stuff is still prosecuted- because you can gain evidence of consent without doing so.
But you’re still arguing that your way is not only better, but what you’re going to do if you and Ashley don’t make it. Which is funny for a lot of reasons, one of which is your prior claim that you’d never recorded sex to verify consent when you were seeing multiple partners.
p.s., also FOUL the results, not FOWL (cluck cluck).
Sorry, englishteachermoment.
One good thing coming out of this “FRA” paranoia is that at least guys like Brandon are concerned about consent. A side effect of this whole “I’ll record her explicit consent!” master plan is that he’s asking for explicit consent.
So that’s nice I guess.
And yet, Holly, he’s not worried about anyone consenting to be filmed giving that consent. It’s meta!
You know Holly, I agree with you as far as that goes. I think it’s good for everyone to think about consent; explicit and enthusiastic consent. Men should think about it, women should think about it.
But it’s hard for me to praise the fact that Brandon knows he needs consent, when he’s hell bent for leather in regards to not giving a fuck about consent when it comes to recording sex. It’s so disengenuous and hypocritical and completely unnecessary even in the scenarios he’s laid out as hypotheticals.
it’s fucking gross.
Holy crap, EMPATHY. Now, do you have the same kind of feeling toward the VICTIMS of rape?
This isn’t South Park, you can’t pull a “The truth lies somewhere in the middle” with statistics that actual people have studied. Look at what Bee said and then think again.
Hey Sharculese, you haven’t been here in a while, but Brandon self-identifies as a libertarian and ALSO believes that taxes are morally equivalent to violent theft. I imagine it’s the mental equivalent of attempting to keep a vacuum cleaner band at full tension between your outstretched hands all day every day, but he holds these beliefs at the same time, seemingly without effort.
Ninjaed.
A very nice summation on Brandon’s entire Manboobz oeuvre.
Also, does anyone else here get just the…wrong sort of feeling from the phrase “my little audio recorder”? I’m imagining someone licking their lips as they say it.
Ah, Sharculese, ILU XD
“I also, don’t keep my wallet in plain sight of girls that I just met. I learned my lesson when I woke up and all my cash was gone.”
I guess this is the horrible thing that happened to Brandon that made him so paranoid?
Brandon, as a fellow casual fucker, I’d like to recommend you look for local swingers groups or orgy groups in your area. Many of them get to know each other at casual plainclothes meetups beforehand. That way you can get to know lots of people AND fuck lots of people without having to be creepy! No more of this “one random girl that I wouldn’t trust near my wallet”, more like “this one random girl that I can ask my friends about because they have known her for several years” or “this one random girl that I am fucking at a venue instead of my house so my Wii is safe”. There are many less nutty ways to have safer casual sex.
I guess what that fellow meant was that Brandon has been enthusiastically and repeatedly committing intellectual Seppuku.
Dear Brandon, any working scientist will tell you that not all studies are made equal. Ten poorly designed studies are not worth even one well designed one, and the results of the other ten do not mitigate the conclusions of the one. There’s no golden medium between badly collected knowledge and well collected knowledge. Here is that post on manboobz I mentioned some time ago.
http://manboobz.com/2010/11/11/mens-rights-myth-false-rape-accusations/
I gather you have not put any effort into learning more as of yet.
@ithiliana: I don’t report to a board or a committee, nor do I have too. I am not publishing research papers, I am contemplating ways to cover my ass.
@Nobinayamu: Again, I got the idea from dangerandplay’s website. I didn’t really think about taping people during sex when I started dating Ashley. As of now, I trust her so I see no reason to do it.
@Voip: I have sympathy towards any victim of violence. Whether it be a mugging, prison rape, male-female rape, assault and battery, etc…Violence is really the last resort and should only be used for defense.
Even if it was only 2-8%, when viewed at from a number of incidences/per 100,000, it is still 1800-7200 false accusations per year if 90,000 rapes were reported. I don’t really think that number is insignificant, especially if you are one of those 2-8%.
Also, the odds of dying from a plane crash are miniscule, but we as a society go completely overboard with airport security. Why are they so paranoid about it? Because it is easily controlled (everyone must get screened by TSA agents) and because the results are devastating if it happens. So it isn’t so much about the odds of something happening, but how much damage is actually caused by the incident. If airplane crashes didn’t really cause that much damage to people and property, then the hysteria would most likely be far less. Being falsely accused of a serious felony, can ruin you and you can’t recover from it.
@Molly: Oh, I am sorry. I should just lay all my valuable shit around so people can steal it from me. Keeping valuable things out of sight doesn’t make me paranoid, it makes me prudent. I give people the opportunity to be seen as trustworthy, but until I trust them, I only trust them with insignificant stuff.
Why would I look for casual flings now? I am in a committed relationship. If that dissolves, then that is a different story. I also find the whole “swinger club” and “orgies” to be slightly creepy. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
@Moewicus: Ya…like David F is even remotely objective. What next? Are you going to post links to angryharry.com? You can’t really be objective when the results can strengthen or hurt your side. That’s like having a Patriots fan ref a game with the Pats playing …completely biased even if unintentional. Just like I think the MRA stats are crap, studies conducted by feminist think tanks and shills are just as dubious.
And honestly, this site is a parody website. It falls under the category of “humor” not “level headed scientific studies”
Bitches cheat like crazy, everyone knows it. The reason that women and fembots are always saying men are the nasy cheaters is nothing short of projection.
I remember a girlfriend I had a few years back was constantly accusing me of cheating. She even accused me of cheating with a friend of mine who is a full-on dyke, yes, she was that bad with it.
Trouble was it was she who was doing the cheating the whole time.
That said, I handled it well, I didn’t break up with her, I merely used it as opportunity to begin cheating on her, and I did it alot. I even made her suck my dick, unshowered, after I just boned another bitch at her place. Often times when she’d get upset with me, and she started crying, I’d bring up all the fucked up shit from her past, and she’d start crying even more – then I’d made her suck my dick while she was crying.
That’s how you handle a woman who cheats.
Looks like I missed a hell of a party.
kirby:
Ah. That expalins why all the men are in prison, as Holly’s pointed out.
So how does not having sex with someone protect a person from false accusations?
Brandon:
Isn’t that the point of having law? To protect society from people who only take their own risks into account?
kirby:
I’m guessing he doesn’t, since I get the sense that in Brandonworld, women have no fear whatsoever of FRA, and rape of women doesn’t happen to Brandon and so is irrelevant.
Nobinayamu:
I suspect he’s going for the common PUA argument that men are divided into people who have “natural Game” and people who have to learn it. That makes the books and seminars no more objectionable than wearing contact lenses.
Slavey:
And the guy said “me? You’re the one with the dirty pictures.”
Brandon:
I love how he gives a response that doesn’t even touch on whether it’s acceptible behavior.
Brandon:
Yeah. If you’re that untrusting you may want to weigh that against the disadvantages of celibacy, though again, if you’re that untrusting I’d think you wouldn’t find celibacy much protection.
Also, since you’re saying here that you don’t trust anyone, how do you have sex with Ashley?
I don’t think video is the only available defense. But it’s true that if you surreptitiously record all your encounters you’ll never be falsely accused of rape.
Brandon:
Do you understand why it’s disturbing that when people say “don’t have sex with women you don’t trust” what you hear is “don’t have sex”?
Brandon!
All psychologists can retire now, Brandon has identified the only two personality types in the world.
NullPointer:
I imagine if they’re all, as it were, huddled together for protection, there is such a code, both to prevent cracks being taken advantage of by their many powerful enemies and to ensure they have each others’ backs in the case of some external threat.
Bee:
And, Simon, you wanna know why they won’t be believed? Because of assholes who say that if a drunk woman is raped, it’s fate. Know anyone like that?
A group of people getting together to have honest, enthusiastically consensual, safe sex? “Creepy”.
Secretly and illegally recording a woman who has consented to sex with you but not consented to being to being recorded? What violation?
Fucking gross.
Oh I see, Brandon’s a scientist. That makes illegal recording all okay, apparently.
Exactly what “results” would taping/recording a woman consenting interfere with? The results of getting laid? Actually, it probably would because if some guy is paranoid enough about being accused of rape, that’s probably not a guy most women would spend time around. But if the result is not getting a false rape accusation (I’m guessing because I have absolutely no idea what results he’s talking about) isn’t that exactly what you want in the first place?
Oh, so you DO cheat on Ashley, after all?
That’s assuming what’s quoted is true, of course. I have a rule about taking people’s statements at face values unless I have a good basis to be suspicious, and these PUA’s — everything from their video-game jargon to justifying misogyny in the most bizarre imaginable way reeks of wish-fulfillment. So yes, my guess is that “game” mostly consists of frustrated men living in a fantasy world and bragging to each other.
After all, women too, speak from experience. I have had the whole “brash and aloof” bullshit tried on me, and it’s laughable. A man who isn’t attractive to me because he is stupid, ignorant, embraces arcane values and has no looks to compensate for any of that, doesn’t suddenly acquire magnetism any more than steamed Brussels sprouts become tastier now that no one is trying to force me to eat them. (O Vomitous Abomination! Thank you for not being shoved in front of me anymore, with a side of a lecture on how good you are for my health (the “caring and attentive” part). Though you stink up whatever room you are in something fierce (the “brash” part) while staying the hell of my plate (the “aloof” part), I still say with absolute certainty that I would rather have my lifespan shortened by 20 years than eat you.)
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One of the funniest things about the whole FRA hysteria is the hilariously contradictory belief that the overwhelming majority of women falsely accuse men of rape because they are hateful, lying bitches — but at the same time, they only accuse men they’ve actually had sex with. Seriously, if women make up shit like that out of whole cloth all the time, and courts convict men solely on women’s testimony without without any physical evidence, why is that women stop short of accusing men that they haven’t fucked at all?
@ Brandon: I don’t report to a board or a committee, nor do I have too. I am not publishing research papers, I am contemplating ways to cover my ass.
I know you don’t, but your ‘ways of covering your ass’ are about as fucking wrong as what you compared them to–i.e. “scientists.” Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Totally and completely wrong.
WRONG.
Brandon, you seem to be estimating your chance of being accused of rape on the number of all rape accusations that are false, rather than the number of false accusations per the number of sex acts. Since you are not raping people the number you should be concerned with is the total number of sex acts per year. Looking at the Kinsey Institute’s numbers and the U.S. census numbers it seems that you have considerably less than a one in a million chance of being falsely accused of rape. Now I did not correct for decreased sexual frequency in the over 49 cohort, but given the higher population in the younger cohort I felt I could safely ignore this detail for a cursory examination. Anyhow with an average of over 3 partnered sexual encounters per month for Americans over the age of 15 and given 239,596,828 people in that cohort we have 8,625,485,808 partnered sex acts per year. To use your numbers there are as many as 7,200 false rape accusations per year. Ignoring for the moment the incidences of false rape accusations in which there was no sex act, that is one false rape accusation per 1,197,984.14 sexual acts. You are advocating criminally violating another human’s rights in order to have a tool to protect yourself from an event that is literally less than a one in a million chance.
<blockquote.@Voip: I have sympathy towards any victim of violence. Whether it be a mugging, prison rape, male-female rape, assault and battery, etc…Violence is really the last resort and should only be used for defense.
So, you are capable of reading the words that I type. Awesome. Now what about my and Amused’s point that, since things work out better for you when you don’t provoke hostility, not being a fucking wanker is actually the most rational choice from the perspective of self-interest?
And what does rape have to do with “Violence is really the last resort and should only be used for defense”? Seriously, man, the things you post don’t follow one upon the other. You type like someone fed the contents of a bunch of libertarian/MRA websites into a random word generator and hit “frappe”.
Lolling over here.
@Nugganu: Cool story bro.
The last time we were over this, he danced around the issue and the clearest statement we could get out of him was that he wasn’t opposed to doing so, in principle, and if she didn’t like it she was welcome to leave. Now, whether any actual cheating is going on or whether this is the self-involved fantasy of a lonely manchild is, in fact, open to debate.
Nobinayamu: Yah, I dunno why I even tried to give him advice. Naturally one man picking up one untrustworthy woman at a bar means you have better “Game” than cultivating relationships with a group of people that you can then fuck regularly for years!
I love Brussels spouts. Ya gotta saute them in bacon grease, though.
Cover them in olive oil, minced garlic, and lots of salt and pepper and broil them.
I hate them no matter what people put on them.
I’ve wondered about this. Never mind just MRAs; if false rape accusations are easy to make and if women are eager to make them, it’s amazing that any widely disliked man isn’t in prison.
Politician you hate wins an election? Accuse him of rape! CEO orders five thousand layoffs? Accuse him of rape! Pundit insults everything you believe in front of an audience of millions? Accuse him of rape! Sports team you hate beats your hometown team with cheap lousy tactics and acts like total jerks about it? Accuse them of rape!
On Earth, this doesn’t happen because making a rape accusation is an ordeal even if it’s true; it’s months to years of having your body and story and life and “reputation” scrutinized, taking tremendous amounts of time and absolutely emotionally draining you and often pitting family and friends against you. And given the number of acquittals for cases as clear-cut-seeming as teenage girls being gang-raped on video, a conviction is far from a sure thing. Also most women do have a sense of morals and actually don’t want to dishonestly ruin a man’s life even if they dislike him.
But in MRA-land, where none of these things are true and any woman can simply order a man’s incarceration, it’s a goddamn mystery why any man with female enemies walks free.
CULINARY MADLIB TIME
Nugganu is my vote for the MRA Trolling Awards’ “Most likely to actually rape someone then complain that they’re being the target of a false rape accusation”.
Therefore, based on a thought or a feeling — not actually looking at any of these studies or reading anything written by anyone else who’s looked at the studies — Brandon concludes on his own that the best figure is one that hasn’t actually been cited since the rape statute reforms several decades ago (repealing corroboration and utmost resistance requirements and the marital rape exception, and enacting rape shield laws, etc.). Interesting. I love how that works.
I don’t see my little audio recorder as me violating her. She isn’t being harmed physically, so I see no issue with it.
Brandon, you stupid, self-centered, short-sighted fuck: How you see it DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. SHE is the one who decides if she’s been violated, NOT YOU. That’s how consent fucking works, you ego-maniacal twit.
I would be so creeped out by Nugganu, except that I think it’s probably just his masturbatory fantasy he’s describing.
Nugganu, I am somewhat dumbstruck by the novel and horrific method for avoiding a false rape accusation you seem to be employing.
Please elaborate on what you mean by the word ‘made’ in the phrases, “I even made her suck my dick…” and “…then I’d made her suck my dick while she was crying.” If you are engaging in a sexual act with a partner that is crying it is unlikely that you have enthusiastic consent for that act. If you find yourself compelling anyone to engage in any sexual act, such as making them suck your dick, you should, at the very least, stop immediately and never do it again.
Fatman, I am really hoping that Nugannu was making up his creepy story. It would be too horrifying to know if he really does receive oral sex from his girlfriend while she is crying.
nugganu: I think you mis addressed that letter – wasn’t it supposed to go to Penthouse?
Just to be clear Brandon-you are refusing to get consent to be video taped from the women you are filming to avoid a FRA even though 1. there is next to no chance it would happen (less then one in a million) and 2. getting consent to both the sex and the taping would leave you in the clear?
Because the woman might not be “natural” in terms of the sex you proceed to have?
And committing multiple felonies is AOK as long as it does not involve actually raping someone?
New MRA tagline? “Avoid false rape convictions by actually raping people.”
Or maybe they’re kinky swingers and she gets off on cuckold fantasies, verbal humiliation and crying? Please tell me that’s the explanation.
@Bee:
Oh god, “fate” was just a poetic exaggeration.
Sympathy is not rationally explainable but if I hear jokes like “boo fucking hoo Simon is not allowed to rape”… what sympathy do you expect?
I don’t know what’s wrong with them, I think it’s a kind of fetish to imagine that every men desperately wants to f*ck them, but haha! isn’t allowed.
Yes it’s wrong to rape drunk women and I’m sorry if anybody was offended because I said something else. But why isn’t drinking to the point of not being oneself not also seen as simply wrong, too?
@Nugganu: That’s just sick man. You know what you do with a cheating girlfriend? You kick her to the curb. There is no need to be spiteful. Like the old saying goes “out with the old, in with the new”.
@Hershele: Ya, laws are there to mainly protect people from physical harm, Just because you have an uncomfortable emotion doesn’t mean shit. Your emotions are your problem, not mine. I don’t blame others for my emotions, I deal with them and move the hell on.
It might be unacceptable behavior for you, but not for me. My morality is not your morality.
Be celebate? Are you out of your damn mind? I don’t have to trust girls to sleep with them. Love and sex are two completely different things and I can do both without relying on the other.
I trust Ashley. But it took time. There are still things I wont let her do when it comes to my personal stuff (bank accounts, giving her my credit card, etc…). Her money is her money and mine is mine…there is no intermingling of major things like finances.
Those weren’t the only two personality types in existence, just two extremes.
@Lauralot: No one said I was a scientist.
@Amused: Umm…no I don’t cheat. There is no need for it. If I wanted to go back and sleep with multiple women again, I would break up with Ashley and go do that or I would tell her “I want to sleep with other women” and if she left, then that’s what she wanted to do.
@Dracula: Is that how that works? I get to decide when a crime as been committed against me? So if I said “I feel so violated around you” Does that make you a criminal? Umm…no. It would make me an overly emotional cry baby.
If she consents to having sex without knowing you’re filming her doing it, she does not know what she’s actually consenting to. Filming her is something you are doing to her without her knowledge or permission. So yes, if she decides that it was a violation, then it was. That is, in fact, how it works.
@Dracula: Again, the sex and the taping are two different issues. She would be consenting to sex…but not the taping.
@Amused; Joining you in the brusssl sprouts hate no matter what they’re cooked in, on, around, or by.
Artichokes, though, YYYYYYYYYYYYMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYY!