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“Hit her back, she gets to vote.” More wisdom from Reddit.

What the fuck is wrong with Reddit these days? Today, the denizens of AskReddit are debating the topic: Is it wrong to hit a woman? You can probably figure out what the consensus is. (Hint: Two letter word, starts with N.) What’s especially striking is how, well, gleeful the discussion is. Redditor after Redditor weighs in with the exact same opinion on the subject; others reply with jokey assent; everybody gets upvotes, sometimes hundreds of them. This exchange captures some of the flavor of the, er, “discussion” there:

From AskReddit.

These aren’t people arguing dispassionately that in the interest of equality we should treat hitting women the same as hitting men, and that ideally no one should be hitting anyone at all. These are guys (mostly) using the topic as an excuse to complain about “bitches” and their rights.

Others, meanwhile, decided to use the topic as masturbation fantasy fodder, suggesting  that the original poster had missed his chance for some hot sex with the woman he slapped. As toothsayer put it:

The single slap is disrespectful, shows that you are pissy bitch, and will not get you laid. However, catching up to her as she is walking away, scooping her up, bending her over the knee and repeatedly spanking that ass would have led to some seriously hard core sex.

47 upvotes for that hilarious suggestion.

Perhaps all of the commenters should simply up and move to Topeka, Kansas, where the city council is considering decriminalizing domestic violence in order to save a few bucks. Seriously.

Note: Once again, I have the fine folks (no sarcasm here; they actually are fine) at ShitRedditSays for pointing this discussion out to me. Here’s the SRS discussion of the whole stinky mess.

I pledge: my next post will have nothing to do with Reddit.

 

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KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

Polliwog: Well played.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

If you’re reading, NWO, this one is just for you.

http://books.adultfanfiction.net/story.php?no=544176437

cynickal
cynickal
8 years ago

I need to bookmark Polliwog’s link.

VoiP
VoiP
8 years ago

That’s the consequence of teaching women to read: Nobody appreciates the Gor books anymore.

I collect them ironically.

Molly Ren
8 years ago

“‘That’s the consequence of teaching women to read: Nobody appreciates the Gor books anymore.’

“I collect them ironically.”

They make great wank material after you stick them in Regender, tho! Do you know how little porn there is for female doms in this country? 😛

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

Do you know how little porn there is for female doms in this country?

As little as there is for female subs who want to hear about Doms who actually nurture and care for their subs, rather than being power-tripping toy-breaking megalomaniacs who shouldn’t be allowed to own a hamster much less a human?

/rant

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

“As little as there is for female subs who want to hear about Doms who actually nurture and care for their subs, rather than being power-tripping toy-breaking megalomaniacs who shouldn’t be allowed to own a hamster much less a human?”

Are we counting David’s rants about pettables as (poorly written, kind of creepy) porn?

Molly Ren
8 years ago

“As little as there is for female subs who want to hear about Doms who actually nurture and care for their subs, rather than being power-tripping toy-breaking megalomaniacs who shouldn’t be allowed to own a hamster much less a human?”

Yeah, that too.

(I don’t actually recommend using Gor books as a model for real-life relationships. Whatever turns you on is okay as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody IRL, all that. I still think it was amazing when someone put several sections through Regender on here tho. :P)

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

As little as there is for female subs who want to hear about Doms who actually nurture and care for their subs, rather than being power-tripping toy-breaking megalomaniacs who shouldn’t be allowed to own a hamster much less a human?

/rant

Seriously. This is why I gave up and just started writing my own.

Molly Ren
8 years ago

“Seriously. This is why I gave up and just started writing my own.”

Despite the deeply annoying cover art, there are actually a few good ones in the He’s on Top story collection.

Actually… does this call for a new forum thread? 😀

cynickal
cynickal
8 years ago

I don’t actually recommend using Gor books as a model for real-life relationships.

Looks like I’ll need to rethink my career advancement plan.
Poop, and I just have the sharpened stakes installed on my lawn…

VoiP
VoiP
8 years ago

As little as there is for female subs who want to hear about Doms who actually nurture and care for their subs…

Mm, that’d be nice. Can you recommend anything about military-like structures of allegiance rather than, um, people who hit people?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Oops. Apologies to our lovely host for making him wonder why we all suddenly thought he’d lost his marbles.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
8 years ago

DKM said,

Okay, I humbly stand corrected. You can teach dogs to guide the blind, you can teach cats to play a credible game of table tennis, so what is so unusual about teaching women to read and write?

I still wish that they would use it to better advantage, for example, cookbooks…

Is DKM an MRA or is he a cartoon villian that looks like Bruce Campbell

VoiP
VoiP
8 years ago

Please do not refer to Mr.DK Meller by his first name!

Others through no fault of our own have the same first name, and it is very disconcerting.

Is it all right if I call him DKM and call you Futrelle? What do you prefer?

Pecunium
8 years ago

Meller bleated: <iI also believe that the woman has a right to terminate a relationship with a man unilaterally if she is, or even believes herself (or their children) to be endangered

I find this hard to believe, perhaps because of this: There is nothing bizarre, insane, or paranoid in doubting the word of pathological liars, people who lie about EVERYTHING, and then when caught, don’t retract but cover up with more lies,and more lies after that.

and

Does Gor provide perfect answers? Probablynot, which With other weasel words allows that maybe Gor does have all the answers, and your desire to see women who don’t agree with you prevented from not agreeing/submitting, even if you have to kill them to do it…

I don’t believe you when you say you don’t want slaves, and I don’t believe you when you say women have the right to leave.

I can see, based on the reactions you get, why you dislike literate women.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

I can see, based on the reactions you get, why you dislike literate women.

Even if he found a totally illiterate woman to marry she’d probably be drawing scathing pictograms about him within a week. :p

Hershele Ostropoler
8 years ago

I was in a band called “Scathing Pictograms”

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
8 years ago

I only dislike literate women when they are bred in the bone and dyed in the wool SHRIKES! Literacy in women can be a nice quality, it can enable them to teach children to read, it can enable them to use household guides and cookbooks effectively, it can even inspire them to be better wives (both in and out of the bedroom, if you know what I mean). Literacy in a woman can make her a better woman, but not if it makes her a vehicle for the spread of feminism and man-hating!

Women who are literate, even on an advanced level, can still be feminine and alluring, carrying on a clever, humorous conversation, and even at times displaying an entertaining wit, which ignorant women wouldn’t –and probably couldn’t–show.

Women, however, if they abuse literacy to attack men, the family, and the natural order of things, must change and pursue different paths.

KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

DKM: You seem to be mixing up two distinct concepts: What you want in a woman and what a woman’s place in the world should be. What you want in a woman is not my bag, but as long as you are both into it, then fine. BUT you have no right to extend your idea of a perfect furry sub over into the lives of others! You don’t get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live our lives, and you are sure as fuck not the be all and end all arbiter of what women should be.

Davdi K. Meller
Davdi K. Meller
8 years ago

KathleenB–

I am not trying to tell anyone how to live their lives, but I have every right to object if feminists try to corrupt and distort feminine nature to your own warped expectations. Feminists do everything to masculinize women, try to get them to dress like men, to walk like men, to pursue mens’ careers and professions (I believe that there is even an organization of your kind of “women” whose members are dedicated to what they call “non-traditional careers” for women, e.g. carpentry, plumbing, pipefitting, HVAC, and other skilled manual trades that have been 99% male and there is certainly no shortage of men who would and could do that work! You infest colleges and universities, not to teach women how to be better wives and mothers, or even to be more engaging hostesses and entertainers with their improved literacy, but instead to hate men, blame us for your shortcomings, humilitate us at every chance you get, and otherwise be DISGUSTING!

Maybe I don’t have a right to tell you women(?) how to live your lives, but you sure as hell don’t have the right to tell other women how to live their lives either, and for the same reason! Women would be (for the most part) soft, lovely, affectionate, playful, tranquil, and alluring if it were not for you feminists brainwashing them that every time they want to please a man, they were “sleeping with the enemy”! You want to show how independent and “strong” you are, fine. You can squall “I am woman, hear me roar” till the cows come home, for all I could care less. But do it in your own d*****d hives, and leave better women alone!

VoiP
VoiP
8 years ago

Literacy in a woman can make her a better woman, but not if it makes her a vehicle for the spread of feminism and man-hating!

You can’t control that though. You can’t just turn on thinking in one are of your life and turn it off everywhere else. The Enlightenment can’t be bargained with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until ignorance is dead.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Meller: If she reads, she will become, to you, a shrike; for she will read things, and question things and wonder at why things are the way they are; or if they should be as they are.

And that you cannot abide. That would imply her having a will of her own. She might wonder at being your slave.

And that you cannot endure.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Presented without further comment.

I am not trying to tell anyone how to live their lives… You want to show how independent and “strong” you are, fine. You can squall “I am woman, hear me roar” till the cows come home, for all I could care less. But do it in your own d*****d hives, and leave better women alone!

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
8 years ago

Women would be (for the most part) soft, lovely, affectionate, playful, tranquil, and alluring

I’d tell you to get a pet, but I’m also against animal cruelty.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
8 years ago

Pecunium, what planet are you from??

Even if I did want a woman as a “slave” or a “pet” ,the way you–and some of your echo chamber–on manboobz keep chattering on about, the fact remains that whipping, beating, confining, or otherwise terrorizing her would NOT produce worthwhile results!

I am no expert in psychology, least of all not the psychology of women–if there is such a thing(you aren’t either)–but even I know that to elicit responses that I want from her, the responses characterised by e.g. affection, charm, allure, compliance, tranquillity, and happiness, especially happiness at my being around her, that my acting in a brutal, intimidating or sadistic manner would be utterly counterproductive and useless. A man gets much more joy from a woman purring and cooing with pleasure than shrieking in terror or agony!

It is feminists who are always demanding a “power struggle”, always demanding their deranged version of ‘equality”, always seeking opportunities to promote themselves, at your risk and expense. You take them far too seriously! When I hear of a feminist being exposed to her so-called “spousal abuse’ or “domestic violence”, I am not exactly happy, but I, along with everyone else, knows that she probably got what she deserved in the end! That doesn’t say ANYTHING about normal women, however!

The kind of women whom I love would be the exact opposite of the feminists described above! There would be no need to, and I wouldn’t want to be, cruel or vicious to them, because they would return love for love! Those are real “free and liberated women”. They are free to BE women, physically, emotionally, sexually, spiritually and every other way.

I think that John Norman, and Gor sagas, were trying to make that point and it is a point well taken! Even on Gor, slavegirls were often cherished, loved, and enjoyed being the number one focus in the “master’s” life! Did the so-called ‘free companions’ ever enjoy comparable regard by their mates; their “dignity” as “free women”, notwithstanding? Asking that question answers it!

Maybe the equality these feminists brainwash themselves about ad nauseum isn’t all that it is supposed to be, especially not for women?

Food for thought.

Moewicus
Moewicus
8 years ago

When I hear of a feminist being exposed to her so-called “spousal abuse’ or “domestic violence”, I am not exactly happy, but I, along with everyone else, knows that she probably got what she deserved in the end!

This pretty much says it all about Meller.

Those are real “free and liberated women”. They are free to BE women, physically, emotionally, sexually, spiritually and every other way.

For Meller, “freedom” is apparently the freedom to fit within his archetype of you.

I think that John Norman, and Gor sagas, were trying to make that point and it is a point well taken! Even on Gor, slavegirls were often cherished, loved, and enjoyed being the number one focus in the “master’s” life! Did the so-called ‘free companions’ ever enjoy comparable regard by their mates; their “dignity” as “free women”, notwithstanding? Asking that question answers it!

There would be no need to, and I wouldn’t want to be, cruel or vicious to them, because they would return love for love!

Slavish subservience = love
Equality = not so much

But rest assured, Meller doesn’t want a slave! He wants a woman who loves being a slave. And if she goes around insisting on equality with her spouse and gets abused by her spouse well, hey, she got what she deserved.

Molly Ren
8 years ago

“A man gets much more joy from a woman purring and cooing with pleasure than shrieking in terror or agony!”

… uh, do any women here actually purr or coo? I haven’t been with a lot of girls, but I didn’t think this was the usual response to *anything* during sex.

Also, DKM seems to have actually read the Gor novels! o.o Good guess, Pecunium!

KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

DKM: Repeat after me: What floats my boat doesn’t float everyone’s boat. The way I like women isn’t how everyone likes women. The way I want to live isn’t how everyone else should live. If women don’t want to be perfect loving subs, there is on way on God’s green earth I can require them to do so.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

So Meller, since this mythical woman would be human-is she allowed to have opposing opinions on anything or should she just be muted because you are always right even when you are wrong?

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

I am no expert in psychology, least of all not the psychology of women…

No shit. You think you needed to tell us that? Trust me, we picked up on it.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Here’s some of that Gorean Wisdom on how to treat women:

I have wondered upon occasion why brands are used on Gorean slaves. Surely, Goreans have at their disposal means for indelibly but painlessly marking the human body. My conjecture, confirmed to some extent by the speculations of the Older Tarl, who had taught me the craft of arms in Ko-ro-ba years ago, is that the brand is used primarily, oddly enough, because of its reputed psychological effect. In theory, if not in practice, when the girl finds herself branded like an animal, finds her fair skin marked by the iron of a master, she cannot fail, somehow, in the deepest levels of her thought, to regard herself as something which is owned, as mere property, as something belonging to the brute who has put the burning iron into her thigh. Most simply, the brand is supposed to convince the girl that she is truly owned; it is supposed to make her feel owned. When the iron is pulled away and she knows the pain and degradation and smells the odor of her burned flesh, she is supposed to tell herself, understanding its full and terrible import, I AM HIS. Actually, I suppose the effect depends greatly on the girl. In many girls, I would suppose the brand has little effect besides contributing to their shame, their misery and humiliation. With other girls it might well increase their intractability, their hostility.


The Goreans have a saying, “There are only two kinds of women, slaves, and slaves.”

As I have earlier indicated the slave girl is normally transported in total ignorance of her destination. Keeping a girl in ignorance is commonly thought useful in her control and management. Too, it helps her keep clearly in mind that she is a slave. Curiosity is not becoming in a Kajira is a common Gorean saying. The girl learns quickly that it is not her business to meddle in the affairs of her master but, rather, to be beautiful, and serve him, abjectly and totally

What happens when a woman does something she shouldn’t?

“Who are you? What do you want?” I begged. “Curiosity,” he said, ” is not becoming in a Kajira.” I stared at him. “You might be beaten for it,” he said.

Then again, there is this: Excellent slaves are seldom beaten, for there is little, if any, reason to do so. To be sure, such a girl, particularly a love slave, occasionally desires to feel the stroke of the lash, wanting to feel pain at the hands of a beloved master, wanting to be whipped by him because she loves him, in this way symbolizing to herself her relationship to him, that of slave to master, her acceptance of that relationship, and her rejoicing in it.

Of course we have to recall that, Woman is the natural love prey of man. She is natural quarry. She is complete only when caught, only when brought to the joy of her capture and conquest

The “joy of her capture and conquest”, which she spices up by getting herself whipped every so often.

Meller thinks this is a good way to live.

I wonder why he can’t find a “good” woman, it being so natural, and all.

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