@Rutee Katreya
“This is pretty empty trolling from the fake engineer who sucks at math.”

Well I suck at everything, so da crew tells me. And I am up against the top minds ever. Just look at your comments! How can I compete with…….?

I wonder who can turn on the tears and weep hysterically at the drop of a hat?

I don’t know Mr Slave, an MRA?

NWOslave sez:

Yaay, citation needed. I gave ya one for a woman gunning down her husband. Everyone says to walk away from violence. Well, she had 17 years to walk.

Except the context was violence from strangers. Domestic violence is notoriously difficult for people, male or female, to see their way out of without help.

My citation was worthless

It really was. You talked about a so-called battered woman defense like it was a law. Apparently you understand just about nothing of what you read, except when it’s in Cyrillic. What’s rich is that you complain about the gendered language of the article and then complain about VAWA, which doesn’t use gendered language except in the title.

@Holly Pervocracy
“NWO, if you said this shit to my face, I wouldn’t hit you.
I can’t be honest here and pretend I wouldn’t think about it, but I wouldn’t lay a finger on you.
Can you say the same to me?”

No, I’d laugh in your face. Violence against women act is gender neutral? Title IX is gender neutral? Primary aggressor law is gender neutral? On and on it goes. How couldn’t anyone laugh?

Hey, NWO actually said he wouldn’t hit someone for no reason!

I am so proud.

I don’t really give a shit if you laugh (you have kind of a track record of laughing at anything involving knowledge, ho ho, people learning things they didn’t know before, haw haw those suckers), but I’m honestly happy that you said something halfway decent.

Um… why exactly would Wikipedia (and, you know, Russian people) lie about the Cyrillic alphabet?

If you want to say they’re unreliable about the JFK assassination or the moon landing or whatever, that is your right as a person who thinks he’s so damn smart he can get the same information as everyone else (er, or much less) and come to radically different conclusions. But why do the Rothchilds need the sheeple to be blinkered about alphabets?

Please tell me the root alphabet for Cyrillic. Use your wiki-smarts. Just copy and paste it.

That would be Greek. “Cyrillic is derived from the Ancient Greek uncial script, augmented by ligatures and consonants from the older Glagolitic alphabet for sounds not found in Ancient Greek.” Here’s what wiki says about the Spanish alphabet:

The Spanish language is written using the Spanish alphabet, which is the Latin alphabet with one additional letter, eñe (‹ñ›), for a total of 27 letters.

Wiki smarts: being curious and learning about things using the Internet. A trait that brings great shame to those who exhibit it.

@Holly Pervocracy
“Um… why exactly would Wikipedia (and, you know, Russian people) lie about the Cyrillic alphabet?

If you want to say they’re unreliable about the JFK assassination or the moon landing or whatever, that is your right as a person who thinks he’s so damn smart he can get the same information as everyone else (er, or much less) and come to radically different conclusions. But why do the Rothchilds need the sheeple to be blinkered about alphabets”

Than go anywhere and give me the root alphabet of Cryllic. I find this infathomable that none of you can admit you’re wrong. Something so simple as the root of a language. It doesn’t even have anything to do with feminism. That’s how incorrect the stance of feminism is. None of you can admit error in anything, even if it’s non-related and irrelevant.

But do you liek my poem Owly

NWOslave sez:

None of you can admit error in anything, even if it’s non-related and irrelevant.

So do you admit you’re wrong about the “battered woman defense” being a law?

@Holly Pervocracy
“There’s really nothing more elementally wrong than initiating violence against a nonviolent person, and if you’d do that, anything else you say about right and wrong really doesn’t matter. You either don’t know or don’t care.”

Yelling, screaming and so on is not being non-violent. In fact VAWA describes these actions as DV. Suddenly now it’s OK. Dave bans people for harsh language, why? They’ve committed no actual violence.

Is yelling, screaming and so on violence or not?

I’ve answered more than enough questions Holly, now it’s your turn.

Yelling, screaming and so on is not being non-violent. In fact VAWA describes these actions as DV. Suddenly now it’s OK. Dave bans people for harsh language, why? They’ve committed no actual violence.

Is yelling, screaming and so on violence or not?

I’m pretty sure website bans have nothing to do with “violence.” (Physical violence on websites being rather rare and all that.) Mostly they have to do with his tolerance for complete bullshit. And frankly, your brand of complete bullshit would get anyone else banned but with you it’s kind of funny how stubborn and stupid you are.

Yelling at someone can be emotional abuse (although this is more “demeaning and intimidating someone emotionally bonded to you” yelling, not “got all up in my face” yelling–it’s not any time anyone says something you don’t like), but it’s not violence.

I’ve answered more than enough questions Holly, now it’s your turn.

I’ll never get why you wank off to the question game. Seems to me when you’re answering questions you’re speaking your point of view, and asking them is creating an opening for mine.

But if you were good at reasoning we would not be speaking here today.

Also, NWO, this is a question I want to ask every MRA: why don’t you want to be the better man?

Say (this isn’t true, but say) that feminists really were drooling hellmonsters. Say we really did want to beat men and take all their money and give them flouride.

Wouldn’t you want to be better than that? Wouldn’t you want to demonstrate superiority, instead of being perfectly content to merely be the gender opposite of an evil (fictional) movement? It seems like the gender opposite of evil is evil.

Don’t you have any aspirations to be not evil?

@Holly Pervocracy

I’ve never hit a woman, but if a woman did, “get all up in my face, I just might.” What am I gonna call the cops? That only works for women. If a man yells at a woman she calls the cops, (state violence) What else could you call it? When a woman yells at a man he might use individual violence, (his own). Either way, it’s violence. Someone used violence to stop the verbal violence. Women use the State, men don’t have that option.
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@CassandraSays
” What, did the lizard people give it to the Rothchilds as a weapon to use against men or something?”

Excellent, we’ve moved onto lizards. I find this so intellectually stimulating!

Okay, just now Moewicus pointed out that the Cyrillic alphabet is derived from the Greek. This is not the first someone has done this. I’m pretty sure it’s not even the second time. Yet NWOslave keeps asking people to tell him where Cyrillic came from. No disagreement, no citing sources of his own that might be contradictory, just ignores it and asks again. Every single time.

Quick thing, while it is not academically viable, Wikipedia is a better source of information then the holocaust denier sites and the Islamic paranoia forums Slavey slums in.

“Than go anywhere and give me the root alphabet of Cryllic. I find this infathomable that none of you can admit you’re wrong. Something so simple as the root of a language. It doesn’t even have anything to do with feminism. That’s how incorrect the stance of feminism is. None of you can admit error in anything, even if it’s non-related and irrelevant.”

Is he kidding me? I know he is are famous for his sissy “Tough day at fake job guys, need my beauty rest” flounce but after he posted the entire “find me the root alphabet” nonsense last time I think a number of people answered him and he could have at least checked his bullshit.

The root alphabet doesn’t have anything to do with stupidly thinking two separate languages based of divergent Greek and Latin linguistic and written systems are identical, Jesus what’s next? Is he going to say Hindi and Celtic are the same language because the Indo-European language tree?

*is famous*, god it has been a long week.

I wish I were a better man. :)

“But I violently hate the correct unarmed civilians” is not how being a better man works.

Reading the Reddit thread, it sounds like the original poster slapped the woman more out of confusion over her weird behavior than anything else (and honestly, I don’t know what I’d do if someone started yanking buttons off my shirt), and is genuinely concerned about whether it was wrong. I also get the impression that everyone involved may have been drinking just a leeettle too much. It’s in the comments that things get vile. But that’s what happens on any unmoderated forum; it gets clogged with dumb kids posting obnoxious crap just for the hell of it, and then the whole place is ruined.

NWOslave sez:

I do indeed admit when I’m wrong, apparently it “isn’t” a law.

Great. Now, do you acknowledge that your accusations of hypocrisy by feminists on the basis that male submission good/female submission bad is comically wrong when you’re talking at least one woman that is both vocally feminist and sexually submissive?

And why does it take so much to get you to acknowledge when you’re wrong rather than focus on the tiny bit of someone’s comment that’s about Cyrillic?

But doesn’t that really amount to the same thing, even if it isn’t law? A defense used by women to justify acts of violence, even murder? And the courts, as I’ve provided a very recent link, abide by this non-law defense. In the end, violence by women is condoned by the State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_woman_defense#Gender_of_the_victim

“Gender is also irrelevant. In AG’s Reference (No.24 of 2003) (2003) EWCA Crime 2451, the defendant, who had a low IQ, suffered prolonged taunting from his wife as to his illiteracy and impotency. During an argument, he stabbed her (and his son) and then wounded himself with a knife purchased during a break in the argument to harm himself rather than others. Sentences of three and a half years for each offence to be served concurrently were imposed, the sentencing judge referring to the defendant as having been worn down over months and eventually broken by the cruel taunting of his wife and being forbidden from seeing his children.”

ZOMG the State condones violence by men! BTW Sheehan could also get between three and six years for the guilty verdict on illegal possession of a firearm or whatever it was.

Also, do you lieks my poem yes [ ] no [ ]

I didn’t bring it up.

You said that… was it Spanish and Russian? Anyway, that a romance language and Russian have the same alphabet. You are a dumbfuck among dumbfucks.

@Mr. Kobold
“I see the starry eyed beginnings of a sovereign citizen police killing (just kidding, more like more impotent bitching on the internet).”

I’m working on becoming sovereign. A small step by denying my funding of the Federal Reserve.

A small step by denying my funding of the Federal Reserve.

We’ll miss your postings here. Do remember to thank the State for your free room and board.

“I’m working on becoming sovereign. A small step by denying my funding of the Federal Reserve.”

I actually laughed out loud at that. Good luck spouting that line when you get pulled over without a license. Honestly you probably are on Medicaid or something but are to stupid to know it.

Quick question, how are you are jet-setting milk machine technician if you don’t have identification at the airport?

NWO, you need to stop pretending you’re against state violence. You just want to decide who it’s against.

I’ll wait with bated breath for you to show anything but cheering approval when cops beat or sexually assault women.

Is it time again? Oh, all right, but I can’t be doing this all the time…

The Book of Learnin’
Indispensable Facts About the Universe from NWO
New and Revised Edition

Science

Evolution is impossible, because otherwise we’d be able to watch dogs evolve into super-dogs. Unless anyone can produce evidence of dogs with super-powers, evolution is a myth.

The theory of evolution claims that life came from rocks. It also states that evolution doesn’t occur anymore because rocks are no longer in make-life mode.

The theory of evolution is the same as the Big Bang theory, which is also impossible.

Female animals cannot feed themselves and rely on males to support them. Even in cases where this seems untrue, the males are still tougher. For example, female lions do all the hunting in the pride, but if they come across a really tough enemy, like a hyena, they run and get the male lion to fight for them.

Mathematics

Feminists claim that one in four women is raped in college. But since college lasts for four years, you have to multiply that by four. Therefore, feminists are really saying that 100% of women are raped in college, which is obviously untrue, not to mention proof that women are bad at math.

There are only three percentages in statistics: 0%, 99%, and 100%. In statistical analysis, all numbers should be rounded to one of these three. COROLLARY: If people notice this and start suggesting that you’re just making your statistics up, it is mathematically acceptable to add some other really high numbers at random.

Medicine

Children are lined up and injected with a dangerous chemical called flouride to make them stupid.

Mammmograms cause breast cancer. Doctors advise women to get mammograms at least once a week until they develop cancer from it.

Many hospitals are open only to women and children. They’re not maternity/pediatric hospitals, just regular hospitals run by people who refuse to treat men for no reason.

Education

Reading is not taught in American public schools.

Public schools offer two kinds of math: traditional arithmetic and New Math. Children are allowed to choose which one to learn.

Before feminism, children were not required to do homework or pay attention in class.

How-to courses on homosexuality are taught in public schools. This is the only way people become gay.

Men are not permitted to work as teachers in the U.S.

University of California schools have gotten rid of all their engineering and computer science departments and replaced them with women’s studies and gender studies. The University of Cincinnati has cut its computer science department for the same reason.

Thanks to the all-pervasive power of Title IX (see Law), all but two colleges in the U.S. are assembling Sex Police Forces made up of female students and faculty, dedicated solely to falsely accusing male students of rape and throwing them in prison. There are plans to extend this program to grade schools.

History

Ancient Greece, Rome, Persia, and China under the Ming Dynasty were extremely progressive, feminist societies. That’s why they collapsed.

Before modern feminism, rape was a rare occurrence and almost unheard-of.

Lynchings in the American South consisted of women accusing men of rape because they were man-hating feminists. Race had nothing to do with it; it was easy for a black woman to get a white man lynched. In cases where the man was lynched on an accusation from another man, the lynchings were justified.

The Russian Communists massacred Christians for their religion and invented feminism.

In 1919, women took control of all levels of government and law enforcement. Since then, every law in the U.S. has been written and enacted by women. There have been no male politicians, judges, or police officers for over 90 years.

The CIA imported feminism from the Soviet Union by publishing Ms. magazine (and another publication called Miss Mag) and channeling funds to a woman named Gloria Steinen.

The first war in history was the U.S. invasion of Libya, spearheaded by Hillary Clinton as a plot to kill men.

Linguistics

The word “suffrage” is derived from the verb “to suffer,” because voting is hard.

Spanish and Russian use the same alphabet. The Russians just have a funny kind of handwriting called cryillic script.

Theater

The classical Greek play The Bacchae is a celebration of the roving lesbian gang that murdered the musician Orpheus. It is based on a true story.

The musical Chicago is a polemic about how men should be shot to death. It was written by a female college student last year.

Fashion

Most girls and women over the age of twelve wear transparent shirts and micro-miniskirts at all times. Although their skirts are so short their genitals hang out, they do not wear underwear.

Women only dress to attract men—all men. If a woman leaves the house in clothes, it’s a signal that she wants to have sex with any man she meets. Men, on the other hand, never dress to look attractive.

Law

All U.S. law, from the Constitution down, has been supplanted by the extremely powerful Title IX, a law requiring that all educational, government, and private institutions be 100% female.

If the names on contracts are in all caps, those people are legally corporations. If they’re in mixed case, the contract is invalid.

Requiring people to take a vision test to get a driver’s license is an atrocity on the level of the Holocaust, Pol Pot’s genocide, and the Communist massacre of Christians (see History).

The United States is a communist dictatorship. If it were a free country, people wouldn’t have to pay taxes or get licenses to drive.

Crime

False reporting of rape is the most serious and widespread crime in the U.S. The most common reasons for a woman to make up a rape accusation are cheating, revenge, excuse for missed homework, lateness, work absence, and attention-getting.

Men are falsely accused of rape and thrown into prison without trial on a daily basis. Available statistics say otherwise because the true numbers are kept under wraps by the CIA.

If an accused person is found not guilty of a crime, it should be assumed that the accuser was lying, and the accuser should receive the maximum sentence possible for the crime in question.

Economics

All financial crises are caused by the Federal Reserve, which is run by the Rothchild family. Before them, economies never fluctuated.

All the real-estate speculators who caused the housing bubble were women.

Maternity/paternity leave is the single biggest drain on the economy. If companies got rid of parental leave, it would create enough wealth that all women would be able to quit their jobs and be full-time mothers, like they’re supposed to.

There are no poor women. Whenever a woman needs anything, she sits in the middle of the street and cries, and passerby throw food and money at her for free.

Women control 80% of the world’s wealth, thanks to all the crying.

Business

Because of Title IX (see Law), all businesses with government contracts are required to hire only women to meet gender quotas.

It’s common for large corporations to call job applicants to tell them why they weren’t hired and the identity of the person hired in their place.

Government

Everyone takes orders from the U.N. and the Jews.

Without government, homosexuality would not exist.

Foreign Relations

All wars are caused by women acting as “cheerleaders” for both sides at once, goading otherwise peaceful men to fight. These women have no political goals or opinions; they just like watching men die.

Russia is the “deathplace capital of the world” for men because feminism was invented there (see Feminism). It is the most feminist country on earth.

All taxes in Scandinavian countries go toward women’s causes. Scandinavian grade schools have a holiday where girls are given cookies and ice cream, while boys are given stale matzo. Men in Scandinavian countries are imprisoned for farting.

Marriage and Family

Somewhere in the U.S. is a place called The Ghetto, where between 70% and 99% of households consist of unemployed single mothers living entirely off welfare. Also, everyone in The Ghetto is black. Sociologists are still struggling to determine why women in The Ghetto don’t support themselves as other women do, by sitting in the street and crying until people throw stuff at them (see Economics).

99% of feminist marriages end in divorce.

The vast majority of violent rapists come from female-led households, because the feminist indoctrination boys receive in such households makes them so angry they have to go out and rape people to let off steam.

Religion

Judaism is the most aggressively evangelical religion on earth. Less than 5% of Jews are ethnically Jewish, while the rest are recruited from the tireless Jewish recruitment efforts.

Catholics worship the Virgin Mary.

In the story of Jesus saving the adulteress from stoning, the moral is that sinners deserve to be stoned. Especially the gays.

Pedophilia

All child molesters are either women or gay men. Straight men never molest girls.

Prepubescent girls who wear swimsuits to the beach desperately want to have sex with middle-aged milking-machine technicians.

Feminism

Feminism is a highly organized international movement created in the Soviet Union and currently funded by the United Nations.

Predictions of the Future

Someday a straight white man will beat up a lesbian for molesting a five-year-old. Everyone in the world will sympathize with the lesbian and immediately legalize child molestation.

In 100 years, white people will have gone extinct because white women didn’t reproduce enough. Western culture will be wiped from the face of the earth. Archeologists discovering the remains of Western culture will laugh at us for letting women have rights.

NWO: I’m a sociology major and a psychology minor, thank you for asking.

Holly: I laughed at physical violence on the Internet. :) Well played, ma’am, well played.

@Holly Pervocracy

Ok Holly, seriously, no lizards no bullshit. If you want me to take you seriously you need to act it. OK?

Heres the two questions.

#1) A man and woman are verbally fighting, who starts it is irrelevant, but the man hits the woman. This is physical violence, correct?

#2) A man and woman are verbally fighting, again, who starts it is irrelevant, but this time the woman calls the cops, cries when they arrive, the whole bit and the man is hauled off and given the whole nine yards. Do you consider this phsysical violence as well?

So when did “da crew” replace “Big Daddy” as NWO’s latest nonsensical feminist conspiracy group thing or whatever the hell he’s always on about?

#1) A man and woman are verbally fighting, who starts it is irrelevant, but the man hits the woman. This is physical violence, correct?

Yes. (It would be if the woman hit the man, as well.)

#2) A man and woman are verbally fighting, again, who starts it is irrelevant, but this time the woman calls the cops, cries when they arrive, the whole bit and the man is hauled off and given the whole nine yards. Do you consider this phsysical violence as well?

No. That’s law enforcement. If they’re doing their job correctly–and I freely admit lots of cops don’t–the man shouldn’t be physically harmed unless he physically resists. But placing someone in police custody is not, in itself, an act of violence.

Holly, I can’t say I know how it works for Sovereign Lunatics, but to Smugertarians, the police doing ANYTHING is violence. So expect some weird gotchas, I guess, Sovereign Lunatics seem to overlap heavily with smugertarianism.

Shaenon, I love your sheer dedication to this silliness XD

Few activities are more repellent than domestic violence or spousal abuse of ANY sort–female on male violence is about as common, and often as dangerous, as the FAR more frequently cited male on female, but I still think that an “ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”!

What does the wife (or girlfriend) DO to make an otherwise quiet, normal, loving mate turn into a raging lunatic? Is there anything she does, in this age of, and environment favoring, confrontation and rivalry, to repeatedly bring out the worst of him? Is criminalizing DV always the best response? Is sending her–along with his children–to a shelter, facilitating the breakdown of what would otherwise be a troubled, but perhaps salvagable relationship, always the right answer?

I doubt it! There are possibilities that the man can learn to be the authority in the household without cruelty and viciousness, and that the woman could stop bringing out the worst in him by focusing on preventing conflicts and harmonizing resolution of differences rather than turning everything into a power struggle. Of course, if more women learned to do this, and do this well, yielding to the man and male authority on all unimportant issues, especially as they learned to be a man’s “better half” or “nearest and dearest” before their marriage, or their permanent household is set up, the resultant harmony and love means that you feminists would all have absolutely nothing to do, except sit around bitching about men, and the relationships that YOUALL never had, and finding fault with us, when you weren’t twiddling your thumbs, wearing your trousers, and wearing your usual frowns looking (and sounding) foolish!

Is there a symbiotic relationship between ‘domestic violence” and feminism? I don’t know, but it would be interesting to further explore this little tidbit, wouldn’t it? If more women knew how to properly submit to their men, and more men knew how to properly and humanely exercise their authority, you would all be obsolete!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

NWO: I had just that done (a mere phone call, and then I was arrested). It’s called law enforcement. It wasn’t “violent”. It was unpleasant. It was a pain in the ass to get cleared up. I didn’t get my rifles back for something like six months, but it wasn’t violence.

Speaking as someone who was paid to be violent, violence involves the use of physical force to harm/injure another person.

Cops have been known to be violent (and often without cause), but them doing their jobs, no matter how much you may disagree with the reason, isn’t violence. It’s the anti-violence, because it’s (as much as can be managed) impartial. They have no dog in the fight.