Blogger: SlutWalkers deserve to be raped
From the website of the Edmonton SlutWalk 2011
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the most odious misogynist bullshit I have seen thus far on the topic of the Slutwalks: a post on The Third Edge of the Sword, a blog that seems to go out of its way to be offensive and “edgy,” that takes victim blaming to a whole new level. Here’s the basic, er, argument of the post, which the author has put in giant pink letters so we won’t miss it:
Every woman marching in the Edmonton Slut Walk is publicly declaring herself a slut. This means every woman there desires sex with any and all partners. Any sexual activity you initiate with them comes with implied consent. They cannot say no, and if they do understand all their ‘no’s mean yes. They are all asking for it. They want it bad. Now. From you. Go get ‘em!
Some other highlights:
[I]f you … dress slutty, men are going to stare at you. We’re going to catcall. We are going to tell you all sorts of sexual things we want to do to your body. And if you dress slutty and wave your ass in our face, we will do them. The organizers of this event are not oblivious to this point: what they want is a fake sexual revolution. They want to be able to impersonate sluts without actually being sluts, and that’s unacceptable. If you don’t want to be treated as a piece of meat, don’t marinate and grill yourself and sit perched on a piece of garlic toast. You dress slutty, you show off the goods, you try to get a reaction, you will get one. Hint: it’s not always going to be the one you want. …
The “reaction” he has in mind is rape. By calling rape a “reaction” instead of what it is — a criminal assault on someone, an act of sexual violence, a violation — he of course is attempting to switch the blame to the victim. He spells out his “logic” in more detail:
[W]hen you impersonate a slut we don’t fine you, and we don’t throw you in jail. There’s really only one punishment for dressing like a streetwalker when you aren’t one: you do have to endure the occasional rape. You should really suffer it in silence. Accept the character flaw within you that caused this, and move on. Police and court resources are already busy enough with real criminals: like actual rapists who do nasty things to their niece or the homeless native chick passed out under the bridge, or a conservatively dressed urban professional walking to her car, or a girl out jogging in a track suit. To equate the act of actually violating and raping one of these people with having sex with a girl who’s every square millimetre of public persona screams anybody who wants to can screw me right now is ridiculous.
Once again, this brand of misogyny leads to some conclusions that are pretty misandrist – namely, the notion that men are at heart rapists who can’t control their violent urges:
If you go out on the street in an outfit that would make Britney Spears feel uncomfortable, you do so knowing that your ultimate aim is to make men want you. Well, they want you now. Congrats. Oh, wait, you mean you didn’t understand what that implied? That in the great Bell curve of sexual congress you’ve just pushed everybody on the right-hand side of the -2 std devs line past that imaginary barrier that says “there is no power in the universe powerful enough to stop me from sliding my finger inside your panties”? I call bullshit. You do know. But you want to be a virginal slut, to dress in ways that makes men helpless to their urges but still leaves you fully in restrictive control.
The blogger concludes by arguing that the Slutwalkers are all “lying bitches” because they dress like they wasn’t to be raped, but do not actually want to be raped. Then he makes this lovely suggestion:
If your wife is one of them, I’m very very sorry. Maybe a good rape might make her a little more manageable around the house.
Now this post is an atmittedly extreme example of a misogynistic response to the Slutwalks. But the basic “logic” of this blogger’s would-be argument is essentially identical to that of many MRA and other “manosphere” pieces I’ve seen on the subject, the main difference between them being that this guy embraces the logical conclusion of his argument — that Slutwalkers deserve to be raped — while the MRAs who make essentially the same argument (and fling the same sorts of insults at the Slutwalkers) make a show of saying that they don’t really think the Slutwalkers “deserve” it. And maybe they’ve convinced themselves that this caveat means something . But in that case the extreme reaction that manosphere misogynists have had to the Slutwalks – the insults thrown at the Slutwalkers, the “jokey” references to rape, the prurient sneering – makes little sense. If you argue that women are “asking for it” when they dress like “sluts,” you’re essentially saying they deserve it. You’re making the same argument this guy is making, but pretending you aren’t.
NOTE: The graphic above is taken from the official web site for the Edmonton SlutWalk 2011, which took place a week ago. Here are some pictures of the march.
Posted on June 11, 2011, in antifeminism, evil women, misandry, misogyny, MRA, rape, rapey, reactionary bullshit, sluts, threats, violence against men/women. Bookmark the permalink. 612 Comments.
I have pretty severe Asperger’s, which means quite a lot of difficulty correctly seeing and interpreting social cues.
However, I know that a woman dressed in a way that I find attractive is not an automatic invitation for me to have sex with her. That’s obvious – it doesn’t need explaining, and I’ve needed lots of basic social norms explained to me.
If I know it, these assholes know it. They just don’t care.
As a rape survivor, and one that fits his idea of “a real crime”… I hearby call bulls- >:| and he can claim to speak for us all he wants, but my exp w/ other survivors is that NONE of us believe his crap nor feel that other survivors of rape or sexual assault are insulting us or nething -_-;; I’m getting pretty tired of being held up as a shield by ppl trying to dismiss rape against other people (women AND men, cuz this also happens to guys too “WHAT ABOUT THE REAL SURVIVORS” as well as lots of other women).. >_>;;
yeah I know that it’s supposed to be Beckish rhetoric (or perhaps Krystalish xD ) it is incredibly misandrist tho -_-;;; To me the biggest thing here is even stripping away the (presumably) over the top rhetoric, he thinks RLY lowly of men o_o;; And how much they love and care about their loved ones too :\ all men are rapists? rly? they can’t control themselves? >__>;; I dun think he speaks for all MRAs or ANY self IDed MRAs tho… I mean they don’t think of themselves as rapists, or animals, nor do they want the women in their lives to be raped either… I presume :] (and yeah yeah, straw feminism and all, you just know it’s coming >_> *sets up the big straw feminist* hmmm should prolly put the rodeo cat hat on it… Now I want to put up a straw feminist one day… like a Christmas tree… and hang stuff off of it.. like those quotes that David debunked xD )
What is with all this fucking victim-blaming? Do gay people deserve to be attacked for wearing gay pride shirts? Do attractive men deserve to be raped for not wearing shirts outside in public? Is it okay for an adult to have sex with a young, promiscuous teenager? Obviously, the answer is no. So why is it okay to rape a woman for being “slutty?” And what entails “sluttiness,” anyway? Wearing a tank-top on a hot summer day and having large breasts? Short-shorts? Mini-skirts?
It is ALWAYS the attacker’s fault, regardless of what the victim was wearing or what their personality is. The attacker should have enough sense to know what’s legal and illegal. If he/she can’t just ignore the “slut,” then they need mental help.
So if “slut” actually means “will have sex with ANY man ANY time for ANY reason” how many ACTUAL sluts does he think are out there? I have never met one. “Streetwalker” (which he mentions later) doesn’t actually refer to sluts – it refers to whores. Who will absolutely NOT have sex with “any man any time” because a) they do get to turn down customers (even if that doesn’t always work out so well) and b) the REASON is that they get PAID MONEY. So, no money no sex.
So how exactly does one even impersonate a slut if sluts don’t actually exist? I’m confused.
@Arielle that’s the thing also :| As if ppl can control for what makes OTHER ppl do things, or why OTHER ppl target ppl o_O (esp when ppl make the “they’re uncontrollable ‘psychopaths’!” argument… yet we can divine what THEIR reasoning or type are? o_O I’ve been stalked and harassed by Asianphiles… so I suppose I should just shed my skin? xD I was literally chased by a guy trying to assault me once in the winter w/ a long coat and boots… should have been even longer I guess e_e
Mind reading and laser beam eyes should come standard on every woman xD
Quick, somebody propose this at the next Feminist Conspiracy meeting! I hope we have enough skill points saved up >_>
‘The goods’? That’s my fucking body. It’s not for you.
Question about the context of “homeless native chick.” Native to what? Are homeless immigrants on the table, or native chicks are ok to rape if you find them properly sheltered? I supposw the indiginous ladies of wherever the blogger is from appreciate the reprieve but it seems like an odd distinction.
Sometimes I try to talk to guys about the threat of rape being used as a form of control over women’s actions, and they never quite get it. Posts like these are great for illustrating the idea. I’d like.to see one of these guys copy the Rebolution Modesty Survey: have a large group of women submit “do I deserve it if…” questions then make a survey and let the MRAs answer and even submit comments. Then everyone has a place to go to see how “easy” it would be for women to avoid rape by following the simple and clear guidelines that the survey will totes provide :-P
This may be from one of the more extreme sites, but I’ve seen the same sentiment in numerous posts and comments on The Spearhead. And there’s been TONS of commentary in the MRA community about the SlutWalks; it really pisses these guys off. I guess it’s because it gets right to the heart of the standard MRA attitude toward rape: it’s a useful threat to hang over women’s heads to keep them in line, and they love being able to declare that women who upset them deserve to be raped. Take that power away from them by saying, “No, actually no one deserves to be raped,” and they get all pouty.
Like when NWO was on here a week or so ago, trying to get women here to “admit” that they sometimes dress up to look attractive to men. Because if we do, apparently we have to have sex with every man we meet (but especially NWO) and allow men to rape us, or else we’re being “hypocrites.”
@Shaenon it is rly a “protection money” thing isn’t it? :\ “it’s a dangerous neighbourhood, if you don’t do what we say, I can’t be responsible for what happens to you *smashes a shelf*”
Not to say that the ppl saying it are like that.. but the using “threat of rape by “others” as behavioural control” :\
Ami. you are exactly right – it is a protection racket. My father has been phrasing it that way since I was about eight years old.
So let me get this straight, the concept of implied consent applies based on what a person wears?
And what constitutes slutty clothes?
This? but this is something that was considered risque in the 1920s. Not now.
But wait, in the 1950s, this would be considered completely inappropriate and dare I say slutty. Now it is perfectly normal and business appropriate.
Does it mean a woman in a bathing suit has given implied consent? She is not wearing full clothing after all.
And what about men? If a man is in a pair of shorts-is it okay for him to be raped by other sex? Or just wearing something like this? At what point does coverage of skin mean that a person has definitely not given even the merest hint of consent?
What about little old ladies in nursing homes? Some of them escape and are wearing nightgowns when they do-are they inviting rape? After all, nightgowns are not appropriate street wear.
Ugh, the level of fail in this is just disgusting and do not get me started on the idea that wearing a short skirt means anyone has given consent to rape.
@Spearhafoc, I’ll second that, though I am mild to moderate aspie on social cues but more severe on sensory and compulsive issues (on really bad days, I eat only toast or unsweetened cereals and drink only milk or water)
It really isn’t that hard to not go around raping people, even if you have a hard time reading social cues. Shit, I’m bisexual and kinky and have never felt an overwhelming urge to rape any of the attractive people I see. I walked past an attractive woman on my way to get groceries today. She was wearing a tank top and shorts, yet, somehow, I did not hurl myself at her all and try to grope her, nor did I particularly feel an urge to sexually assault her. Ditto for the guy in the tight t-shirt I saw at the grocery store. For most people, they want their partners to be consenting and pleased about the experience, and they only need to learn a few details about how to negotiate these things in certain situations and they do not have big problems not sexually assaulting every attractive person they see. Violent rapey people like Third Edge and those that make excused for them are the problem, not everyone else.
I posted a comment about what is slutty wear? And how does one keep up? (In the 1920s women wore miniskirted dresses. In the 1950s that was considered beyond the pale. Then ten years later perfectly okay again.)
Since I have not been part of a slutwalk, do little old ladies ever come along? They should because it shows that no matter what age, no means no.
@PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth I remember reading a letter in the Toronto Star when the first SlutWalk happened, that was from a 70 y/o woman who walked w/ her husband, so they do come along :3
So I would LOVE to see this guy have to make that claim on little old ladies.
So I would LOVE to see this guy have to make that claim on little old ladies who should show up en masse for this.
I know some awesome little old ladies who would give him a piece of their mind, and then some.
What a douchebag.
Duh. what an idiot.
But the slutwalkers should be happy, right? this is the kind of reaction they want, the kind of reaction that fuels the movement. Add a few real rapes and the slutwalks can continue in all their glory. It already makes for a good blog post.
Ugh. So many really willfully ignorant points. Where to start?
Funny, but when I was raped, I was wearing jeans, a really ugly long-sleeved shirt, and sensible shoes.
I would say that the most popular rape outfit I see from my work with people who have been raped is something like sweatpants and a baggy T-shirt. Or athletic pants and a sweater. Totally “asking for it,” right?
Rape has nothing to do with how women dress, and everything to do with how people are taught to view others. A person who thinks of women’s (or men’s, for that matter) bodies as commodities and public domain (to be commented on and touched without invitation), or has no respect or regard for others’ feelings, wants, and autonomy, is — despite hir personal proclivity toward violence — fully supporting rape culture. It’s this need to classify certain clothing as “slutty” or judge certain people as “asking for it” that is the primary problem, I think. The more a person is successful at dehumanizing others, the easier it is for hir to do violence to them, in small or big ways.
Obviously, the brain donor who writes Third Edge seems to have a very low opinion of both men and women, as well as a tenuous grasp on reality. I’m almost afraid to ask whether he goes around raping people who aren’t sufficiently covered up. I’m guessing, however, that the answer is no. If he does, it would be because he’s a rapist who rapes people, and not because the sight of partially unclad bodies demands it.
This is something else I was thinking about b/c this is also something rly important to me, and I hate this attitude in our society (and something else related to the f-ed upness of hockey culture in Canada)… the victim blaming/shaming culture around rape and the idea of rape as punishment and that ppl “deserve” rape is also a major part of why ppl in our society are so tolerant w/ prison rape -_-;;
I mean we see it in TV shows all the time, the hero cops threatening perps w/ prison rape in the same way “if you don’t tell me what I want to know, you’ll be in jail and I can’t control what ppl do to you”… and we’re supposed to CHEER ON these heroes (whenever cops do this on TV I just headdesk) and IRL, with all the prison rape jokes ppl make… and when you call ppl out on it,it’s the same as why ppl are okay w/ doing it on TV, or if you read the comments in newspapers when somebody goes to jail… it’s OKAY b/c he or she chose to commit crimes, it’s OKAY b/c they “deserve” it, it’s OKAY b/c they did something bad… it’s part of the punishment >:| (plus there’s usually a nice helping of homophobia there too) It’s OKAY b/c “you shouldn’t have committed a crime in the first place” (sound familiar?) Prison rape victims are victims too, and they’re NO LESS victims just b/c of what they’ve done, or what you thought they should have done, or shouldn’t have done… and as usual, we act like the RAPISTS just kinda are… they’re uncontrollable animals that are convenient for us to use as threats and leverage and punishment >:O
And it’s NOT okay >:O And nobody DESERVES rape. And rape is not and should never be used as “punishment” or a “threat” to get what we want >:O And so this is an example of how something RLY important to so many ppl to fight is also srsly affected by victim blaming and seeing rape as punishment >:|
The other thing I was thinking of is the case of David Frost, the sports agent who recruited many talented junior hockey players and allegedly raped them and forced them to have sex with him, each other, and girls (and forced the girls too). >:O The problem was that b/c he was such a hero to the community, nobody would testify against him, and even some of his victims were too scared to b/c of the victim shaming attitudes and him being a hero and also the implication that admitting that would be admitting you’re gay. -_-;
The girls were not added by the Crown as complainants b/c they thought it would hurt their case, but they DID testify against him and what happened, but they got ripped to shred on cross for being sluts, for being “puck bunnies” (i.e. hockey groupies) and for wanting some of the sex (with the boys). The victim blaming and slut shaming to discredit them WORKED and Frost was found Not Guilty of raping THE BOYS UNDER HIS TRUST >:O So there’s another case where slut shaming, victim blaming, etc etc can have an even bigger impact than ppl may think >:| These attitudes and myths and LIES hurt us ALL, and it has lasting REAL effects that harm real people when we go along w/ it, when we perpetrate it and when we perpetuate it. >:O
I’m getting really tired of these assholes who claim to speak for all men, especially when they assume that all men are just as big assholes as they.
I call utter bullshit shenanigans on this asshole. I realize that I really shouldn’t be surprised that there are people out there who actually feel this way but… damn. I am beyond shocked and horrified. Funny thing, when I was sexually assaulted I was wearing jeans and a T-shirt. Huh my bad I guess I didn’t realize that short sleeves were so enticing. /sarcasm
As for guys supporting SlutWalk, my bf told me to get the dates for the one in our area so that he can come with me. But apparently this means he is not a “real man” or whatever. Ok before I devolve into even more incoherent rage, I’m just going to leave this here because I feel like it says exactly what I mean.
Eactly, CB… Seriously. I mean, apart from all the vile things they say about women, they are saying that men are just animalistic beasts that go into rape mode every time a lady shows a bit of skin. Heres the thing: if a woman were walking naked down the street, she still doesn’t “deserve” to be raped. Also anybody who talks about having to “endure the occasional rape,” as if it were no more than an uncomfortable stare or a catcall.. ugh…
Once again, take a big ole bag of cash put it in a clear plastic bag and strut around a really poor section of town and really flaunt it. Shove it in their faces. Tease them with it, cause ya know they want it then laugh at them and take it away. Sooner or later you’re going to get robbed and anyone who says they don’t deserve to get robbed is a liar.
All of you women claim to dress up sexy (with as little as possible) cause it makes you “feel” good. That’d be your base animal instinct to attract men which fulfills that part of your sexuality. So what you want is to be praised for being unable/unwilling to control your sexuality while wanting men to be in complete control of their sexuality.
Womens lack of self control will naturally cause sexual dysfunction/frustration in young boys entering puberty, when women walk around like this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qP8D4HxpSMQ/SG7WY07ItYI/AAAAAAAABR4/loZ9jYtWsfI/s1600/bikini1.jpg or perhaps a few more square inches of material. But of course you don’t care about men/boys what so ever. Women like it even when they torment young boys, it’s funny. They like not having any self control and being praised for their lack of self control. Women (mothers) will tell the young boys to cover and hide their evil sexuality while at the same time tell young girls to flaunt their’s.
Now if men would walk around like this and chat up young girls entering puberty would feminists come running to defend mens right to flaunt their sexuality? Not likely. They’d be calling them perverts for trying to sexually excite young girls while once again proclaiming young girls “right” to dress and act anyway they want. Apparently the motto is every woman/girl owns her sexuality and can do whatever she wants while mens sexuality must be controlled.
A point on a previous thread about pedophiles I made I need to know your logic behind your responses. I stated NAMBLA and butterfly kisses, (two sides of the same coin, pro pedophelia). Now these groups of vile people are gay/lesbian, they proclaim it from the highest mountains, go to all the parades, ect. ect. I also stated men who diddle little boys and women who diddle little girls are either LG or B. Yet somehow I’m wrong and various links were provided which somehow “proved” these vile creatures were hetrosexual. Now all links aside, it doesn’t take a five star genius to figure out if a grown man likes little boys or a grown woman like little girls, not only are they sick but are either proud LGBs or swing that way. Use a little common sense. I know you love your faction but c’mon.
Capt B-robe, you don’t speak for anyone calling himself a man. You’re a feminist. Kinda says it all.
You know, if men are so helpless to resist when they see something that makes them get a boner… how come there’s not an epidemic of man on man rape?
I mean, I know why not- it’s because men aren’t helpless slaves to the little head.
But by this blogger’s (ahem) logic wearing something that a man finds arousing is an invitation to all comers., so to speak. And there are men out there who find tight jeans and tee shirts really really hot on other guys. So, aren’t the guys wearing those things just asking for it?
“Your honor, it’s not my fault! He was wearing a muscle shirt! And he has those really hot tattoos just showing- you know he wanted it!” “Well, in that case- all charges are hereby dropped. And as for you, young man, let that be a lesson to you. Going out late at night and drinking dressed in such scandalous clothes, what did you think would happen?”
Oh wait- only straight men are incapable of restraining themselves?
Please note- I am not saying all men are rapists or all straight men are rapists or all gay men or whatever. I’m pointing out that the blogger David quoted seems to believe it. Which suggests to me he kind of hates men almost as much as he hates women. Ugh.
@NWO
“Yet somehow I’m wrong and various links were provided which somehow “proved” these vile creatures were hetrosexual. Now all links aside, it doesn’t take a five star genius to figure out if a grown man likes little boys or a grown woman like little girls, not only are they sick but are either proud LGBs or swing that way. Use a little common sense. I know you love your faction but c’mon.”
No, links were provided to prove that orientation and pedophelia are unrelated! Some abusers are gay, some are straight, and what orientation they are doesn’t predict which gender of child they like to abuse! You are being incredibly dense right now…
Apparently my XXL male hoodie that goes down to my knees is now apparently a giant bag of money xD OOOKAAAYYYY XDDD
I also love how apparently boys never encounter scantily clad women or our bodies in comic books, tv and movies, posters or porn they sneak xD But me walking outside, BOOM… OMG AMIGEDDON!!!!!
Ami Angelwings: destroying young male minds since One Million Years BC xD
So, that thing that David and other people were saying before, about this Third Edge moron’s position being extreme, but really, when you look at what other MRAs are saying, not all that extreme after all?
Thanks for being our real-life on-site example, Slaver!
I don’t really know what to say to someone who doesn’t understand that one can own one’s sexuality without raping other people. Or that people who fuck little children are pedophiles. You get grosser and grosser, Slaver.
I’ve never seen an MRA make the logical corollary to this argument: if a gay man sees a straight man walking down the street, and decides that the straight man is dressed slutty, then the straight man must be asking to be raped by the gay man, and therefore deserves to be raped by the gay man.
The logic seems pretty straightforward to me.
@NWO Theft is a crime, regardless of where the victim stored their cash. The people who stole it are still thieves, and will still be prosecuted as such. Now, by all means, please go ahead and explain to us how walking around with all that soft, unarmored flesh is an invitation to be stabbed to death.
Need to know… I know women are so helpless to resist their base animal instincts they get it in lather when they get attention from men for wearing very little clothing. They then get drunk and after they having consensual sex suddenly have an attack of morality, and cry date rape.
Kirbywarp…You’re in denial. The majority of pedophile crime is same sex which is done by the minority (LGB) of the population. The percent of same sex pedophilia is 80% and at the most LGB makes up 5% of the population. Which means a child is 76 times as likely to sexually abused in an all gay community as an all straight community. Do the math.
o_O
I have base animal instincts? o_O Interreessstttinnngggg…
WITH THE SEDUCTION OF A KITTY!!!
RAWRRRR!!!!
I prefer my acidic plant instincts! *flings acid everywhere*
MUHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDD
@NWO:
I’m going to say this one more time, to see if I can reach you. SAME SEX PEDOPHILIA IS NOT HOMOSEXUALITY! The two are vastly different phenomena. I honestly don’t know how to put it any simpler for you.
As usual Ami you pointlessly yammer incoherently.
And yet you understood it XD
I’m not even going to bother with the pretty pictures for this one. This shit is just too vile.
I’m asking a serious question here: have you ever, personally, raped anyone? I’m genuinely curious, you malignant tumour on the ass-cheek of humanity.
Ami Angelwings: Putting Trolls On Tilt since 2007 XDDDD
Im going to say this one more time kirbywarp. Yes it is. Holy shit dude, snap out of your leftist love of gayness. Everyone in NAMBLA and butterfly kisses is gayyyyyyyyyyyyy. They admit it, are proud of it and love it. They also openly profess wanting to legalize pedophelia. They use the same backward logic you’re using. They say all us bad straight folks want to deny children their loooooooove. They say were denying the fact that children are sexual and all us bad straight folks are denying their sexuality. They say children own their sexuality. Sound familiar?
Slaver, any research on pedophilia will show that pedophiles can’t properly be labeled homosexual or heterosexual because they’re sexually attracted to children, not adults. Some research even points to a child’s availability as determinant, not the child’s sex.
I know that insisting on things that have been successfully proved wrong is kinda your “thing” — I just like to add a bit of reality to the conversation.
Children cannot consent to sex, you fuck! Adults can!
What about that is so difficult to understand, you festering pile of guano‽
No spearhafoc. I’ll ask you a serious question. Have you ever raped any little boys/girls?
The answer to your question, Spear, is “It doesn’t count as rape because she was asking for it.”
No. Neither do I go around claiming it’s perfectly all right to.
Of course they can’t searhafoc you filthy pile of putrid vomit. I’m against that are you? Doesn’t sound like it to me.
I’m the one whose against it you vile piece of filth. How about you?
XD
I think the more pertinent question is first if NWO agrees w/ what was in the OP xD
Also we’re ALL against it, just some of us aren’t missing the target 400 feet wide, and NWO is xD (tho I’m sure he thinks it’s the opposite XDD he sees DA TROOF!!!)
NWO:
This is the last thing I’m gonna say to you, because obviously you are unable to comprehend anything even vaguely related to nuance. Here is the wikipedia page for NAMBLA. Of particular note is the “Relations with LGBT organizations” section, where pretty much every single LGBT group have severed any ties with NAMBLA. Even if most NAMBLA members (1,100 members at last count) are gay, every other gay organization has “disowned” them (in a sense). Studies in psychology show that the two are seperate phenomena.
Like I said, this is a tactic (equating the two) commonly seen in homophobes to try to scare people into thinking that all gays are child molestors. I’m assuming you fit this category (“Holy shit dude, snap out of your leftist love of gayness.”).
Oh really Bee, keep telling yourself that as your children are indoctrinated in school to be gay. http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html
I wonder whose teaching them. Wanna guess if the “instructor” is getting his rocks off?
Also, Slavey, why haven’t you raped anyone if you don’t actually think there’s anything wrong with raping a woman who’s “asking for it”?
Huh. Someone asks NWO if he’s a rapist, and all of a sudden he’s flinging accusations of pedophilia at the first name he sees. I know talking in circles and ignoring straight-up questions is nothing new for him, but that’s still pretty damn suspicious. :-/
Gee kirbywarp, would that be like feminism “disowning” all the “bad radical” elements while garnishing the inroads, laws, ect. made by those elements?
BTW, Slavey, if a big, strong gay dude decided that you were dressed slutty, and raped you, then it would your fault for provoking him, right? And remember, by your own logic, it’s the attacker, not the victim, who decides whether the victim is dressed slutty. XD
“Who’s”, short for “who is”. “Whose” is the possessive pronoun.
Also, Spearhafoc, why haven’t you raped any little boys since you support your LGBTQ faction so much. They must be “asking for it”.
I can play the insult game as well you filthy pedophile. Ya wanna keep on playing?
“Wanna guess if the “instructor” is getting his rocks off?”
Was xie a pedophile? Then … I don’t know — maybe? But, is this actually going to the place where you deduce that gay teachers are predators? Because I feel like that’s where this is going, and that’s disgusting.
Oh no a grammar error on my part spearhafoc. What does that give you the right to do? beastiality
No, they’re not. By definition, they’re not.
You’re the only person here claiming anyone is “asking” to be raped. The rest of us are against rape.
OMG he’s going into gay agenda thing now? xD He practically straws himself xD The Illuminati, the Jewish Conspiracy, now the Gay Pedophile Agenda xD
Next he’s going to quote that Onion article that the anti-gay “family” group in Canada quoted from in their “research” to prove the gay agenda in our schools xD (they could have just asked me… I’m a pretty big wheel in the Canadian chapter of The Gay Conspiragenda :D )
I wonder what other conspiragendas he believes in o_O
No WONDER I bother him so much xD I belong to pretty much every group he hates (except I’m not Jewish, but I AM Chinese, so I guess that makes me a communist invasion spy too… from those foreigners trying to outbreed and takeover Teh West xD )
We have a wonderful language. Stop abusing it. Please.
Also, Slavey, you tease you, you haven’t answered MY question!
Eh, what the hell.. I’m a glutton for punishment it seems…
@NWO:
There was a study done in MA, finding the orientation of about 175 child abusers. Guess what? Not one of them were gay! The truth is that child abuse is widespread, most child abusers are male, and a fair proportion of the children molested are male as well. But the majority orientation of the abusers? Straight. As I’ve said over and over, pedophilia is not attraction to the gender of a child, its attraction to pre-pubescence.
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Bee, reguardless of the teachers intentions. Don’t ya think prepubecent children are a little young to be taught any sexuality? C’mon they should playing hopscotch, jump rope, or poking a wasp nest with a stick and running like the devil himself is chasing them. Not being taught any type of sexual mores. Lets them be kids for a while before there introduced into the magical joy of homosexuality.
NWO in over the line… he’s not waiting…. he shoo… no wait.. he picked up the puck! He’s running behind the net! He… he spiked the puck! :O TOUCHDOWN!!
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C’mon, subbie boy! Answer the question! You know you want to!
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So close with that post. So close.
Kirbywarp, dude, wake up. Same sex child abusers are gay. I hate to burst your bubble but there are bad gay people. Why are you sticking up for them?