Career women: A crime against nature?
She's trouble!
Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)
a) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.
b) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.
c) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.
d) A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.
ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.
In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:
Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.
Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?
Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:
It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.
Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:
Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.
Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:
When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.
Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:
[T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.
Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.
Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:
The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.
Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.
The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”
Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.
Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!
Posted on June 24, 2011, in alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, douchebaggery, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 1,021 Comments.
@Victoria von Syrus
Citation needed, google it. You’re all so well accomplished here I wouldn’t dare insult your intelligence. Since you already do sooooooo much of the worlds work, (based on your word alone). What? Another percent’ll kill ya?
You know what’s funny about NWO? He rails against The State, and state workers because he doesn’t understand that the U.S. is a consumer based economy. What’s even funnier, is that his entire livelihood is based on the support of the state and he wants to call other people out for being a drain.
Now, MRAL has never worked to solely support himself or managed a household so, as with many subjects, his opinions are based purely on conjecture and ignorance.
Nothing new here.
I think the study cannot be trusted because work is difficult to compare. 6 hours of housework vs. 6 hours in the canning factory? Both are work, but I know what I’d choose.
Seriously, women no doubt contribute a lot to the world. But for feminists to say that women run the world when teams made up of mostly men built almost every building you see is absurd and misandric.
Worldwide, I think women work about as much as men. In the Western world, I don’t know. I was being hyperbolic earlier, but I do think men do a lot more.
Uh huh.
You say those thing, MRAL, but you don’t offer any independent facts that support your opinions.
I do.
That’s why I have credibility and you don’t.
Citation needed, google it. You’re all so well accomplished here I wouldn’t dare insult your intelligence. Since you already do sooooooo much of the worlds work, (based on your word alone). What? Another percent’ll kill ya?
When you were prattling on and on about how unfair and oppressive child support was, I courteously provided you with a link to a report on Census.gov about divorce and child care. I even typed out all the interesting bits in bullet point form. And then, when you were whining about marriage being dead, I courteously pointed out some stats on divorcerate.org which again proved you wrong, and demonstrated how they proved you wrong. And when you were whining about false accusation of rape, I brought up the facts published by RAINN to prove you wrong.
All I’m asking for is the same courtesy. Surely, to learn such things, you must have read theme somewhere? Did you not bookmark your sites for easy reference? Sometimes I make that mistake, too. I mean to bookmark them but then my browser crashes and I’ve lost them. But I can usually find them again if I use Google. Or, I mean, if it was a book or a magazine or a newspaper, let us know which ones!
I don’t think there are a lot of adult able-bodied women or men, at any time in history, in any place, who don’t work.
The vast majority of people (even most middle-class Americans) just aren’t rich enough to support that.
Worldwide, I think women work about as much as men. In the Western world, I don’t know. I was being hyperbolic earlier, but I do think men do a lot more.
You can think whatever you want, but unless you can prove you’re right, don’t get upset if I continue in thinking that you’re incredibly, stupendously wrong. And wrong because you’re a misogynist and more interested in holding to your ideology than in being challenged and finding out what the truth is.
@Victoria von Syrus
Yes, and you neglected to note that marriage rates are down as well. I rightfully site the Ghetto, where marriage is unbelievable low.
If no one is getting married, the divorce rate will be 0.
http://www.slate.com/id/2164268/
First result on Google. Yeah that’s some immutable “evidence”, Sally.
Yes, and you neglected to note that marriage rates are down as well. I rightfully site the Ghetto, where marriage is unbelievable low.
If no one is getting married, the divorce rate will be 0.
WRONG AGAIN! Jeebus, do I have to copy/paste what I wrote before? I really don’t want to.
In a nutshell: 82% of the American populations will die married or widowed, even if it takes some of them three tries to do it right. Which doesn’t even take into account all the people who are living happily unmarried – cohabiting or poly nests or priests/monks/nuns or whatnot (or the LG folks, who *can’t* get married no matter how much they want to. Want to up the marriage rate? Let gays get married).
I’ll let Spearhafoc deal with your atrocious grammar.
Wow. I thought we’d already explained to NWO that the rate of divorce is measured against the rate of marriage, not the rate of people. And still, still he brings up this long de-bunked non sequitor.
@Victoria von Syrus
I could care less what your socially constructed, and sometimes physically constructed gender benders get.
Also, NWOslave, I don’t know if you have ever even been asked this question here, but:
Why are marriage rates so goshdurned important to you, anyway? Why are you so clinging to the idea that a society must have marriage, or it is doomed? Why do you equate the idea of a declining marriage rate with social dissolution? I think Western Europeans marry far less frequently than Americans, but their societies seem to be doing pretty damn well.
And so what if women do work more than men, COLLECTIVELY? Hypothetically, that doesn’t mean that every man is a lazy entitled oppressor, despite what the The Fymynysts like to say. A lot of men (read: me) work a lot harder than anyone else I know, and that includes these supposed Atlas women. I know women who are lazy as shit, regardless of whether, OVERALL, women work harder. So fuck you, fymynysm.
I could care less what your socially constructed, and sometimes physically constructed gender benders get.
Fine, you’re a homophobe.
And the rest of my comment? Just going to ignore it?
MRAL, do you even have a job?
NWO, let me just run this by you one more time: Unless there are literally zero marriages, divorce rates are independent of marriage rates. They are based on what percentage of couples divorce. It doesn’t matter how many marriages there are.
If only one hundred people in the US were to marry in the US one year — which would make the marriage rate EXTREEEEEMELY low, and half of them divorce, the divorce rate would be 50%.
If every single person in the US were to marry one year — which would make the marriage rate 100% — and half of them divorce, the divorce rate would be 50%.
If 25% of couples divorce, whether there are 100 or 1 zillion million couples, the divorce rate would be 25%. If 75% divorce, regardless of how many couples, it would be 75%.
The only way the marriage rate might affect the divorce rate: if a very high percentage of couples marry, there will probably be more incompatable couples in that bunch than if a very small percentage of couples (those who are really really really truly in love) marry. So (all else being equal) the higher the percentage of people who marry, the higher the divorce rate would be. (Of course there are many many other factors so in the real world it’s not this simple.)
No the rate of divorce is given to by the number of people married. (per thousand) is how they normally give these number.
Holly, MRAL is a lifeguard. Don’t you understand? He’s a LIFEGUARD! He’s probably taken over his mother’s mortgage and car payments.
No the rate of divorce is given to by the number of people married. (per thousand) is how they normally give these number.
The stats on divorcerate.org analyze how many MARRIAGES end in divorce, not how many PEOPLE are divorcing. The rate for a first marriage to end in divorce is 41%. That means that, no matter *how* many people get married, whether it’s ten or ten thousand, 41% of them will divorce.
Or maybe you just like being wrong. Who is this ‘they’ of which you speak? Are they more or less credible than divorcerate.org?
MRAL,
That very same article was the link that started this discussion off. I talked about it, and provided links that suggested that that particular study is not the whole story. I even provided links to LATER studies that contradicted that study.
I guess you haven’t been paying attention.
Once again, you demonstrate why you have no credibility.
I actually have 2 jobs. I work as a cashier at a Starbucks too.
Granted I don’t do much else but that’s more than a lot of people, and compared to the amount of work I do during the school year this summer is a break.
Teh Fymynysts live in your head and talk to you. We understand, it can be very confusing. You should probably seek help.
Lifeguard is a perfectly respectable job for a 20-year-old who’s in school.
But it’s NOT a good basis for claiming that you work harder than any women at a super hard dirty dangerous job.
Hell, I work in an ER! You want to talk hard, dirty, and dangerous? It’s not the worst, it’s much easier than being an EMT in the field was and I’m not going to claim it’s comparable to working in a coal mine… but let’s just say, there are a lot of poop situations and a lot of attempted staff assaults. Not so many suntanning opportunities.
Yeah I realized that a few minutes ago sally. But regardless of whether you’re right or not you’re still a misandrist fymynyst asswipe.
Hypothetically, that doesn’t mean that every man is a lazy entitled oppressor, despite what the The Fymynysts like to say. A lot of men (read: me) work a lot harder than anyone else I know, and that includes these supposed Atlas women.
Wasn’t it YOUR argument that most women are lazy and entitled even tho ppl were telling you that a lot of women were hard workers? o_O Now you’ve just reversed it xD
Also “despite what the The Fymynysts like to say”
who are these feminists and what exactly are they saying? xD Do you hang out w/ a lot of feminists who say this?
A lot of men (read: me) work a lot harder than anyone else I know, and that includes these supposed Atlas women.
This could just be the ppl you know xD What do you do that you consider to be working a lot harder? What do all of the people you know do that you think they could be doing more? xD
Details. By Calvin Klein.
xD
MRAL, do your two jobs pay, exclusively, for the roof over your head, the energy you consume, your health insurance, etc.?
Look we know the rate of divorce for marriage is around/or over 50%.
This number has been going up.
So how can the number be going down?
The only way that works out is if less people get married.
So if only 25% of the population is getting married and half of them are getting divorced. We can say divorce is down per the amount of people.
I can say with 100% confidance that divorce in the ghetto will be lower per person than elsewhere. This of course doesn’t mean they’re all mating for life in the Ghetto.
I work as a cashier at a Starbucks too.
I am so glad I do not go to any Starbucks in Maine or Boston. Given your fixation on certain things, I would be way too scared of having my coffee spit in.
But regardless of whether you’re right or not you’re still a misandrist fymynyst asswipe.
Citation needed.
no they don’t.
I’ve spent a good portion of my adult life as a government employee, and whew, am I rich! Oh no wait, whew, did I get to spend a portion of time every year listening to how even the minimal salary increases we got were *atrocious* (that’s right, if you got a perfect performance review, you were eligible for FIVE WHOLE PERCENT!) and also we’re just going to roll back cost-of-living increases because just because the cost-of-living has gone up 7% and we’re no longer giving even decent increases for good performance, gov’t employees surely don’t need more than 2% because….
I mean, think about this: Cost-of-living has risen 7% but with my supposedly cushy gov’t job I received a 2% salary increase and (in my best years) a 4.2% raise. So, not even up to cost-of-living. And in gov’t, especially local gov’t, you can’t really move much or there would be the whole job-loss thing. In my department new hires were making more than people who had been there for 20 years, because that’s how slow your raises go. Stay a dedicated civil servant? No bonuses for you! Swoop in for a year and swoop out to another place? Get a raise because new hires get more money because they need to be competitive on the job market.
But hey, at least I had health insurance and a retirement plan. I do miss that!
NWO, you actually think that the divorce rate is based on what percentage of people — including those who aren’t married, and therefore can’t divorce — divorce?
That would be like calculating the murder rate for a city by including not only those who live in a city but also everyone who is buried in a cemetery there.
Also, the divorce rate has been been falling since 1980 or so. That’s simply a fact.
Why is NWO so obsessed with life in the ghetto?
But for feminists to say that women run the world
Actually feminists don’t say that. But ppl like NWO do. xD
NWO, even in the “ghetto” which you love to reference, there are people getting married. Believe me.
And -and it’s ridiculous to even have to explain this- you can’t just make up imaginary numbers, followed by imaginary and irrelevant methodology to support your claims.
I mean, clearly, you can but it’s proof on nothing other than your own delusions.
NWO – Maybe David used too many words.
The divorce rate is not per population. It is per marriage. Unmarried people do not count as “not divorced” in these statistics.
Oh man, I don’t know why I bother. Sometimes the other guys listen, a little. NWO is second only to David K. PEACEANDFREEDOM in the Not Listening Olympics.
David, he does. NWO thinks that the divorce rate is measured agains the number of people. I know it seems crazy, but he really does.
MRAL, when you are a self-sufficient adult whose work and salary support your lifestyle entirely, you’re going to look back on the things you wrote here and feel very, very foolish.
Dave, go to a Guv site and tell me how they give the Stats. Per 100,000 usually.
Same with marriage, they go by the number of married peeps.
If you only have 25% of the population married thats the only stat you CAN draw from.
I don’t think I will.
I like the *this summer is a break* thing – just as a single data point, while I was doing undergrad I would pick up extra shifts and a second job in the summer so that I would could pay for rent and food (rent for both myself and my partner, fyi) more easily for the rest of semester. I regularly worked 60 hour weeks throughout the summer *break* in coffee shops because these were the only jobs I could get.
Y’know what? I don’t think I’m the hardest worker who has ever worked EVA, I feel lucky that I get to go to uni and study things that I’m passionate about. I acknowledge that there are a lot of people out there (men and women) who have it worse than me. I’m stressing about trying to pay for wisdom teeth extraction this year…but I’m not stressing about paying the rent. It’s called *perspective*.
Dave, according to a number one of the beloved here gave they said 75% of the children in the black population are born out of wedlock.
So if 1/2 of the 25% who are married get divorced, are you going to tell me the black population has a 87.5% marital success rate?
MRAL, you will. Believe me you will. Your thoughts about work, who does more, who does less, what counts as work, your ludicrous ideas about how long it takes to go grocery shopping… all of these things will change when you become your sole means of support.
And you will realize how silly your comments are today.
Dave, according to a number one of the beloved here gave they said 75% of the children in the black population are born out of wedlock.
So if 1/2 of the 25% who are married get divorced, are you going to tell me the black population has a 87.5% marital success rate?
No, that would be 50%. You are the worst ever at math.
(Additional Math Hint: not every family has only one child.)
The innumeracy. It burns.
@Amandajane5 this reminds me of a friend I had whose fiance (at the time, now husband :3 ) told her he couldn’t clean the bathroom b/c men didn’t evolve to do it, but women did, and we not only are better at it, but we LIKE it (i guess women who didn’t got eaten by dragons who were attracted to 99% clean or less washrooms xD for the selection process to have been that strict) -_-;; I’ve noticed this attitude a lot, the assumption that work women are expected to do are things we must not just naturally be better at, but also like more than men, so why torture men w/ being unhappy when our minds are better suited to enjoy it? xD
Dave, according to a number one of the beloved here gave they said 75% of the children in the black population are born out of wedlock.
Gods, I hope you’re not talking about me. According to child support stats garnered by the U.S. Census, 48.2% of black children in America live in single-parent homes. I assume some of these children were born to married parents who later divorced.
You’re also presuming that out-of-wedlock births are bad. Why are they bad?
Thats right Holly Pervocracy it is 50%. But the numbers you’re getting saying divorce is down is due to the FACT, that marrieage is down. Thats the point. Sheesh, are you intentionally ignorant.
Seriously, it’s like NWO believes that men are better at math and thus anything he does with numbers is correct.
He is the Humpty Dumpty (in Through the Looking Glass, of course) of math.
http://www.sabian.org/looking_glass6.php
@Victoria von Syrus
“You’re also presuming that out-of-wedlock births are bad. Why are they bad?”
I dunno? You tell me. Are you rushing to live in the Ghetto? The housing is cheap so cruise on ot there and buy youself a nice villa.
See, Victoria, what you’re doing is using “logic” and “reasoning” and “applying” it to the “numbers.” You should realize how unacceptable that is.
Nearly 50% of Black children in the U.S. live in single-parent households. Note, not 72% like the figure for out of wedlock births.
That means that some children’s parents were not married when they were born but were married later. That means that some children’s parents were not married when they were born but later married other people and that they are being raised inside of that marriage. That means that some children’s parents were not married when they were born and never got married and they live with either parent. that means that some children’s parents were married when they were born, but got divorced and now they live with either parent.
Or, if your NWO it means “Bad! Bad! Proof that feminism is a failure.”
It also means that you’ll conflate being Black and living in the “ghetto,” constantly.
But that’s a different post.
Ah, racism.
Also the inexplicable assumption that out-of-wedlock births (like, um, MINE) only happen in the “Ghetto.”
I hate to be pedantic (wait, no I don’t) but “decimate” merely means “remove one tenth”. It derives from a practice that the Roman army used as a punishment for failure or insubordination. The soldiers in a unit would be divided into groups of ten, and forced to draw lots. The loser of each 10, regardless of his actual role in the offending problem, would be killed. This was to keep everybody responsible for everyone else’s actions.
“Decimate” is not a synonym for “destroy”.
Now, NWOslave has made a bunch of posts, each one with a few major mistakes, but I think I’ll just focus on one particularly egregious one – a mistake I’ve corrected him for before, mind.
You couldn’t care less! Saying you “could care less” is saying that you do care, at least a little.
NWO, you racist fucking shit-heel, I’m about done with you using “Black” and “ghetto,” synonymously. I think I’ve been really charitable about this shit for a long time but I’m calling you out on it. Now.
All Black people are not poor. All poor people do not live in the “ghetto.” And all Black people do not live in the “ghetto.”
@MRAL what kind of endurance sports are you talking about? cuz there aren’t a lot of sports that are purely about how much you can endure and don’t have some sort of racing/speed aspect to it… if you dragged out a marathon until ppl started to collapse and die, then you might have your answer after a while o_O
One of the things that do come to mind tho is Professional Sauna (where you sit in over 220F temperatures and see who snaps first) which Rick Reilly describes in a rly interesting (and hilarious in a horrifying way) chapter in his book “Sports from Hell” (nebody interested in sports and athletics shoudl read this book… it’s not just funny.. it’s interesting… and I love reading about ppl who rly care about their sport, no matter how weird it seems.. I mean these are ppl doing something they love, even if they are going broke doing it, and not multi millionaires… and he treats all the sports with respect, incl ones that other ppl would just make assumptions about like Women’s Pro Football and Homeless World Cup of Soccer) and he talks about how the women might be better than the men at just sitting in an oven and enduring pain and they are thinking of getting rid of the gender division b/c female champs were sometimes lasting longer than men.
But I dunno why this is important? xD Except that apparently men can’t give an inch in admitting that women can be physically “better” at nething (and honestly, the only time any of this matters is in sports where there are no outside factors but strict athleticism by the rules (and also we’re taking the top of the top… I dunno what this has to do with an individual random man and an individual random woman? xD )… it’s not like we regularly have to run 100M dashes to determine who lives and who dies… I only note this b/c I find sports fascinating and Kirby mentioned my name xD
Also, MRAL I did the math on your woeful underestimations of how long housework takes (I added an hour per week for cleaning sinks/toilets etc. becuase you left that out) and that amounts to 23.85 hours per week of housework.
Housework, not child-raising, and with only enough time allotted for doing one person’s laundry (protip – doing laundry when you have an infant, toddler, small child, teenager…there is LOTS of it. I can’t tell you how many loads, exactly. For example – infants *spit up* all the time, as I understand it…and then you have to clean bibs, your jumper, more bibs, etc.). and cleaning a small house (I live in a big house…vaccuming takes more time than you suggested). Your estimation, with all that left out, if going off a 5 day work week, means spending 4.77 hours a day cleaning.
Regardless of how *easy* you think this work is…that’s still a fair amount of time spent working.
WOslave | June 24, 2011 at 6:22 pm
@Victoria von Syrus
“You’re also presuming that out-of-wedlock births are bad. Why are they bad?”
I dunno? You tell me.
Shouldn’t he be the one to tell us? o_O
He always makes positive assertions, then doesn’t back them up, and tries (rly badly) to turn it on us xD
I rly want to hear the A to B to C connections… like each step.. not the generalities of “out of wedlock births” = ghetto
I actually wanna hear him lay it out xD I suspect he never does cuz he knows just how racist and classist and horrible he’s going to look xD I generally just assume that that’s the reason he never goes into details about what he believes when ppl ask… cuz ppl are just gonna go “oh my… rly? you think that of your fellow human beings!? O_O” xD
WOslave | June 24, 2011 at 6:22 pm
@Victoria von Syrus
“You’re also presuming that out-of-wedlock births are bad. Why are they bad?”
I dunno? You tell me.
Shouldn’t he be the one to tell us? o_O
He always makes positive assertions, then doesn’t back them up, and tries (rly badly) to turn it on us xD
I rly want to hear the A to B to C connections… like each step.. not the generalities of “out of wedlock births” = ghetto
I actually wanna hear him lay it out xD I suspect he never does cuz he knows just how racist and classist and horrible he’s going to look xD I generally just assume that that’s the reason he never goes into details about what he believes when ppl ask… cuz ppl are just gonna go “oh my… rly? you think that of your fellow human beings!? O_O” xD
Here from your beloved Guv.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/divorce.htm
The stats are per 1000.
Now if we doubled that that marriage rate for 40 years ago and only had a 25% divorce rate, the divorce rate per 1000 people would be the same. DUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!
Why is this divorce argument so important to NWO? o_O What does he think is happening in each of these divorces? (or in the majority of them) and how do they relate to each other? What is the result? If divorce was banned, how would the world be? What would be the practical implications and effects of a world where divorce was illegal that he thinks it’s so important we get rid of divorce? Do ppl not REALLY want to be divorced? xD Do men ever want divorce?
I mean wouldn’t it be easier to convince us if he told us WHY things would be better? xD
Given how often NWO goes back to the gov to try to prove his point (despite that he also thinks they make up stats cuz they’re feminist lying liars xD ) I think it’s *his* beloved “guv” xD
(something fell thru b/c of a giant stupid miscommunication xD so right now, this is my entertainment xD )
*sigh*
For everyone who’s not Slavey: Slavey is a racist. You can tell because when he says ‘ghetto’, he really means ‘black’. In Slavey’s world, all black people in America live in the ghetto.
For Slavey: Feel free to mentally change the word ‘black’ to the word ‘ghetto’ for what follows.
This is according to another census report, which you may find here: http://www.census.gov/apsd/www/statbrief/sb93_2.pdf
In 1950, 78% of black households were married; 18% were female-headed households without a husband. I could not find comparable demographic data for either white Americans or the American population at large for the same time. According to a different data sheet, 4% of households in America were female-headed in 1960, compared to 22% in black households.
In 1993, 63% of black households had one parent, versus 25% of white households.
29% of black families lived in poverty in 1991, compared to 8% of white families. 48% of single parent black families were living below the poverty line.
So the numbers still aren’t great, but they’re not up in the 90s like you continually assert.
NWO’s issues with marriage and divorce are little more than sour grapes.
Also, I meant that NWO was using the words “Black” and “ghetto” interchangeably, not “synonymously.” That was probably clear from the context but, you know, I’d rather correct it than let it stand.
Ami – Good point. It’s easy to get caught up in statistics and not realize that a lot of divorces happen for a really good reason.
And I’m not just talking about men (or women) abusing their partners. (Although that’s some of it, and thank God it’s easier these days for someone to leave an abusive partner, although still not easy enough.) Sometimes two people just aren’t getting anything good out of a marriage, and there’s no reason to stay married just for marriage’s sake.
I’d love to hear why NWO thinks it’s so important that people stay married.
Especially if it doesn’t turn into insinuating that all black kids are born to single mothers in the “ghetto,” which is terrible because… because black people.
Isn’t it anti-MRA ideology to dance and squirm for the entertainment of feminists and women btw? o_O Esp when they’re so angry and upset doing it….
I mean I know that we’re immoral horrible ppl for being all mocky and evil and making Magyc cards (I still love that I’m ALL feminism xD Can we rename it Ami-ism? :3 ) but why would you want to provide free entertainment for us terrible evil feminists? xD
Actually you know what… I think we SHOULD just abandon feminism and the MRM as flawed ideologies and just embrace Ami-ism! :D (that or Ami-ism is the hatred of Amis… which would prolly give it more followers actually XDDDDD Or Rodeo Cat-ism xD )
@NWOslave
You are partially right about my attention span I have adhd. But considering I have tried to read your comments before and I have never gotten past a couple of paragraphs because as holly said they are comprised most of “misplaced statistics, bitter sarcasm, and conspiracy theories” I’m thinking it’s you not me. Normally I don’t use tl;dr, it’s a lazy tactic to use in a debate to discredit someone for their writing(but I’m not debating so it doesn’t matter). but seriously why should I even read your comments if its just the same thing over and over again about different subjects. There is even a freakin’ formula(was mentioned on another thread) you follow perfectly every time you debate and lose. It’s pathetic.
In short you are a boring troll and bad debater.
People have such a narrow definition of “work.”
I’m working part time as a substitute preschool teacher while I save for grad school. Don’t be fooled by the word “substitute,” because I’m there nearly every day. And it’s draining. Child care is incredibly difficult work. And while that’s a fact I acknowledged intellectually prior to taking this job, living it has changed my life. I get paid minimum wage to teach children how to write their names, to run a classroom if a teacher can’t make it. I discipline, protect and encourage children for $7.40 an hour. And most women who do this don’t get paid for it. You have no business commenting on whether not child care (and housework, which is also difficult work) qualifies as “work” unless you’ve lived it.
And in the fall, I’m off to get an MA in Postcolonial Culture and Global Policy. I might go to school for international law afterwards. My boyfriend hasn’t gotten his BA yet, and when he does, he wants it in fine arts. If we stay together, I’ll be the breadwinner. And I’m faithful to him. Same as I’ve been to all my partners. Roissy can fuck himself with a pine cone.
I think divorce is a good thing. If one or both members of a partnership don’t want to be together, they shouldn’t have to be together.
Even if NWOslave is right (which I believe is a logical impossibility) about the rising divorce rate, I still wouldn’t care.
@ Spearhafoc:
I always thought ‘decimate’ meant to reduce to 10%, not by 10%. But I looked it up, and you are right! It is to reduce something by about 10%.