Mmmm, satire!

I’m kinda attracted to the plastic doll woman. I wonder if she would date me? I’d get her an expensive car. And a riding crop.

OK, I’m weird, but I LOVE the voices on xtranormal videos.

Other than that, it was pretty dull. Things That Guys Who Have Never Dated or Spoken to a Woman Imagine All Women Do, for $400, Alex.

Finally! Thank you, Holly, for that bit of comment-y goodness! In this crowd of geeky, feministic people, you’d think there’d be a Buffy reference in every thread, but…

Isn’t loser supposed to be one of the ultra-powerful “shaming” words that women/feminists supposedly use to control men, along with creep and creepy. From now on, every time a man doesn’t buy me something expensive I’m gonna spin around and shout LoserLoserLoserLoser!

RobbiRobbi – Oy, “shaming tactics.” The logic here seems to be:

-If someone disagrees with me, or dislikes me, this makes me feel bad.
-Therefore, they are disagreeing with/disliking me in order to make me feel bad.
-Trying to hurt other people’s feelings is bad and you shouldn’t do it.

The validity of the disagreement or the reason for the dislike are not important factors here.

So, if she sucks that bad, leave her? Nobody should be with a partner who makes them unhappy, man or woman. Dickbag ex had a conversation similar to this with me, but replace [selling cars for one really nice one] with [give up your education and be my secretary/stay at home wife]. Yeah, sometimes relationships require sacrifices, but uh, it’s always your choice to be in/stay in that relationship if the sacrifices are something you’re not ok with making. I’ve told people my career may one day require me leaving the upper Midwest, even though I love it here. The ones who weren’t ok with it knew up front, and could leave.

FoSB is ok with it, cause he knows that his career may delay my moving back down to Chicago, where I could find a job much more easily(being a translator where lots of companies are HQ’d), and may mean staying in Wisconsin a bit longer than I’d like. Thus, he is ok with possibly making a sacrifice for me later on.

How come the computer voices aren’t consistent? o_O

In back to back sentence the female char says “COM… promise” and then “compromise” w/o the enunciation or the pause… o_O

Also… do they rly believe women do this in relationships? Like more than maybe 5 in the world? (I have no idea if ANY PERSON does this, but I’m gonna be generous and assume this is based on real exp xD ) wouldn’t having 2 cars be better? I mean even in terms of her being a selfish b-… he needs the other car to get to work right? wouldn’t it benefit her for him to be able to work so she can like.. cheat on him behind his back and take all his money afterwards or something? xD

Pecunium- I haven’t quite decided yet :) I mean, living near Chicago, I assumed I could kind of get in to being either. I know someone at Honeywell, actually, who could help me get a job with them, and they do a ton of stuff w/ mfg in Germany. I was going to decide that once I *got* my degree, as it’s been 4 years since I was even working towards anything >.< It's sort of up in the air. I always leave room for the possibility of either.

Ami- FoSB and I share a car- cause the one I'd bought back in 06 died a hard death this past February, and I couldn't afford to replace it. It's fortunate, because he gets a government vehicle for his job, so all I ever have to do is drop him off at work. But it's still a real pain for someone used to having their own car. If he didn't have the guv, it'd be a lot less convenient. I would never, ever voluntary give up having my own car again. I like to think most people are logical like that. And they probably are- MRAs just assume the worst in every woman.

…wouldn’t it benefit her for him to be able to work…

Don’t you get it Ami, women are just so irrational. We’re even inept at being selfish. :D

Yes, this video is ok, but his video titled “CASEY ANTHONY’S LAW CAREER !” is much better.

Hey, he even has a website…

http://www.menwhoareabused.com/

Well not the finest web design imaginable, but still a classic website, not some lazy blog everybody can make (like Futrelle)!

Ok, sorry, I don’t want to blame you, it’s not you fault…

because long gone are the days where it was possible to make your self-designed website without a five-year training as a web developer.

Ah, the golden years…

With the font-tag…

and tables…

So easy & clear… stupid CSS.

I wonder if some of the MRAs, like the guy who made this video, secretly believe that it’s better to be in a bad relationship than to be alone. It would explain why this guy isn’t breaking up with the so obviously selfish woman.

Hey, what’d CSS ever do to you, huh? No need to use shaming language!

Yes, of course, though we have CSS now, you can still use tables :-D … but if you do, the CSS nazis will come and spam you how floating boxes are better and easier for layout and about separation of content and presentation… or something like that.

EWME: In the above scenario, the lady in question is not only demanding luxury items at the gentleman’s detriment she is demanding he change his life to accommodate her wants and needs and accusing him of what she is doing (being uncaring and selfish.)

In my situation, I am not asking anyone to do anything they do not want to do, I do not make the claim that if this person “loved me” the person would do it, and I make sure I let them know in time for the person to make a fully informed decision. If the person says no, I may be unhappy because I liked the person but I do not tell them they are a bad person for not being willing to make the kind of sacrifices my career requires.

Really, Marc? And I only think such nice thoughts about you. All the time. Mmmmmm, can’t stop thinking about Marc.

*files nails into points*

Bee: don’t forget to put your thumbs on backwards

Ami: at the video-maker’s website, there’s puh-lenty of poorly photo-shopped images of women covered in (presumably) men’s blood. I’m sort of excited to see this develop.

Can you imagine if a site on domestic abuse of women was plastered with images of menacing, blood-covered men?

@Holly- in my head, the MRAs are sort of like a bunch of boys embroiled in a game like capture the flag, or a Nerf gun fight, or something, against The Feminists. And they’ve got all these ideas in their head of what The Feminist’s tree fort looks like, in spite of never having been there. And, like little boys will, they sit there and make up more and more outrageous stories of all the weird, stupid, terrible things that JUST HAVE TO be in the girl’s fort, cause ew, girls are icky and alien. But if you were to actually tell them that, no, the inside of our fort *isn’t* full of the severed fingers and toes of our enemies, and no, we aren’t trying to beat you and make you wear frilly pink dresses and high heels to embarrass you when you lose*, they would and do cover their ears and go “LALALALA NO CAN’T HEAR YOU”, because they are way happier with their little summer-camp style battle and just staying in their own smelly tree fort.

*Unless they are into either wearing frilly pink dresses for fun (yeah, kickass!), or into being embarrassed, there is nothing wrong, and a lot good, with either/both.

I think the split enters where this is probably not a real relationship, and it’s a not-meant-to-be-funny parody where the author/creator is trying to be like “SEE ALL WOMEN ARE EVIL!”. Whereas if it was actually someone speaking candidly about being in an abusive relationship, or documenting it? That’s where concern would come in, and we’d be saying “Please seek the help of a DV center or shelter.”, or something like that.

I also feel that you can be in a relationship with a selfish asshole of either gender where it doesn’t cross a line into abuse. Not to mention the fact that the author’s website is full of photoshopped images of women covered in blood. I’m much less likely to take him seriously because of that, too.

I get what you’re saying, chocominties, but and I’m right there with you, but I’d add that there’s a world of grays in between those two options. Like, gaslighting. Or verbal abuse. Subtle putdowns that make one party feel like the other person is doing them a favor by allowing them to stay in the relationship, since they’re obviously such a horrible person that no one else would want them. Or when the abuser makes hirself seem like the victim, and the victim seem like a horrible monster if xie left (in fewer words: emotional abuse).

The creator of the video kind of tried to include that element, I think, but did it in such a ham-fisted way that it’s hard to buy that this is a case of emotional abuse, not just a case of two idiots living in a house together.

Hey David, do you think you could include a link to the forum at the top or something? Nobody can find it here because the only link to it is in that one post.

What about Pecunium, his main squeeze? :D

Oh, no, Pecunium is not my main squeeze… no, no… how I imagine him?

… like that:

I had a quick glance at the website. Seems like it’s a guy who may have been in an abusive relationship who has set up a space for people to talk about similar problems. I didn’t see any misogyny or “all women are like this” kind of stuff (though I didn’t spend much time looking).

And I liked the “loser” bit of the video. That was funny.

Crap…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecunium/2091534248/in/set-72157605982702933

If it’s true that the guy who made this video really was a victim of abuse, then I’ll take back what I said before. But he ought to be aware that treating his experience like a big joke makes it that much harder for people to take him seriously.