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Arnold Schwarzenegger’s adultery: Blame the bitches!

Non-stop fun indeed!

Poor Arnold Schwarzenegger!

Picture the scene.

It’s January 1997. Arnold’s in a good mood, sitting in his den, paging through the latest issue of Variety. He chuckles to himself. Fuck the critics! Jingle All the Way is putting asses in the seats of the multiplexes of America, and that means money in the bank to the Terminator.

Suddenly, he hears the door to the room click shut behind him. It’s that devious maid again, with her wily, sexy Latin ways! “Que pasa?” she says, running her hands through his hair. He’s still not quite sure what that phrase means, exactly, but it seems to have a hypnotic effect on him, and his penis. He pulls the maid to him.

The next minute and a half are a blur. “Curses!” he mutters to himself, as he realizes that, once again, the wily maid has lured his hapless penis into her vaginal cavity. But it’s too late. The penis has released its precious load. “Me han robado tu esperma,” she hisses. “¿Dónde está la biblioteca?”

This, give or take a few of the details, seems to be how the author of the Rebuking Feminism blog imagines the events that led to the birth of Arnold’s love-child 14 years ago. Yep: in his version of events, it’s the women – both the maid, Patty Baena, and wife Maria – who are responsible for Arnold’s indiscretions:

Maria Shriver should have known better than to let any half way decent looking woman spend so much time in the house. The whole ballgame changes when a man reaches Arnold’s status. Women come begging to be f***ed by you. Women practically disrobe and spread when guys like Arnold walk in the room. I’m sure he abstained plenty of times but women like this maid wait for her opportunity when in such close proximity.

It’s tough, I guess, to be a freakishly huge, fabulously wealthy alpha male who wants to fuck everything in sight. But tougher indeed to be a beta:

As is quite common with the type of situation that took place with Arnold, I’m sure this little whore took her prized bastard back home to be raised by her oblivious, committed, and cuckolded beta male husband.

Some people might say, hey, isn’t Arnold partially to blame for cuckolding that little whore’s cuckolded beta male husband? No. It’s important to remember: he’s a victim too, and obviously not responsible for the sexual activity that Mrs. Baena lured him into with her fiery Latin vagina.

Maria may now file for divorce. The only people to end up completely fu*ked here will be the two men…Arnold for engaging in adultery (and the price only men have to pay for it) and the man that was cuckolded by his adulterous whore wife and will have to pay for it as well. Men bear liability to women on both sides of the equation. Men have no rights.

Now all Maria and Patty need to do is sit back and collect the cash. Ka-ching-gle All the Way!

EDITED TO ADD: The author of the post has added a response to my post as a addendum to his original post. The gist of it:

Arnold and his impropriety was not the intended focus of this article. I take it as common knowledge among my readers that what Arnold did was obviously wrong. This was not the point of the article.

The point of this article was to illustrate how adultery is supported by law on one end (the female end) and not supported by law on the male end.

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Posted on May 22, 2011, in antifeminism, bad boys, beta males, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, precious bodily fluids, sex, sluts, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 674 Comments.

  1. @Victoria awww it’s stormy and cold here :( from that storm that caused all that awful damage in the US that’s heading up :\ (it’s terrible the destruction it caused :( ) But I hope you have fun in the happy sunshine and kitties! :D
    <3

  2. Told ya Arnie, They don’t think like you. Besides best leave now, the conversation is about to turn into, “I guess that give a man the right to rape.”

  3. Arnie: So men received their right to vote in 1850 is what you are saying…and your point is what

    1: You are completely mis-informed when you say it wasn’t men who refused women the vote (since “property requirements was how you tried to weasel out of it when I pointed out that men were the only ones who could, “give” women the vote; in response to your claim that women resisted it, and it had to be “forced on them”).

    2: You are willing to actively lie about things.

    We can see, from the way you admitted to being wrong that actually owning up to your mistakes isn’t really part of your makeup, but that comes as no surprise it’s been pretty evident for a while.

  4. NWO – So do you think that the very instant I dump that dish of sperm into a dish of eggs (okay, conception doesn’t exactly work like that because we’re not frogs, but go with it), millons of human babies with full human rights are formed?

    Not every potential human can exist. That’s okay. That’s how the reproductive system works anyway–I’m sure I’ve menstruated “babies” away. The mere loss of a potential life, which is currently not capable of pain or fear, is not murder.

  5. “If he walks away, the woman has to cope.”

    And if he is forced to stay he has to cope

    “(nb Arnie seems to think that walking away is an option which lasts longer than a pregnancy).”

    And you seem to think an unwanted commitment lasts shorter than at least 18 years.

    “The child, of course doesn’t figure into his equations. He seems to think a child is, “property.””

    No, since abortion is legal it is not a child at all or even a life, it is a future liability that we have the choice to deal with by abortion.

  6. Comrade Svilova

    Talk to your partner before having sex. Make sure you’re on the same page. And make sure that you take personal precautions to protect yourself from pregnancy, STIs, etc.

    It’s pretty easy.

  7. Holly: This is NWO you are trying to have a nuanced discussion of ethics with. It’s a noble effort. I don’t have the patience, but I hope you have a good bit of your preferred liquor handy.

  8. Arnie: Arnie… take proactive responsibility.

    Pop quiz:

    1: When does this right to, “Male abortion” end?

  9. Question 2: You are arguing for equal rights for men and women, yes?

  10. No Holly, you’ve never menstruated babies away. Just as I’ve never pissed away any children along with any of my seed that has escaped.

    No conception equals no life. The State has given women the power to terminate life and cleared their concience. There is nothing I can do to stop the mass slaughter other than try to change peoples minds. So thats what I do. I fight for life you fight for death. CYA.

  11. Comrade Svilova

    NWOSlave, actually, lots of miscarriages happen very early in the pregnancy. They appear to just be normal periods. This is a biological fact.

  12. You don’t understand, NWO. I mean that I’ve had sex and then had my period, and although I use birth control, it’s not at all unlikely that I conceived a zygote and then lost it at two weeks of “pregnancy.” These things happen. They’re little more “death” than the constant death of my skin cells.

    Also, seriously, the “State” banned abortion for a long time in the US and is still making it difficult. I don’t think this one ties into your particular pet conspiracy theory.

    Anyway. Shit. I’m late for yoga… I mean, spreading chemtrails and MKULTRA Cointel.

  13. You know, it is important to realize that men are not really responsible for children in terms of being a father. Fatherhood is not a right. Children are something men should not get emotionally close to. Children are also a potential drain on a man’s finances just to support some strange woman and her children.

    Men do not have a whole lot to invest in both before and after conception. I understand you think men should give you money to support your families and your children but men don’t really owe that to women’s families and women’s children. If a man is around great and if he’s not that is really not up to him. Men really don’t have any responsibility in any of this.

  14. OH MY GAWD NWO is bringing a chair into the ring! The ref is telling him he can’t bring foreign objects in but he doesn’t care!

    Now now JR, remember who runs this place now. We need to be politically correct, it’s international objects!

    What in blue blazes are you talking about King?

    Well we have a female commissioner and a cuckolded owner now, so we need to watch what we say JR!

    King, I can’t be- OMG NWO WITH A CHAIRSHOT TO HOLLY! And another to Pecunium! The ref is calling for the bell but the damage is done! OH MA GAWD NWO JUST TOOK OUT HOLLY AND PECUNIUM WITH A STEEL CHAIR! Now Arnie’s in the ring with a chair too and… OH MY GOD.. he just slammed it into Pecunium’s knee!!! Good lord almighty! And here’s another one!

    Good! They deserve it after the dirty way they fought that match JR!

    What are you talking about King?

    They refused the first blood match! They’re CHEATERS!

    How is that cheating?

    They refused a perfectly reasonable request JR! How is that not cheating?

    I… ladies and gentlemen, if you just tuned in… this is a disgrace tonight! An absolute disgrace…

    No it’s not! It’s great!

    Folks, Holly and Pecunium are bloodied and laid out, and NWO and Arnie are finally stopping the assault! They’re on the turnbuckles now, arms raised! OH MY GAWD, you can bet there’s gonna be hell to pay on Thursday!

  15. Comrade Svilova

    So Arnie, when would the right to male abortion end?

  16. Comrade Svilova: It appears he isn’t willing to answer the questions.

    Typical.

  17. Arnie: So men received their right to vote in 1850 is what you are saying…and your point is what

    “1: You are completely mis-informed when you say it wasn’t men who refused women the vote (since “property requirements was how you tried to weasel out of it when I pointed out that men were the only ones who could, “give” women the vote; in response to your claim that women resisted it, and it had to be “forced on them”).”

    Are you saying that it could have happened any other way? That women would have built civilization up to this point? Voting is about management and distribution of resources, something which women never bothered to acquire on their own because men did it for them. Men know the only way to gain the favor of women is if we get these things. You’ve been coddled since the beginning of time.

    Don’t expect men to pay for you or support you financially in any way. If you divorce, share the kids and support yourself. Women need to learn to be independent. Men don’t owe our equals anything more than we owe other men.

  18. Oh my god, Arnie. That is, bar none, the most misandrist thing I’ve ever heard anyone say.

    I will be sure to pass along your “wisdom” to all the men in my life who tell me that their children are the best things in their life, what makes their life worth living, what brings the most joy to them every single day.

    You are bullshit, man. “Women’s families”? “Women’s children”? Just — What?

  19. “So Arnie, when would the right to male abortion end?”

    It ends at the same time a woman’s right to do so ends.

  20. “I will be sure to pass along your “wisdom” to all the men in my life who tell me that their children are the best things in their life, what makes their life worth living, what brings the most joy to them every single day.”

    No, it’s not that men don’t want to it’s simply that these men you speak of are living under an illusion. Those children ARE NOT THEIRS. Understand clearly that children are women’s both pre and post conception. Fatherhood is important but that doesn’t mean that men have a right to it as women have a right to motherhood.

  21. So… as soon as the kid is born, then?

    Oh, and Arnie, just in case you hadn’t noticed… I’m a guy.

  22. Arnie,

    I posted a while ago listing what I believe would be the requirements for male “abortion” to be equal to female abortion. You haven’t addressed it, so am I correct to assume you agree?

  23. Are you saying that it could have happened any other way? That women would have built civilization up to this point? Voting is about management and distribution of resources, something which women never bothered to acquire on their own because men did it for them. Men know the only way to gain the favor of women is if we get these things. You’ve been coddled since the beginning of time.

    Where to begin.

    1: I do think women could have built civilisation.

    2: I think the reason they didn’t is because men refused to let them (see above, as with the vote).

    3: I think you are misanthropist.

  24. “You are bullshit, man. “Women’s families”? “Women’s children”? Just — What?”

    Yes silly, women have their own families if they want to remove the male worker bee and pseudo father meet.

    Women’s families consist of a matriarch, her children, sometimes from multiple men which is surrounded by Isolated Resource Producing Males that deliver their earnings to her doorstep. Men are not members of the matriarchal family. Men are not members of the lives of children in the matriarchal family. A family can be dissolved in this fashion even when the male worker bee lives in the home.

    At any moment the grand matriarch can cast him out of the home, remove him from his children and force him to go to work for her. This is all men are good for. Understand that men know this and there is not point in being an involved father.

  25. I’m not joking with you. It happened to my father, my brother and it sure as hell is not going to happen to me.

    I’m not saying I will not have children. I just don’t think I could handle being an involved father.

  26. Wow…. I am amazed. I didn’t think someone more confused about the way the world works than NWO was ever likely to turn up.

    It’s neck and neck right now, but I’m thinking Arnie is pulling ahead.

  27. Pecunium it sounds like you are confused about the matriarchal family along with marriage and divorce laws. If there is anything I can do to clarify things let me know.

  28. I don’t really see the point of signing onto the marriage contract of liability to a matriarch. There is nothing in marriage for men. It could be terminated at any moment. I could not handle that.

    My father was pathetic, he would drive an hour and a half each way almost every day during the summer when my mother was working and sometimes after I walked home from school. I was what was known as a “latch key kid”. This is a child of a matriarchal family who has no parental supervision at home after school and during the summer.

    My father had to sneak up to see me. I remember how special it was for me. I appreciate his effort but it was not worth it for him, none of it was worth it. I understand what men are worth to the family.

  29. Arnie: If I ever feel I need your opinion on marriage, or divorce, or kids….

    I’ll just save myself a lot of grief and put a bullet through my head.

  30. “1: I do think women could have built civilisation.”

    “2: I think the reason they didn’t is because men refused to let them (see above, as with the vote).”

    Yea, keep believing that women played no important role in civilization and that their role was so unnecessary that they could have done other things. You were just cattle right…I get it. You were the only victims of the human condition and the victims of male oppression..I get it. Just so you know, men resent just about every view feminism has of the world.

  31. “Arnie: If I ever feel I need your opinion on marriage, or divorce, or kids….”
    “I’ll just save myself a lot of grief and put a bullet through my head.”

    No only men are 10 to 15x more likely to do kill themselves after divorce not women. Women have nothing to lose.

    You see the matriarch demotes him to fatherlessness and indentured servitude unable to ever start another family. She makes him work for her and send her money or he gets put into a cage. ONLY MEN ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LIKELY TO KILL THEMSELVES AFTER DIVORCE.

  32. Arnie: I am going to repeat something I said upstream.

    I am a man.

    I realise this probably comes as a shock you, but I am a man.

    Everything I’ve said, was said by a man.

  33. Arnie: You are missing the point. If (got forbid) I am ever in a spot where your advice (on pretty much anything) is the best option I have…

    I think I would be better off dead.

  34. Okay, so my gay uncles, who have just adopted their second son, have a family. Who’s the matriarch? Is it my 91 year old grandmother? I’m pretty sure she was only the parent to her eight sons and she’s only met the newest grandson twice, but clearly she holds all of the power. Or something.

    Talk about not making sense.

  35. I’m sry for what happened to you as a child :( It sounds like your father rly loved you :) Father’s like your dad are why so many ppl (incl the ppl who posted above if you read what they have to say about fatherhood and love :) ) want to change things so that ppl like your dad can easier raise their children when a separation happens :) (life is f-ed up :( I know :\ trust me… I know :( )

    It sounds like this discussion is rly triggering for you and rly personal and I can tell you’re getting rubbed rly raw :( I’m sorry to hear what happened to you as a child :( If you need to or want to, I think everybody here would understand if you need to step away to be in a safe space or something for a bit :)

    Your father sounds like a courageous amazing person :)

  36. Arnie: It’s kind of like you don’t even understand what you’re saying. Not sure.

    Anyway, it sounds like your dad sacrificed a lot for you. That doesn’t make him pathetic. That makes him a loving father. I understand that you suspect all women have it in for the generalized category of Men, just as you feel your mom had it in for your dad. I also see now where your deep investment in financial abortion comes from. Please know that there are many, many men out there who want to be (and are) a part of their child’s life (as your dad did, apparently), and that their participation in their child’s life is something that the enjoy very much and gives meaning to their life. Generalizing from your particular childhood experience (colored through a very biased lens) is probably not helpful in understanding how things are or should be for other people.

  37. Sorry Rachel I missed it as your comment was not approved yet.

    You Said: “Arnie,

    I don’t know whether I agree or disagree with your argument that men should have the same right as women to “abort” parental responsibility, a part of me thinks if I were to get pregnant and have options, so should the man I slept with (which is why in our current legal situation I would discuss the available options with him), but anothe part of me thinks that once there is a child, there is a child who needs love and support (both emotional and financial).

    However, I do have a couple of comments on the idea of male “abortions” and how they would have to work to be truly equal to the right to an abortion women currenty have.

    First, women are required to go to a specific clinic to have an abortion (unless it is medically necessary). In the state I live in, there are only three such clinics available, so women who want an abortion are required to physically show up at an abortion clinic (which may be hours from where they actually live) and face the stigma of having an abortion. If men want to “abort” their parental rights, they should have to show up at the same place to complete whatever paperwork is required.

    Second, many states impose strict requirements on who actually is able to have an abortion. Some states require a woman to show up at the clinic, request an abortion, have a sonogram and hear the description of the fetus development, wait two days, and then come back. Some states require parental consent if the woman is under age 18 (with the option of a judicial bypass if necessary). For a male “abortion,” the requirements should be the same.

    Third, women are not allowed to get an abortion whenever they want during a pregnancy. In the first trimester, there are few (if any) restrictions, but after that, most states impose heavy restrictions. Practically speaking, for many women this restricts their right to an abortion to the first trimester. Some women (I’m not saying most, I’m saying some) aren’t even aware they are pregnant at this point. Some women aren’t able to get in to the clinic. Some women haven’t made their choice. Men should have the same time restrictions as women. By this, I don’t mean that men should have a specific amount of time after learning that they have impregnanted a woman. I mean that if a man finds out that a woman he slept with is pregnant in her first trimester, great, abort away. If not, sorry, but the state imposes restrictions on us all.

    Finally, abortions aren’t free. In fact, abortions can be quite expensive depending on the timing in the pregnancy. Men who want to “abort” their parental rights should have to pay the same amoutn as it would cost to have a medical abortion. I’m not sure who they should have to pay this amount to, but they should have to pay.

    Those are just a few of my thoughts on how your theory of a male abortion would have to work to be truly “equal.” Again, not sure if I agree with it, but I am sure that it should be as difficult for men as it is for women to exercise their “right.””

    Yes I think you are on track. The onus of responsibility for our continued welfare as a civilization would then depend on how many women brought to term children with a father that aborted. It would not be a good situation. I do think that women don’t really see fathers as necessary so I imagine quite a bit would have the child. I’ve read up on what fatherlessness does to children especially to boys and the results are not good at all.

    So far though if I’m not mistaken women and society don’t really value the role of father and the law reflects likewise.

  38. WP’s automatically animating my smileys makes my post look less sincere than it is :\ But it is abs sincere.

    It’s just the way I write and express my emotions :]

  39. This discussion is moving so quickly I just wanted to highlight a couple of posts that got held in moderation that everyone should read:

    Kendra, on gender and self-sacrifice, and also on this:

    Arnie, you have no idea what any of us commenters are like or how we live. I have no cats, but I like cats. I live with my husband, my two kids, and after Sunday night, my parents. I can’t go to my own home right now because a giant tornado ripped through my city Sunday night and destroyed a quarter of the homes and businesses. My family and I are VERY LUCKY to be ALIVE. I am grateful to sleep in a bed, take a shower, and eat a meal at my parents’ home. Those are luxuries I used to take for granted.

    http://manboobz.com/2011/05/22/arnold-schwarzeneggers-adultery-blame-the-bitches/comment-page-3/#comment-19857

    Kendra, sorry to hear this, and glad you’re ok!

    darksidecat on women and coal mining, basically showing that the garbage MRAs spit out on the subject is, as usual, based on utter historical ignorance:

    in the real world, women did work in coal mines and still do. Women and children traditionally worked both in the mines and as pickers-a quasi legal to illegal job with exposure to the health dangers of coal mines at far, far lower pay.

    for the rest:

    http://manboobz.com/2011/05/22/arnold-schwarzeneggers-adultery-blame-the-bitches/comment-page-3/#comment-19895

  40. Lady Victoria von Syrus

    Back from a lovely walk. The cats say hi.

    Women did, in fact, play quite a large role in building civilization, but it’s so hard for empathy-challeneged MRAs to see that. Just as they can’t really fathom being put in a woman’s position, I don’t think they understand what life was like before the Industrial Revolution.

    I can walk across the street and buy a ham and cheese sandwich, soda, and pair of pants for the money I earn for about two to three hours of work.

    Now, just imagine doing that in a time without the aid of advanced machinery, before mass production when everything was made by hand and even luxuries were transported by horse or ox.

    If you want a pair of pants, there’s no going to the Levi’s store for you. Harvest your fibers, spin them into yarn, weave the yarn into cloth, dye it (and where are you going to get dye), cut it and sew the pants. Want some food? Better be able to make it yourself. And since there’s no such thing as a refrigerator, hope you’re happy going to the market every day for your food – or at least can pay a servant to do that for you. But since most people were slaves or peasants, you’re probably the servant. No cars or even buses – you walk to the market, and you walk home with what you can carry. There’s no microwave, either, so no instant soup or TV Dinners. Forget about working a 9 to 5, too – unless you can afford regular candles, your work schedule is determined by when the sun rises and sets.

    Of course, cooking, sewing and cleaning is all women’s work, same with tending children. I wonder what those civilization-building men would have done if there were no women to make sure they were fed, clothed and had a decent home. Or without mothers to raise them, or wives to give them sons.

    That’s not even going into the women who have been enslaved in one form or another. Because I guarantee you, if a man paid good money for a female slave, he’s not giving her a ‘pussy pass’, he’s making sure he gets his money’s worth.

  41. Well it doesn’t matter is all I’m saying. Fatherhood is not important by law. We have a 50% divorce rate which means there is a 50% chance of this happening to me.

    I don’t know why divorce is so high but it is and frankly I really don’t want that in my life.

  42. Lady Victoria: Hear! hear!

  43. I’d like to introduce a new term to the discussion:

    The NWOslave Ratio, named in honor of our own NWOslave. The ratio would refer to the 95% chance that any given sentence by NWOslave is likely to be factually incorrect and/or empty sarcasm or rhetoric.

    Here’s an example of the term used in a sentence:

    “Arnie’s recent comments have been getting perilously close to the NWOslave Ratio.”

  44. I want to give Arnie an e-hug :(

  45. @Lady Vic I already said the below:

    “Yea, keep believing that women played no important role in civilization and that their role was so unnecessary that they could have done other things. You were just cattle right…I get it. You were the only victims of the human condition and the victims of male oppression..I get it. Just so you know, men resent just about every view feminism has of the world.”

    So let me ask you…what more do women want???

  46. Thanks Ami but I’m not looking for one. I’m looking for a way to fix this.

  47. @ Lady Victoria

    My cat says hi too :)

    (and to nebody else who needs cheering up :] which sounds like a few ppl :( unfortunately I can’t do more atm but cat pics :( If I could, I’d treat ppl to a drink or latte or something… it sounds like this topic has rly rubbed at least one person rly raw and hit a personal trigger :\

  48. @Arnie <a href="http://www.divorcerate.org/wrong about divorce rates and honestly, if you want to get married and not get divorced? Talk about your expectations with the woman you are interested in, discuss values, your future, what you want from life, etc. Women are totally capable of talking. Also, be honest. It’s actually not that hard.

  49. Lady Victoria von Syrus

    1) To have it recognized that cooking, sewing, cleaning, domestic crafts and child-raising is hard, valuable work;

    and,

    2) To not have to be relegated to those roles if we don’t want to be and be able to pursue any career from coal miner to computer programmer as we wish;

    and,

    3) To have the right to our own bodies, to use them as we most desire, with neither legal nor social interference.

  50. Lady Victoria von Syrus

    @ Ami:

    Kitteh! Thanks! .

  51. What more do women want? How about equality. How about not having people lie about them (really, they have all the power? They resisted the vote? They were “coddled” until recently? It’s there fault people died on the titanic)?

    Here’s a question (and there are two more still pending):

    What do you want?

  52. Actually it’s Fate’s fault ppl died on the Titanic according to a recent Supernatural :( Cass had Balthazar go back in time to save the ship (so he’d have more souls to use in his war against Raphael).. but Fate threatened to kill Sam and Dean unless Cass fixed it.. and since Fate in this episode was a woman… it is a woman’s fault that everybody died :(

  53. Ami: That’s a cute kitty!

    Kendra: Glad you and your family are all right. Stay safe.

    Arnie: I’m having a hard time figuring out what needs “fixing,” in your opinion.

    Fatherhood is not important by law.

    I … am also having a hard time figuring out what this means. Is there a law that says that motherhood is more important than fatherhood? It seems to me that policy in this country right now is pushing away from abortion access and away from same-sex parents, toward Christian families with mother and father and … kinda toward children (in a lip-service way, anyway). It’s true that fathers are less likely to get primary custody of children in divorce than mothers are, but fathers are also less likely to have spent the majority of time raising the child pre-divorce. So I’m not sure what to say there. As a side note, I can tell you about my friend who told her husband she wanted a divorce after he couldn’t remember what grade their son was in. (It had been building up to that, but that was kind of what preceded the moment.) Now he’s a great dad. When he had her to rely on all the time … not so much.

    We have a 50% divorce rate which means there is a 50% chance of this happening to me.

    Yeah, it’s really sad that people are allowed to change their minds, or change at all. If only I could have held my high school boyfriend to his promise to love me forever … Damn him!

    I don’t know why divorce is so high but it is and frankly I really don’t want that in my life.

    And you know what? If you don’t want to get married, please don’t. No one’s forcing you to. No one here is, anyway. The only problem I have is with you trying to force your own personal preferences on the world, as if all of us are motivated by the same paranoias and experiences that evidently move you. You leap so quickly from “I don’t want that in my life” to “And that’s why men should walk away from their children.” Screw that, man.

  54. Uh oh… Pecunium is a servant of the Shadows Dx

  55. Kendra (sry missed that post :( ): I’m so sry to hear that :( You and your family have my hopes and prayers, and I hope you continue to be safe and are ok :( <3

  56. Abortion is not about “absolving oneself of responsibility” although I am sure that financial factors are major considerations in many abortions. A woman could choose to give birth and give the child up for adoption if that was all it was about.

    For a Childfree person like myself, abortion is about not wanting to accept the permanent and often devastating medical effects of pregnancy and childbirth.

    That said, unfortunately reproduction is not by nature egalitarian. Abandoning your genetic offspring doesn’t make it MORE egalitarian, all that does is place the burden of raising offspring that you stayed and sprayed to create in the hands of me, Law Q. Taxpayer. Why should I have to pay for your child through WIC and welfare? I’m not the one who fucked without a condom. You did, and regardless of whether or not you agree with your sex partner’s decision to not have an abortion, the outcome is still your fucking fault, not mine. Ergo you need to pay for it. Because I sure as hell don’t want to. I wasn’t even there.

    MRAs seem to define egalitarianism in reproduction as “men get to make all the final decisions regardless of what everyone else wants or who has to deal with the consequences, including children.” Fortunately we have a legal system that takes each individual case into consideration and yes, bad mothers don’t have rights to children either. So sayeth the courts. In general, you have to go out of your way to alienate your female partner/wife and lose custody of your kids. The behaviors that the court has decided are cause enough to remove your access to your kids are not ones you want to defend people for engaging in. Men who have lost all custody aren’t victims, they are perpetrators.

  57. Men who have lost all custody aren’t victims, they are perpetrators.

    As are women. Just so we’re clear.

  58. Hey everybody I’m back. Ack I’m 95% factually incorrect. Well lets see if we can bolster my stats a bit. Heres a link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_casualties_of_war

    So this tells us the war dead from every war from 1775 to the present at the time of the site, (I’m sure its not updated daily since Libya isn’t listed) equals 1,343,812 total dead from wars. But it is thru 2010.

    Now abortion in this country since R-v-W runs about 1.5 million a year, but I’m gonna low ball it down to the same number of 1,343,812. So what we can say is, one year of womens wholesale slaughter of the innocent unborn equals/or is greater than deaths from 236 years of american war dead. Whoaaaa, now thats grlllll power.

    @Arnie…
    You said…”I’m looking for a way to fix this.”
    I used to think that as well and wondered why these policies seemed designed to bring about negative consequences. Finally you come to the conclusion that the policies aren’t “broken.” In fact there working perfectly. There enacted to bring about the those exact consequences.

    @amandajane5
    I already went over this before, the reason divorce rates are down is because marriage rates are way down. Why not just quote inner city divorce rates which are about non existant, because nobdy is getting married.

    @Lady Victoria von Syrus
    Nice to prattle on about all the free things women did years ago to help run the world. How convenient to leave out all the free things men did, and of course men never did a damn thing as part of child-raising.

    I sure hope I upped my stats.

  59. Ah, the Titanic. As someone whose great-grandfather ACTUALLY WENT DOWN WITH THE ACTUAL TITANIC, and whose wife survived, I would just like to say that I assign primary responsibility for his death to the White Star Line, the company responsible for the Titanic, for NOT HAVING ENOUGH LIFEBOATS TO CARRY ANYWHERE NEAR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON BOARD. Also, the captain they hired ran the ship into a fucking iceberg.

    I’d say “chivalry” ranks a distant third. And at least in the case of my great-grandfather it was his choice to stay behind. Many men did get into the lifeboats, and as a fairly famous guy in first class he could have gotten onto a lifeboat if he had so chosen.

    For info on Jacques Futrelle, wee here: http://futrelle.com/

  60. Voting is about management and distribution of resources, something which women never bothered to acquire on their own because men did it for them.

    Well, that pretty much consigns hunter/gatherer societies to myth status. Oh, that’s right, women just wiled away their time cowering in their caves while the men hunted the mighty mastodon and slew the ferocious sabre-toothed tiger to not only protect the women but to put food on the table, as well… and they talk about feminist “revisionist history”.

  61. Don’t forget the mammoth, Pam.

  62. Come on now, don’t go blaming the ice burg!

  63. Also, lest we forget, the men also HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

    http://manboobz.com/t-shirts-etc/

    Though as I understand it many anthropologists today don’t think that it was only men who hunted or women who gathered:

    http://culturalfascinations.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/women-who-hunted-an-examination-of-gender-roles/

  64. Well, well Dave, that some pretty fancy schmancy past ya got there. I doubt I could even find a “name” so to speak as names were changed/altered about my past.

    On my dads side his parents and his brother were sold into literal slavery to a Texas farmer for 5 years for the boatride over from wartorn Europe. On my moms side her parents came here from Hungary and Lithuania. So I’m the son of a slave.

  65. Don’t forget the mammoth, Pam

    Ooooops!! Ah yes, the Wooly Mammoth (gotta have that “Wooly” in there or it’s just not the same)

  66. I don’t blame the iceberg. It was sitting there minding its own business when a gigantic — one might even say a titanic — ship came up and hit it. It was the captain who decided to keep going despite the fact that there were numerous icebergs in the area and that the ship’s lookouts could barely see a thing that night (no moonlight).

    The captain must have been a woman. You know, women driver, amirite?

  67. Captain Bathrobe

    Women did not “demand” the right to vote, they asked for it.

    A distinction without a difference in this context. Multiple conventions met and advocated women’s suffrage over the years. The specific language they used is irrelevant.

    Men never protested women’s right to vote….women did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suffragism

    Men never had to protest women’s right to vote; they were the ones who held power. They simply had to do nothing in order to maintain the status quo. Nevertheless, there were actually numerous editorials warning of the evils of “petticoat rule” and suffrage advocates often met with derisive counter protests. Alcohol producing interests were particularly vocal about denying women the right to vote, for fear that it would lead to prohibition (in fact, the 18th and 19th amendments were enacted around the same time).

    What’s more, that Wikipedia article doesn’t exactly paint a picture of a formidable anti-suffragist movement, considering that there were only about 160 of them in Britain in 1906. If someone was standing in the way of women’s right to vote, it wasn’t really other women.

    This link, on the other hand, includes numerous instances of states that passed laws excluding women from the right to vote.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States#Woman_suffrage_in_individual_states

  68. Heres a fun read.

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1909/09/women.htm

    Ya know what the thing about the Titanic really boils down to. It’s that you can’t even admit that those men did something that was damn noble. Not me of course, we all know I’m a misogynist piece of shit thats lower than a pig, but those guys did something thats worthy of praise. Why not just say those guys were good and noble, but you slave, your a worthless piece of shit that should’ve been aborted. That I can accept.

  69. “The captain must have been a woman. You know, women driver, amirite?”

    Totally, totally right.

  70. Though as I understand it many anthropologists today don’t think that it was only men who hunted or women who gathered

    And did you happen to check out the comment portion of that article for which you provided a link? LOL!!! None other than our good pal, Mr. Feminist Revisionist History Conspiracy Theorist himself, Eoghan, there to tell them “…I believe that feminist anthropologists and academics have falsified and fabricated a lot of things.” Because, as we all know, historical narratives as written by men are completely objective TRUE FACTS, even though they would lead one to believe that only a small handful of women ever existed.

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