Hating female sexuality: Is it normal?
You'll see why I used this picture in a minute.
So I recently ran across a site called “Is It Normal?” The idea behind it is simple, and kind of wonderful: people confess some possibly odd thing about themselves, and others tell them if it’s normal. Now, normally (as it were) I’m against the too-rigid enforcement of what is considered “normal” behavior, especially when it comes to sexuality and sex roles. But that’s not really what we’re talking about here. Ohhhh, no. We’re talking about grown men and women eating their own boogers; having sexual fantasies about zombies; feeling an urge to jump off of high places; or wanting to be turned into a doll or manikin. (Hey, whatever floats your boat.)
Naturally, I did a search for “misogyny” just to see what turned up. Is that a normal thing to do? I don’t know, and I don’t care, but I did it and the search pulled up a couple of pretty interesting little discussions.
The one that really grabbed my attention was from a guy who said he hated female sexuality. Which may not be “normal,” though as readers of this blog know it’s not uncommon. But this guy is no Christopher from Oregon, whose hatred of female sexuality is part of a package deal that includes hatred for pretty much everything female.
No, this guy hates female sexuality in part because, well, he thinks the male body is ugly and so assumes – or at least feels on a gut level — that any woman having sex with a man is being coerced, bamboozled, or raped. Yep, we’re talking about a rich and toxic stew of misogyny and misandry here. Let’s let him explain:
I Hate Female Sexuality
What little mysogyny I have in me is directed at female sexuality. I can’t stand it that females are attracted to males, ever. I hate them a little for it, just feel it in my gut. I thought for a long time when I was younger that females were basically asexual, not interested in sex, and that romance for them was something far removed from physical love. It didn’t occur to me that anyone might find the male form attractive, and I always suspected males were using some form of deception or raping women in some way when they were with them. I don’t understand this hate and distrust for my own sex. It really bothers me.
I hate that I feel there’s something wrong with a female having an active sexuality when I know intellectually there’s not. I’m a passionate feminist and attracted to females myself. I don’t really understand this feeling.
I think maybe a small part of it is jealousy when I see a couple, and the rest mostly my wierd, incongruous hatred for the male sex.
I don’t think females are doing something wrong but that something wrong is being done to them when they engage in sexual activity, even consentual, with a male, and they’re allowing it to happen, are complicit in it. This is just a feeling I have and can’t shake. It’s not overwhelming, like I’m freaking out whenever I see a couple but it’s there a lot, subtle but persistent. I’m atheist and I’m not someone who belives sexual promiscuity is wrong or even undesirable in male or females. This is just a wierd, lingering emotional problem, like fear of the dark or something like that.
Is it normal?
So, yeah. For what it’s worth, only 14% of those reading this confession rated it normal. But, as I said, I don’t think it’s uncommon. We grow up, after all, in a society that treats sexuality as a commodity that women possess, and that men try to “get” from women – by charming them into “giving it up,” by buying it directly or indirectly (by going to a prostitute or paying for dinner), or simply taking by force.
This way of thinking about sex is pretty deeply embedded in our culture; as regular readers of this blog know all too well, many MRAs, MGTOWers, and PUAs (especially) seem unable to conceive of sexuality in any other way. Neither does the questioner on Is It Normal (who goes by the name SamuraiPeeper), even though he’s a self-described feminist.
Like a lot of misogynistic ideas, this “women own sex, men must fight to get it” idea contains a heaping helping of misandry as well – suggesting that women basically don’t enjoy or desire sex with men because male bodies and male sexuality are inherently disgusting. It’s only a few small steps from this to SamuraiPeeper’s whole muddled mixture of desire and disgust, hatred and self-hatred.
The biggest difference between SamuraiPeeper and the MGTOWers and other misogynists I write about here is that he’s aware that his views are fucked up, and is trying actively to work through his issues. And he’s actually gotten some good responses to his query on Is It Normal?
PoisonFlowers suggests that some of his hatred and disgust probably stems from a fear of female sexuality:
Is it misogyny? I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that. Perhaps because the image you had of women (almost an idealised impression it seems) when you were younger has been destroyed (instead of having romance that is above sex, it turns out that women can be just as animalistic as men), you feel a sort of resentment and that mixes with the jealousy and then as you say “a weird, incongruous hatred for the male sex.” This then becomes a strong dislike for female sexuality.
Why do you have these feelings about men? Is it the people you’ve been surrounded with throughout your life and their behaviour/attitudes? Have you witnessed a man being abusive towards a woman at any point in your life? …
You say that you feel as though “something wrong is being done to them,” which could point to an urge in you to protect women, or perhaps it is more accurate to say to protect the _idea_ you have of women that stems from the concept you had when you were younger.
randomsensuality offers some similar observations:
It definitely sounds like you want to protect the idea of females as pure, with an almost divine stature. It also sounds like you have been taught or embraced the idea that penetrative sex is inherently degrading or immoral: therefore a woman who enjoys it is equally so.
Another bit on the matter is that many men do not find it attractive when women lead the hunt, as it were. They want to be the ones in control, in the pursuit of the sex and relationships. If a woman is as much “on the prowl” as he is, then he can’t say that it was a full conquest. He wants to know he’s been where others have failed to enter, that it took his prowess to crack the nut, setting him apart and making his mate a trophy and attribute to his stature.
Lets also not forget the angle of loathing the male form, which you say you can’t understand a woman being attracted to. If you are heterosexual male, this makes sense. Of course it’s easier to wrap your brain around lesbian sex, you like women, you understand innately attraction to women. Attraction to men, is scary for more than that reason though. If a woman is attracted to a man, then she could be attracted to any man the way a man can be attracted to any woman: this vision of the situation can induce pre-emptive jealousy and defensiveness.
Meanwhile, a 19-year-old girl calling herself so_damn_unpretty offers a blunter response – and one that might do the questioner as much good as the longer, more thoughtful responses:
I love men… and cock.. and sex… so i really cant relate.
In the end, that’s probably the most important takeaway here, as they like to say in the business world. Women – most women, anyway – genuinely like and enjoy sex as much as men. Sometimes more. When a guy “scores” with a woman – she is also “scoring” with him. Rigid gender roles that define man as the sexual pursuer and women as the sexual prize may make it hard to see this, but it’s true. Not only that, but women – heterosexual women, anyway – actually like and enjoy the male body.
Guys, know this: while you are watching sports, or playing video games, or playing with yourself, or knitting (or whatever your favorite hobby is), there are thousands of women writing, sharing, and reading slash fic about dudes (from various TV shows and movies and books) getting it on with each other. There are no women in these stories, at least not in the dirty parts. Just dudes, and their dude bodies, having dude sex with each other. Freud once asked: what do women want? And to that we have a partial answer: stories about Sam and Dean from Supernatural penetrating one another’s deepest mysteries.
Posted on May 26, 2011, in feminism, MGTOW, misandry, misogyny, MRA, rape, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 483 Comments.
This is Dennis Kucinich’s wife.
Seriously, the problem is not your height – it’s you.
Dennis Kucinich- social freak alpha. You think he could have gotten that ass if he wasn’t a prominent politician?
MRAL: Michael Keaton is shorter than I am Robert Downey Jr. is too. Rutger Hauer is a bit taller than I am. (I know this because, back when I was a studio projectionist, running dailies, I got to spend time with them.).
Johnny Depp is about 5’8″
Al Pacino: 5’6″
Mel Gibson: 5’9″
Robert De Niro: 5’9″
Charlie Sheen: 5’9″
Antonio Banderas: 5’8″
Brad Pitt again! What is it with MRAs and Brad Pitt, I’ll never know.
MRAL, I’ve told you this before, I’ll tell you again, short men don’t like tall women any more then tall women like short men!
Which means some do, but that’s not really my point.
My point is, I’m 6 feet tall. I have had men tell me to my face that I’m too tall. Geeze. It’s not some conspiracy against you.
That’s the thing, Sarah. Short men will definitely take tall women, but they’re scarred from being spit on and looked at like shit by ENTITLED *^&$^$#&@#&#$*es, and assume it will just be worse with women who are actually taller than they are.
Kucinich is hardly the most powerful man in the world. Isn’t it at all possible to you that she likes him for his personality?
I’m taller than you but I couldn’t get a date to save my life. My problem is that I’m very weird, geeky, and many people find me annoying.
About the eye thing, have you considered an eyepatch? It’ll cultivate a cool Nick Fury look. Either that or a pirate, and pirates are in this year.
I think height discrimination is an issue. Tall men do tend to beat our similarly qualified shorter men for jobs. Is it The Most Important Issue Evar? Of course not.
FWIW, I’m 5′ 8″ on a good day. Which means I’m really about 5’7″ or so.
I have this odd sense of something. I am not attracted to men. On an intellectual level I can see the way they are built as “good looking” in a purely aesthetic sense, but I’m not moved by it.
I like the way women look. I don’t understand how it is they find the male body so attractive, but that’s ok.
I also figured (and it used to be common knowledge that this was not the case) that for the same reason I found them attractive, and so the idea of a woman being interested in another woman didn’t seem wrong (just a bit counter-intuitive, since I am not attracted to men), that they might have the same idea about men.
So I have no problem with slash. It doesn’t do much for me as erotica, but the basic idea seems uncontroversial to me,
But I like my body. It’s not “perfect” but it is mine, and it works, and it pleases me, so I don’t see how I could be repulsed by someone liking my body, without a significant amount of what I can only think of as self-loathing.
As a short woman (5’2″ ish) I wouldn’t want to date a man who was over a foot taller than me. In fact my husband is the tallest man I’ve ever been with and he is the dreaded oppressed height – 5’10″!
He is also an ex-bike courier and general badass, so I don’t see how MRAL could call him a beta. Oh wait, I don’t care. :)
Holly: Yeah, but Justin Bieber is what, 16? He could still hit a growth spurt. Plus he fills the “unthreatening boy heartthrob for 9-13 year old girls”. He’s supposed to be small and girly looking.
I don’t know, but the way MRAL is going, I’m expecting a “well, we were drunk, and he did offer to suck my cock” moment. But maybe that’s just me.
Back to the post: I have heard guys express how much they hated men’s bodies. They were at a loss as to how women actually found men attractive at all, since men are gross. I think part of it too is a male privilege thing – they’re extrapolating their experience to populations as a whole, that the default thinking is male. They can’t see outside of themselves enough to realize that it’s a function of their sexual orientation. Usually I’d just brashly respond “Congratulations! You’re Heterosexual!” But then they don’t get that heterosexual women usually dig men’s bodies and not so much other women’s.
Also in this Great Debate of Dudes was “why would women have sex with men because we’re gross?”. Many reasons would be given, but the most obvious one – women like to have sex – was always dismissed as some wild and implausible theory. Why, I don’t know.
Justin Bieber, if he doesn’t grow, is okay because he’s a social freak alpha (SFA) as well.
BTW, that guy is, quite honestly, the logical endpoint for The Mangina- David, Hugo Schwyzer, and the like. Confused and miserable, hating men, etc.
I would hazard a wild guess that men who conceive of sexuality in terms of a competition/exchange think:
A) Sex is about winning (man gets pussy from woman) not mutual pleasure/affection (humans involve have fun and express positive feelings towards each other)
B) Because sex is icky and dirty, when a woman “loses” and has sex with a man, she is disgraced and defiled
and
C) Because their sexual desire is bound up with negative feelings towards women, the idea of being desired makes them feel disgusted (see also: Homophobia).
Therefore: Male bodies cannot be desired.
But I’m sure MRAL will now explain that it’s all because we are snotty bitches who don’t put out.
As a short woman (5’2″ ish) I wouldn’t want to date a man who was over a foot taller than me.
I’m 4’10”, and for some odd reason, guys 5’10” and above love me. I don’t think I’ve ever dated anyone shorter than 5’10”. The tallest was 6’3″. My only theory on this is that my personality adds about 10 inches in height, so they don’t see me as tiny.
And I think that they’re leaving out Justin Bieber’s hair helmet – that adds like what, 2-3 inches?
Just a reminder: Once you’ve convinced MRAL that height actually isn’t a complete impediment to finding a date, not being spat on, etc., he’ll just start talking about his fucked up eye.
This gets old, dude. I hate to waste the keystrokes telling you that your abhorrent personality is the only barrier to your happiness.
You know what’s actual height discrimination? When you’re a 4′ 11″ Fillipina girl who weighs barely 100 lbs, and a man picks you up – literally puts his hands on your body and PICKS YOU UP – at a bus stop and moves you because you’re in his way. This happened to a roommate of mine. Has such an egregious violation of your bodily autonomy based on your height ever happened to you, MRAL? I’m genuinely curious.
HTML fail.
As long as we’re crushing on actors….
Mmmmm…. Johnny Depp.
I’m just going to ignore the 20-year age difference.
At least it’s not so bad as Harrison Ford. Although he is 6’1.
Oh BTW, hollywood people, along with being generally more attractive than normal, also have lots of makeup on, and tend to NOT look their age.
And Drew Barrymore…. oh wait, different category.
Why do we keep trying to explain this? At least this time we get to fantasize about actors.
I have never spat on a man. Not even some of the ones who spat on me! (Emergency medical work, it’s a glamorous life.)
I have, however, viciously and deliberately not-slept-with almost every guy on Earth.
And I think this second is what MRAL considers “spitting on.”
Well Bee, the eye thing does make it worse, because it’s a maze of obstacles, rather than just one thing. As I’ve said “facial alphas” like Tom Cruise can get by.
Though we’re discussing heightism, which I think is better, as it’s a more widespread bigotry, rather than this thing unique to me. Plus due to the Supernatural theme it’s on topic.
@AbsintheDextrous, but the kissing is hard enough with an 8″ height differential! How did you manage with the 6’3″ guy – a stepladder?
I’ve been told that my personality adds to my height as well, but it doesn’t help when I need to get something down from the top cupboards.
You should really figure out a way to phrase that batter, dude. My inner 12-year-old is cracking up right now.
Also, eyepatch. Just saying. I’d kill for an excuse to wear an eyepatch.
*better.
You people keep talking about how personality adds to height, but as everyone here delights in telling me, I have a shitty personality, so now what?
Social freak alphas, facial alphas… why, there’s almost as many kinds of alphas as there are bitter hateful men who think that guys who treat women decently and talk to them as equals must be working some kind of secret unfair magic!
Holly: With no offense to your wonderful self, would you consider adding me to the list of men you have intentionally not slept with?
It doesn’t have to be vicious, or anything, but deliberate; I think it should definitely be deliberate.
KristinMH – Yes, some variation of those three were bandied about. So was an interesting variation on A – that women didn’t like sex, so they were only with men for support, and this idea was mostly not seen as a negative. Something along the lines of “well, she loves me and she knows that I want to have sex with her, so she’ll put up with my hideous body to have sex with me; I make sure that I buy her nice things for such a sacrifice”.
I would say “B” was less so with this particular group of males. The majority of them didn’t think that women were “used” or that sex was gross. They cheered women as well as men when they got laid – though they didn’t really understand why women would want to.
Pecunium – Barring any very strange coincidences (do you remember any short redheads with severe potty mouths?), I will haughtily not-sleep-with you! Take that! Ptooey!
Also, what’s your explaniation for Christina Hendricks’ husband?
Granted, he’s tall, but really? And it’s not because he’s a rich and famous actor. She’s bigger than he is (pardon the pun). I can’t even remember his name, really.
Could it possibly, maybe, be that (gasp!) she likes his personality.
How did you manage with the 6’3″ guy – a stepladder?
Tiptoes. But I also like to wear platforms and heels. But honestly, mostly when we were sitting down.
I’ve been told that my personality adds to my height as well, but it doesn’t help when I need to get something down from the top cupboards.
Yeah, I hear ya. I’m pretty adept at climbing counters and shelves, because my place has high ceilings – even my 5’8″ friend had to stand on a counter to put something away for me.
MRAL: Fix the personality. Then you too can be a social alpha.
You people keep talking about how personality adds to height, but as everyone here delights in telling me, I have a shitty personality, so now what?
… develop a better personality?
I suppose I should specify that the eye thing isn’t bad enough for me to actually wear an EYEPATCH, that’s pretty extreme. One is a smaller than the other. Just because people seem to be curious.
You people keep talking about how personality adds to height, but as everyone here delights in telling me, I have a shitty personality, so now what?
MMmmmmmmwork on your personality?
You’re 5’8″ or 5’9″ if I remember correctly? Not really into freak category. I’m seeing median height for men in the U.S. is 5’8.5″. So you’re pretty much in the middle there. Your height is fine. Live with it.
Er, experience has told me that personality is pretty much fixed.
Er, experience has told me that personality is pretty much fixed.
BWAHAHAHHAAHA.
Come on, seriously. Do you really think that the ladies all go for the bitter, hostile, openly resentful of basically everyone types?
Are they 6’1 or above? Are they facial alphas? Then yes.
Nope, MRAL. Everyone can change and grow and be better with hard work and patience! I believe in you! One should never stop trying to be better! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Also, also, also. You claim that ALL short men will date a tall woman, but is too scarred to actually try. Except short men have told me that I was too tall. Did you read that? It's not simple and linear!
It's like how a lot of guys don't want to date smart women, and women who make a lot of money! They're intimidated!
And I have dated some short men. There's nothing wrong with them being able to take shade under my bust.
You have never even visited Earth, have you.
Sarah, well I guess I can’t speak for all short men then, but this is my experience.
“In the end, that’s probably the most important takeaway here, as they like to say in the business world. Women – most women, anyway – genuinely like and enjoy sex as much as men. Sometimes more. When a guy “scores” with a woman – she is also “scoring” with him. ”
Which is why so many MRA’s get pissed off when a women feels she is entitled to be treated, wined and dined, in exchange for the possibility of the sex she may or may not offer come the end of the night. Why should men have to pay for something she’s going to enjoy just as much? Now, I realize some women have no problems paying their own way, but many many women still feels it’s a man’s responsibility to pay, just because she might let him get some.
@David: As an aside, knowing how much you hate sexism, here is a little rant, and it is directed at you, presuming you are a man…
http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/a-rant/
But seriously, what is your explanation for Christina Hendricks’ husband?
Wait. So I’m destined to always sleep with a man who is an inch taller than me and has a pretty face? Even if he has a rotten personality?
I NEVER KNEW!
MRAL, can you send me a picture of your face? Just a quick photo of that self-described hideous Quasimodo-esque mug of yours? Cause I just want a memento to go with the person who has had laughing like a fiend all day, I honestly haven’t been able to get an honest stretch of work in. You have to be one of the most stupidly fascinating individuals on the internet.
I mean at first I just passed you off as some 4chan “Get me a Sandwich B*tch LOLLOOL” troll who was just trying to start shit, and was way over his head in forum that actually consists of intelligent points and contributions.
But as explored you you’ve actually revealed yourself to be one of the dumbest, most neurotic, least self-aware, and most unwittingly comic posters in my entire experience with the internet.
Those comments on the Smurfette post: they weren’t just mock worthy gold, they were gold-pressed latinum. Look at this:
“And if that’s true that such behavior is discouraged, why was Smurfette never punished karmically for her actions? It’s because it was not seen as wrong, but normal and good and FUCKING FUNNY. Smurfette is a classic alpha BITCH in cartoon form, FUCKHER GODD dDamn it..”
I can actually perfectly imagine the pathetic frustrated wail you had during that keyboard breakdown at the end. Simply marvelous.
But enough with the tl:dr about the village idiot, I honestly want to say thank you for this blog David, I stumbled upon this from Jezebel and I’m a guy who gets easily bent out of shape with rage with the likes of Spearhead and their ilk, and considering the massive anger problems that got me into a lot of bad situations in my youth, yours and the other commentators use of comedy and mockery against these creatures’ hateful bile is something I personally appreciate so much.
KristinMH said:
“Many reasons would be given, but the most obvious one – women like to have sex – was always dismissed as some wild and implausible theory. Why, I don’t know.
“I would hazard a wild guess that men who conceive of sexuality in terms of a competition/exchange think:
“A) Sex is about winning (man gets pussy from woman) not mutual pleasure/affection (humans involve have fun and express positive feelings towards each other)
“B) Because sex is icky and dirty, when a woman “loses” and has sex with a man, she is disgraced and defiled; and
“C) Because their sexual desire is bound up with negative feelings towards women, the idea of being desired makes them feel disgusted (see also: Homophobia).
“Therefore: Male bodies cannot be desired.
“But I’m sure MRAL will now explain that it’s all because we are snotty bitches who don’t put out.”
What an excellent explanation/deconstruction of male fear of undesirability!
On the whole, I’m kinda glad that my advanced age puts me out of the range where MRAL and his fellow losers could resent me.
Oh, please. People can change. It’s difficult, but given enough motivation and sincere effort, people can overcome even the most obnoxious personality traits.
But that would involve actually, y’know, doing stuff and admitting your faults, and maybe admitting that your Greek system is just so much fucking bullshit. It’s only purpose is to justify why supermodels with PhD’s won’t fuck you without touching on the fact that, well, you’re kind of a mean, angry person. And mean, angry people usually don’t get many dates.
I don’t think Christina Hendricks’ husband is that ugly. I admit it threw me, because he’s not nearly as hot as her, but I could see him as a beta. Perhaps a rare case of an alpha and a beta, but I’ve already admitted that happens, albeit rarely. If he was truly ugly- an omega- they wouldn’t be together.
@Spearhafoc
My explanation for Christina Hendricks’ husband is his hair. I love think, bushy, curly hair!
@Sarah
Yeah, I read an interview with her where she said his hair really turned her on. Still, she probably also likes him as a person. That’s something that mister Leff-tennant doesn’t seem to factor in to relationships.
About the eyepatch again: you don’t have to need an eyepatch to wear an eyepatch.
If you really think your eye is an impediment to your love life, then why not fix it (and be really cool while you’re doing it)?
The Norse god Óðinn had a missing eye, and he got loads of “tail”. Granted, one of the magic songs he learned when he impaled himself on Yggdrasil gave him the ability to seduce any woman he desired (which is really rapey, when you think about it).
Er, never mind about Óðinn. Still, eyepatches are cool and I heartily recommend them.
First of all: There are a TON of super short actors who look tall. In fact? Most actors and actresses actually ARE under 6 feet.
Second: Facial alphas? LOL!
Third: I have never dated a “hot” guy. I have dated guys I think are spectacular for their minds. It’s an amazing fact. (I know this won’t matter just need to say it)
BTW, I read Kratch’s link, and I’d link to knock on her door, beat the fucking shit out of her, and then kick her in the ribs a few dozen times, and then spit on her.
Next on the list: OPTICAL alphas. With unfairly similarly-sized eyes.
Myself: I am a SHAMBLING alpha.
If I weren’t married I would *totally* be intrigued by a guy with an eyepatch, especially if he said “I wear an eyepatch. Eyepatches are cool”. Because who DOESN’T want to fuck The Doctor and become his next Doomed Sweetheart?
…Oh, it’s just me then? Never mind!
@BigKitty – thanks!
Nope, nothing to fix in that personality.
“Oh, he’s such a charmer, he only has hideously violent fantasies about women who disagree with him! Totally understandable!”
MRAL, I’ve never seen your face, have no preconceptions about your appearance whatsoever, and I wouldn’t fuck you with a borrowed dick.
I didn’t care for that link either but really?
None of these thoughts occurred to me. None. Seriously, what the frell, man?
Spearhafoc – To be fair, MRAL doesn’t really react any more violently to links like that than he does to crimes such as:
-“Spitting on” him (done continuously by every woman on earth)
-Not smiling at him in an elevator
-Smiling at him in an elevator, but not meaning it
You could say he’s… short-tempered.
yeeeaaah
BTW, I read Kratch’s link, and I’d link to knock on her door, beat the fucking shit out of her, and then kick her in the ribs a few dozen times, and then spit on her.
It’s not the ludicrous “Greek System” that causes women not to want to associate with you.
I mean, besides thoroughly proving her point, the violent outburst is troubling at best, indicative of significant emotional disturbance more likely.
Dude. It’s been said before. You can’t find the help you need here. Even if you are a tremendously misguided and ill-tempered Poe.
Aww…you guys, I think Christina Hendricks’ husband is quite good-looking. He’s not attractive in a typical red carpet sort of way, but that’s really only because red carpet beauty is such a tiny slice of the spectrum…
Yes, I’d suggest he needs to work out his spitting fetish with a dominatrix but I don’t want to inflict a most likely very nice woman with this little creep.
Wow. I can see why she would write that to you, MRAL. I mean a violent reaction like that? If we were on the site originally mentioned, I would have to say that it’s not normal.
I wonder if MRAL thinks his personality is fine because he hides it so darn well. Like, when he’s hitting on a woman, he only tells her about other women he’d like to beat to death, not herself, because he’s suave like that.
MRAL, am I speaking your language when I call you a “personality omega?”
I tried looking up “spitting fetish” to see if there was a name for it. That was a mistake.
Still, there seems to be a lot of stuff out there that would be of particular interest to Mr. Leff-tennant. Maybe some release might calm him down a bit.
Spearhafoc – You should NEVER look up a fetish on the internet. Ever. Unless you want to lose your eyes permanently.
MRAL, most ladies aren’t going to want to get with a guy who has violent fantasies about beating them up. Particularly when those fantasies are touched off by normal human behavior, like wanting to avoid creepy violent assholes.
Ok, I disagree with the woman in that link that ALL men need to have that directed at them. Studies have shown that a very, very, very small minority of men are rapists. The problem is that they do it A LOT to A LOT of women, girls, and boys. (Yeah, I know there are some women rapists but it’s so ridiculously slimmer than the number of men who rape.) So I am all for taking the fucks who rape people out of society and keeping them far away from anyone else, in whatever way necessary.
But violent reactions like MARL’s? Not ok. Really, really not ok. Yeah, Holly, it really makes you wonder. Usually when I hear a guy whining because he can’t get a girl and how all women are horrible bitches who’ve done him wrong I usually immediately think “what is wrong with him?” Reactions like his? One of the things I think might be wrong with them.
Lol, that woman who wrote the essay was way more violent than me, but I guess it’s okay when a wymynynynynynyn does it, right?
When it’s someone who isn’t acting on it against violent criminals? Yeah, I’m ok with them expressing it. When it’s someone who is so pissed off at their words? Yeah, not so much.
Actually, MRAL, it’s not okay what that woman wrote.
It’s also not okay how you reacted.
See how it works?