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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Posted on June 24, 2011, in alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, douchebaggery, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 1,021 Comments.

  1. or maybe Amismexual…

    Amisensual? :o

    Amicentrical! :D

  2. I know plenty of women who regularly work 14 hour days. One in particular is an insomniac so regularly gets up and works to 5am…then gets up later that morning and goes to work again.

  3. w00t! another page! :D

  4. kirbywarp | June 25, 2011 at 2:53 am

    @AWS:

    Still giggling over this. I even directly linked to and summed up two of the articles at your makow website. More than you, you conspiratorial shill.

    kirbywarp | June 25, 2011 at 2:57 am

    @AWS:

    Alright, give me a straight (snicker) answer, please. Does homosexual mean “having sex with somone of the same gender?” (Don’t get me started on sadistic rituals, go bug holly if you really need to get topped)

    Just for your viewing pleasure, AWS. You still haven’t responded to that first bit. You gonna retract your statement about me not putting in the same effort as you? No. No you aren’t

  5. Lyn you left out the dash -__- it’s 1 – 4 hour days… no woman works more than 4… that would be misogyny!

  6. Kirby, you’re gay. Just accept it. The ray worked.

    xD

  7. Lol@ Ami – obviously that was a typo! I also don’t know any *lazy* men who work 8 hour days (you know, the ones they have labour laws about?!)

  8. “I think they know more about whether or not I’m fit to lead, than you do. ”

    They don’t. Your paragraph structure indicated you are a poor leader and should not be leading children anywhere.

    “I cook very well”

    If that is the case you would cook all the meals. You boyfriend will cheat on you.

    “A family church is not a place that you just leave.

    right, which is why you are in a cult and have a unhealthy fascination of with cub scouts and boys who you can boss around.

    “Now, I am not religious”

    You are a sadist which is why you boss around 9 year old boys. You would absolutely be kicked out if you revealed what boys you are brainwashing.

  9. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    After that last thing from AWSo, I keep hearing Inigo: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  10. there’s a giant target just hanging out there… xD c”mmmoonnnnn trolly! xD

    my rodeo cat ears are in the shop >_>

    *puts on bunny ears* goooo rodeo bunny! :D

  11. @Ami,

    It’s true, its true, the gay ray (or gray for short) worked just as it was supposed to. I now enjoy penises of all sorts, and vaginas are now squicky. I’m going to have to read up on how gay people are more violent now, I’m usually a big fluffy puppy. ^_^

    No.. Bad kirby.. >:D

    There we go.

  12. I’m bored. Kirby, you want that blow job or not? >_>;

  13. Cooking well does not equal feeling an overpowering desire to cook ALL THE TIME. Being in a relationship where both people are good cooks and share the cooking – means that they have more energy to cook interesting things becuase they aren’t burned out from cooking every. single. night. forever.

  14. Kirby warp, simple risotto recipe. Bear with me; I do a lot things to taste.

    Simple Risotto

    1 cup Arborio Rice – you can’t substitute anything else
    1 medium sized onion
    4 cloves a garlic – some people use two, I use four
    2 tablespoons of decent olive oil
    6 cups of stock – people generally use chicken, vegetable stock will do, beef stock is not recommended, it’s nice if you can have homemade but a decent, low sodium store bought brand will do just fine, and if you can’t find low sodium don’t sweat it, just don’t add additional salt to the dish
    2 – 3 table spoons of unsalted butter
    1 cup white wine – don’t use cooking wine, it has added salt
    Grated parmesean or pecorino cheese to taste
    Salt, again to taste and fresh ground black pepper

    Dice garlic and onion but keep them separate.

    In a heavy pot with deep sides – like a pot you might cook a smaller batch of pasta in- film the bottom with the olive oil and saute the onion over medium heat until translucent. Remember to stir.

    In a medium/quart sized sauce pan start heating the stock over low medium heat until it’s steaming and definitely hot, but not simmering or boiling. It just needs to be hot.

    When the onion is soft and translucent, add the garlic and stir just until the garlic begins to brown.

    Add the cup of arborio rice and shake it until it is a single layer along the bottom of the pot. Stir gently over the heat, until the rice is pearly and slightly translucent and is releasing a pleasant nutty smell. This takes about five minutes

    Add the cup of white wine and stir until it is completely evaporated.

    Using a ladle or measuring cup, pour a cup or two of the hot stock in with the rice. Stir gently but constantly until the liquid is completely absorbed.

    Now -and this is the time consuming part- add about a cup of stock to the pot and repeat this process. Add the stock, stir until absorbed, add the stock, stir until absorbed.

    The rice will release its own starch and the risotto will gain a creamy consistency. Just keep doing it slowly until you’ve added all the stock. Stir in the butter if you’d like (some people don’t like to finish with butter) taste it. Add a little salt if you like, and fresh ground pepper. Serve with the grated cheese and a nice salad. Or a roasted vegetable in the winter time.

    Easy as pie, if you follow the steps.

  15. I’m such an awesome cook that I can cook while I shower AND while I sleep (and shower while I sleep!) xD

  16. @Ami:

    Well, not anymore, the gray turned me gay! I’m into men playing with my penis now. (ironic outcome, success!)

    @AWS:

    Funny, you make all these assertions, yet fail to provide any links! You’re slipping, friend.

  17. I feel that cunnilingus is being seriously discriminated against in this thread.

  18. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    13 does the cooking in our relationship-I hate cooking even though I am AWESOME at it.

  19. @Nobinayamu:

    Thanks for the recipe. The white wine and the ARborio Rice might be a little hard to come by, but I’ll sure try to give it a shot. :)

  20. I can teach ppl on how to make my super sekrit lo shui sauce! :3 (in Chinese it literally means old water >_>) it is a sauce you use to cook all sorts of things in (hard boiled eggs, daikon, beef shank, chicken legs) and reserve after you’re done and put it in the fridge… it gains flavour as you keep cooking w/ it :3 and you can keep it for quite a long time b/c you keep boiling it :D (some families keep their sauces for years… tho you do keep adding to it since it does reduce w/ use)

    once you have it, you can make dinner pretty easy, just plop stuff in and let it boil and simmer for an hour or 2…

  21. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    That is because a woman’s satisfaction is irrelevant to AWS so he will not talk about it.

  22. kirby

    I have determined that you are a feminist and NWO shill. I don’t care what you post now. My exercise was to find out who you are and what line of of work you will be involved in. I am keenly aware of socio-economics. I need to find out where the USA is headed and adjust business accordingly. I believe you will work for the government and work as a shill. I don’t think you are all that bright. The best and brightest are leaving the USA. theghostnation.com is a very sophisticated site. There is also a sub site that you do not see. My filed work tonight has been worth the time.

  23. @Lyn I have wondered if by that logic, if a man eats out a woman does that make the woman gay automatically? xD

  24. Cunnilingus is always being discriminated against. The first time the original NWO ever popped up it was to rail against a post Holly wrote extolling the virtues of foreplay.

  25. @Lyn:

    Blame the gray. *shrug* And I would have been happy to reciprocate in my former state, but now… *sigh* Oh well.

  26. I like amicentrical.

  27. Beth – I actually know plenty of chefs who are, obviously, good cooks but cannot stand to cook at home cos they’ve been doing it ALL DAY. Which, y’know, makes sense. My problem with cooking is dishes that result. Hate them.

  28. @AWS:

    Well, I hope your conversation with one random anonymous dude on the internet has given you all the evidence you need to plan for the future. May the NWO treat you the way you deserve. ^__^

  29. Hey kirby, I forgot about the underage thing. Use cooking wine, just remember to pay attention to the overall saltiness of the dish. And arborio rice used to be pretty hard to find. You’ll find it fairly easily now even in large chain grocery stores. If it isn’t with the rice, it will be the italian foods.

  30. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    there is that too Lyn…here is what I like a lot about 13…He cleans the dishes and without even being asked!

    this is nearly to month three and I think he is a keeper…but reserving until August when we hit the three month mark and the infatuation will have faded.

  31. Reciprocation!? This is the feminist world order – we demand cunnilingus all the time. We’re only engaging in strategic blow jobs now, but we will be phasing them out and demanding that others only cater to *our* pleasure. 8)

  32. @AWS:

    Also.. this escaped my first reading… But are you my first honest-to-life stalker now? I feel so… proud? fearful? jovial? creeped out? Meh, whatevs.

  33. @Nobinayamu:

    Oh don’t worry, not underaged. I can buy wine, I just don’t drink at all, so it’d be annoying to obtain. That’s all.

  34. Oooer! Cleans dishes! My partner does too – we have a rotating system where whoever cooks doesn’t have to clean up. Still…dishes. Plus, my partner was raised to believe that leaving the dishes until morning is a CARDINAL SIN which I find difficult to live with as I am a practiced procrastinator (read: LAZY FEMINIST SCUM)

  35. “friend”

    hardly.

  36. @AWS:

    Aww, c’mon. We’ve been chumming around for the past couple hours now! A little link play here, a little playful banter there. And as soon as the gray powers up again, maybe we could move on to some more… fun things. >:D

  37. Also, not getting into icky details or anything…but anal sex can be really lots of fun and not in a S&M way either. Just sayin’.

  38. KIrby – you could do better. ;)

  39. Suddenly he’s very economical w/ his words xDDD

  40. @Lyn:

    What can I say, I’m a masochist? Or is that sadist? Either one works. ;)

  41. “Hey kirby, I forgot about the underage thing.”

    is that what you say to the 9 year old cub scouts that you boss around?

  42. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    Yep Lyn…I am like the laziest person so I pay someone to clean my house.

  43. only if they’re named Kirby. xD

  44. @AWS:

    I’m hurt. The way you go on and on about 9 year olds, makes me think… Oh, I see. I’m too old for you, am I? *sigh* my poor broken heart… Alas, sadly it seems it was never meant to be.

  45. I THOUGHT WHAT WE HAD WAS SPECIAL!

  46. ASW, I’m posting on a blog. My writing is conversational.

    My boyfriend and are I discussing marriage but we do not live together. If I am at his house he does the cooking, if he is at my house, I do the cooking. On occasion I cook at his house. Lyn is right – people who cook for a living are just not in the mood sometimes. Every once in a while he’ll help when he’s at my house, especially when I get overly ambitious and decide I’m going to butcher the chicken myself for Coq Au Vin. Stupid. So he steps in with his superior knife skills and… Wow, this isn’t even about responding to you anymore. I think I miss my boo.

    Being a cub scout leader isn’t being in a cult. Scouting is wonderful and there’s nothing unhealthy about it. I think this is the first time I’ve ever talked about being a leader in this space. Hmm. I must feel really comfortable. As for bossing them around: pshaw. Have you ever worked with 6 to 9 year old boys?

    The rest of what you wrote is too stupid to address. Or I’m finally tired. I don’t boss them around. We do scout stuff: Pinewood derby races, jamborees, camping trips, hiking, archery, fishing trips, knot tying, first aid merit badges. Things like that.

  47. Lyn also proved my point about feminism and sadism. anal sex is one sadistic ritual and no wonder feminists push that most unnatural and unhealthy behavior.

  48. Beth I wish I could afford to! Also, another reason for not cooking (tonight in particular…it’s 6.30 pm here) is that my kitten has installed himself on my lap. Pinning me down with cuteness.

  49. If you’re commenting on a blog shouldn’t your writing be confrontational?

    YOU ARE BREAKING THE BLOGGING CONVENTIONS AS SET DOWN BY THE UNITED NATIONS!

  50. it’s a ritual now? xD that feminists push!

    KIRBY IT’S 4:30AM GET OUT THE HOLY DILDO!
    xD

  51. Hmm, should note that the link is not safe for work, unless pictures of gay animal sex is safe for work.

  52. AWS, you don’t have to be jealous or feel threatened by me being a scout leader. See what troops exist in your area, contact them, and if ask if they need volunteer help. If the leaders think you’d be a good fit with their troop, they’ll let you know and help you get certified if that’s what you’d like.

    Um, you may not pass the certification tests.

  53. Ami, my writing is often confrontational. But, ASW’s sensibilities are so delicate…

  54. “I think I miss my boo.”

    Are you African American? Who uses that word? Superior knife skills? How about superior seasoning and temperature control skills? i feel sorry for the kids you boss around.

  55. Giraffes really like teh gay according to that link!

  56. PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

    I have to drive to LA in about ten hours so I am off to bed…night everyone except AWS…you can just go stuff yourself in the butt.

  57. they are one of the more phallic mammals xD

  58. Uh, AWS knife skills is totally a thing. There’s a reason why we have butchers to butcher our meat…takes some doing. Oh, and have you seen the Long Kiss Goodnight? Wicked knife skills. Also, temperature control and seasoning? Not rocket science.

  59. “Have you ever worked with 6 to 9 year old boys? ”

    No, i work with adults. i don’t feel the need to boss around and brainwash kids like you do. Now, if you were dealing with girl scouts i would not be giving you grief . You should not be leading boys anywhere.

  60. night night elizabeth! :3

  61. i don’t feel the need to boss around and brainwash kids

    you dun? o_O

    weirdo

  62. @Ami and Lyn and AWS:

    I never knew how freaky the animal kingdom got.. they really go at it like… well… you know. To AWS in particular, how is homosexuality, even anal sex, unnatural if a fair portion of the natural world partakes?

  63. Ah, women have nothing to teach boys about being human beings! I see that now! How could I possibly have been so stupid!?

  64. heh, cause only girls can lead girls, and only guys can lead guys. Otherwise its unnatural. And gay.

  65. lol kirbywarp – good call :D

  66. Victoria von Syrus

    I have to say, at least AWS is more entertaining than the Green Lantern movie (it’s… not great. The cityscapes are quite wonderful, so it’s probably worth Neflixing, but the overall story is weak).

    For what it’s worth, though, I vote ‘troll’ instead of twisted. Either that, or NWOslave got a new account and is being even more over the top and absurd.

    I’m betting no matter what anyone says, he’s still going to spew forth misogynist hatred.

  67. @Victoria:

    That’s what surprises me, that he’s stuck around for so long. He clearly blew his load early, and has now devolved into making random pedophilia accusations. Why does he stick around?

  68. I’m good at seasoning and temperature control. Carving up an uncooked chicken properly, without waste? Well, I could use some practice.

    And you don’t need to feel sorry for my scouts. Tomorrow (well today at this point) we’re going to have swimming lessons, then playground, and maybe ice cream. Fun times for all.

    I think people who miss their “boo” use the word “boo”.

  69. “unnatural”

    Which is why:

    Islam overtakes Catholicism as world’s largest religion

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3653800.ece

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