“Feminism was born out of a PR campaign to get women to smoke cigarettes” and other fun “facts” from Reddit
Typical feminists, according to Reddit
A redditor called fxexular has put together an amazing compilation of fun “facts” about feminism from assorted Redditors. It’s a bit like reading the descriptions of an elephant offered by six blind men who are also drunk misogynist assholes. Among my favorites:
feminism, at best, focuses on relatively trivial female issues instead of grotesque male issues and at worst is pure man hate.
feminism. Where the most privileged people in society can whine about their “oppression of opulence.”
Feminism is about strong males using law to further marginalize weak males.
The ruling class uses feminism as a tool to keep men, young men and boy’s down
It’s like pissing in a bucket of water – piss enough, and you’ll dilute the water to mostly piss. “Feminism” is a bucket of piss these days, from all the crazy and ignorant that attached to it over the years, especially the past decade when it became a fad.
feminism destroys men’s confidence and sense of satisfaction in being male.
every feminist is a abuser or a abuser apologist or a shield for other abusers.
Feminists don’t even think of men as human.
Most women and feminists view gay men as accessories.
these feminist nut cases have only one goal: total female supremacy at the expense of men. Fuck every last one of these haggard harpies. Fuck ‘em all.
I used to hold doors, I dont anymore. I just let it slam in the face of whoever is behind me b/c I have been publicly embarrassed by many a feminist for being polite.
Feminists are like witches, but this isn’t the The Land of Oz, Dorothy. There are no “good” feminists.
Brainwashed weak feminist men are a favorite of feminists. They don’t treat them very well, but they use them to great effect.
i’m mad as hell at the way men are treated by the feminist gynecocracy
The people who dismiss /mr are like abusers; they’re looking for any excuse to piss all over something they know is logical and true because they can’t handle it emotionally.
Many feminists do hate men and want to emasculate them. While I’m thankful for the few who don’t I feel that their silence allows the groups like NOW to exploit men and women alike for their own aims.
I know it sounds good to believe that feminism was always about equality but go and read up on the first wave suffragettes. They were basically domestic terrorists in many cases.
The feminism of the 60’s also lead to the vitriol hatred of men.
I suspect that the butt-ugly women who started feminism in the 60’s were confronted for the first time with an efficient mating market (after the sexual revolution), and they couldn’t stand “losing” to the pretty girls
[Feminists'] entire shtick is to repeat misinformation and when that fails bust out the unsubstantiated personal attacks
Yeah, no irony there!
I think this one is my favorite, though:
I will never socialize with feminists after I learned the darkness of their philosophy.
Most of these quotes are from the Men’s Rights subreddit. Every quote in fxexular’s list that I went to look at in context had gotten more upvotes than downvotes. So they must be true!
EDITED TO ADD: Oops! Forgot the link. I added it above. And here is is again, just in case.
Posted on September 7, 2011, in antifeminism, antifeminst women, evil women, hypocrisy, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 351 Comments.
I like how none of this is said with the remotest hint of substantiation actually.
I have never seen anyone fuss at anyone for opening doors, ever. I open doors for whomever is behind me, because that is polite. I thank all people who do the same for me. I have been thanked for opening doors, but never fussed at for it.
Bostonian- I’ve been fussed at for holding doors open for people. These people were dudes. One if them even called me a bitch because I happened to reach the door first.
I am sorry you encountered that.
I’m a sex-positive feminist, but I will never understand the conviction of the manosphere that feminism is All About Sex. I mean, what does “getting women into politics and STEM” have to do with sexuality? Or “family-friendly workplaces”? Or even “having people not call me gross because my armpits aren’t shaved”?
Yeah, I’m not going to take history lessons from morons who don’t know that the 60’s saw the Second Wave of feminism. Look up suffragettes, you whiny little babies.
These “feminist” creatures sound horrible. Thank God I’m not one of them! I’m just an ordinary person who happens to believe all people should be treated as equally human.
Here’s a fun game you can play at home:
1)Copy and paste the text of this blog post into Word, and find and replace all instances of “female/s” with “male/s” and all “male/s” with “female/s,”
2) Start a Reddit group and post this with no substantiation.
3) ???
4) Profit!
As a guy who opens doors for people (note that word: people) behind me, count me as someone else who has never experienced a negative reaction from doing so. I don’t know what parallel world these people are living on.
“These “feminist” creatures sound horrible. Thank God I’m not one of them! I’m just an ordinary person who happens to believe all people should be treated as equally human.”
Welcome to the MRM.
“Yeah, I’m not going to take history lessons from morons who don’t know that the 60′s saw the Second Wave of feminism. Look up suffragettes, you whiny little babies.”
@blitzgal
You need to read a little bit before you write.
Antz, it’s a joke. A joke about how I (an actual, real-life feminist) am so different from these “feminist” creatures imagined in the post that they’re unrecognizable to me.
Maybe we could call the MRA’s demon harpies “fymynysts” (hat tip to MRAL), and call the ordinary people who happen to believe in gender equality “feminists”? Just to make the bookkeeping simpler.
Because using the same word is just every kind of confusing.
I like these guys’ approach to feminism. Say truly CRAZY shit you just pulled out of your ass or possibly thought of while strangling yourself with a belt as you masturbate after having just huffed some AMAZING Martha Stewart paint (from Ace!)…and put it out into the ether. Putting it out there MAKES IT TRUE!
Also, feminists, all sprung–fully-formed–Athena’s vagina. And they’re given a standard-issue unicorn at birth. I READ IT SOMEWHERE.
And you need to lay off the hallucinogenic drugs.
“The ruling class uses feminism as a tool to keep men, young men and boy’s down”
That’s okay, synthetics have made down essentially obsolete in all but the most extreme cold. Those boys will be fine without it.
I love Athena, so I’m totally down with that, but I don’t buy the unicorn thing. Aren’t all feminists total sluts? Unicorns hate sluts! Pretty sure I’ve read that somewhere, too.
Somehow I forgot to add the link to the Reddit post. Oops. It’s there now, twice!
I also heard we have vagina dentata.
I also hold doors for whoever is behind me. I never understood that people apparently get fussy over it. However, one time I held a door for a man, and he looked me over, laughed, and said “we’ll alright then!” I obviously didn’t get the joke.
Feminism is about strong males using law to further marginalize weak males.
Of course feminism is all about men! Men are the only people! And they’re certainly the only ones doing things that matter. Ergo, feminism must be about men doing things.
I can’t help but read these and hear a whiney voice in my head screaming “Waaaah, those feminazis won’t let me do whatever I want to women, no matter how abusive under the banner of masculinity! waaaah.”
Once I was approaching a double door at the same time as an older man, and as he went for the left door (to hold it for me, it turned out, though I didn’t immediately notice that) I went for the right door to open it for myself as usual — we ended up pausing at the same time, both doors open, and he said “open your own doors? Good for you!” and I smiled at him awkwardly and that was the end of it. And that’s pretty much the most drama I’ve ever had pertaining to a door. Guess I’m not a real feminist! :p
I tend to believe people when they talk or write of their experiences, but I find the reports of ‘cursed out for holding open a door’ hard to believe.
When someone, male or female, opens a door for me, I thank them. The only problem I’ve encountered is when I’m reaching to open the door for myself and a man comes up quickly behind me to open it for me. Then we end up doing a kind of dance, which can be awkward but hardly curse-worthy. And I thank him (it’s always been a man).
I hold the door open for everyone: men, women, Conquistadors on donkeys, babies. Sure, sometimes I wonder why babies are out walking around by themselves, but that doesn’t stop me from being polite.
Re: gay men as accessories…lemme save you some heartache–they strenuously object when you try to wear them as a pendant.
Re: gay men as accessories…lemme save you some heartache–they strenuously object when you try to wear them as a pendant.
They’re also not crazy about being bangles. Especially if you stack them three deep or more.
Fun fact: The guy who posted that comment about doors also happens to be a white supremacist.
Fuck babies*; they can stop clogging up my route and use the cat door I cut out for that very purpose.
Hmm, I’d love to get a few gay men as accessories, but what if they demand that I make them full-on accomplices? Or even ringleaders? DRAMA.
*note for MRAs: this is not meant literally. Babies still can’t consent.
Obviously not! Real Feminists(tm) spend their days cursing at men and spitting on them and pointedly sleeping with women to totally spite men despite actually being heterosexual. It’s quite a burden, actually.
Now I’m imagining that episode from Better Off Ted where the automatic doors don’t open for black people because they can’t see them, except the automatic doors are all this guy. :D
I remember a guy holding a door open for me once and after I thanked him, he said, “If I don’t do it, it’s discrimination.”
Personally, I’d rather open my own doors than deal with that kind of attitude.
Ah yes I remember my childhood well. After springing of Mother Athena’s vagina, I often frolicked among the flowers with my pet unicorn. My other Mother Artemis taught me in the ways of the warrior goddess (using a credit card and using men for all their worth).
And then one day my unicorn disappeared. But my feminist sisters comforted me because as we all know, when we hit puberty we turn into flesh-eating harpies. So I suppose Sparky went to a good cause… my stomach! *insert evil manic fymynyst laugh here*
Lauralot, no need to use Word, we have a regender website for that.
KathleenB, do I have to spit? I never drink enough water and I’m always slightly dehydrated, so that might be tough. :(
Hey, this just in; feminists were against the sexual revolution! Tru fax! The sexual revolution was all about men getting more tail and no feminists were in favor of it! At all! Ever!
@Bagelsan: Yes, the spitting is a requirement. Of course you could limit yourself to only spitting upon omega men or men you find sexually unattractive. But then you’d definitely have to take advantage of a beta while riding the alpha cock carousel.
I usually prefer opening my own doors, too, but that’s because I tend to walk slowly and people stop to hold the door for me when I’m still a ways off. I don’t want to make them wait, but I don’t want to run, either. But that’s my own issue and the awkwardness is probably in my head. I can’t recall any other door-related incidents, even when I wear my feminism-themed shirts out in public.
Bagelsan, how about one of those squirty bottles? You can get ‘em for like a buck at Wal-Mart.
Bagelsan: Sorry, it’s mandatory. Article 2, section iii of the Feminist Agenda: A True Feminist ™ is required at all times to expectorate upon members of the lesser gender. You can apply for an exemption, but those can take years, and the fines add up. You could be thrown out of the Vast Feminist Conspiracy for failure to comply with the Agenda, you know.
And the truly sad thing is that some MRA is going to take me seriously and my comments will probably end up all over the skeeviest places on the internet, being trotted out as ‘proof’ of the Feminist Agenda.
I should add that while I’ve never met a woman who femi-sisted ™ on opening her own damn door, I do know of one who will chew men out for NOT racing women to the door and insisting on opening it.
This woman is a pro-life fundamentalist Calvinist, i.e. explicitly anti-feminist.
The vast, vast majority of American dudes and ladies follow the first-person-at-the-door-holds-it policy. Some just never got the memo. And so they fuss. And project.
What is w/ the obsession w/ door holding? o_O Hold doors for everybody! It’s polite, and it’s nice :) I hold doors whenever somebody’s about to go through behind me or coming in in front of me… o_O
I mean did they just hold doors for women before and let it slam on men before? o_O I don’t think that gives a good impression to women either… it’s kinda like being on a date and being mean to your waiter…
It’s also like how door holding is this big bloody battleground to them in the Gender Wars xD
Gee, coming into contact with the ‘MRM’ and the like has re-established one truth I’m always saddened to be faced with, there sure is a lot of lousy reasoning in the world. These ‘facts about feminism’ merely demonstrate the type of beliefs which flow from a dichotomous analysis of life, one which polarizes all views into binary points (rendering both absurd in the process). These individuals generate superficial and stereotypical ideas about the complexities of human psychology and social/political issues, rendering what should be fascinating discussions into dull, mindless idiocy.
It must be tiresome to live within a shroud of irrationality and emotional instability. Both of which, ironically enough, have long been claimed as feminine flaws. Perhaps that’s one of the problems that these individuals have with feminism: they resent and fear the woman within.
I will never socialize with feminists after I learned the darkness of their philosophy.
I think he meant “Darknyss” >_>
Hmm, not a bad idea. And in this hot weather a lot of guys might actually thank me for it! …Mwah ha HA! Participate in your own feminist oppression, gently moistened manscum!
I also have the mindset that you should open doors for anyone behind you for the sake of politeness. I especially try to get the door for someone with their hands full or struggling with a heavy package. I have had men act like I’m a weirdo for opening doors for them. Maybe it’s a regional thing, since Joplin is one of the most socially conservative places you’ll find. I also think it’s a generational thing, because younger men seem to have less qualms about a woman holding a door open for them.
Sandwiches and holding doors open. Two things guaranteed to get some air time anytime idiot men open their mouths about feminism.
Honestly I have to say that with people like you in the world I sorry to be male. I happen to be a very strong supporter of female equality and I am not gay or an accesory. I am just as much of a man if not more than you because I am not scared of equality. I am not affraid to share the benefits of the world with women and with minorities. I understand that there are some really radical women out there but it is garbage like this blog that forces them to that state. My advise to you from one man to another is stand up and open your eyes and see that if you didn’t have a penis life would be harder. No one really wants you to apologise for your gender but rather don’t hide behind it. The fact that you were born with a penis does not give you any talent, skill, or trait that places you above or below anyone else. Keep this in mind the next time you choose to call all who desire equality to be psycho or “bitches” because you only make yourselves look like idiots.
I know one place where opening doors is an egalitarian procedure, in a way that makes all this look like posturing.
The Army. I’ve had generals open the door for me. The rule is (though not stated) the first person to the door holds it for the next person, who (if there are more people coming) passes it to the person behind, until everyone as gone through.
Also, the junior person is the first into any vehicle, which has more than one passenger in the back seat. The driver hold the door. So I’ve had captains and colonels opening car doors so I could get in and closing them behind me when I get out.
And some of them were women.
@Bagelsan
That sounds kinda awkward. I think I would do the same in that situation. I mean, what he said sounds a little condecending, but at the same time, he’s an older man, and…well, what else can you do but laugh uncomfortably and move on. I’ve gotten argumentative about things that people don’t see what the deal is, but it’s usually when they are clueless about having said something REALLY hurtful, and then insist that I shouldn’t be hurt about it. Like cat-calling for example, or “you sure are good at that, for a girl” and other dimwitted statements.
@Amnesia
Descrimination if he doesn’t hold the door, eh? What a jackass.
But Joplin’s so full of the h0m0z! (I’m from ’round those parts.)
Me, I spent my day spitting on betas and opening doors by myself. Those dudes must be right! Damn us door-opening harpies!
Seriously though, if you let the door slam shut in the face of the person behind you, it doesn’t mean you’re anti-feminist. It just means you’re an asshole. (And in Japan it means you’re Japanese. They aren’t big on holding doors, just fyi. Drove me bonkers because in America That’s Just What We Do. That was your Culture Moment for the day. Chocomint out.)
If I can get equal pay and work opportunity, safety from sexual violence and harassment, and an equal voice in media and politics, I will hold open every door for the rest of my life, or let men hold them, or build a door-opening robot, or seriously whatever you want.
Many of these comments simply make no sense. I know that’s a Captain Obvious level observation, but just let me share these pearls of wisdom and reason:
“Feminists see the world through the lens of hierarchy.
To the feminist, gender is a binary thing. You are either a man or a woman. Masculinity can be observed, as can femininity.”
“Feminists hate the glass ceiling but readily accept the glass cellar.” WTF is a glass cellar?
“Women are the ones that look at gay men as feminized because any man that doesn’t lust after them 24/7 must be a fag…or so their hampster wheel tells them.” Hamster wheels talk? Who knew! And what’s the connection between hamster wheels and believing a man is gay?
“When feminists describe rape, it’s on the level amputating an appendage. When feminists define rape, it’s on the level of stubbing a toe.” Does this make sense to anyone besides the dude that wrote it?
“Feminists like to hide behind children.” Like a human shield?
Just a few things to ponder on a Wednesday evening.
Personally I hold doors open for women (and men) every single day, and I’ve never had anyone object. Then again, I do the “hold it open and linger to keep it open as you pass through” thing, not the “awkwardly insist on playing at chivalry and hold it open from outside” thing. I can only imagine the ostentation a white supremacist puts into the act.
The one time anyone has ever bothered to raise gender issues in relation to the holding of doors in my experience was one time when I was in an elevator with a woman and a man and the other man and I moved to hold the door for a fourth passenger while the woman, standing towards the rear of the elevator, didn’t act and maybe said “aw” in a sort of sympathetic way. The fourth person didn’t actually get on, but on the ride upwards the woman sardonically commented “the boys act while the girl whines” or something like that. All of us had a brief chuckle and went on with our lives, although I later thought of continuing the joke by turning to the woman and saying “you sexist pig!”. But life, it is filled with regrets. L’esprit d’ascenseur.
It’s amazing how thoroughly attached folks can get to the question of door-holding (also tire-changing, jar-opening, and the occasional fetish centering around semi-automatic handgun slides) as some sort of iconic component of the masculine gender role. Is it some sort of last bastion sort of thing — sure, you can vote and you can work as an engineer, but don’t come crying to me when you have to… open your own doors? What??
In a weird sort of way it’s kind of cute. I’m not sure how these people think I get into my apartment…
@Bagelsan
I prefer this one
I think AntZ is fighting a one No True Scotsman in defense of MRM.
Yeah, I was mentally just like “…hurray for really low bars? ^^; ” but it certainly wasn’t something to get in a fight over or even worth being rude to him about. Maybe he’ll be slightly cooler about the next woman who opens her own door in which case, yay, I win. :p
“I know it sounds good to believe that feminism was always about equality but go and read up on the first wave suffragettes. They were basically domestic terrorists in many cases.”
Yes, yes they were. Because they wanted to vote and own property and not get beaten by their husbands. OH THE HORROR.
And is this the same subreddit that often suggests men should beat their wives and set public buildings afire? What, that’s not domestic terrorism, just good thinkin’?
I have this, I’m sure is extremely annoying, tendency to use both doors when it’s a double door. That’s right! Even if some dude is holding a door open for me, I’ll use the other one, because hey, designed for two people to use simultaneously! As I am a polite person I usually thank the dude in question, but come the fuck on, door opening is supposed to be something women can’t do?
Suffragettes were total domestic terrorists. They knocked a policeman’s cap right off! RIGHT OFF!
http://www.cartoons.ac.uk/record-image/standard/WH0519
Therefore, women voting is bad.
(I just find it funny that cap off-knocking is lumped in the same category as vandalism and physical assault)
amandajane: It was only a certain class of white women who were deemed ‘worthy’ of having doors opened for them, etc. See Sojourner Truth’s ‘Ain’t I A Woman?’
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/sojtruth-woman.asp
or, if you prefer video, Alfre Woodard doing a pretty amazing reading:
“… Suffragettes were total domestic terrorists. They knocked a policeman’s cap right off! RIGHT OFF! …”
Do you people even know how your movement got started?
Seneca Falls?
Antz, I hear a bunch of feminists threw red paint on some copies of American Psycho in a bookstore once…
It was when we burned our bras, right?
Do you people even know how your movement got started?
bladerunner?
Kendra, I think the door thing is regional. I never absorbed the “men are supposed to open doors for women” thing, and I was explicitly taught as a child that if you go through a door before someone else you hold it open for them, because that’s just the polite thing to do. And I don’t think I’ve ever, in Toronto anyway, encountered a man who got shirty because I opened the door for him. Maybe it’s not a thing up here?
Anyway, what a petty thing to be angry about.
Man, I liked American Psycho.
Guess being a feminist means I hate it now, though, because we’re all a hive mind or whatever else the MRAs are saying this week.
Sharculese, everyone knows feminism was started when Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein and unleashed her monster on an unsuspecting public.
Come on, don’t make me send you for re-education! Cause I can totally do that, according to the last thread!
MRAs have taken to claiming that men predominate the *bottom* of society as well as its top, thanks to Warren Farrell’s half-assed sociological research, wherein Farrell erased all the poor women.
I assume this is the Glass Cellar