Fear and loathing on a date
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The Men’s Rights subreddit on Reddit is awash in mini-manifestos. My favorite of the most recent batch, a rousing 3-part rant running under the title “Do not fear them!”
Who is “them,” you ask?
Women who might just decide that they don’t really want to have sex with some dude who keeps going on about how men are the most oppressed group in the world.
Responding, apparently, to a comment in an earlier thread suggesting “that being publicly vocal about the way men’s rights are trampled on and ignored is a great way to lose the opportunity of getting laid,” manifesto writer Kuppers argues that it just ain’t so — but when it is, just bite your tongue for as long as it takes to get into her pants.
He starts off with a strange variant on the notion that there are plenty of fish in the sea. If you feel that women won’t want to have sex with your Men’s-Rights-espousing self, Kuppers suggests, it’s
because your brain was conditioned in a small communal/tribal setting. A group of angry women was a serious threat to your prospects of reproduction. As you know, women often act like herd animals, and view acceptance and appreciation from their peers of their choice of man to be important. This is completely moot today. There are millions of fish in the sea.
Aside from that final truism I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about. I don’t recall growing up in anything that might possibly be considered – literally or figuratively – a “tribal setting” ruled over by a group – sorry, a herd – of “angry women” hell-bent on keeping me from reproducing. Is this a common experience? Also, I have precisely zero interest in “reproduction.” Indeed, I sort of make it a policy to only have sex with women who are at least as interested in preventing reproduction as I am.
On to point two in this curious document, which is that ladies love dudes with strong opinions:
Women, while they do not always explicitly say so and sometimes contradict so, sincerely do appreciate a man who has strong internal beliefs and principles, and does not compromise that for the sake of assuaging someone else’s sensitivities, including theirs. A man who is willing to pretend he is something he is not, isn’t attractive on a deep masculine level to women.
True, up to a point, but you might want to keep all that shit about women being angry reproduction-threatening herd animals to yourself. That might not go over so well on your first Starbucks coffee date. Or ever. Protip: Misogyny aside, very few people want to get with people who refer to sex as “reproduction.”
But if your desire for sex outweighs your manly desire to be truthful about your obnoxious beliefs, well, that’s all good too – if by “all good” you mean “you can still have angry sex with women you despise if you just keep your pie hole shut for a few hours.” Or, as Kuppers puts it in his third and final point, which he apparently doesn’t realize completely contradicts point number two:
The kind of woman who a) wants you to be subordinate to her crazy foaming feminist nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap, well-protected fuck anyway. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get her into bed, but you’d be mad to pursue anything more serious with a woman like that.
Men’s Rightsers – such romantics at heart!
Posted on June 3, 2011, in antifeminism, evil women, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 426 Comments.
Actually Mr. Kobold I’m in Texas right now sweating my ass off. Banging out, today a mere 10 hours but averaging 13 a day. I’m afraid I’m well traveled.
You however are no doubt worldly in all your brilliant glory.
The problem with that, Sally, is that it really doesn’t happen to the extent described by the fymynysts, and is instead used as a springboard to hate men.
Feminism=Anti-men hate movement
Then you’re my kinda girl Lady Victoria von Syrus.
I’ll bet a shiver of revulsion just traveled down your spine.
MRAL: Once again, that’s exactly what we’re trying to tell you about your constant complaints.
The streets aren’t filled with women who hate you. They’re filled with normal people who don’t know you, didn’t notice your eye, and paid no more attention to you than they did to any other normal person on the street that they didn’t know. And yet you’re using your perceived abuse as a springboard to hate women.
MRAL: my last word of advice to you, because honestly? Your thickness is starting to wear me out. Good job.
Don’t talk about feminists here. Don’t talk about fymynysts here. Don’t talk about feminism, and don’t talk about what you assume are the experiences of every woman who has the privilage of not having to deal with you here. Respond to the people present; treat them the way they deserve base on what they say, not how you think they are. We are way beyond feminism at this point, MRAL, at this point we’re just trying to drill into you some basic human empathy.
Gotta go. starving
@Lady Victoria von Syrus In the fall and spring I go out a lot in a men’s XXL hoodie I have lying around xD It’s super warm and I like just being casual. I’ve been hit on a LOT like that too xD So obv I’m dressing up to get attn from men! xD My giant hoodie of +100 wanton sluttiness! :D (I prefer wonton sluttiness actually :D I’m a total wonton slut :3 YUM!)
Nice flounce, NWO…
The problem with that, Sally, is that it really doesn’t happen to the extent described by the fymynysts, and is instead used as a springboard to hate men.
Liar. You’ve been reduced to lying now, to save your simplistic and twisted worldview. It can’t possibly be that women just want to be treated as people instead of fuck-toys, no, they’re just looking for EXCUSES to hate men.
Look. Treating me as a fuck-toy in public makes me hate whoever’s doing it. You want me to stop agitating against strange men treating me like a fuck-toy? I can only conclude that you WANT me to hate men. Indeed, the construct of feminism as being all about man-hatred is necessary for you to maintain your twisted little worldview.
Go back to your rumpus room, you useless liar.
Currently wearing: baggy jeans, baggy old T-shirt. They match because they’re both too big.
MRAL, at the top of this thread I mentioned my confusion over a man’s ability to have PIV sex with a woman that he dislikes. As someone who has done it, could you explain how it works? Not to put too fine a point on it but, it has always baffled me how a man could maintain an erection while having sex with a woman he dislikes.
“Actually Mr. Kobold I’m in Texas right now sweating my ass off.”
Shit son get that basement insulated.
“Banging out, today a mere 10 hours but averaging 13 a day.”
Is this some weird local pick up term? Do I need to bring the Sergeant here to say the mandatory statement of what comes from Texas?
“You however are no doubt worldly in all your brilliant glory.”
In fact, yeah, you want a quick rundown?
I’ve found that what I’m wearing has zero predictive ability on whether or not I’m harassed. But then, I’ve only had 35 years of experience in a female body in the world, and was probably spitting on Mr. Al while I was at it.
“Gotta go. starving”
Straight sashay.
Currently wearing: khakis and a polo, and dark socks… Never got a chance to change when I got home from work…
What I nearly always wear: my favorite blue wind pants (soft fabric, not hard), and some form of t-shirt.
I’m getting tired of people dogpiling me and then getting all pissy when I don’t respond to every one of their queries within five minutes. I’m also getting tired to being called ten thousand foul names, so I’ll be taking a temporary break. Kirbywarp, I’ll think about what you said regarding my own views on the world and the feminists. The parallels are there, I’ll grant, but my immediate reaction is to think that the situations are different. Still, I need some time to think without being dogpiled by 50 posters who all hate me. I’ll be back.
Currently wearing jean short shorts and an awesome cami I bought from Garage :D And I’m indoors! :O *SHOCK* *AWE*
It’s hot today xD
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Okay okay, I admit it, I’m dressing slutty to seduce my cat >_>;;
XDDD
Fatman: I too share your curiosity. Speaking as a man, with manly bits, I find they function rather horribly around people I don’t like. So how would you go about despising your partner while doing the horizontal mambo? Or having sex for that matter…
Thanks Ami. I know you were just picking my name at random as a “generic man”. Still, your point is a good one. Even in my “omega” days, I didn’t go through life seeing each interaction with a woman as a deliberately inflicted humiliation, the way MRAL does.
So, there’s an answer for you, MRAL. Not even other “omegas” think like you. You’ve dug yourself into a pit, and it’s only going to get better when you stop digging.
I don’t hate you MRAL, I mostly feel sorry for you, but I think that I am probably in the minority on this board in that respect.
“Still, I need some time to think without being dogpiled by 50 posters who all hate me. I’ll be back.”
We’ll be here when you do.
Fatman: There’s a trend here. Each of us have gone from mocking to helping to feeling sorry, and at least for my self, a little bit of loathing. Don’t be too hard on us. :P
MRAL, the folks here have been far more patient, understanding and compassionate with you than you deserve. Many of them have met your angry, bitter, borderline violent little spiels with sincere attempts to help you get past whatever it is in your life that’s made you the way you are and I commend them for their efforts.
However I think it’s painfully apparent at this point that you have way too much invested in being the way you are to ever change. You’re not strong enough to even ponder for more than a moment that you might be wrong because it would mean the destruction of everything you’ve become, everything you think makes you you. So instead you’ll retreat into your little fantasy world where you’re the noble man oppressed by the evil women and the traitor males that serve them, where someday they’ll get what’s coming to them and you’ll get what you’re owed by the world.
Rattle your chains at us all you want. There’s not a link of them you didn’t forge yourself.
“I’ll be back.”
It’s cool if you don’t. I mean, I know some posters are just fine to make fun of you considering how ridiculously awful you are as a boy, but I think quite a few people are getting fed up will all the colossal logic fails you spout off on the regular.
I lurve my hoodie xD I wore it last night too cuz it cooled off a ton… it goes all the way down to my knees and it’s like 4X wider than my body xD I can tuck my legs into it and ball up if I want to :D
Starting a new meme: does nebody else here have something like that? :D Like something super comfortable and casual or w/e that they just adore regardless of how it looks? :o (tho in my case apparently men just LOVE it cuz it’s SO SLUTTY and REVEALING xD )
Ami: my pants. Its amazing they don’t have big gaping holes them for how much I wear them. But they’re so comfy! And they fit! That’s big for a big guy like me. :)
Ami: I’ve reached the point in my life where I do care enough about how I look that I won’t wear just anything, no matter how comfy or convenient it is.
Oh, I understand the loathing Kirbywarp and I don’t look down on anyone for feeling it. I just see in MRAL the image of the path I could have taken had I not been lucky enough back in my early 20s to have patient feminists help me get over my feelings of entitlement.
I would love to know why the hell MRAL thinks it’s perfectly all right to lecture survivors on how they ought to deal with the trauma of their experiences. Don’t let it define me? Great. I would love to avoid that. In fact, I try to avoid it. But that’s kind of hard to do when faced with people who believe that they are entitled to some sort of response from me if they happen to see me on the street. My ex thought he was entitled to something too.
I don’t owe you anything. And I don’t often respond to men on the street because I’ve been assaulted. I’ve been hit on by strangers since puberty. I can’t even walk down the street of my very small Ohio town without worrying that some asshole is going to ogle me, whistle at me, or even slow down his car and follow me down the street until he’s close enough to ask me what I’m doing tonight. So fuck off,MRAL. My patience is exhausted.
@Johnny it doesn’t have to be something that makes you look bad (I meant regardless of how it looks as in, that I’m not talking about appearance of the clothing :) ) is there nething that’s a favourite piece of clothing to you that you love wearing :)
“Rattle your chains at us all you want. There’s not a link of them you didn’t forge yourself.”
YES.
And it would be so nice to have a thread that doesn’t involve Little Boy MRAL and his Tiny Problems . . .
jumping to the end here since it seems like more of the same back and forth. I’d just like to say that MRAL demonstrated on a previous thread that he wasn’t dealing on the up and up with us. He knows at some level that what he’s saying is not appropriate. He’s not willing to have someone he respects, who respects him, read any of the comments he made here.
Personally I would not be ashamed of a single comment I’ve made, but then I try to be ethical in all of my dealings.
also, not responding in 5 minutes? heh, I gave you all night and most of the day on another thread and never heard anything back other than “I’ve had bruises”*. Nothing that ever addressed the meat of the issue, despite the response being to one of my questions.
*close paraphrase, can’t be bothered to look up the exact wordings.
Then you’re my kinda girl Lady Victoria von Syrus.
I’ll bet a shiver of revulsion just traveled down your spine.
Yeah, kinda.
I also have a closet full of formal gowns and costume dresses that I wear with some regularity. I just made myself a super cute rockabilly dress (black cotton with a cherry-print pattern and green banding at the top, it has a gathered bustline that makes my waist seem narrow and accentuates my cleavage, with a flared skirt that goes down to about my knees), a strapless dress (denim with an embossed rose print and ruffles at the skirt, with a belt to match) and a white denim tank dress. Because summer is coming, and I don’t really want to sweat it out in thick jeans and t-shirts, nor do I think that I have to completely erase all hints of the fact that I have a sexuality to win male approval. The sad fact is, so many of my body parts (even my feet) have been sexualized by the culture at large, so it’s impossible to go out in anything but a burqa or ill-fitting, baggy and colorless clothes.
So how about instead of insisting that women dress the way YOU think they should dress, we change the culture so that a woman can show some calf or cleavage without a bunch of atavistic misogynists shouting ATTENTION WHORE and SLUT at her?
Every thread he’s on, the book thread excepted, devolves into a discussion about him. His eye, his hate, his spoiled, whiny bullshit. Y’all are too nice.
Did NWO flounce already? I’ve never seen someone spout ream after ream of erroneous suppositions without so much as batting an eyelash and yet run away with his tail between his legs every time someone points out that he can’t spell.
It should be so easy in real life.
Hey, NWO: what if your man hates it when you pay? I mean seriously hates it; doesn’t like going dutch, doesn’t like when you pay, and sometimes makes a fuss about it. What should a woman do in that situation?
And if women have been brainwashed into accepting the communist plot of feminism, and society would be better if women returned to being homemakers, dependent on men for financial stability, then wouldn’t we all just be prostitutes?
If having sex with a man who buys you dinner makes you whore, then what is a woman whose complete economic viability depends on the man with whom she has sex?
MRAL: try reading some actual feminists. The Manboobz Forum on Library Thing has a list of authors. I know it will not be easy (much like reading some of the right wing screeds for me) but at least then you are learning what real feminists do believe. After finishing these books, it may be that you realise you do not disagree with anything they have to say. You might even agree with some of it.
And maybe, just maybe, try to not belittle or deny someone’s experience simply because YOU have not dealt with such a thing might be a good idea to avoid being called a rude little snot. Just a thought.
NWOSlave; actually yeah, I have never had sex with a guy because he bought me dinner or not had sex with a guy who bought me dinner under the expectation that it would lead to sex. With ALL OF MY BOYFRIENDS EVER we have either spit the check or alternated who paid date-to-date. And we had sex when we both wanted to or not when one or both of us didn’t.
I’m still a slut though because I’ve slept with more than 9 people! And, yeah, I happen to think I’m still worthy of respect. Which apparently makes me a hypocrite somehow, though I don’t understand how. Apparently having sex with attractive people who I like without false assumptions is worthy of disrespect…. somehow. I don’t get it.
Nobinayamu – “What if your man hates in when you pay?”
Uh, if that was me I’d dump his ass so fast his head would spin. I do not need to deal with that kind of bullshit.
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth, thank you for the pointer to the Manboobz Forum!
Welcome Hipodameia.
So hey, if the woman pays all the time, is the man a slut/user? Or does that only work against women?
Oh don’t worry Skyral, every body pays in their own way. *winks knowingly*
Well Plymouth if you’re a slut and someone treats you like a slut don’t get in a huff about it. You’re a slut.
Whoa, only attractive people are good enough for you aye? You’ll mock MRAL if he dares calls a woman a fatty, yet only attractive are good enough for the lovely Plymouth and her 9X used goods. This would be the hypocrisy, (spelled correctly) to which I was alluding.
Welcome back NWO: So tell me, are you gonna answer my question now? How do a man and woman date without one or the other being a slut/abuser?
My answer is that their is no case where that is true, but if both parties are worried and happen to date a lot they can alternate. Or whatever. But I’m more interested in how you think it should work.
I’ve answered you twice kirbywarp, please refer to my previous answer I gave you.
I find it amazing that not one woman here has ever gotten a free drink, movie, meal, ect. from a man. Is this planet bullshit, cause it ain’t earth.
Wow, Slavey, got a chip on the shoulder there?
When I met my husband and we had the “are we going to have sex?” chat it pretty much went like this: I have had sex with many people! I also have had sex with many people! Good on that, shall we have sex together with some contraception? Sounds fabulous!
I really don’t understand this concept of a vagina getting worn out, especially if you’re not one of those crazies who treat it like a clown car. A woman who has never expelled a baby from her nethers is evil/bad/etc. if she’s had sex with more than one person, or nine, I don’t care, but one who has had a baby is somehow less used in the vagina portion than one who’s only had penises up in there. The sense, it does not make.
I am not darkside cat. Cheese=squirrels. Get over it you nasty little shits that are undeserving of life(but don’t you dare say I hate you lot or I’ll rip out your left eyeball).
*Practicing my MRAL style reasoning*
The freemasons are trying to feed me to the lizard people! Red Scare! Red Scare! If you are a commie, you’re a bitch! If you aren’t a commie, you are a bitch!
*NWO style*
Hehe, I farted. Smelled like you.
*EWME style*
NWO: “Everyone pays their own way.”
Kirbywarp: “Doesn’t answer my question. At all. Even in the slightest. Do women pay by having sex? Isn’t this making them sluts? Do women pay for dates by being labeled sluts/abusers? Again, where is your logic?”
NWO: “You asked who should pay, I said pay your own way.”
And yet if men pay for the date, by your reasoning women are sluts if they have sex, and abusers if they don’t. Presumably if women pay, the men are sluts/abusers. How does repeating “pay your own way” answer the question? Unless you think women are sluts/abusers no matter what happens on a date…
To be fair, Plymouth, in this instance alone I am being a bit hyperbolic for the sake of making the point that some men are as locked into gender roles as some women. He doesn’t “hate” it when I pay, but when we first started seeing each other it weirded him out a bit. It just wasn’t part of his experience.
But I tell you what, we almost didn’t make it to the second date.
Lady Victoria von Syrus…If you want to accentuate your cleavage you do this to garnish attention from men, right? There can’t be another reason because if there was you would do that every day when your home alone. I just want you to admit is all.
You say “society” even sexualizes your feet. Have you ever put toenail polish on? If so than it’s you who sexualizes your feet, not society. All those clothes and make up you wear is YOU sexualizing yourself, NOT society. YOU are to blame. Not only that, but since I normally, (vitually always) wear a t-shirt, a loose pair of shorts in the summer and sneakers, you find it somehow demeaning to dress as I.
So the “sexuality” feminists/women claim men shouldn’t judge women by, you dress up like a dresden doll. What you want is to be judged by your “sexuality” when you want to be judged that way. Perhaps women should wear shirts that say “I wish to be judged as an object” when shes feeling sexy. And a shirt that says, “I’m more than just a sex object” when she feels objectified.
Oh man, I’m feeling a little.. damp.. wait.. oh god. I’ve been spit on. NWO is spitting on me! *shock horror gasp*
Coming to the defense of NWOSlave (good god, that makes me feel ill) I believe the point he is trying to get across is that the only way that a woman can avoid being either a slut or a user is if they BOTH people on the date pay. I.E. going Dutch.
I hope I never have to do that again. *shudder*
On the other side of the ‘women do go out without dressing up’ coin (and I do that too), most of the women I know DO occasionally get dressed up just when they’re home, or when they’re going out to an event that’s only girls (showers, get togethers, etc). Not every day, because it can be a lot of effort. But yes, on occasion. So much for the women only dressing up to get men to lust after them.
footnotegirl:
If that were the case I’d happily agree. I’ve actually said something similar in a previous post. What NWO seems to think, though, is that sex is a one-way thing: women give something to men, therefore there is a “buying” process, therefore “slut.” He doesn’t seem to understand that it takes two to tango, therefore who pays for dinner isn’t as relevant.
B/c nobody noticed amidst the end of the universe alphabet me and Kirby were doing last night, I’ll ask again :D (and given where I’m asking I might get a wide variety of responses xD )
But to the straight guys here (tho ppl who aren’t straight guys w/ opinions/exp can comment too :3 )
if a guy were rly tired from a late night the day before and just finished work and wanted to go home and sleep, would he go with a girl clothes shopping (esp if he doesn’t like shopping or being in a clothing store filled with girls) and stay with her in the dressing room line and give comments on her clothes, if he didn’t like her? :O (and she didn’t ask)
(that being like like, and not rly good friends)
(this is actually just a question, it has nothing to do with nething going on in this thread :3 )
Hmm. that came out wrong… I don’t mean that I would agree that “the only way that a woman can avoid being either a slut or a user is if they BOTH people on the date pay,” cause again, two-way street. So… I guess I wouldn’t agree… but having both pay or alternating or whatever works is a good compromise.
Thx for explaining the painfully obvious to Kirbwarp, footnotegirl.
Your second paragraph however is a poor cop out. C’mon now, women dress up to attract mens attention, period.
spit the check
Freudian slip, or intentional?
NWO, 1955 called. It wants you back.
Thank goodness hellkell, women had dignity and honor back then. They were respected because they earned it.
I thought everybody in the world knew that women mostly dress to entertain other women. Like a straight man is going to care what brand of shoes I have on.
Well NWO, thanks for your clear and insightful explanation, which in no way is obscure or could be misinterpreted.
This is a question for the ladies out there, actually. I’ve met girls who tell me they like to “feel pretty” sometimes (dress up and wear makeup and such). So does “feel pretty” mean “look pretty to men”, meaning “looking to attract men?” (assuming hetero for now…)
My sense is, if that isn’t the case, that you can dress up to look good for everybody, not just who you have sex with. A man can dress up in a suit and tie and look nice to other men without sexual overtones, perhaps with women its the same thing? (perhaps its blindingly obvious as well, and I’m denser than usual tonight?)
NWO, have you seen the car ads making fun of women driving? Hardly respect…
What the fuck difference does it make to you, NWOaf? Why a woman wears this thing or that thing–why do YOU care? What difference is it to you?
Yeah, “respect” in the 1950s meant that 90% of the interesting professions were barred to you, you are to accept any and all sexual harassment with an embarrassed giggle, if you get raped it’s definitely your fault and you can get an illegal abortion if you’re willing to risk death…
Fuck “respect.” I’ll take economic independence, thank you very much.
I think ppl who treat others know what they’re doing. XD We’re adults. I treat ppl to stuff all the time :o If they accept, I dun fault them or expect them to know what’s on my mind xD I mean treating ppl and expecting ppl to know that you’re being insincere and you expected them to refuse is… kinda weird isn’t it? o_O It seems a little odd to me :) If I offer something I know that it could be accepted. :3
I dun like ppl treating me in general and I always ask over and over and over if it’s okay with them until usually my friends tell me to shush xD But that’s also my personal thing xD I’ve had a date who insisted on not letting me out of his car until he opened the door…. he almost killed himself rushing over to the other side of the car to open the door before I did o_o He also insisted on paying, I said I didn’t like doing that, but he said he was going to the washroom but didn’t and paid at the cash before we got the check xD Obv we didn’t work out xD I’ve had other guys AND girls (ahh bi-ness xD ) rly insist on paying, and then I usually treat them to something :) I make it pretty clear that I want to go dutch and that I’m not interested in smex, and they still want to. I guess they just want to do something nice :) Even if not (i can’t read their minds xD ), it’s their choice… I think adults know what they’re doing and aren’t busy playing mind games when they want to just have fun :)
As I said, I treat my friends to stuff all the time, sometimes non-friends or even strangers :) Sometimes I want to do something nice or I want to cheer them up or somebody rly needs a meal and it does kinda hurt my finances, but it is something I want to do and if ppl say yes, I dun go “what type of person are you to accept!?” xD I offered :) Getting bent out of shape about this seems weird. If my intentions aren’t honest, then I can’t rly get mad at ppl for accepting by saying that their intentions aren’t honest o_O And if my intentions ARE honest, then I’m glad they accepted! :D
*bops*
:3
Also I wear bunny and cat hats all the time xD I am clearly playing to the animal gaze! xDDDD
I once kissed a stormtrooper wearing my cat hat! :D
NWO, I guarantee that everything you think you know about 1955 is based on old television shows. A handful of people, mostly in the western world (mostly the U.S.), benefited directly from the economic boom following World War II and suddenly every woman from that era was Donna-fucking-Reed. All women were docile, satisfied homemakers, no one ever had sex outside of marriage, marital monogamy was at 100% and ethnic minorities loved being Pullman Porters and tenant farmers.
Look, women dress up for a lot of different reasons. If a woman is dressed in a way that you find attractive she may very well be hoping to attract the attention of some men. That doesn’t mean she’s trying to attract your attention, specifically. Your interest may very well just be collateral damage that she’d prefer to ignore.
Some men love women in jeans and a t-shirt. Does that mean that every woman walking around in the basic American uniform is trying to attract men?
You’re free to think whatever you like about the way different women dress themselves. And if you’re attracted to a woman you can express that in any manner that doesn’t violate her personal space or bodily integrity.
And any woman has the right to tell you to kick rocks. That’s equality. One form of it, at any rate.
@Nobinayamu no no no.. you have it wrong… like w/ Asianphiles… I CHOSE to be Asian to attract them! xD If I DIDN’T want to attract them, why am I going out looking like an Asian person!? xD Altho sometimes my Caucasian skin is at the cleaners, and y’know, being a Klingon is so last year xD
Questions, questions, questions, all I do is answer questions. So heres mine.
1) Have any of you women ever gotten free stuff from men? Drink, movie, meal, jewelry, anything?
2) Have any of you ever worn skimpy clothing, make up, perfume, ect? If so why? And don’t tell me to feel good aboout yourselves unless you do these things when you’re alone in equal proportions.
3) If you’ve had/have a steady boyfriend/husband and he like to talk to other women and flirt would that be ok? If said boyfriend/husband said I don’t want you wearing revealing clothing/make up, ect because it attracts other mens attention, what would you tell him?
Oh, MRAL, I had not seen the lovely conversation in the other thread where you announced that lots of women deserve to be beaten and you’d do it yourself if you thought you could get away with it. I feel so stupid for ever trying to give you helpful advice. I hope you get some good medication for whatever the hell is causing these feelings in you, but I’m done with you, you nasty little fuck.
But first, just to keep things in perspective, the updated list of Crimes Against MRAL:
1. Strange women he passes in the street do not drop what they’re doing and beg to have sex with him.
2. This one time, in an elevator, he said hi to a girl? And she said hi back? But it wasn’t a really enthusiastic hi?
3. He applied for an internship that went to a female classmate, so she must have gotten it just because she’s a woman.
Remember, when he tells people who have been assaulted that they don’t know what real suffering is, this is what he has in mind.
And you know this because of what? Citation needed.
I've been looking through my jewelry tonight because my cousin's getting married tomorrow and I want to look nice. I adore my cousin and he's a super-nice guy and I don't want to show up at his wedding looking like I don't care. I do! I think his fiancée is lovely, I've known her for many years, and it's a happy celebration! But then, I'm already married, and a pretty large majority of the attendants will be family…who am I dressing up for?
The mysteries of life…so easily solved by talking to people.