Career women: A crime against nature?
She's trouble!
Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)
a) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.
b) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.
c) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.
d) A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.
ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.
In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:
Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.
Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?
Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:
It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.
Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:
Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.
Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:
When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.
Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:
[T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.
Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.
Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:
The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.
Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.
The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”
Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.
Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!
Posted on June 24, 2011, in alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, douchebaggery, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 1,021 Comments.
@AWS:
http://www.gorilla-haven.org/ghspecial.htm
I love cooking xD And I’m rly good at it >:3 (esp at Chinese food) it’s either b/c of or despite my genetics xD
if nebody would like to share recipes or something sometime i’d def be up for that :3
i’m a fan of Ami pride! :D
@Ami:
As would I, I need more things to cook so I don’t die of boredom with pasta during the school year. -__- Pereferably either few ingredients or few dishes would be nice.
pasta is about to get expensive now :| (or expensiver)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/pasta-price-may-surge-as-swamped-north-dakota-cuts-durum-supply.html
this is of course part of the feminist-zionist conspiracy xD
AWS, I said that my social skills “haven’t” garnered me 1,000 friends on the internet. See the apostrophe? That makes the word a contraction. Have + not = haven’t. Reading comprehension, indeed.
Why is anyone posting here? It’s late, you’re hilarious. I’m an insomniac.
The children I work with are not my friends. They’re my scouts. My friends are adults who like to do things, see movies, talk politics, and drink beer. My scouts are 6 -9 year olds who like to talk about The Transformers movie and Mario Cart. Not the same thing at all.
I don’t believe that I ever said what it is I do for living. But I do find it fulfilling and I do work for myself.
I’m a great cook. And a feminist. And I cook for my man, all the time. Does the ghostnation site, have its own psychic, or did you make that prediction using a magic 8 ball?
Google has a post up about my reading skills? Where? Show me the links? How far back do they go?
See you keep saying feminism = sadism, but you haven’t been able to prove it. Saying it over and over again does not, in fact, make it more true. Women can be violent but not all women are feminists. So, links to women that are violent proves only that women can be perpetrators of violence. Which makes sense because humans can be perpetrators of violence and women are human.
“There’s a lot of “white pride” stuff on ghostnation”
and a lot of black pride on black planet. theghostnation.com has many races that post.
i am an anti-feminist and that is why i like the site. Do you consider yourself white pride David?
Hey Pecunium, if you’re around, can you list all the things you’ve done/like to do/are good at/have training in/etc? :O
obv not like a super detailed list… vbut i need it for your card concept :3
@All:
Holy crap you guys, things are about to get much weirder.
Why all porn is gay
So apparently, homosexual doesn’t mean liking the same sex, as its name would imply, it is sex or promescuity outside of love and/or procreation. So, therefore, if you have sex without making babies, you are gay. If you have sex, and you love your partner, not gay. So a bunch of gay couples? Actually not gay!
White Pride David sounds like an Alternate Universe card design xD
He also sounds scary o_o
tho in the AU, this would be some sort of anti-racism mockery site xD and Anti-Oppression Activist Lieutenant and NWOmaster would be the brave heroes trying to defeat David xD
@Ami:
So, the tagline for his blog wouldn’t be “Racism, I mock it.” It would be “Races, I mock them.”
Kirbywarp, the bread recipe looks pretty good. I am, admittedly, a pretty mediocre baker. Baking is chemistry. But it looks very easy to follow. And to you and Ami, am I completely up for sharing recipes. I can make a fairly traditional fried rice, using chinese sausage, and left-over rice, etc. And I roast green beans in a fair approximation of the szechuan style with garlic sauce. But I’d love more recipes and techniques. What kind of recipes are you interested in making, kirby?
Ami, I think you’re going to need at least half a dozen cards for Pecunium.
Someone please tell me that AWS is a meta troll…cos seriously who can think this stuff? I’ve read crazed MRAs at length but the epic stupidity in AWS’s posts is just unfreaking believable.
@Johnny Pez >_> shush
@Nobinayamu:
Honestly, anything tasty. I am looking for more simple, since, you know, still a student and all, but I do need to cut back a little on my meat intake.. Hmm… I guess whatever tastes good, and is more healthy than non? I think its the sorta thing where once you start it gets easier and easier to do.
“I’m an insomniac.”
You mean a feminist insomniac.
“They’re my scouts.”
You own them? they are yours to do whatever you please with them? name the troop and i will have you removed as their cult leader.
“drink beer.”
You have a beer belly? You probably drink beer with 9 year olds.
“I don’t believe that I ever said what it is I do for living.”
You spam blogs for a living?
“I’m a great cook. ”
If so you would not have your boyfriend cook. it’s clear you are a vulgar feminist.
“Google has a post up about my reading skills?”
Yup, they have an ap. It’s on theghostnation.com
Feminism = sadism check out this website: http://www.henrymakow.ca
i have proved my points here. You offer nothing. No research and no debating skills. Why are you directing boys in cub scouts? You are female right?
Kirbywarp, do you have regular access to a reasonable kitchen, or are you cooking strictly dorm-style; hot-plate, microwave, etc?
@Lyn:
I have no idea how even a meta-troll could keep up for this long… Seriously.. I mean, he still hasn’t confirmed, but I think he might be the guy who wrote this. Are we under the control of a satanist cult, a conspiracy theory to monstrous to believe? The answer may surprise you.
Yes.. Yes we are.
Ami: Tomorrow, I have to get some sleep now.
Lyn, this guy is amazing! Did you see the feminist definition list?
@Nobinayamu:
I’ve got a reasonable kitchen, actually. Stove, plus my own pan, pot with steamer, and various other stuff like spatulas and knives. The dorm I’m at also has a big wok and rice cookers, which is kinda awesome. I haven’t been big on using the rice cookers though, since I’m not used to it yet.
Cashew Chicken
Ingredients:
1 boneless, skinless chicken breast, diced
1 small green pepper, chopped into squares
1 cup diced, peeled celery
5 slices of ginger
1/2 cup unsalted cashew nuts
1 tsp baking soda
Marinade:
1 tsp cornstarch
1/2 tsp Chinese cooking wine
Sauce:
1/2 tbsp oyster sauce
3/4 tsp soy sauce
3 tbsp water
dash of black pepper
1/2 tsp Chinese cooking wine
1/8 tsp sesame oil
1. Marinade the diced chicken breast in the baking soda for 20 minutes and then rinse the chicken clean of the baking soda.
2. Pat dry the chicken with paper towels and then marinate it in the cornstarch and chinese cooking wine for another 20 minutes.
3. Mix the sauce ingredients together and set aside.
4. On high heat, heat up 1 tbsp of cooking oil in a wok, and then stir fry the chicken breast until it is half cooked. Set aside.
5. Heat up another tbsp of cooking oil and add in the green peppers, celery and ginger and stir fry until you smell the peppery aroma of the peppers.
6. Add the chicken back in and then the cashew nuts and do a few more stirs.
7. Add in the sauce and stir fry until chicken is fully cooked. Dish out and eat :D
All of your points are illogical AWSo…what type of drugs are you using again?
This one is pretty easy since you just throw everything together after you have the ingredients xD I used to make it all the time for a simple supper (well simple for me, I have these ingredients around a lot xD )
Ami’s Vegetarian Fujian Tofu
Ingredients:
1 1/2 cup frozen peas
1/2 can broken straw mushrooms
1/2 can shitake mushrooms (you can use soaked dry or fresh shitake mushrooms too, but the can ones work best for this recipe), thinly sliced (bout 6-8 mushrooms)
1/3 cup thinly diced brocolli or chinese brocolli stems
1lb/454g/16oz block of medium firm tofu, cut into small cubes
Sauce:
1 1/2 cup vegetable or chicken stock
1 tbsp cornstarch
1 1/2 tsp oyster sauce
1 tsp soy sauce
1/4 tsp sesame oil
1. mix the sauce ingredients together and set aside
2. bring about 1/4 cup water in a medium saucepan to boil and add in peas, both mushrooms and brocolli stem
3. cover and let steam until peas have hydrated, then add in tofu and let stand for a few more minutes (if the water starts running out, add a little more)
4. add in sauce, and stir well, let simmer for 5 minutes
5. Done! Eat :D
@Pecunium no rush :3 I think I have most of it down neways :3
“Yes.. Yes we are.”
Talk to me in ten years kirby. You will be divorced or working for the government as a shill. i suggest you work for the cia. they need a few cover-up artists. Anti-feminist will build cool stuff which you and your heterophobe ilk will try and break.
That’s just plain wrong… I alrdy promised him that I wouldn’t divorce him until 11 years later >_>
xD
@AWS:
Actually, I was thinking more NSA. They have more of the techno-stuff I’m jonesing for. Serious question though. Are you Henry Makow, or was the link just you throwing up a smoke screen, and we can’t know for sure that you are actually an anti-feminist?
Why are 56% of working mothers unsatisfied with their career?
http://www.workmercs.com/2011/05/why-are-56-percent-of-working-mothers-unsatisfied-with-their-career/
@Ami:
You said 12! 12!!! That’s it, I can’t trust you, we’re through.
@Ami again:
Sadly, tofu is also kinda a no-no for me, really don’t like the taste.. But thanks for the chicken recipe, maybe my chicken won’t taste like terrible anymore :P
This is v tasty tofu tho! :3 it’s not like a tofu burger or nething… i promise
ASW, well, yes. I’m a feminist. And an insomniac. So, sure, I’m a feminist insomniac. What ever floats your boat.
I don’t own them; I’m their scout leader. Most scout leaders refer to their troop as “their scouts” or, at leader meetings “our scouts.” It isn’t proprietary so much as declarative. And, um, going back and forth with you on the internet is cool and all, but I’m not going to name my our troops number or location for you. Not because I think you could have me removed but because -all kidding aside- you seem mentally unstable. I’m not going to risk the well being of the children I work with.
I mentioned specifically that my adult friends like to drink beer. I guess the “drink beer with 9 year olds” thing was your attempt at being clever? Okay then. I’m sure your 1,000 internet friends think you’re hilarious.
You can get paid to spam internet blogs? Why am I only just now finding out about this. I feel a career change coming on.
I cook for my boyfriend and he cooks for me. We cook for each other. Cooking is vulgar too?
I read that. It doesn’t prove that feminism = sadism. Apart from being unstable, I don’t think you know what the word “proof” means. Allow me to redirect you to http://www.dictionary.com Your vocabulary words for the evening are: proof, feminist, and woman.
I am directing boys in cub scouts because my father has been a Scout master and leader for more than 15 years and when he needed another co-leader to work with cub scouts, none of the men at our family church were interested. I am a female.
@Kirbywarp you can’t break up w/ me!
*looks around in desperation*
HE RAPED ME!!!!
THROW HIM IN JAIL!
@AWS:
Did you actually read the article you linked to? It answers your question, or at least offers a suggestion. And it has to do with the social and corporate pressures put on women that us feminists are trying to fight.
@Nobinayamu I own my scouts… what’s wrong with you!? xD What kind of a feminist are you? >:|
I know for sure you are feminist which is why i have been here so long. As far as the NSA goes only join if you want to carry out false flag operations such as 9/11. Problem is the economy will be collapsed by then. I suggest you work for Obongo on his reelection.
Ami, that recipe for cashew chicken looks amazing. I’m copying it, and breaking out my wok. Kirby, have you ever made risotto? You mentioned wanting to eat less meat.
@AWS:
Not the question I asked. Are you Henry Makow, or not? If not, where are the links that show you are actually an anti-feminist? :P
I did read the list – still shaking my head over it. Sooo contradictory. I will say though, Kirby, that link certainly does have similar leaps of *logic*!
@Nobinayamu:
Sorta. Though I don’t think I made it right, judging from internet pictures. :P Do you know of a good/simple recipe I could try out? (The simple is more of a “well, I need to start somewhere” thing)
Also, if anyone wants to try to make pizza dough, this is the one I’ve been using.
http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/homemade_pizza/
Just the dough portion. I once hosted a study break where we made a huge batch of dough, then had people choose toppings to put on. It was a lot of fun, made better by the fact that I actually have a pizza stone. ^__^ Not only is it useful for pizza, but it’s great for making crispy bread as well.
“I’m not going to risk the well being of the children I work with.:
Then you would resign as their leader. You referred to them as “my” which is a term abusers use. They are not yours. You do not own them and you should not be leading boys anywhere nor should you be responsible for their safety. I would have you removed. i am not the one leading 9 year olds anywhere. You are not fit to supervise children.
“he cooks for me”
Of course he does. feminists are lousy cooks. So what do you do for a living besides drink beer with kids?
No way did you read savethemales.ca as their is thousands of articles. http://www.rense.com/general61/freem.htm
As to why many working mums aren’t satisfied – I’d guess it has something to do with the fact that they often have to do LOTS more work (second shift of housework and childcare) than their male counterparts.
“none of the men at our family church”
Find another church.
Also? I love how, out of all the accusations AWS made (AWS, you haven’t responded to my critique of the article you cited. Do you still think it supports your case, and if so, do you think you should take some reading comprehension courses?), the cooking one is the one that led to this fun divergent conversation. I love this blog.
Lyn, not to counter your excellent points, but I’m guessing that most people are probably unsatisfied with their jobs.
@AWS:
“No way did you read savethemales.ca as their is thousands of articles.”
No way did you read feministe, for the same reason. So… what does that prove, eh? Also, stop with the lousy quoting. You quote the middle of a sentence, cutting out the context that would answer your accusation, like the cooking thing. Don’t tell me you’re adding “disgustingly dishonest” to your list of fine debating tactics?
How am I not suprised?
you were emailed that by mgtow kirby. read all makow’s articles. have you engaged in rectal sex? If so you are a sadist and a perfect candidate to help carry out false flag operations such as 9/11. please work with obongo and join him in his “basketball” workouts. i hear they are very oral.
“No way did you read feministe”
Skimmed the article titles and clicked on a few articles in each section. More so then you have feminist shill.
@AWS:
Wait, what? I get mgtow e-mails now? What the hell? Why wasn’t I informed of this?
Also, I don’t engage in anal sex. *shrug* But doing so doesn’t make you gay, and I cite the famous “doing your girlfriend in the ass” precident. You really don’t understand what homo (same) sexual means, do you?
Also, why exactly must I read all of your articles, when you clearly read none of mine, and don’t even read half of your own? Do I have to debunk every article you can drudge up before getting you to provide proof for your own assertion?
AWA – my partner and I bonded over cooking and sharing recipes. He was raised in an Italian household and knew lots of nifty stuff…and I love to bake and cook and he has been an avid appreciator of my baking in particular. We’ve learned how to be better cooks from one another. It has been a delicious experience. :)
And Kirby I’m trying to think of simple recipes and my brain just isn’t complying!
I’ve eaten at thousands of restaurants by that logic xD I saw their restaurant sign! Sometimes I even skim the menus! xD
I should write restaurant reviews :3
@AWS:
Skimmed the article titles and clicked on a few articles in each section. At your makow site and at your nuthouse.. hoghouse? forum as well. Hooray. Are we even now?
“they often have to do LOTS more work (s”
I rarely see women put in 14 hour work days like men do routinely.
Sorry, AWS
@AWS:
Still giggling over this. I even directly linked to and summed up two of the articles at your makow website. More than you, you conspiratorial shill.
I am an excellent scout leader. I regularly attend meetings and training sessions. My certifications are all up to date with Boys Scouts of America. And as I’ve been doing it for more than 3 years now, I think they know more about whether or not I’m fit to lead, than you do. I was even given an award last spring by the council in my city.
Keep telling yourself that feminists can’t cook. I cook very well, and I’m a feminist, so you have to be wrong. My boyfriend and I cook for each other. I cook for him and he cooks for me. And it’s fantastic.
A family church is not a place that you just leave. It is our family church. My parents were married there, my sisters and I were all christened and baptized there, my grandmother is a deaconess, my grandfather -before he passed- was a deacon. As a child, I sang in the choir there, and both my parents have been scouting leaders for the troops based out of our church for more than 40 years combined. Now, I am not religious, but I have a tremendous amount of respect for family church both as an institution and as a part of our community.
There has never been any reason to find another church. Especially since it provides me such an excellent opportunity to be of service.
i’m amused by the cutting off of the bracket there xD he’s almost becoming me w/ the meta awareness xD (Ami the infectious infects again! :3 )
How many women do you know, AWS?
But doing so doesn’t make you gay,
Sure does. It’s a sadistic ritual. You have shown you are completely brainwashed and a perfect candidate for government work especially in false flag operations.
Also, I read the Henry Makow essay on how all non-procreative, non-monogamous, heterosexual sex was essentially just homosexual sex. I disagree.
619 comments! :3 the last thread that was near 1000 almost got to it but stopped short :(
this one looks good tho! :D we have awesome fertilizer here xD
Nobinayamu – totes. I was wondering how many working fathers are completely satisfied with their jobs but couldn’t be bothered looking it up. Between us we’ll make an UNBEATABLE argument…that AWS won’t understand anyway…
It’ll be fun though!
i’m shocked he kept the L in there xD
@AWS:
Alright, give me a straight (snicker) answer, please. Does homosexual mean “having sex with somone of the same gender?” (Don’t get me started on sadistic rituals, go bug holly if you really need to get topped)
Nobinayamu | June 25, 2011 at 2:55 am
Also, I read the Henry Makow essay on how all non-procreative, non-monogamous, heterosexual sex was essentially just homosexual sex. I disagree.
Why? It’s true xD We’re advancing further and further xD Soon, ALL sexual acts will be homosexual sex, procreation or not xD
Oh, riiiight, anal sex is just inherently sadistic. Why is that – because it’s not for makin’ babies?
I think we should just replace these outdated terms w/ Amisexual :D
@Lyn:
Pretty much. I’ll bet if you have PiV sex, and it doesn’t result in a pregnancy, that is also gay sex. And sadistic.
since we all know everybody wants me neways xD