Mod of Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit shocked – shocked! – that dozens of commenters there were begging for nude pics of a 14-year-old
Ugh. It’s the Jailbait subreddit again. If you’ve been following any of the discussions that have recently been swirling around Reddit’s popular subreddit dedicated to the posting of technically-not-child-porn pics of underage girls, you probably ran across the standard Jailbait apologia: The pics there aren’t nude pics, and besides, most of them were originally posted on the internet by the girls themselves. So it’s all good clean fun, I guess.
It’s going to be a little bit harder for the Jailbaiters to use this bullshit argument in the future. A day or so ago, you see, a Jailbaiter calling himself TheContortionist posted a pic of his (alleged) 14-year-old ex-girlfriend’s ass in a thong. Naturally, the regulars demanded more. The OP noted that the only other pics he had of her were nudes.
So literally dozens of the regulars – I counted around 70 in all — begged him to PM the nudes to them. And … apparently he did send some of them the pics, at least according to a r/jailbait moderator with the charming handle I_RAPE_PEOPLE.
I can only hope that some of the requesters were FBI agents.
Here’s a screenshot of the whole disgusting thread (SFW; in an earlier NSFW screenshot posted to Reddit virtually all of the comments you see downvoted here still had net upvotes).
TheContortionist’s post (and the Jailbaiters’ reaction to it) was first brought to the attention of non-pedo Redditors by Me_bender in ShitRedditSays, then brought to the attention of the rest of Reddit by SRS regular HPLovecraft.
Naturally, this being Reddit, the r/jailbait apologists are still insisting that, hey, even though something like 70 people in r/jailbait publicly requested PMs of child porn, this sort of thing is officially frowned upon by the subreddit’s mods, so, you know, not to worry. As CapNRoddy put it:
The existence of r/jailbait does not mean nudes of children. Those are against the rules. Those posters broke the rules.
And then of course there were various iterations of this non-argument, set forth here by im_only_a_dolphin:
You know what I do about /r/jailbait?
I don’t visit it. Bam. Problem solved.
If by “solved” you mean “ignored, because I don’t give a shit about crimes that harm people other than me,” then I guess, yeah, that is “problem solved.”
I’ve been taking these quotes from the sometimes surreal discussion of the issue on the WTF subreddit. That discussion also produced this rather surreal exchange with I_RAPE_PEOPLE, the r/jailbait moderator I mentioned earlier:
Meanwhile, in another discussion of the topic elsewhere on Reddit, voidsong managed to get more than a dozen net upvotes for a comment that attempted to place the blame for the pics in r/jailbait on “daddy’s little angels slutting themselves up and taking pictures in the mirror” (and, of course, their parents).
I can only hope that the authorities are investigating these creeps, and that the Reddit admins are cooperating fully with them.
Posted on October 10, 2011, in creepy, hypocrisy, idiocy, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 452 Comments.
I never thought I would say this…but I hope we stay off topic. The topic at hand is too gross to even joke about. At least the trolls are being good cannon fodder for us today.
QFT. I’m stealing this and using it forever.
And if he likes eating pussy and sincerely enjoys sex with women as well then he is…..?
You can go ahead and pretend that liking pussy and liking cock are two mutually exclusive things. You can, but you’d be really, really wrong.
Also, you are a Poe. No one can be this blatantly and stupidly bigoted. Even DKM pussyfoots around the whole “I like to beat on uppity bitches” thing.
@Katz: That better?
Much better, Dracula.
I’ve noticed that when something is particularly indefensible, they come up with creative ways of skirting the issue:
a) women created the system
b) men can’t control themselves
c) GAY PEOPLE
Somehow, I think the concept of a bisexual married person would blow Trollboy’s mind into the stratosphere…
I think what derailed it was Delta saying “Oh yeah!? Feminists seduce young women to lesbian feminism so there!” No doubt with strap-ons, because that’s the only way for them to be homosexual. Which is like totally true btw.
Polliwog sez:
Indeed. I figure they must extrapolate from their own desires and project them onto others–notice that Delta’s stupid definition of homosexual requires certain actions but zie explicitly dismisses attraction as being defining. Once you board the Cock Train (related to the Alpha Cock Carousel) it takes you into the Gay Land of No Return. It probably serves the function of allowing certain people to alleviate their anxiety by letting them tell themselves at least they haven’t done it.
But that’s just me speculating, of course.
I think s/he needs the Daily Show’s R. Kelly impersonator.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-10-2007/trapped-in-the-closet-pt–1
This whole post is really making my stomach do flips. God, I hope some (read, “all”) of these guys get investigated.
“As I said, there is no such thing as a bi-sexual man – if you suck c*ck, you’re gay.”
And with a dramatic puff of smoke, my ex boyfriend vanishes into thin air.
Also, you know, a lot of these guys seem to me like they get off more on the idea that they’re doing something that society doesn’t want them to do than actual pedophiles. It just seems like a really childish “you can’t tell me I can’t do that!” thing for most of them. Even if they got their way (which they won’t) and the age on consent was lowered to 12, they’d probably just start looking for “sexy” pictures of 11 year olds.
“If you partake suck c*cks and partake in sodomy, you are fully gay. Being turned on by a puckering male anus is your true sexuality.”
Peeps, I’ve been leading you wrong all this time. Instead of an agender hippo, I’m actually a gay man.
“Peeps, I’ve been leading you wrong all this time. Instead of an agender hippo, I’m actually a gay man.”
NOOOOO
DON’T LEAVE ME HIPPO
Haha, yeah, I caught that on reading. I need to go tell my girlfriend she wants a strap on.
Wait, no, the opposite of that, because it’s stupid.
“What about those who swing both ways? AC-DC?”
They move through the room like ambulance drivers.
Do ambulance drivers suck a lot of cock, now? I feel I’ve lost the thread of this conversation…
Yes they do.
:)
Actually, you might have a point there. It’s one thing to say “wow, this shit really stinks” and another to go rooting through it every day.
This goes for the commenters as well, the Boob Gang is kind of obsessed with the daily doings of MRAs, aren’t they? :p
… My saying I really honestly don’t have a problem with pedophilia (or ephebophelia, or hebephilia, or any of that set) as long as you don’t actually hurt anyone in pursuit of what turns you on — whether by distributing pics of underage individuals, child molestation, or whatever else — went virtually uncommented on. I’m a little scared, to be honest. Then again, Delta’s stupidity is downright breath-taking…
So is there such a thing as a bisexual woman? Why are men and women different in that respect [in Delta's eyes]?
Nezumi – I don’t have a problem with un-acted-upon pedophilia, either.
But this is:
A) Acting upon it in a way that can directly harm the girl in question
and
B) Probably not even true pedophilia, in a lot of cases. I get the sense these guys are more into the exploitation and the myth of a teenager being sexier and less “despoiled” than they are directly attracted to childhood. I think most of them are attracted to adult women, but they just don’t get the same nasty thrills out of pursuing them.
I agree with Holly. As I said above, I don’t get the sense that most of the guys on that forum are true pedophiles/ephebophiles, they’re just jerks who get a kick out of doing things that they know they’re not supposed to do, and possible they’re also motivated by the fact that underage girls often react to sexual advances from older men with fear.It seems to be a power thing more than an issue of who they’re attracted to.
If you consider how much of his time is spent with his head firmly planted inside one, it’s kind of obvious…
@Nezumi – yeah, I don’t think you can hold people accountable for their thoughts and attractions, only their actions. Being attracted to young people, given the valorisation of youth in our culture, is not entirely unnatural or anything. It’s just wrong if you then act on it and hurt people.
I wasn’t saying the Jailbait reddit was acceptable — far from it, I pretty roundly denounce the whole idea as creepy and this specific incident as crossing the line in my first post.
There’s nothing wrong with finding teenagers attractive.
There is nothing wrong with finding old bastards who post nude pictures of 14 year olds really, really creepy.
And also putting their evil jerk asses in jail.
Signed,
Parent of two daughters,[rest of comment redacted by DF]
I’m going to hazard a wild guess and assume you might not be acting in good faith here.
Oh, sod you blockquotes.
Bostonian, I understand the frustration, but let’s not go there.
Loki, I fixed your comment; I’m guessing that’s what you meant.
Yes! Thanks, David. I was so peeved after I hit post. Sorry about cluttering the comments with my irritation.
Ok nothing further like that from me. This stuff just makes me worry.
It actually looks worse than what I posted to have it redacted though, so that is mildly amusing to me.
And yeah, to be clear, I also think that posting naked pictures of young people as well as getting into “relationships” with them constitutes as ‘harm’. Basically, it’s only ok if it stays as thoughts, not ok if really any action is taken based on those thoughts.
FTP: You know, I”d be willing to bet that the guy who tried to kidnap me off the street when I was thirteen might have said the same thing: There’s nothing wrong with following a junior high school student as she walks home, stopping at every street she crosses to stare at her. There’s nothing wrong with offering her cigarettes, trying to get her into my car, trying to get her name. There’s nothing wrong with whipping out my willy to show her how awesomely manly I am! Hey, wait, why are there pissed off cops at my door?
I’m willing to bet they’d say the same thing about the grown men who followed me around muttering sexual comments at me when I was 9. I mean, if she has boobs she’s fair game, right?
(I hate these people so much.)
I’m guessing Delta isn’t a NYTimes reader:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/health/23bisexual.html?_r=1&src=tp&smid=fb-share
(whoever wrote that headline… I want to marry them. Yes, male or female – bi women were declared non-unicorns months earlier! http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/01/16/bisexual-women-have-firm-identity/1788.html )
People have yet to comment on the fact that the wimminz are more pedophile than men.
MRAL: That would be because I’ve yet to see credible evidence of your claim. Show me a good, peer reviewed study with good methodology.
MRAL: might our focus on male pedophiles who target young girls be due to the fact that the freaking OP is about exactly that?
Also: citation needed.
And today’s first failed flounce award goes to MRAL.
I’ve given up on scoring MRALs flounces. He’s like a bungee boss – in and out too fast to bother.
Just catching up here.
Maggie, you really are a piece of … work, aren’t you? I don’t read r/jailbait; I found out about this shit in ShitRedditSays. As I’m sure you know, but you couldn’t resist a bit of typically dishonest Maggie-style passive aggressive fuckery?
Seems like the only person here who fell for it was Hengist.
A few other things:
A comment with some links from rutee got held in moderation;here it is if you want to go back and see it.
Some comments from Delta, who does not seem to be a sockpuppet of anyone we know, got held too. It was more of the same sort of crap.
A couple of comments from MRAL got held too, going on about Twilight and female pedos.
“free the paedos” is a sockpuppet of Buttman.
“What about those who swing both ways? AC-DC?”
They haven’t been the same since Bon Scott died.
MRAL, I know you’re not big on evidence, but if you want to talk celebrities… do you not remember the huge number of dudes who waited on the Olsen Twin’s 18th birthday with bated breath? What about Britney Spears?
I don’t really care who’s more of a pretend-better-pedophile, but I don’t really care. It’s all shit.
I’m a driver, I’m a winner
THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE I CAN FEEL IT
The jailbait reddit was already in a gray area of legality, so it was probably just a matter of time for some of them to cross the line and actually do something illegal. Any of them that passed the pictures around can no longer hide behind the first amendment if they get into legal trouble. I consider Reddit itself to partially to blame for enabling such a sick group to form and never moderating it.
In theory I have no problem with people who are sexually attracted to children/teens and 1) know it’s not reciprocated and cannot be consensual and 2) never act on it in any way (including passing around pics, encouraging active pedophiles, etc.)
In the Feministe debate about this idea a few months ago the two main schools of thought seemed to be mine — that such a miserable critter is not immoral, exactly, so much as pitiable — and the school of thought that no such critter exists because people who are sexually attracted to children inevitably offend.* So I dunno; it’s not an easy topic to have debates about with the low amount of data and the high passions.
*Similarly, people are also theoretically free to fantasize about murdering everyone around them if they never actually do it; whether this obsession-without-action is humanly possible I don’t know.
Okay, there is exactly zero chance that that’s not in a porno somewhere, right?
“Oh noes, I need to give you CPR! …to your cock.” BOW CHICKA BOW BOW!
Bagelsan, gay ambulance porn exists and I have some.
Holly; Can I see?
And you would :P
Do the words ‘we need to palpate the region’ appear anywhere in it, Holly?
Bionicmommy makes a good point. That subreddit is easy pickin’s for law enforcement. Which means previous commenters were probably right that this is more of a hurr-hurr-I’s-on-your-intertubes/violatin-ur-taboos paedoparty. Real or pretend perverts, they are some of the dumbest fucks on the internet. They probably won’t do so well in prison.
I’m on my phone (at OccupyBoston preparing for a threatened police action, actually) so I can’t post links, but it’s called “The Paramedics” and it’s not the greatest; there’s only one scene actually on an ambulance.
I just want to know how many dudes (and ladies) now have a Pavlovian reaction to hearing a Latex glove snapped. :D
Oh dear. The active chemical(s) in pepper spray aren’t very water soluble, so wash your eyes with whole milk or something if possible (you want an organic, not aqueous, solvent and fats and oils count.)
Bagelsan: More than a few, judging by my gaming groups reaction to a character pulling on gloves (to clean a door).
Bagelsan – I’m here as a street medic and I have my bottle of Maalox. :)
Yay Holly! You clearly got this one. :D
(I have zero medical training but i did a research project on capsaicin. <–my credentials. ;p)
Also… porn in one hand and medical gear in the other? So prepared! Were you a Girl Scout? :D
I wanted to be a Boy Scout. :(
Evidence: The Twilight women. But are we talking about arresting them? No. The manginas and H cubeds here only care about MALE ephebos.
“Women, I’ve noticed, are more ephebephilic than the average man. ”
Really…I thought the trope was younger women like older men because they can take care of them/are more manly/have money etc. And aren’t MRAs the ones who consider age of consent laws misandry? don’t most MRAs and PUAs consider women over 25 old hags? And as I keep seeing in comments all over the internet, don’t men have this natural biological instinct to mate with younger women because they’re more fertile? Throughout history, was it not underage girls who were married off to adult men?
You’ll also notice that there is a Jailbait thread with adult men asking for pics of teenage girls, not adult women asking for pics of teenage guys.
“Feminists = pwned.”
Whatever helps you sleep at night MRAL
I’m not sure if anyone else has posted this, but please report this here. It’s the reporting form for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and is probably the best place to report it to multiple law enforcement agencies at once.
https://secure.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/CybertipServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US
I know it’s a terrible form, but most of the information isn’t required. I’m not sure if you can add the screen shot, but you could link to it.
MRAL, I don’t know about everyone here, but the only dudes I’m suggesting should be arrested or at least investigated here are those who are distributing or requesting nude pictures of a 14-year-old girl that (aside from being child porn) are also being posted without her consent. If women were distributing or requesting nude pics of a 14-year-old boy, I’d suggest that they should be arrested or investigated too.
David, you’re full of sh*t. Reading your post demonstrates that you go to jailbait. I think the denial is actually more creepy than the accusation.
MRAL: If you’re talking about the movie, all the actors are over 18. The books… eh, Edward is something like 108 and the werewolf is, okay, underage. But that’s books. I’ve yet to hear of an adult Twilight fan taking up with an underage boy because he looks like Edward or what’s his face.
“Evidence: The Twilight women. But are we talking about arresting them? No. The manginas and H cubeds here only care about MALE ephebos.”
Last I checked, Robert Pattinson was 25, so he’s a legal adult. 40-year-old women fangirling about him is… interesting, but it’s not illegal.
Now, if you meant the Twilight fans who are themselves >18 and are passing around nekkid pics of a 25 year old man, that’s probably a whole ‘nother convo.
magdelyn: Seriously, the epidemic of reality substitution is getting out of hand. Does the CDC deal with these outbreaks?