Career women: A crime against nature?
She's trouble!
Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)
a) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.
b) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.
c) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.
d) A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.
ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.
In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:
Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.
Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?
Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:
It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.
Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:
Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.
Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:
When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.
Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:
[T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.
Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.
Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:
The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.
Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.
The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”
Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.
Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!
Posted on June 24, 2011, in alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, douchebaggery, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 1,021 Comments.
@Lyn
Being a home owner and doing all my own stuff I can honestly say you’re insane. 4.77 hours a day. Are you staring at the washer and dryer as the spin?
Do you run thru the house knocking everything over? Are you throwing nightly parties? WOW!
I hate feminism because it paints in too broad strokes. When Sally says “women do 2/3s of the work” the implication is clear that we’re supposed to see women as all being oppressed and men as lazy fat privileged asswipes. Work in credits. Most men work fucking hard, a lot work harder than women, some of whom are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks.
MRAL, do you even see your logical fallacy? You accuse feminism of “painting in broad strokes.” Of generalizing, I presume, And then you write “Most men work fucking hard, a lot work harder than women, some of whom are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks.”
Do you see what did you there?
If not, I’ve got to say I have better luck getting things across to my preschoolers.
@Jumbofish
I’ve lost a debate because………
Ahhhhh, I see, because y’all said so.
Welp, it’s been a long day and I got another whiz bang one comin up tommorow, along with my 4.77 hours of cleaning.
Continue on with the mutual admiration party. Make up some feminist the gathering cards. Mock men. Correct grammar, and do all those fun things you love.
NWO, you live alone, have no children, and probably have low standards for cleanliness and meals.
People with children do an awful lot of housework. People who care about how their homes look and feel and make the bulk of their meals from scratch, do an awful lot of housework.
Comparing your rate of housework to someone else’s is as stupid as suggesting that everyone should dress like you in baggy t-shirts and khaki shorts. Some of us like to keep a nice home and don’t think that being poorly dressed is a virtue.
I hate feminism because it paints in too broad strokes.
Citation needed. What ‘broad strokes’ do you see? Why are they overly broad? Would you be content with a narrowly focused feminism? What would that look like to you?
When Sally says “women do 2/3s of the work” the implication is clear that we’re supposed to see women as all being oppressed and men as lazy fat privileged asswipes.
Maybe that’s what you got out of it, but it’s not what I got out of it. The implication I got was that this isn’t fair, and that there should probably be some social restructuring to fix it. Also – what if it’s *true*? What if it is wholly and completely accurate that, worldwide, women do 2/3 of the work that makes civilization go? Imagine that you are actually living in a world where women do 2/3 of the work, much of it unpaid or underpaid.
Work in credits. Most men work fucking hard, a lot work harder than women, some of whom are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks.
Remember when you were railing against Islam, and you got a lot of shit for singling out Islam and giving Christianity, Judaism, and other hegemonic or destructive religions a pass? And some people here said that they thought all religions were bad and Islam really wasn’t a special case?
The same principle applies here. Both men and women work hard. Both men and women are capable of being lazy. Sometimes, someone can work hard on one day and then be lazy the next. Sometimes people go through periods in their life where they are lazy and then work hard. You can’t single out women for being lazy without also acknowledging that men are lazy.
Also, anyone ever told you about ‘confirmation bias’? If you see a woman not doing anything, you file it in your head with ‘aha! I was right! Women are lazy!’ But if you see a woman working hard, you dismiss it as an anomaly.
You might also want to try Googling ‘Fundamental Attribution Error.’ Changed my perspective on a lot of things when I learned about that.
Yeah, some men are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks as well. People are capable of being lazy or industrious. The issue is not gendered.
Well you gave up plenty and went on to self flagellation, doesn’t that count?
Oh and the self flagellation is part of your formula when you lose…
Congrats you have officially lost
whoops lost again I mean
I was gonna say that most of these MRAs have the mental capacity of a brick wall but then i would be insulting brick walls ;P
I’m leaving. This is stupid.
I’m so amused that this is yet another example of NWO obsessively reading the person he claims he can’t read at all xD and doesn’t care baout! but he’s all gushy about the magyc cards xD (and knows enuf to call it Feminist: The Gathering too xD which shows there IS a fun loving geek inside him! like I suspected XDD I keep trying to bring it up but he keeps doing the |:< face xDD but the Rodeo Cat will get it out of him.. I mean I alrdy got him out of his shell before.. wrt to smileys and I NEVER READ YOU xDDD it's hard to ignore teh Ami :3 )
It’s just like Bee said… Magyc: The Gendering is something MRAs and Feminists all love and can’t get enuf of XDDD even rad fems and MGTOW! <3
I’m leaving. This is stupid.
Sucks to be called out, doesn’t it? Maybe if you actually had reality-based arguments, you’d find that sort of thing happening to you less and less.
NWO, back to work a 28 hour shift at a job that only exists because of government dairy subsidies.
You’d think some university would just be chomping at the bit to have him teach, Multivariable Integral Calculus or something. But, alas, the evil feminist conspiracy is keeping him “slaving” away at a job he clearly hates for a mere $40,000 annually.
I hate Men’s Rights Activism because it paints in too broad strokes. When MRAL says “A lot of men (read: me) work a lot harder than anyone else I know, and that includes these supposed Atlas women.” the implication is clear that we’re supposed to see men as all being oppressed and women as lazy fat privileged asswipes. Work in credits. Most women work fucking hard, a lot work harder than men, some of whom are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks.
@ mral
for real this time?
or will it be like that time you said you would leave for a couple months and came back in a week?
@Jumbofish That fucker MRAL is like a boomerang no matter how far you throw, he keeps fuckin coming back damnit!
@Jumbofish they never leave when they say they’re done arguing or they can’t change our minds, cuz they just CAN’T HELP finding out what we said about them xD It’s like their version of Gossip Girl or w/e xD
@Ami
Oh, the bathroom. We had separate ones in that relationship, and kept them at a pretty similarly low level of cleanliness, but he spent plenty of time complaining about how dirty mine was, and when I said that maybe he just shouldn’t go in there if it bothered him so much, he had to huff off about how he liked using my hair dryer. Oh, teh wimminz, so vain. ;)
I mean, we evolved to CLEAN BATHROOMS? Is that what we were doing while men were out hunting the mammoth? That is some serious bullshit right there!
If you are still doing magyc cards, I would now officially like one about how I evolved to vacuum and clean bathrooms, if I may. Because clearly that and childcare is the only reason I’m here on the planet! :)
Men’s Rights Activist Boomerang Herpes Neverleave Lieutenant.
@ Sally LOLZ!
This is kinda on topic (about women being superficial spendypants on clothing) and since I talk about Star Wars all the time xD
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pic-99939.html
(it’s not hentai.. and it’s work safe)
I just find this so cute and amusing xD (and it proves that women are just the same as NWO believes in the Star Wars uni too! *GASP* >:O he can use that as proof now XD LOOK LOOK!)
Actually, if I’m right and you’re wrong then that means you’re wrong about me being a misandrist fymynyst.
I’m not misandrist because I don’t hate men, only assholes. It’s not my fault if you think that man = asshole.
I’m not a fymynyst because there’s no such thing (except in MRAL’s fevered imagination).
I may be an asswipe though. But I don’t care because I’m RIGHT about a lot of things, because I LOOK THEM UP before spouting off with my opinion! Whereas you are mostly wrong about things because unlike me, you are LAZY.
I currently live in a lower middle class majority black neighborhood, which, by NWOracist standards, probably counts as the ghetto. :)
Moving on to other topics, I wonder who is supposed to be targeted by things like this: ” are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew.” As a genderqueer borderline intersexed person, statements trying to gender shame me have little effect. I can’t imagine that “career women” (that is such a 50s term), if they were actually as described above, would give a rats ass about what some random dude thinks about their level of femininity and their “purpose”.
(PS, Ami, if you make me a Magyc card, feel free to make “some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew” my description. ;) )
@Darksidecat I have the perfect idea for that >:3
“Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers?”
Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?
“That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it?”
Never met and career woman that has been good at her job. In fact career women are usually the worst at their jobs.
“That they want to make a difference in the world?”
Fact is the collapse of the USA financially was caused by female managers and feminist male CEO’s.
“That they might have a family to support?’
Kids hate career women. Dads are much more supportive.
“Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?’
Women are the worst creatures in the world to do business with.
“careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:”
Correct
“imagining themselves as the heroines’
That is about all they can do as men are the real heroes.
“Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies”
The poor economic condition of the USA is a direct result of female managers. there is nothing uglier then a career woman.
It does strike me as weird that a career driven woman would be the one that they hate the most as they would be more inclined to tell the guy to get lost after sex and is that not what these men want to do?
Oh I forgot, MEN get to tell women to get lost, the return is not allowed.
Hey, MRAL flounced without answering my question!
In case he’s still lurking: my proposition was at least semi-serious. Come down and take primary care of my house and kids while I’m recovering from surgery. It’s a perfect social experiment (and not unlike those ridiculous trading-family-members shows).
I live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood. And hey, I even live in on of the friendliest areas of the country – less chance of being spit on!
I want a stay at home trophy husband…granted my idea of a trophy is kind of weird.
Is it just me, or are trolls these days getting lazier? It’s like, if you really want to provoke us, stop retreading all the same ole MRM woman-hating lines that we’ve all heard a zillion times before. Blah blah blah, women are stinky and I hate them blah blah.
No points for difficulty, execution, or artistry. I’m really in a generous mood tonight. Just give me something to work with.
Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?
Citation needed.
Never met and career woman that has been good at her job. In fact career women are usually the worst at their jobs.
Citation needed.
Fact is the collapse of the USA financially was caused by female managers and feminist male CEO’s.
Citation needed.
Kids hate career women. Dads are much more supportive.
Citation needed.
Women are the worst creatures in the world to do business with.
Citation needed.
“careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:”
Correct
Citation needed.
That is about all they can do as men are the real heroes.
Citation needed.
The poor economic condition of the USA is a direct result of female managers. there is nothing uglier then a career woman.
Citation needed.
I’m leaving. This is stupid.
No, wait, you can’t!
Oh…never mind.
Hello Aws.
MRA trolls are like the heads of the Hydra; cut one off and three more take its place.
BTW:
Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?
So what you’re saying is that men are terrible at making hiring decisions, and will give an unqualified, incompetent person a position of power in exchange for a few sessions of oral sex? Or that men are incapable of making reasoned decisions in the face of sexual gratification? Men lose all cognitive ability in the face of blowjobs?
I think that’s the most misandrist, man-hating thing I’ve read on this entire thread.
These trolls just dance on command for y’all, don’t they.
Dance, trolls, dance!
Shaenon, that’s my favorite Mr. Show skit evar!
Runner-up is the one about the two young people and their companions.
Congratulations to New York for doing the right thing.
Bee | June 24, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Is it just me, or are trolls these days getting lazier? It’s like, if you really want to provoke us, stop retreading all the same ole MRM woman-hating lines that we’ve all heard a zillion times before. Blah blah blah, women are stinky and I hate them blah blah.
They are… xD i think they think this upsets us or something xD if nething this just gives me more card fodder!
Makes you want to hug someone…*sings New York, New York off key*
I suspect NWO is rly angry right now and is either screaming some place or will show up tonite or tmrw with some angrily sarcastic thingie about how the feminist queer agenda state has done it and how happy we prolly all are and how we’re supporting pedophilia by cheering gay marriage on xD
Surely anything that increases the marriage rate is OK by NWO?
Good point, Magpie. And it benefits lots of men too!
Although I suspect the fact that the new law also will benefit stinky women is enough to cancel out any man-points.
It’s weird. I’m super happy about the law — and immediately my mind goes to how much more work there is to be done.
he doesn’t care about the marriage rates… just the amount of divorces per 1000 people (not married people) and the more ppl being married, the more chances there WILL be a divorce xD and he will be upset :\ he knows every time there is a divorce, a kitten dies :\ and a feminist hatches o_o
I really like the part about the recession being caused by female managers and feminized CEOs. Methinks someone has not been around any C-suites or investment bankers. Calling them them retrograde is an understatement.
Nice try, lil’ troll.
Just to spell things out for NWO here – 4.77 hours a day includes: grocery shopping, cooking, preparing food, planning meals and not just doing the laundry. I also calculated it off of a 5 day work week rather than 7 days – at 7 days a week it would be 3.4 hours daily (this might be more understandable – doing dishes and cooking a meal usually takes me upwards of an hour every single day and that’s just for me and my partner). You might have neglected to notice that I was also going off of someone elses list of what someone would have to do to keep a house properly tidy (you know, the kindof tidy when you have small children who put everything in their mouths?), not actually what I do. MRAL gave a guesstimate of how long each activity would take and surmised that this was not much time at all – so I added it up to demonstrate that it was actually a significant chunk of time. Doing all of the washing, cooking, child-minding etc. for a family would take a lot of time – stay at home mothers (and fathers) are not lazy. Note too, that keeping your house tidy just for you is not the same as keeping a house tidy/doing the laundry etc. when you have to do it for a whole freaking family. This should be evident. You are (still) a moron. Try reading things before commenting on them.
“MRA trolls are like the heads of the Hydra; cut one off and three more take its place.”
There are no MRA’s that post here. Only feminists and anti-feminists. i am an anti-feminist as defined by theghostnation.com Name me a legitimate MRA on the Internet? There are none.
Mgtow are 100 times below the feminists and the ghetto of the Internet. There is no more disgusting misogynist group then mgtow.
“So what you’re saying is that men are terrible at making hiring decisions”
Yes, when it involves women. Women become managers and they systematically run anti-feminist men out. Once the good men are out the corporation crashes but not before women ensure total fascism in the work place. Just look at the shape the USA is in financially. The USA’s dire financial condition is a direct result of feminism.
“Men lose all cognitive ability in the face of blowjobs?”
Feminist men do.
Career women are rotten and bad for business and the sadists planned this all along.
The future of America is that it will be run by females so expect it to collapse into severe fascism. The only thing that can stop the collapse is the Internet and putting school on the Internet for free.
Men do not love women they are competing with. Women can’t naturally compete with men so the sadists enact unnatural anti-male laws that hurt the economy. Feminism is unnatural and sadistic.
Make blowjobs affordable by legalizing prostitution is my answer to that disgusting SNL video.
Disclaimer:
There will be spelling mistakes in my posts so deal with it punks.
Did you just confuse Mr. Show with SNL?
Spelling errors I can deal with, but if you just confused Mr. Show with SNL, somebody better hold me back.
HOLD ME BACK, I SAY!!!
I’m sorry, did you just deride MGTOW for being misogynist and then accuse career women of being incapable to do their jobs properly…because they’re women?
I don’t know. I’m just one of those uppity women who got an education because of blow jobs (or something) but that doesn’t seem like very good logic to me.
Great minds, etc. etc. I owe Spearhafoc a Coke!
Somebody is touchy xD
“I really like the part about the recession being caused by female managers and feminized CEOs.”
http://tinyurl.com/jsfod
Not-so-good year for female CEOs
This is going to go down as a miserable year for female CEOs of Fortune 500 companies.
http://tinyurl.com/2cpos2
Failed start-up landed among scandals’ debris
http://tinyurl.com/6cblvpn
It was the corporate collapse that appeared to come out of nowhere. In late 2001, the Enron Corporation—a darling of the financial world, a company whose executives were friends of presidents and the powerful—imploded virtually overnight, leaving vast wreckage in its wake and sparking a criminal investigation that would last for years. But for all that has been written about the Enron debacle, no one has yet to re-create the full drama of what has already become a near-mythic American tale.
“Did you just confuse Mr. Show with SNL?”
What is the difference?
“I’m sorry, did you just deride MGTOW for being misogynist and then accuse career women of being incapable to do their jobs properly…because they’re women?”
No, you just did. Feminist women and feminist men are who I am talking about. Feminism, Zionism, and sadism are interchangeable words.
Mgtow are misogynists and sadists who are mostly males. manbooz are uber feminists male and female.
We’re Zionists? xDDDD
“I’m just one of those uppity women who got an education”
What do you do for a living? What do you produce? Feminists actually devolve the more college they get. Did you even watch the video? It is all men. Women do the same thing only they carry strap-ons to work.
It’s like NWOslaveLite (TM), except with even worse taste in entertainment choices. For shame, not knowing the classics! It is to weep.
So … you like sadism, I guess? The last one of you had this thing for feet.
@AWS:
So promoting female rights, a political group for a jewish homeland, and the enjoyment of causing pain to others are all interchangable?
“Yes, when it involves women. Women become managers and they systematically run anti-feminist men out. Once the good men are out the corporation crashes but not before women ensure total fascism in the work place. Just look at the shape the USA is in financially. The USA’s dire financial condition is a direct result of feminism.”
You don’t mention feminism until the last line, so unless all women are feminists, you are saying that women are incapable of their jobs because they are women. (And they only get to where they are because of feminism)
But seriously, do tell. How are feminism, zionism, and sadism the same thing? At all?
@AWS:
Also, what video are we talking about here? The comedy sketch? So women do the exact thing, ask new hires to give them blowjobs, but bring strap-ons so they have something to blow? This.. is just bad enough to be absolutely hilarious..
There is so much wrong in your analysis of the collapse, but I don’t have time. It’s cute that you think there’s oh-so-many female CEOs.
WTF is THIS:
I can’t even. Are you NWO? Because I understand all the words on their own, but together it’s indecipherable word vomit.
Well, one is SNL and one is Mr. Show. So there’s that difference.
And, um, prostitutes aren’t the only people who perform oral sex.
The rest of it is just beyond idiotic.
And that first article is from 2005. A tad outdated, no?
Wow, another who doesn’t understand that words have meanings. Please, without using a dictionary, define fascism.
“So promoting female rights, a political group for a jewish homeland, and the enjoyment of causing pain to others are all interchangable?”
Yes. because the sadists control both groups resulting in the collapse of the USA economically and socially. Feminism is not about female rights. Feminism is about promoting sadism. The powers that be are sadists and use feminism/’Zionism as a mass brainwashing tool. Modern feminism why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The Zionists have killed millions of people. Read up on The Bolshevik Revolution.
This is another guy I rly want to hear his entire worldview, what the world is now, how feminism is behind it and where he believes the world is going xDDD
I’m alrdy rly amused by what I’ve seen :3
@AWS:
I think I agree with Ami. You gotta give us some background on what you’re talking about. Who are the sadists? What do they do? What is their goal? Then we can talk specifics, otherwise we won’t know what you’re talking about and nothing will get done.
” you are saying that women are incapable of their jobs because they are women.”
Nope those are your words due to your poor reading comprehension level. How about answering my questions responders? Does the cat got your tongue or something?
@AWS:
So, is my justification for that out-of-context quote not correct? Or are you gonna pick and choose words to make it seem like I just assert crap the same way you do?