Mod of Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit shocked – shocked! – that dozens of commenters there were begging for nude pics of a 14-year-old
Ugh. It’s the Jailbait subreddit again. If you’ve been following any of the discussions that have recently been swirling around Reddit’s popular subreddit dedicated to the posting of technically-not-child-porn pics of underage girls, you probably ran across the standard Jailbait apologia: The pics there aren’t nude pics, and besides, most of them were originally posted on the internet by the girls themselves. So it’s all good clean fun, I guess.
It’s going to be a little bit harder for the Jailbaiters to use this bullshit argument in the future. A day or so ago, you see, a Jailbaiter calling himself TheContortionist posted a pic of his (alleged) 14-year-old ex-girlfriend’s ass in a thong. Naturally, the regulars demanded more. The OP noted that the only other pics he had of her were nudes.
So literally dozens of the regulars – I counted around 70 in all — begged him to PM the nudes to them. And … apparently he did send some of them the pics, at least according to a r/jailbait moderator with the charming handle I_RAPE_PEOPLE.
I can only hope that some of the requesters were FBI agents.
Here’s a screenshot of the whole disgusting thread (SFW; in an earlier NSFW screenshot posted to Reddit virtually all of the comments you see downvoted here still had net upvotes).
TheContortionist’s post (and the Jailbaiters’ reaction to it) was first brought to the attention of non-pedo Redditors by Me_bender in ShitRedditSays, then brought to the attention of the rest of Reddit by SRS regular HPLovecraft.
Naturally, this being Reddit, the r/jailbait apologists are still insisting that, hey, even though something like 70 people in r/jailbait publicly requested PMs of child porn, this sort of thing is officially frowned upon by the subreddit’s mods, so, you know, not to worry. As CapNRoddy put it:
The existence of r/jailbait does not mean nudes of children. Those are against the rules. Those posters broke the rules.
And then of course there were various iterations of this non-argument, set forth here by im_only_a_dolphin:
You know what I do about /r/jailbait?
I don’t visit it. Bam. Problem solved.
If by “solved” you mean “ignored, because I don’t give a shit about crimes that harm people other than me,” then I guess, yeah, that is “problem solved.”
I’ve been taking these quotes from the sometimes surreal discussion of the issue on the WTF subreddit. That discussion also produced this rather surreal exchange with I_RAPE_PEOPLE, the r/jailbait moderator I mentioned earlier:
Meanwhile, in another discussion of the topic elsewhere on Reddit, voidsong managed to get more than a dozen net upvotes for a comment that attempted to place the blame for the pics in r/jailbait on “daddy’s little angels slutting themselves up and taking pictures in the mirror” (and, of course, their parents).
I can only hope that the authorities are investigating these creeps, and that the Reddit admins are cooperating fully with them.
Posted on October 10, 2011, in creepy, hypocrisy, idiocy, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 452 Comments.
Cassandra, quite frankly, I don’t believe you. That’s ridiculous.
Why wouldn’t you believe her? Other than that you suck, but c’mon.
Actually there are quite a lot of girls who have very obvious boobs by the time they’re 9 or 10. Can I safely assume that you’re pretending to yourself that they’re older so that you don’t have to feel guilty about staring at their boobs?
MRAL, do you not believe that anyone gets boobs at age 8, or are you just wanking at Cassandra specifically?
“Cassandra, quite frankly, I don’t believe you. That’s ridiculous.”
9 is… unusual? (Not a specialist in child development.) But I’d say there are a fair amount of women who get breasts at least a year before they’re legal.
So he believes my boobs but not Cassandra’s? I feel left out. :(
Also I guess you don’t believe Bagelsan either? Or maybe you’re just too dim to understand what her comment was implying.
Maybe small girls arming themselves in his presence is so normal he didn’t even think twice about it. :D
That’s OK, Bagelsan, some day you too will reach official “is a lying bitch” status.
Actually, are we gonna waste this whole thread arguing about boobs making someone look legal? : / I feel deja vu coming on.
@hellkell
“NWO, learn to read plz. No one is calling them pervs for looking. They are being called pervs for asking for nude pics of underage girls. Can you spot the difference?”
I see the same old. same old. A young girl taking nude or semi nude pictures of herself. And men wanting to look at them. You could tell the girl to stop taking nude pictures of herself, show a little sexual restraint and place the blame where it belongs, but you can’t. If you did that, she would be responsible for her own actions. That’s unacceptable. The answer is to blame men for any woman/girls indiscretion. Man/bad. Woman/good. Must be maintained.
Maybe this time they’ll switch it up a little and base their opinion of which little girls it’s OK to molest on pubic hair instead. Or what was it that they were waffling about a while back, arm hair?
I meant the C cup thing. No 10 year old has c cup tits.
“I see the same old. same old. A young girl taking nude or semi nude pictures of herself.”
I was actually going to ask NWOslave if he thought the 14 year old girl in the article above took her own photos. I guess I don’t have to do that now. :P
Oh, for fuck’s sake, I give up with you. Did you even read the OP? Or did you just scan for the keywords that flip your rage switch so you could throw down your c&p rants?
Yes they do, dear.
I think that any little girls that stand in open fields at night are asking to be swooped on by owls. Speaking of owls, do you often poop little skeletons, NWO? (And BAM we’re back on topic! ;D)
“Speaking of owls, do you often poop little skeletons, NWO?”
Now THAT gave me the creepies when I read it. o.o
The magical abilities of teenage girls to elf-objectify are so powerful that they can take pictures of their own asses without the aid of a mirror.
Of course MRAL doesn’t believe Cassandra. That’s her curse–not being believed by MRAs.
I’m pretty sure the Aeneid says that somewhere.
Um yeah. Self, not elf.
The point is, this is a ephebeliliac forum, not a pedophilic one, so the snide comments should be banned and those that make them tried for slander.
-{OvO}-
>–8<o
(Owl swooping in on little girl with boobs. I'm a fucking artist, y'all. These should be diagrams for the Book o Larning!)
Though I’m sure reddit must have a thread about objectifying elves somewhere. Rule 34 and all.
“The point is, this is a ephebeliliac forum, not a pedophilic one, so the snide comments should be banned and those that make them tried for slander.”
I think the point is that taking nude pics of a 14 year old and passing them around isn’t legal under any circumstances. I don’t give a flying fuck what label you slap on it.
Sorry Molly! Please be consoled by my fabulously stubby pedo attack owl drawing above. :D
MRAL, if we were going to try people for slander for saying snide and possibly untrue things about people on the Internet, I could take you to court right now, and so could most of the other people on this blog.
Anyone else want to answer the survey?
Daenerys Targaryen was 14 when she got fucked by Khal Drogo, and look at her now.
MRAL, your lack of knowledge of women’s development is surpassed only by your lack of knowledge as to what constitutes slander. Don’t they teach you anything at that university of yours?
Mm, I can’t get me enough of that good old fashioned false equivalency! Cook up some more, MRAL! Yee haw.
“Daenerys Targaryen was 14 when she got fucked by Khal Drogo, and look at her now.”
You just won’t let that go, will you? XD
Yep, the “technically it’s ephebophilia!” argument is always super sympathetic with juries, I imagine.
Oh, so we’re confusing fiction with real life? Suddenly everything MRAL writes makes so much more sense.
(Well, still not sense exactly, but you know what I mean.)
/delurks
I teach 6th grade. About half of my female students have obvious breasts, even those who are hovering around four feet tall. MRAL does not live in our world.
But you knew that.
Oh my jeezus, GoT as primary source for human development and argument for laxer rape laws. Even a Poe would be like “…nah, it’s too obvious.” XD
@Molly Ren
“I was actually going to ask NWOslave if he thought the 14 year old girl in the article above took her own photos. I guess I don’t have to do that now.”
Were those photos taken against her will or did she pose for them?
I mean what’s next? Will we post nude photo’s of young girls on billboards and any man caught looking get put on the sexual offenders registry?
If ya don’t want nude photos of yourself all over the internet than don’t fucking pose for any. It’s that simple. Show a little restraint and a little accountability.
This is exactly what I mean about being indoctrinated to instantly blame men and side with any girl/woman.
Yes. Yes, they are. Soliciting explicit photos of minors is a crime. The girl was identified as 14 yo, that’s below the age of consent. CRIME, LAWS BROKEN. Just because you think the laws are shit doesn’t exempt you or your cronies from them.
I know you don’t know anything about the law at all, MRAL, but there’s no libel case here (Because this isn’t the spoken word, it isn’t slander in the USA; and as everyone who’s dealt with you knows about your pea-brained beliefs, no other country matters). Putting aside potential truth defenses, libel requires you to damage a person’s reputation so much it affects their economic well-being (In effect, and in most states).
Nonexistent, just like she was when she started.
By the way, who the fuck was this guy who had the pictures in the first place? Another 14-year old? That’s creepy. An older guy who had saved these pictures for years? That’s creepier. An older guy who has been porking a 14 year old? That’s criminal.
Even if the soliciting of kiddie porn wasn’t a crime, sending and receiving it still would be. Also I’m pretty sure that a good lawyer could take existing laws about purchasing kiddieporn and convince a jury that they still applied even if no money changed hands.
Rutee, I also like Canada.
Really, MRAL should try going through all the stuff GRRM puts his poor fucking characters through — I’m sure he could walk it off in RL, right? A little rapemurderincestinfanticidetortureslavery never did anyone any harm! :p
MRAL: The fact that the person who took the pictures is a skeevy asshole does not excuse the behavior of the other skeevy assholes who were begging for copies. IT IS ILLEGAL. And sick. And wrong.
I am completely unfamiliar with GOT. Is it Gor-like and that’s why MRAL finds it so appealing?
Cassandra: It’s not Gor-like, but the author seems to be gunning for the Mercedes Lackey Lifetime Achievement Award for Character Torture. But he spread it around, everybody suffers!
Nah, GoT is actual pretty cool, but it is super gritty and miserable and violent and rapey for basically everyone. No one in their right mind would want to go through a fraction of what those characters have inflicted on them, let alone use them as models of how the world should function. :p
MRAL wrote, “By the way, who the fuck was this guy who had the pictures in the first place? Another 14-year old? That’s creepy. An older guy who had saved these pictures for years? That’s creepier. An older guy who has been porking a 14 year old? That’s criminal.”
Oddly, NWOslave seems incapable of asking these same questions.
AFAIK Game of Thrones is just Grimdark.
I mean hey, one of the characters has technically survived being imprisoned and raped and tortured and starved and literally driven insane and having his body parts chopped off — so MRAL shouldn’t whine if any of that happened to him, right? It kind of turned out okay in the end! ^^
MRAL, what do you like about Canada?
@KathleenB
“Yes. Yes, they are. Soliciting explicit photos of minors is a crime. The girl was identified as 14 yo, that’s below the age of consent. CRIME, LAWS BROKEN. Just because you think the laws are shit doesn’t exempt you or your cronies from them.”
Isn’t it ironic that a girl who either poses for the pictures or takes them herself commits no crime. How is that possible? How is that a girl, who has committed the act, is blameless? Yet any “man” who looks at the act she committed is a criminal?
I don’t think it’s SICK, as in physiologically abnormal. I mean, a mature-looking female ass is a mature-looking female ass, no matter the age. Maybe it’s morally wrong. Meh. I don’t really think this stuff is a very big deal, though. Don’t put your shit on Facebook if you don’t want people viewing it and possibly cranking it. I mean, do you have any idea how many girls’ photos I’ve whacked off over? A lot.
“I mean, do you have any idea how many girls’ photos I’ve whacked off over? A lot.”
TMI, dude.
Full disclosure, when I first saw LotR as a teenage girl I did a lot of elf-objectifying.
Thanks, Bagelsan, you reminded me I forgot to comment on…
Bastard, I was drinking when I read that.
Aw, be nice CassandraSays. Having a functional penis is like the greatest achievement of his life!
NWO: No adults involved, no crime. Even 14 yo girls have the right to take pictures. From the way these pics were described, tho, she didn’t take them – her adult ‘boyfriend’ took them. Automatically illegal. And even if she took them, the pervs salivating and demanding the nekked ones should have fucking well known better than to break the law like that.
Also, going back a bit, even if MRAL doesn’t believe Bagelsan and myself that we had substantial boobs at under 10, how old does he think most girls are when they get boobs? I’d say the average is about 12 or so. So it’s OK for grown men to solicit pics of 12 year olds? Just far down the age range do we have to go before he admits that it’s not OK no matter how “mature” the girls look since they are not in fact mature at all? If there existed somewhere in the world a 7 year old with boobs would it be OK for dudes to trade naked pictures of her because hey, boobs?
Sady of Tiger Beatdown did an analysis of Game of Thrones.
Personally I could not make it past the part in the first book, maybe forty pages in when the *spoilerwhisper*window thing happens*spoilerwhisper*. Not because I was dismayed, but because I did not find it interesting. And I read every single chapter of the more boring of the Wheel of Time books (that was years ago, though, so maybe it doesn’t count anymore).
MRAL: What part of my responses sounded even remotely like ‘tell me about your wanking habits?’ I don’t want to know. And yes, knowingly asking for nude photos of a 14 yo is morally wrong as well as legally. And I think it’s gross, ymmv.
That’s a pretty hilarious gigantic leap there, Bagelsan. But yes, dicks are way better than gashes.
“Full disclosure, when I first saw LotR as a teenage girl I did a lot of elf-objectifying.”
did you solicit elf nudes on Reddit though? :D
Actually, I believe teenagers have been charged with possession of child porn for having nude pictures of themselves. Does that make you feel better?
And yes, any “man” (it’s good that you put “man” in quotes – these…creatures are clearly men in name only) who – as these “men” did – possesses, seeks out, transmits or receives nude pictures of a fourteen-year-old girl is a criminal, as they should be.
@Moewicus: I remember the Wheel of Time books! I stopped reading them because they were INSANELY dull towards… what, the 5th book? You are a far more dedicated fantasy reader than I. :P
*adjusts dress*
*adjusts neckline*
*adjusts dress*
…What? I’m a female character, just keeping it real. :D (Later I plan on having an all-topless meeting, because that’s what women do, and then I will join Rand’s harem. Because this series wasn’t total author wish-fulfillment or anything… ;p)
MRAL: My vulva is not a gash and I will thank you kindly to refrain from referring to it as such. Seem to recall that getting you on moderation last time, too.
Well I am outta here.
Be sure to tell all the young girls to snap nude photos of themselves and pass them around for men to look at. Reassure them they did nothing wrong and they are totally innocent. Console them and tell them all the bad men who look will be arrested.
“But yes, dicks are way better than gashes.”
But can you break walnuts with your dick? I use mine to hide valuables. :D
We still talking about your dick? “Hilarious” yes, “gigantic” no.