Science Corner: Why some self-obsessed douchebags hate the ladies so much
I'd do me. Why won't those bitches?
Well, this explains a few things:
Narcissistic Heterosexual Men Target Their Hostility Primarily at Heterosexual Women, the Objects of Their Desires, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (July 29, 2010) — Heterosexual women bear the brunt of narcissistic heterosexual men’s hostility, while heterosexual men, gay men and lesbian women provoke a softer reaction, according to psychologist Dr. Scott Keiller from Kent State University at Tuscarawas. This is likely to be due to women’s unparalleled potential for gratifying, or frustrating, men’s narcissism, the author concludes. They are crucial players and even gatekeepers in men’s quests for sexual pleasure, patriarchal power and status.
More here. The actual study here (subscribers only).
Yes, like a lot of psych studies, it was based on a relatively small sample of college students (104 undergraduate men, to be exact). But after this post yesterday – and, you know, the entire content of this blog — it’s hard not to think that Keiller is on to something.
Posted on August 9, 2011, in douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, pussy cartel, reactionary bullshit. Bookmark the permalink. 506 Comments.
You know, I’m not sure how he’s trying to convince me o_O
I freely admit that fag, dyke, tranny and all the rest are derogatory words meant to shame
You could say that w/ nething.
I freely admit that fag, dyke, tranny and all the rest are derogatory words meant to shame. I want you to admit feminazi is as well.
I freely admit that fag, dyke, tranny and all the rest are derogatory words meant to shame. I want you to admit VCR is as well.
I freely admit that fag, dyke, tranny and all the rest are derogatory words meant to shame. I want you to admit walnuts is as well.
I freely admit that fag, dyke, tranny and all the rest are derogatory words meant to shame. I want you to admit NWOslave is as well.
etc etc etc XD
Hey Dave, you’ve got quite the crew here. They’re so blessedly perfect they can’t even admit slurs they use to hurt and shame others aren’t meant to do just that.
Good night all, I must flounce.
Here’s the thing NWO, just b/c YOU say words (or think words) that you KNOW are meant to shame/hurt ppl and you want to say them TO shame/hurt, doesn’t mean that’s why EVERYBODY says things xD
You may want to say tranny to me to hurt me, but I’m not saying homophobe to hurt YOU xD It describes you.
If you don’t think it describes you, please lay out everything you believe about gay ppl and the gay agenda and the positive and negative effects you believe homosexuality has on adults and children, etc… and we’ll see :3
XD
This is EXACTLY like Ali/Liston 2 xD Over in the first round xD
Ding ding! *Holds up Ami’s hand*
What am I saying here? What I’m saying is that you ladies are, at heart, bullies. It is the dynamic of the bully that gets you off. That is to say, most often you realize your dominant role against your children, but you secretly enjoy your submission role with your dominant men. Nature has a way of realizing payback.
I think someone has mommy issues.
We’ve got him so well trained that he admits when he’s flouncing.
If only we could train him to not be a dick.
@Vermin, NWOSWTFBBQOMGLOL is from a binary universe. Measurements are 1 or 0. If it can be measured it’s 1 if not, then 0.
QED
To live is to enter the world from between a woman’s legs. To live is to come to a resolution regarding the assumptions first foisted on us by our primary nurturer. To live, whether as a man or a woman, is to have mommy issues.
ive seen chuckeedee around before but i dont remember him talking like carl sagan got whacked on the head a couple of times. is this a normal thing for him?
Of course, but some mommy issues are more fucked-up than others.
So do people who are delivered via cesarean section also have mommy issues, or is it just those who enter the world via the whole between the legs thing?
For example, some of us are careful to not project our mommy issues onto the entire female gender.
We are all made of womb stuff.
My best friend was born via a c section and has a jewish mother…so where does he fall?
So what I’m getting is, this Roissy guy pretends he’s had sex with girls, a claim that deeply impresses guys who have never had sex with girls, and then he tells them they can never have sex with girls themselves because they’re not awesome manly men like him. And these guys believe him and sit at home fuming about how mean women are, and also send him money for some reason.
I guess that’s one way to spend a Saturday night.
I’ve said this before, but wouldn’t it be easier to just talk to some women? We’re not that scary! I swear!
Well, Ann Coulter is pretty scary. Not sure why anyone would want to approach her though.
Gah! Spear, don’t do that!
“I’ve said this before, but wouldn’t it be easier to just talk to some women? We’re not that scary! I swear!”
You’re just trying to trick them before doing evil things to them. I think the current Agenda copy says castration or something I don’t keep up with these things.
I must say, that study explains a lot.
And I remember NWO being a creationist, anti-fluoride, sympathetic to “Jewish banker” conspiracy theories and linking to Holocaust denial sites, but I don’t remember him going on about vaccines. Did I miss that somewhere? NWO, do you think the MMR gave you brain damage and made you the way you are now?
Also, backing up Ami that “homophobe” means “afraid of queer people” and is not gender-specific. Michele Bachmann is a homophobe. Most of my American relatives, male and female, are homophobes. And while most homophobes focus on – and incessantly talk about – gay men and anal sex, I think this has less to do with some grand matriarchal conspiracy than with the “male as default” frame that is prevalent in our language and culture.
kristin, check the spearheader slut walk post. nwo said something about lining up kids to give them fluoride shots. its not clear what he meant by that, but anti-vax is totally an available interpretation.
The vaccine thing was in the other thread, I’m not sure it was a specific calling out, but he did refer to “flouride(sic) shots”, which could only be interpreted as somehow actually being about vaccines. Maybe. He also went on about mercury later but not in the same context, i think.
Ah. I’ve been avoiding that thread.
I don’t think I ever got a fluoride shot! I got fluoride AND I got shots, but never combined in one. *pout*
Patriarchy seems to be a catch-all term for anything which is not rabidly feminist, along with the usual slew of anti-male shaming language (“creepy, narcissist, other bullshit etc. etc.”). You know, “you might be a rapist if” bullshit. Did you know that “nagging” is rape? The bar is never too low when you’re a feminist.
FactFinder, I need you to find me at least three different, reputable (to be decided by me) sources for each of those links to confirm they’re from some random person I’ve never heard of. Until then they’re libel.
http://archiveofthebitingbeaver.wordpress.com/
http://yellowisthecolor.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/one-emotionally-disturbed-woman-v-a-gaggle-of-violent-misogynist-loons-the-internet-at-its-finest/
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/BitingBeaver/Screenshots
Nobby dearest, the libeler was Liz of The Liz Library. You’re welcome to look back through the comments and find it, I don’t respect your intelligence enough to help you. You can hallucinate that it’s because you’re a woman or honorary woman or whatever you need to feed your complex and not because of your actions. Have a nice day.
This is getting worrisome. NWO linked to a study I was going to mention to him! Anyway, the conversation has moved on but here is something about it anyway:
It is based on a survey of 4451 women aged 16 to 85, drawn from the Bureau of Statistics 2007 National Mental Health and Wellbeing Survey. The survey is representative of eight million women.
Previously unpublished figures show 27 per cent of women have experienced at least one form of gender-based violence: about 8 per cent have been raped, 15 per cent have experienced sexual assault that did not involve penetration, 10 per cent have been stalked, and almost 8 per cent have been badly beaten by a spouse or partner.
However, what shocked the authors was the strong association between the women’s experience and serious mental illness. It was especially noticeable among women with exposure to two or more forms of gender violence.
For example, among women with no exposure to gender violence, 28 per cent had a serious diagnosed mental illness in their lifetime. But among those exposed to two types of gender violence, 69 per cent had a serious mental illness. Among those with exposure to three or more types of violence, almost 90 per cent had illnesses such as anxiety disorders, substance abuse, or post traumatic stress disorder, and nearly 35 per cent had attempted suicide.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/one-in-four-women-suffer-sexual-violence-study-20110802-1i9za.html#ixzz1Ub2xadGd
The National Mental Health and Wellbeing Survey is here:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4326.0Main%20Features22007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4326.0&issue=2007&num=&view=
That’s one exhaustive list, 51 items spelling out that yes, you might be a rapist. Good list. Thanks for posting it, FactFinder.
FelixBC is baiting me like a little puppy dog, in case you haven’t noticed. Feminists are childish like that.
Oh the infamous biting beaver comment on Heart’s site xD I think most of us here think Heart and her crew are alrdy pretty f-ed up, and she’s a rabidly transphobic rad fem (also she thinks talking about high heels requires a trigger warning >_> ) and I remember that post being passed around by my feminist friends all going WTF IS THIS S- xD
In FACT I referenced the post earlier as some f-ed up stuff that a rad fem said xD
Oh, and the National Mental Health and Wellbeing survey was drawn from “a representative sample of people aged 16-85 years who lived in private dwellings across Australia”. Not just from people who had suffered violence, and not just people who suffered a mental illness.
You can at least find something other than a blog post for a purported sociological view, can’t you? I mean, photoshop is pretty easy these days, as is making up a throwaway forum name and taking screenshots. Do you have anything from this Biting Beaver herself? I mean, that’s quite a screed! You think it would be easy finding something else somewhere where she accepted it.
Also, why should I even care?
Well, Nobby, you have my permission to doubt facts then. I know feminists have problems with their eyes sometimes. It’s just funny that you will accept some old Penthouse article as scripture and then will not accept multiple sources and screenshots as evidence. But really, it’s all about getting attention and then bowing down, getting attention and then dashing off. I’ll give you your attention as long as you give me my entertainment.
Tho me and my friends found out about it the same way… thru third hand sources… xD
I should ask Anji, since Anji knows Biting Beaver (or at least knows her online) and also seems to believe that she loves and doesn’t hate her son…
http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2009/04/08/on-raising-male-children/
At least in that post she seems to.think BB is, but maybe she didn’t hear about the post?
As I said I think I’ll ask her :3 (i didn’t know they knew each other xD )
I know Anji loves her son v much… she’s an amazingly dedicated and caring mother :3
Oh wait, I reread the beginning xD
She says “at least in Heart’s case” so she does know BB is problematic :3
And FactFinder has, once again, missed the point. Fun!
And my second question still stands. Why should I even care what this random person said?
Sharculese:
[O]ther stories from the latest issue of the journal of insane things: shark is dog, dying is good for you, and hitler was president of the moon.
I found a website that might be relevant to your interests!
http://incorrecthitler.tumblr.com/
Still haven’t found a second source? You may admit defeat, even if you are unable to do so in a respectful and mature way. I know many feminists are naturally catty and sullen, so it will not surprise me.
Hi VoiP, I still won’t “blow you” if that’s what you’re here for.
Shorter FactFinder: I win this thread infinity
Also, since this is part of a regular pattern with trolls around here, now that you’ve declared victory when can we expect the overly-dramatic flounce?
Has this one made transphobic comments? Because it always seems to come after that.
Anji? Or BB?
Factfinder. Trolls always seem to need to do this before they consider their work complete.
Hey there, Factfinder! You seem to have all the facts!
I’d like to know what I could do to appeal to men more! How can I get a boyfriend, Factfinder? How can I make a boyfriend happy? What makes women attractive? What do men like? What personality traits should I have? Should I dress skimpy? Should I act demure? Is it better to ask guys a lot of questions, or just sit there looking approachable? Do you like pickles?
If you have these facts, please share them with us!
Just when I thought he couldn’t get any more ludicrous, FactFinder cites Encyclopedia Dramatica as a source.
“Research to date has shown that narcissists’ low empathy, feelings of entitlement, and perceptions of being deprived of ‘deserved’ admiration and gratification can make them prone to aggression and vengeance”
Sound like a wallflower female to me all right.
Maybe. Maybe not. By what standards do we deem one person to have more mommy issues than another? By what criteria are we establishing our pigeon-holes? What am I getting at here? Some of the most manly men around have mommy issues that are just as overwhelming as the mommy issues of any nerd. Consider Italian or Arabic or Scandinavian or Asian cultures. How many cultures do you want to cite in your analysis? Which religions? If a man or woman realizes that he/she has mommy issues, does this mean that he/she has more mommy issues than a man/woman who does not acknowledge them?
Does this require a response? :) Ok, I’ll bite… delivery via c-section is unnatural, it is an “interference” with biological processes and natural law, and it is a product of the technology era. It is consistent with the context of the sterile, morally bankrupt cultural values of our zeitgeist ;-) Just playing devil’s advocate.
Cool story bro
Hi VoiP, I still won’t “blow you” if that’s what you’re here for.
Hi FactFinder. My entire post was full of insults (No love for “[you've got a] Politburo between your ears”?) but it’s awesome that that’s the one you fixated on.
Wow, someone mentioned Biting Beaver! Only an hour after I thought about her… that’s freaky.
Anti-feminists just “love” BB the way they love Andrea Dworkin… she’s a radical feminist who doesn’t mince words, and doesn’t cut men any slack. Probably less slack than she should. I don’t doubt that she did write the “hateful” things she’s accused of writing (I used to read her blog back before it was locked down). But there’s context (as with Dworkin) which the “anti’s” cheerfully ignore because they have such a great need to believe that feminists hate men.
BB was the author of that famous post about how she was unable to get emergency BC pills when she needed them… probably many people who’ve read that post (or otherwise heard the story) don’t know who it came from.
But that’s a digression, because I fail to see how BB is relevant to this thread anyway.
And I’m amused to see that FactFinder is still oblivious to the way that he got this topic rolling in the first place! :D
chuckeedee: I know you weren’t here when we established this (it was a couple months ago), but blog and forum etiquette, here and elsewhere, says NEVER PLAY THE DEVIL’S ADVOCATE. Just say what you actually think.
Yeah, who’s to say what’s real and what’s not? That’s, like, totally deep, man.
(Total fucking mommy issues. Seriously, someone page Dr. Freud.)
delivery via c-section is unnatural, it is an “interference” with biological processes and natural law, and it is a product of the technology era.
Actually, the practice goes back thousands of years.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/cesarean/
Thousands of years – think about where the name came from :)
Testing! :D
Yay! :D Success!
Appeal to Nature Fallacy…
Also, I would not exist but for medical interventions in childbirth. My sister was induced a month early when my mom went into the beginning stages of kidney failure. But for induction of labor, my mom would have died and my sister and the rest of us would never have been born.
The same applies to c-section. It saves lives. The problem isn’t that c-sections are used, it is that they are overused in the US.
Random question Factfinder, but did you use to post here under a long username that began with e43 or something? I remember seeing someone making arguments similar to yours back when manboobz was on blogspot. I may be mistaken, of course, pardon me if I am. And pardon me for popping back in, too, I’ll be on my way after this~
I think the theory applies heavily to certain MRAs (especially anti-feminists, MGTOWers and those who are generally anti-female), and I have a good reason to believe so.
I remember reading a topic on some MRA board (I think it was on antimisandry.com or something) about people on that forum who had high IQs and if they had higher than average intelligence compared to the rest of society (and possibly those who didn’t consider themselves MRAs). Either all or almost all of the people who posted said they had above-average IQs (some of which claimed they were as high as 140+). Some tried to use psuedo-modesty, but you could see the narcissism poking through. Additionally, many predictably said that their high IQs were what made them realize how evil the matriarchal feminazi liberal society was and that they were too smart to get duped into getting married, etc.
I refuse to believe that nearly all of those who replied are “above average,” especially in such a high range as 140+. Why would all the smarties gather on MRA boards and not do something productive with their so-called greater than average intelligence? Maybe it’s because they have no social intelligence (which requires empathy and being able to put themselves in others’ shoes). Or they could be outright lying and believing they’re smarter than they really are since they’re narcissistic assholes. Yeah, I’m going with the latter on that one.
Most MRAs believe they have a superior IQ because for them, guys that have a superior IQ cannot get laid. What’s funny is that when they claim they have an (imaginary) girlfriend, she too has a superior IQ. That’s one of the reason MRAs hang out in Human Bio-Diversity (HBD) blogs and forums.
Seeing as you seem to be disinclined to subtlety, perhaps I should be more specific. More specifically, what mommy issues might you be projecting in your angst wrt projecting mommy issues? Why should you even be concerned about whether or not others read mommy issues into your projections?
So one of our resident jackasses in a previous thread asked for proof that women are discriminated against for being women. Not that he’s going to believe this chart, but research out of Georgetown yet again confirms that women are paid less than men at every level of education. A woman needs to have a PhD to make as much money as a man with a Bachelor’s Degree. (But women are paid less because they waste time having babies, blah blah, blah. Yeah, I know your bullshit response already)
http://www9.georgetown.edu/grad/gppi/hpi/cew/pdfs/collegepayoff-complete.pdf
Chuckeedee – in your response to my original post, you generally stated that what all women want is a man to dominate them. Even if we don’t want this on a conscious level, on a subconscious level, this is what we are all seeking out. Personally, I think that your hypothesis is BS. While some women (and some men) enjoy being dominated in various aspects of life, this is certainly not a universal desire. For instance, if ALL men desired to be dominant, while ALL women desired to be submissive, then why in the world would a man visit a dominatrix? According to your theory, this man and woman would both be violating their nature! And yet, many men and women do this every day!
But I digress, the real point is even if you’re right, you’re still wrong. Even if ALL women want to be dominated by a man, that doesn’t translate into a desire to be dominated by ALL men. Even if a woman wants to be submissive, that does not mean she wants to drop trou for any guy who suggests he might want to dominate her. A desire to be dominated does not tranlate into a blanket pass to that woman’s vag.
Reason #52 why NWOslave is a troll who doesn’t seriously believe what he’s saying: “‘Homophobe’ is a slur!” He then compared it to other words that are slurs. The obvious difference? Those slurs are based on who the recipients are. This “slur” is based on who the recipient hates and fears. (One could argue that hating and fearing gays and lesbians is who the homophobe is, but seeing as NWOslave is a troll who doesn’t seriously believe what he’s saying, he’s not arguing in good faith and so there’s no point.)
I’ve been in arguments about the word in the past with people who weren’t trolls but were homophobes. They would argue that the word isn’t correct because they don’t fear gays and lesbians. Except that most arguments against it that aren’t based on religious texts are fear-based. “They want to recruit our children!” “Society will collapse if we give them equal rights!” “You’ll die early if you do each other up the bum!” (Oh yeah, one just needs to look at how much focus is on gay men to see that homophobia has its roots in misogyny (basically that gay men are seen as feminine, and feminine is bad), with a dash of misandry (men get so consumed with lust that they’ll start screwing each other).)
So no, “homophobe” is neither a slur nor a misnomer.
I dunno…e-string couldn’t write two words without bragging about being in a doctoral program in engineering, or talking about how much he works out.
It’s not about me, Chuckles. You were the one who wrote that women are bullies who get off on dominating their kids and being dominated by men. Frankly, that says more about you than about women.
Your subsequent posts were just empty, pseudo-intellectual twaddle. Substance is apparently not your strong suit. Oh well, if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
NWO: As usual you ignore the part where we say men are great. We like men. A lot of happen to be men. we have feminist lovers, who love us because we are men.
What we don’t accept is that men are better
But yes, Men Are Great.
Yeaaaaaa, I remember that term being tossed about in my history books. As a descriptive adjective when describing Ghengis Khan on homosexuals.
[citation needed]
Is homophobe a descriptor with negative value? Yes. Like any form of bigotry there is a perjorative element to the word. But it’s not, at it’s root, meant to be insulting.
I realise this is hard for you, since you use otherwise neutral terms (e.g. feminist, liberal) as if they were insults, but that’s your problem.
Homophobe is gender independent. You are old enough to remember Anita Bryant. She was a homophobe. She got over it.
Summer Snow, since Fact Finder hasn’t come back, I’ll take a stab at your questions!
How can I get a boyfriend, Factfinder?
Dress up as your favourite anime character (extra points if it’s a dragon of some kind), go to your town’s biggest tourist attraction and tackle every male who passes you. Great “how we met” story for the grandkids!
How can I make a boyfriend happy?
All these feminists who keep going on about “love” and “mutual respect” and “communication” have got it all wrong. What you need to do is assert your alpha status, like Cesar Milan does with dogs.* Whenever he sasses you, pin him to the ground and growl into his throat as if you’re about to rip it out. Works for me!
What makes women attractive?
I assume you’ve already had the boob job/Brazilian wax/Botox combo? Ok, so men go NUTS for a woman in uniform. Not a sexy maid uniform, or a sexy Nazi uniform**, but something more along the lines of a sexy McDonald’s employee. You know, the little hat, the McDonald’s shirt only skin-tight with strategic cutouts, the bright yellow thong. Just go to your local sex shop, they’ll have one.
What do men like?
Oh, Summer Snow, haven’t you been paying attention to the extremely generous men who’ve been here to educate us all this time? Don’t you know that men like women who are submissive but not needy, take care of all the housework, childcare, and cooking, but don’t expect financial support, who are under the age of 25 with the bodies of supermodels, who gain no weight ever even when they’re pregnant, and who are classy but have no standards whatsoever in their partners? How many times do you have to be told?
What personality traits should I have?
See above, but add a love of unreciprocated oral sex and a complete lack of any emotional or social needs.
Should I dress skimpy?
Sure, as long as it’s not slutty, because then you’ll get raped and it’ll be your own fault.
Should I act demure?
Of course, as long as you’re not being a stuck-up bitch or a prude, because that’s exactly the same as spitting in some poor beta’s face!
Is it better to ask guys a lot of questions, or just sit there looking approachable?
Yes!
Do you like pickles?
What do you think I am, Snooki?
*FYI, Cesar Milan’s theory of dog training is totally outdated and based on flawed models of canine behaviour, but that is neither here nor there.
**I assume these exist, but I’m not googling it!
Kristin: Not McD’s, Hot Dog on a Stick
Why should I care about your interpretations? Why do you define things as specifically as you do? You’re digging a deeper hole to bury yourself in cap’n bathtub. You’re deliberately taking my points out of context to cast your own narrow interpretations and thus revealling the things that matter to you.