Blogger: SlutWalkers deserve to be raped
From the website of the Edmonton SlutWalk 2011
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the most odious misogynist bullshit I have seen thus far on the topic of the Slutwalks: a post on The Third Edge of the Sword, a blog that seems to go out of its way to be offensive and “edgy,” that takes victim blaming to a whole new level. Here’s the basic, er, argument of the post, which the author has put in giant pink letters so we won’t miss it:
Every woman marching in the Edmonton Slut Walk is publicly declaring herself a slut. This means every woman there desires sex with any and all partners. Any sexual activity you initiate with them comes with implied consent. They cannot say no, and if they do understand all their ‘no’s mean yes. They are all asking for it. They want it bad. Now. From you. Go get ‘em!
Some other highlights:
[I]f you … dress slutty, men are going to stare at you. We’re going to catcall. We are going to tell you all sorts of sexual things we want to do to your body. And if you dress slutty and wave your ass in our face, we will do them. The organizers of this event are not oblivious to this point: what they want is a fake sexual revolution. They want to be able to impersonate sluts without actually being sluts, and that’s unacceptable. If you don’t want to be treated as a piece of meat, don’t marinate and grill yourself and sit perched on a piece of garlic toast. You dress slutty, you show off the goods, you try to get a reaction, you will get one. Hint: it’s not always going to be the one you want. …
The “reaction” he has in mind is rape. By calling rape a “reaction” instead of what it is — a criminal assault on someone, an act of sexual violence, a violation — he of course is attempting to switch the blame to the victim. He spells out his “logic” in more detail:
[W]hen you impersonate a slut we don’t fine you, and we don’t throw you in jail. There’s really only one punishment for dressing like a streetwalker when you aren’t one: you do have to endure the occasional rape. You should really suffer it in silence. Accept the character flaw within you that caused this, and move on. Police and court resources are already busy enough with real criminals: like actual rapists who do nasty things to their niece or the homeless native chick passed out under the bridge, or a conservatively dressed urban professional walking to her car, or a girl out jogging in a track suit. To equate the act of actually violating and raping one of these people with having sex with a girl who’s every square millimetre of public persona screams anybody who wants to can screw me right now is ridiculous.
Once again, this brand of misogyny leads to some conclusions that are pretty misandrist – namely, the notion that men are at heart rapists who can’t control their violent urges:
If you go out on the street in an outfit that would make Britney Spears feel uncomfortable, you do so knowing that your ultimate aim is to make men want you. Well, they want you now. Congrats. Oh, wait, you mean you didn’t understand what that implied? That in the great Bell curve of sexual congress you’ve just pushed everybody on the right-hand side of the -2 std devs line past that imaginary barrier that says “there is no power in the universe powerful enough to stop me from sliding my finger inside your panties”? I call bullshit. You do know. But you want to be a virginal slut, to dress in ways that makes men helpless to their urges but still leaves you fully in restrictive control.
The blogger concludes by arguing that the Slutwalkers are all “lying bitches” because they dress like they wasn’t to be raped, but do not actually want to be raped. Then he makes this lovely suggestion:
If your wife is one of them, I’m very very sorry. Maybe a good rape might make her a little more manageable around the house.
Now this post is an atmittedly extreme example of a misogynistic response to the Slutwalks. But the basic “logic” of this blogger’s would-be argument is essentially identical to that of many MRA and other “manosphere” pieces I’ve seen on the subject, the main difference between them being that this guy embraces the logical conclusion of his argument — that Slutwalkers deserve to be raped — while the MRAs who make essentially the same argument (and fling the same sorts of insults at the Slutwalkers) make a show of saying that they don’t really think the Slutwalkers “deserve” it. And maybe they’ve convinced themselves that this caveat means something . But in that case the extreme reaction that manosphere misogynists have had to the Slutwalks – the insults thrown at the Slutwalkers, the “jokey” references to rape, the prurient sneering – makes little sense. If you argue that women are “asking for it” when they dress like “sluts,” you’re essentially saying they deserve it. You’re making the same argument this guy is making, but pretending you aren’t.
NOTE: The graphic above is taken from the official web site for the Edmonton SlutWalk 2011, which took place a week ago. Here are some pictures of the march.
Posted on June 11, 2011, in antifeminism, evil women, misandry, misogyny, MRA, rape, rapey, reactionary bullshit, sluts, threats, violence against men/women. Bookmark the permalink. 612 Comments.
Okay, getting better. Now if only you could improve the content.
I guess all the stories of princes and princesses, girlfriends and boyfriends… Lois and Clark… Cinderella, Snow White, Ben 10, Aladdin, Final Fantasy, Super Mario, Spider-Man etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc xD don’t count XDD
But then in NWOrld I presume they’d all be raised in the NWOrganization in a big vacuum sealed room where they’re forced to play hop scotch.. the only one and true asexual game! xD
Spearhafoc, I closed perfectly. I make no bones about online and in RL. I find LGBTQ repulsive. Just because you and your feminist allys say something is good, doesn’t mean I have to agree.
If you score a touchdown in hockey, does that count as six goals?
And I’m still waiting for an answer from you, Subbie.
NWO- Nice try moving those goalposts, careful you don’t sprain something. Clothing choice is not consent.
Let me help you out here. Clothing choice- this blouse or that one? Consent- Yes, that sounds like fun, let’s do that!
Going out of one’s home is not consent. Having a drink, dancing or talking to a man- not consent. Having a meal with a man- not consent. Those are, in order, going out of one’s home, having a drink, dancing, talking to a man and/or having a meal. Clothing choice is not consent. Knowing someone is not consent. Being related to someone is not consent. Being momentarily in the company of a person with a hardon is. not. god damned. consent. you asshole.
Consent is consent. I find your inability to understand such a simple concept profoundly disturbing.
Having sexual contact with a person who has not explicitly and specifically agreed to that is sexual assault. Even if the person has had the temerity to dress as they please and to leave the confines of their own home they are still legally, morally and ethically entitled to decide who touches their very own personal body.
In Amiworld they’re indoctrinated to be gay in accordance with State law by are 6. There forced to kiss and snuggle with each other for the amusement of those in power.
Guh? I said your post was close to having acceptable grammar. What did you think I meant, exactly?
xD
I GOT HIM TO PLAY ALONG!!!!
YESSS XDDDD
Given that I’m in power, that’s abs true xD Except it’s not the Amiworld, it’s the Ami VERSE :D
Except I dun believe in the state… why would I need a state at all? o_O You think too small xD
Need to Know if you dress and act like a slut and I say, “hey nice cleavage ya wanna fuck?” Don’t be insulted. You act like a slut so expect to be treated like one. What, suddenly you’re a delicate snowflake that’ll melt from harsh language?
Slaver, I assume that the prepubescent children rant has something to do with your link. I’m not going to click on the link, and I’m not going to watch a video. If you’d like you can describe the important findings in words, as you are able.
I actually think, though, that sexuality is a part of life. A pretty important one at that. I think what a child is able to understand depends on their age and maturity. I think that some aspects of sex can be described in a way that a young child could understand it — and I know for a fact that children do understand some aspects of sex at a very young age, and are curious about it.
For example, I think that telling children that some little boys and girls are lucky enough to have two mommies or two daddies, and there’s nothing wrong with that, is hardly the same as … indoctrinating them to Be Gay. I also think that having a frank conversation with a child about consent and respecting other people’s bodies, for example, would be far less dangerous than allowing that child to poke a wasp nest. (Or was that just a signal that you know you’re being idiotic?)
*I have no idea what you’re trying to say there. English, motherfucker, do you speak it‽
NWO:
“Pedophilia is also a psychosexual disorder in which the fantasy or actual act of engaging in sexual activity with prepubertal children is the preferred or exclusive means of achieving sexual excitement and gratification. It may be directed toward children of the same sex or children of the other sex. Some pedophiles are attracted to both boys and girls. Some are attracted only to children, while others are attracted to adults as well as to children.”
source
I believe I’ve made my point tho xD He doesn’t even TRY to counter it, he’s just obsessed with getting back at me XDDDD
He went from “I never read a thing you say” to “you’re incomprehensible” to going on a full tilt xDDD *leans back on the ropes* XD (oh wait.. for the feminist conspiracy: XXD)
Spear, it’s actually a very clever code that Subbie has come up with to fool the New World Order. If nobody understands what he’s saying, then they can’t drag him off to the FEMA camps.
That and the tinfoil hat will keep him safe. XD
Spearhafoc…Ya wanna know something? And this is the truth. I did that on purpose. I wanted to see if you’d stupidly correct my grammar again. This poor tactic to prove your/you’re superior intelligence is pure self indulgent narcissism.
Wow.. he sure showed you xD
The “I meant to do that” defense.
You are Scott Adams, and I claim my five dollars.
If NWO is Scott Adams, I am truly and finally never going to read another Dilbert cartoon again.
“I have no idea what you’re trying to say there. English, motherfucker, do you speak it‽”
I think I can translate: “they’re indoctrinated to be gay in accordance with State law by AGE 6.”
I speak Slave now. I am scared.
Hey Johnny Pez. Do you give your last name as Pez because you hide pez in your pockets and have that dog of your’s go in after them?
Oh no Bee. A total word error. Yet you figured it out. You must be smart.
Oh, this is the AmiVerse now?
Then I, for one, welcome our new Ami overlords!
Let the snuggling and kissing commence!
[evil laughter]
XD
Actually it’s Age -6 (from 6 years before they were born, but were still existing potentially in their future parents in some form) xD The Ami Future doesn’t take chances >:3
I, for one, welcom our new snuggling and kissing overlords! :D
Is…is that an insult now? Slavey has well and truly snapped.
So, NWO, ignore this if you’re typing a response at the moment, but when the actual clinical definition for pedophilia is in direct contradiction with yours, are you gonna admit you are wrong?
Going back to the ‘big bag of money’ bit, theft is not the same as assault. it’s a very poor analogy.
Than write/right your/you’re congressman/woman everybody and tell them to have have boys snuggling boys and girls snuggling girls by nursery school. Let’s get em early.
Also, too, guh? That’s not a decent insult. It’s not clever or witty or apropos. It’s just stupid.
are boys and girls made to snuggle in the nursery schools NWO go to or want to run or something? o_O
O_O;;;;
NWO- sadly for you, words have these things called definitions. And the definition of consent is not “gives someone else a hardon”.
Sexual assault is a crime. The persons committing sexual assault are making a choice to commit a crime. All the whining in the world about how teh ebil gurlz made them do it by daring to have boobies IN PUBLIC OMGWTFBBQ is bone stick and stone level stupid.
Also? It makes you look like a world class creep.
Bored now. When does tonight’s Dr Who come on?
“Sir… Its NWO!”
“What? What about him?”
“Its his troll readings… He’s gone full tilt!”
“… My God…”
BTW, NWOSlave, you clearly don’t spend much time around children. Reinforcing gender roles and enforcing heterosexuality are HUGE parts of a child’s informal education.
If you don’t believe me go observe a baby ballet class sometime. On second thoughts don’t. You’ll creep the poor little ones out of their skulls.
Hay Kristinmh you’re in Toronto right? :3 We’re trying to get a meet up together… tho Spear can’t meet next weekend… but would you be interested? :D
Little kids like to snuggle. With each other, adults, teddy bears, pets – they’re kids. Does Subby think kids are into bestiality if they snuggle with a pet?
I snuggled w/ my pet and I turned out jus—
oh right…
XD
Actually, I’m free next weekend. It’s this weekend (ie now) that I have to do stuff.
Procrastination, thy name is Spearhafoc.
Actually, Subbie, PEZ stands for Perpetual Emasculation Zone, and represents the oath of fealty I took to Our Feminist Rulers.
If it makes people more like Ami, then everyone should snuggle pets!
Oh right.. somebody else couldn’t make it next weekend :\
GAY PUPPIES! What horrors has the state unleashed upon us now, where cute little puppies are forced to sleep on top of each other in an attempt to turn them gay! (And get them into bestiality, apparently.)
But wait a minute. I snuggle with my female dog, so I’m a lesbian, not a zoophile, right?
@Bee:
Yup, because women are basically dogs. BOOM! Back to feminism!
I snuggle with male and female dogs, so that would make me a bizoophile.
Capt B-robe, you don’t speak for anyone calling himself a man. You’re a feminist. Kinda says it all.
I speak for me and me alone.
Am I a man?
Yes, technically I am .
Another day, same old hateful shit from slavey. He’s really getting tedious.
And I’m assuming Subbie’s insult was his way of saying, “Yes, Johnny, you’re right, if some big gay dude raped me it would totally be my fault for leading him on with my sexy tank top and daisy dukes.”
NWO, a couple things.
In relation to a lot of your posts: You seem to have this idea that the human body is inherently sexual, and showing it off is an inherently sexual display. Why is this? We do so much with our bodies that has nothing to do with sex.
Similarly, your analogy to waving piles of money around in a poor part of town is total BS. Why? #1, see above. Showing off your body is not inherently sexual – and it can be aesthetic without being sexual. #2, because from an ethical standpoint, no matter how much of an asshole move it would be to wave that money around, that still doesn’t make it OKAY or RIGHT for anyone to take it. #3 Money is a bad comparison, because money and human bodies are very different things.
Do you go to museums, NWO? Do you think you have the right to steal the art and hang it up in your living room just because someone else put it on display?
Next:
“Don’t ya think prepubecent children are a little young to be taught any sexuality?”
Well, no. Yes, I think prepubescent children are too young to be ENGAGING in sexuality, but here’s the thing…when a kid hits puberty, they’re going to start having these feelings and desires. And they should have INFORMATION on how to deal with and understand those feelings before they start having them. And that continues after puberty too. You teach you’re young teenager about sex not because you want them to have sex now, but because they are preparing to be adults and should know what they’re getting in to before it happens, not after.
NWOslave, you are a vile, subhuman, hateful piece of shit that needs to find a deserted island and stay there for the rest of your life- away from people and especially away from women. Knowing people like you exist makes me lose more faith in humanity each day.
Your utter lack of logic, empathy and rationality makes me even wonder how you can manage to turn on a computer and spout your filth. If I ever met you or one of your ilk in real life, my brain would start oozing out of my ear just from hearing you talk for 5 minutes
GET HELP. If you are even capable of responding to help. How the hell does someone so backwards even exist? how do you go to work and hide such a rotten and hostile personality?
Love how NWO just pulls numbers out of his ass (over 80% of child abuse cases are man on female child, so even if his utterly bullshit notion that all man on male child abuse was by gay or bi men were true, it would not be anywhere near his cited numbers).
Here is a rundown of the science on the matter written by a UC Davis Psychology Professor http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Here is the APA’s basic facts about child sexual abuse page http://www.apa.org/pi/families/resources/child-sexual-abuse.aspx which includes this statement:
“In most cases, the perpetrator is male regardless of whether the victim is a boy or girl. Heterosexual and gay men are equally likely to sexually abuse children. A perception that most perpetrators are gay men is a myth and harmful stereotype. Some perpetrators are female — It is estimated that women are the abusers in about 14% of cases reported among boys and 6% of cases reported among girls.”
Organizations such as the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Child Welfare League of America have taken a similar position-stating that LGBT people are not a threat to children any more than their hetero counterparts and are equally fit parents.
The fact is that no credible scientific or child welfare organization supports NWOs position, which is why he can’t cite one. As usual, NWO has no comprehension of even the most basic concepts and facts about the things he is talking about and ends up only spewing bullshit.
Quakers you’re a filthy pedophile proponent who deserves to rot in a vat of pig shit. Your only friend should be the swine that fills the vat where you reside. Your food should consist of the steaming shit sucked directly from your only companion that fills your putrid vat. The only sound to ever escape your lips would be the constant vomit that spews from your shit breathed mouth. The only sound that you should ever hear is the screaming of your parents at the plague they brought into this world. Do you want to continue to play the insult game? Bring it on.
darksidecat…The number is 80%, but just to humor you I’ll go with the 50% that you say is the case. Once again we’ll use math. At the very most 5% of the population is you blessed LGTBQ. That means a child is 25 times more likely to be abused in an all gay community as opposed to an all straight community. Ya feel better now. Ya it’s a myth. Probably the only myth you’ve stated is the way low women sexual abusers. Hey wanna see where all those nasty abusers and rapists come from. Try looking up female headed households. I bet thats a sore spot.
Angry PUA Roissy was trying to organize a “pimp walk” on May 21st to counter-protest. But unsurprisingly like most proposed MRA activism nothing seems to have eventuated and the idea has just remained a butthurt blog post.
NWO:
I’ve already told you that same sex pedophiles are not necessarily gay. I’ve also linked to the clinical definition of pedophilia, the one that states that the child’s gender doesn’t relate to the abuser’s orientation. I’ve referenced a study that showed that, in the case of around 200 male child abusers of male children, not one of them were gay. So tell me, NWO, if the clinical definition of pedophilila is in direct contradiction to yours, are you wrong? Or is this all a big conspiracy by the LGTBQ groups?
NWO – So, I’m pretty sure I heard you say you never raped anyone. How on earth did you ever manage that with so many irresistibly dressed sluts around? I mean, you said they were “asking for it”! You turned them down? Why? How?!
Kyso K Since the asshat in the post is apparently *shudder* Canadian (utterly horrified there’s someone so vile from my country, and apparently from my province), what he means by “native” is Aboriginal (Native American).
As for NWO, I can’t read that stuff anymore. He makes me head hurt. And really makes me wonder where his parents when wrong.
And I’ve already told you kirbywarp, yes they are. I’m afraid it’s a hard sell for you to convince anyone with half of one single brain cell otherwise. 200 male abusers of boys makes them gay pedophiles. 200 male abusers of girls would make them straight pedophiles. Ya know you can be gay and a pedophile.
Really wish we had preview or edit buttons around here. Obviously I meant where his parents *went* wrong.
I treat them like the sluts they are Plymouth. They get all insulted. Too funny.
NWO:
Yes. You can be gay and be a pedophile. You can be straight and be a pedophile. You can abuse a male child and be a straight pedophile!! Its this last one you don’t get, even in the face of the actual definition of pedophilia. The DSM wasn’t exactly queer-friendly in the past, so they aren’t leaving it out just for the hell of it.
I wonder why your parents didn’t abort you worthless ass Skyal. I bet they wonder that as well.
No you can’t Kirbywarp, wake up. boy/boy girl/girl = gay.
NWO:
So.. By that logic, everybody in prison is gay? You know, with all the prison rapes going on?
Say Plymouth do you walk around near naked in front of boys entering puberty. Maybe get them all horny and then smack them down and call them pervert’s? Just wondering? Meh, I guess they were asking for it.
Only the ones that rape kirbywarp. Or are they straight as well. I’m sure theres a study that’ll bear it out.
NWO:
Huh, since I’ve never been raped, I guess nobody is gay. Please don’t forget the comma next time. In fact:
99% of prison rapists identify as heterosexual.
Oh I’m sure Kirby. Lets see, men raping men therefore they’re straight. I see now why you think I’m loopy. Goodnight.
NWO- ROFL.
Those are mighty big claims to be making about me when I’ve posted maybe 5 times on this blog. You don’t know anything about me, though I have lurked enough around here and familiarized myself with your asinine posts to know that you’re a miserable, ignorant, sniveling little turd.
If I told you that the illuminati had hidden cameras in your house, reptilians built an underground army under your street, and some horrible feminists out to enslave the male sex moved in next door, would that prompt you to move onto a deserted island?
I dont know why I should even bother trying to make you understand why your opinions about rape are so flawed, but what the hell.
If you see a nice car on the street, do you steal it? If you walk by an electronics store with a bunch of cool stuff that you really want but cant afford in the window, do you break the window and take them? If you go grocery shopping while hungry, do you start eating all the food before paying just because you’re hungry? or do you pay for it first then eat it later on?
Stealing all those things are wrong. It is also against the law. Now consider this, all those things mentioned are objects. They aren’t even alive. Yet it’s still wrong to take them. A woman, a living, breathing, HUMAN BEING is walking down the street in what you deem “slutty” attire…why do you or any of you other filthy rape apologists even think that it’s ok to just take what you want from her in the form of forced sex?
Its bad enough that I had to compare stealing THINGS to the rape of an actual human being (I apologize if I’ve upset anyone) but its the only way I can make the comparison of being tempted to take something, and taking without consent. No matter what a woman is wearing or what she is doing. If she says no, its no. End of story. And if you and most other people can control themselves to not steal food, cars and electronics simply because they want them, then the certain men who supposedly get so aroused by a woman in a mini skirt can control themselves not to rape.
And on top of all that, you idiotic MRA’s who screech about misandry are committing some of the worst kind yourselves. Implying that many men apparently cannot control themselves and act like rabid beasts when it comes to sex. What kind of BS is that? You are an insult to the majority of non rapist men out there. I mean, if Andrea Dworkin (and I may be misquoting so more advanced feminists feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) actually did imply that all men have the ability to rape, aren’t you, NWO, and the rest of the MRAs saying the exact same thing? that men can rape so us bitches better cover up? Congratulations! you agree with one of your enemies!
And I’m not claiming you yourself are a rapist NWO, but when you claim that its a woman’s fault, you apologize and dismiss the actions of all the actual rapists out there. That is extremely fucked up. Its never the victim’s fault.